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Which Rock band do you think is long overdue and should be the next to be voted into the hall of fame?

Chicago by 18,0000000 miles over any of these other bands. Rush, The Moody Blues, and The Guess Who are more deserving than all of those bands too.

I agree, Chicago should have been inducted ages ago! None of these bands on this list have been able to have hit singles in four decades, sold 120+ million records, and have incorporated horns into rock music. These guys are only second to the beach boys in terms of charted singles on billboard, thats amazing.

KISS! Whether you like them or not, you have to appreciate the mark they made & have maintained over the years. I mean, just consider the numbers of musicians that cite KISS as an influence. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever that they aren't at least a piece of the very definition of 'rock & roll'.


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Electric Light Orchestra. To be in the HOF, you need to show some originality and ELO did that with their spaceship on stage and using strings on a lot of songs.

27 top 4O hits in two different countries. None of the pop/rock groups like Journey, Styx, Foreigner come close to that.


Moody Blues also. Days Of Future Passed should get them in just by itself. Number one albums and songs on both sides of the Atlantic too. The creativity of incorporating orchestras and sitars into their music; no one else in rock was doing stuff like and finding success.

All of them...plus many more. If there is not enough room have them get rid of all the junk they have had put in over the years....

Yeah, kick out all the rap acts and there would be plenty of room for real rock.

All of the above + Kiss, Rush, Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Cheap Trick....

And make room for them all by kicking out those lame ass rappers and Mydoona. WTF is it these days? Sure as shit not the RNR HOF.

I actually think they should be honest and rename it the Popular Music Hall of Fame, or the Modern Music HOF. Enough bullshit with it being anything about rock.

In fact, it's almost getting to the point where if a rock band is being snubbed by the RHOF, it's a band worth listening to.

Arianddu wrote:I actually think they should be honest and rename it the Popular Music Hall of Fame, or the Modern Music HOF. Enough bullshit with it being anything about rock.

In fact, it's almost getting to the point where if a rock band is being snubbed by the RHOF, it's a band worth listening to.

Amen to that.

Arianddu wrote:
In fact, it's almost getting to the point where if a rock band is being snubbed by the RHOF, it's a band worth listening to.

You speak the truth about that.

Just for the record, the only rappers in the hall are Run DMC and GrandMaster Flash. I don't consider the Beastie Boys as R&B Rap.

Beastie Boys, Blondie, REM, Guns n Roses, and Talking Heads are all in the Rock Hall of Fame. Now thats a joke right there.

jrny84 wrote:Beastie Boys, Blondie, REM, Guns n Roses, and Talking Heads are all in the Rock Hall of Fame. Now thats a joke right there.

The Talking Heads have been for ten years now. It's not like the hall JUST NOW started putting in artists from different genres.

I still don't get the argument for Journey getting in ahead of a lot of other acts like Rush, the Moody Blues, Deep Purple, etc.
What did Neal and Company bring to the table that was so different or trendsetting? No diamond albums beyond their greatest hits, no Grammy, no number one songs. Longevity? Yeah, them and a hundred other bands.

Even the power ballad wasn't a new thing when Journey started to become famous for them. The year before Open Arms was released, Keep on Lovin' You had reached #1 and Hi infidelity was the number one rock album of the year for 1981. REO had just as many hits, still tour (with their original singer) yet no one is clamoring for them to get into the HOF.

I thought the RRHOF was run by some hipster douche bag tied to Rolling Stone...what's his nuts...

brandonx76 wrote:I thought the RRHOF was run by some hipster douche bag tied to Rolling Stone...what's his nuts...

The hall has always done stuff that people didn't agree since day one. Why folks get bent out of shape over it when it's been the same routine for two decades is a mystery to me.

Fats Domino and Jimmy Rogers were in the first batch of inductees back in 1986. It's not like they were straight up rock and roll. Hell, Rogers is known as the father of Country music.

Don wrote:

jrny84 wrote:Beastie Boys, Blondie, REM, Guns n Roses, and Talking Heads are all in the Rock Hall of Fame. Now thats a joke right there.

The Talking Heads have been for ten years now. It's not like the hall JUST NOW started putting in artists from different genres.

I still don't get the argument for Journey getting in ahead of a lot of other acts like Rush, the Moody Blues, Deep Purple, etc.
What did Neal and Company bring to the table that was so different or trendsetting? No diamond albums beyond their greatest hits, no Grammy, no number one songs. Longevity? Yeah, them and a hundred other bands.

Even the power ballad wasn't a new thing when Journey started to become famous for them. The year before Open Arms was released, Keep on Lovin' You had reached #1 and Hi infidelity was the number one rock album of the year for 1981. REO had just as many hits, still tour (with their original singer) yet no one is clamoring for them to get into the HOF.

My questions is what in the world have the Talking Heads down to get into the Rock Hall of Fame? These guys are a joke.

I agree that some other acts should get in maybe before Journey, especially the rock band Chicago. Yes, I can see the case for Rush, but Moody Blues... No Way. I couldnt even name you five hits from them in the states.

jrny84 wrote:

Don wrote:

jrny84 wrote:Beastie Boys, Blondie, REM, Guns n Roses, and Talking Heads are all in the Rock Hall of Fame. Now thats a joke right there.

The Talking Heads have been for ten years now. It's not like the hall JUST NOW started putting in artists from different genres.

I still don't get the argument for Journey getting in ahead of a lot of other acts like Rush, the Moody Blues, Deep Purple, etc.
What did Neal and Company bring to the table that was so different or trendsetting? No diamond albums beyond their greatest hits, no Grammy, no number one songs. Longevity? Yeah, them and a hundred other bands.

Even the power ballad wasn't a new thing when Journey started to become famous for them. The year before Open Arms was released, Keep on Lovin' You had reached #1 and Hi infidelity was the number one rock album of the year for 1981. REO had just as many hits, still tour (with their original singer) yet no one is clamoring for them to get into the HOF.

My questions is what in the world have the Talking Heads down to get into the Rock Hall of Fame? These guys are a joke.

I agree that some other acts should get in maybe before Journey, especially the rock band Chicago. Yes, I can see the case for Rush, but Moody Blues... No Way. I couldnt even name you five hits from them in the states.

The Moody Blues have more number one songs and albums in the states than Journey does. lol

Don wrote:

jrny84 wrote:
REO had just as many hits, still tour (with their original singer) yet no one is clamoring for them to get into the HOF.

Actually Kevin was not the original singer, he joined on the TWO release. Terry Luttrell was the lead singer on the first release, REO Speedwagon. Kevin sang on the second, and third. But got booted out hand Mike Murphy came in and rerecorded the vocals on the third, Ridin The Storm Out. Mike stayed on for the 4th and 5th releases, but Kevin came back for REO which was # 6. He has been there ever since.

Abitaman wrote:

Don wrote:

jrny84 wrote:
REO had just as many hits, still tour (with their original singer) yet no one is clamoring for them to get into the HOF.

Actually Kevin was not the original singer, he joined on the TWO release. Terry Luttrell was the lead singer on the first release, REO Speedwagon. Kevin sang on the second, and third. But got booted out hand Mike Murphy came in and rerecorded the vocals on the third, Ridin The Storm Out. Mike stayed on for the 4th and 5th releases, but Kevin came back for REO which was # 6. He has been there ever since.

Sort of like Perry not being the lead singer of Journey, who the hell knew of these guys before then? REO didn't have a platinum album until Cronin came back into the fold permanently in 1977.

But yes, you are correct of course, Cronin wasn't the original signer back in 1966 when the band started.

Don wrote:

brandonx76 wrote:The hall has always done stuff that people didn't agree since day one. Why folks get bent out of shape over it when it's been the same routine for two decades is a mystery to me.

Just seems like a pretty elitist prick move to not include Journey after all this time, among many other notables..

Foreigner will probably be the first band to get in from the Journey/REO/Styx group and Def Leppard from the glam rock bands. Both have had their names brought up, where the rest aren't even an afterthought.

Don wrote:

jrny84 wrote:

Don wrote:

jrny84 wrote:Beastie Boys, Blondie, REM, Guns n Roses, and Talking Heads are all in the Rock Hall of Fame. Now thats a joke right there.

The Talking Heads have been for ten years now. It's not like the hall JUST NOW started putting in artists from different genres.

I still don't get the argument for Journey getting in ahead of a lot of other acts like Rush, the Moody Blues, Deep Purple, etc.
What did Neal and Company bring to the table that was so different or trendsetting? No diamond albums beyond their greatest hits, no Grammy, no number one songs. Longevity? Yeah, them and a hundred other bands.

Even the power ballad wasn't a new thing when Journey started to become famous for them. The year before Open Arms was released, Keep on Lovin' You had reached #1 and Hi infidelity was the number one rock album of the year for 1981. REO had just as many hits, still tour (with their original singer) yet no one is clamoring for them to get into the HOF.

My questions is what in the world have the Talking Heads down to get into the Rock Hall of Fame? These guys are a joke.

I agree that some other acts should get in maybe before Journey, especially the rock band Chicago. Yes, I can see the case for Rush, but Moody Blues... No Way. I couldnt even name you five hits from them in the states.

The Moody Blues have more number one songs and albums in the states than Journey does. lol

Actually thats not true at all. The Moody Blues have never had a number one single in the United States. Yes, they did have two #1 albums, only one more than Journey. Journey has way more top 10 and top 20 singles.

Moody Blues
*They only have 3 top ten hits and 6 top 20 hits.
*6 top ten studio albums.
*Two number one albums

Journey
*They have 6 top ten singles and 13 top 20 hits.
*6 top ten studio albums
*One number 1 album.

jrny84 wrote:

Don wrote:

jrny84 wrote:

Don wrote:

jrny84 wrote:Beastie Boys, Blondie, REM, Guns n Roses, and Talking Heads are all in the Rock Hall of Fame. Now thats a joke right there.

The Talking Heads have been for ten years now. It's not like the hall JUST NOW started putting in artists from different genres.

I still don't get the argument for Journey getting in ahead of a lot of other acts like Rush, the Moody Blues, Deep Purple, etc.
What did Neal and Company bring to the table that was so different or trendsetting? No diamond albums beyond their greatest hits, no Grammy, no number one songs. Longevity? Yeah, them and a hundred other bands.

Even the power ballad wasn't a new thing when Journey started to become famous for them. The year before Open Arms was released, Keep on Lovin' You had reached #1 and Hi infidelity was the number one rock album of the year for 1981. REO had just as many hits, still tour (with their original singer) yet no one is clamoring for them to get into the HOF.

My questions is what in the world have the Talking Heads down to get into the Rock Hall of Fame? These guys are a joke.

I agree that some other acts should get in maybe before Journey, especially the rock band Chicago. Yes, I can see the case for Rush, but Moody Blues... No Way. I couldnt even name you five hits from them in the states.

The Moody Blues have more number one songs and albums in the states than Journey does. lol

Actually thats not true at all. The Moody Blues have never had a number one single in the United States. Yes, they did have two #1 albums, only one more than Journey. Journey has way more top 10 and top 20 singles.

Moody Blues
*They only have 3 top ten hits and 6 top 20 hits.
*6 top ten studio albums.
*Two number one albums

Journey
*They have 6 top ten singles and 13 top 20 hits.
*6 top ten studio albums
*One number 1 album.

Wildest Dreams was an A/C #1 so my bad. They did have number one albums in the states in the 70s and 80s by adapting their music to go with the times.. They also were unique in their sound with their orchestra arrangements and concept albums and they were successful on both sides of the Atlantic.

What does Journey bring to the table that is different or groundbreaking versus groups like REO or Foreigner, let alone the Moody Blues?

To be honest, If we go by top ten singles and #1s, Bon Jovi should be in before any of these guys. But the question would still be the same. What did Bon jovi bring to the scene that was different than other groups? What sound did they pioneer?

Blondie, although a new wave/punk rock band, is not a joke. One may not
enjoy their brand of music, but they were amongst the first w/their style ...mixing
pop, raggae. disco and rap. I'm not a huge fan of the new wave/punk genre, but
I certainly appreciate their influence.

Michigan Girl wrote:Blondie, although a new wave/punk rock band, is not a joke. One may not
enjoy their brand of music, but they were amongst the first w/their style ...mixing
pop, raggae. disco and rap. I'm not a huge fan of the new wave/punk genre, but
I certainly appreciate their influence.

That's what I am talking about.
Getting in should be about bringing something different to the table and having success with it. There's quite a few groups with 100 million album sold so to get into the hall has to entail more than just straight up record sales. Being a pioneer or daring to be different should be rewarded over longevity and just touring until you die.

Don wrote:Foreigner will probably be the first band to get in from the Journey/REO/Styx group and Def Leppard from the glam rock bands. Both have had their names brought up, where the rest aren't even an afterthought.

You say "first band to get in" from that group as if induction is an eventual inevitability. But I wouldn't be so sure. I'm a child of the 90s, and bands from my youth are starting to become eligible AND get inducted. What makes you think they are going to "go back" and get all these bands eventually? I really don't see them going back.

Eventually, they may begrudgingly let Leppard and Rush in... maybe even Journey. But it's hard for me to see them ever letting all these successful bands in eventually. The powers that be (e.g., that homo Jann Wenner) simply disdain this type of music, and something tells me that disdain will be pervasive long after Wenner and his immediate cronies die or get too old to be in charge anymore.

Ehwmatt wrote:

Don wrote:Foreigner will probably be the first band to get in from the Journey/REO/Styx group and Def Leppard from the glam rock bands. Both have had their names brought up, where the rest aren't even an afterthought.

You say "first band to get in" from that group as if induction is an eventual inevitability. But I wouldn't be so sure. I'm a child of the 90s, and bands from my youth are starting to become eligible AND get inducted. What makes you think they are going to "go back" and get all these bands eventually? I really don't see them going back.

Eventually, they may begrudgingly let Leppard and Rush in... maybe even Journey. But it's hard for me to see them ever letting all these successful bands in eventually. The powers that be (e.g., that homo Jann Wenner) simply disdain this type of music, and something tells me that disdain will be pervasive long after Wenner and his immediate cronies die or get too old to be in charge anymore.

The Hall actually wanted to shorten the waiting period by five years so they could start getting some of those 90s bands in already, that's how much disdain they have for the music of the 80s.

Don wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:Blondie, although a new wave/punk rock band, is not a joke. One may not
enjoy their brand of music, but they were amongst the first w/their style ...mixing
pop, raggae. disco and rap. I'm not a huge fan of the new wave/punk genre, but
I certainly appreciate their influence.

That's what I am talking about.
Getting in should be about bringing something different to the table and having success with it. There's quite a few groups with 100 million album sold so to get into the hall has to entail more than just straight up record sales. Being a pioneer or daring to be different should be rewarded over longevity and just touring until you die.

And I agree ...The Moody Blues should be there. The classical music fusion thing is just
a fraction of their offerings, they are a progressive rock pioneer.

Who said, "ELO"? I saw them mentioned somewhere, but can't find it in this thread...THEY belong!!