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tater1977 wrote: “Journey gave me the go signal. They said it would be good for people to know my story.”
KenTheDude wrote:And once again no mention of Steve Augeri is sad.
ebake02 wrote:KenTheDude wrote:And once again no mention of Steve Augeri is sad.
It bugs me too, it's like he was whitewashed from existence. People seem to forget that Steve Augeri's voice is what rebuilt Journey into the touring monster that it is now.
Eric wrote:ebake02 wrote:KenTheDude wrote:And once again no mention of Steve Augeri is sad.
It bugs me too, it's like he was whitewashed from existence. People seem to forget that Steve Augeri's voice is what rebuilt Journey into the touring monster that it is now.
From the perspective of this movie its not the point, though. Its more of Arnel's story with the big picture of Journey's story. Arnel didn't replace Augeri...and Augeri's music isn't being sung.
I agree that Augeri gets unfairly erased in a lot of the pub for Journey - just not in this case.
Eric wrote:ebake02 wrote:KenTheDude wrote:And once again no mention of Steve Augeri is sad.
It bugs me too, it's like he was whitewashed from existence. People seem to forget that Steve Augeri's voice is what rebuilt Journey into the touring monster that it is now.
From the perspective of this movie its not the point, though. Its more of Arnel's story with the big picture of Journey's story. Arnel didn't replace Augeri...and Augeri's music isn't being sung.
I agree that Augeri gets unfairly erased in a lot of the pub for Journey - just not in this case.
SF-Dano wrote:For accuracy sake alone, Augeri should be mentioned. It would take nothing away from the basis of the story (Arnel's) that they are telling.
brywool wrote:If you read here, it was apparently the worst thing ever...
How is Arnel a "puppet"?
He's out there doing the work, singing his ass off and now contributing to writing the songs (granted, in a small way so far) and keeping the band going. Not to mention taking a lotta sh*t from Journey's "Fans". JSS's contribution, though important at the time, was pretty short-term. Jeez, Randy Jackson was in the band longer - was he mentioned in the movie? Doubt it. Is anyone griping about that? Certainly a better player than Valory. No offense meant to JSS, but that's the truth. Jackson's on Frontiers and ROR and did the ROR tour. ALL OF IT. Is JSS on anything the band released? NO. And he did part of a tour with them. Augeri's contribution was certainly much more, but the film's not about Augeri, it's about Pineda and is NOT "Journey's story". Even Augeri went to the premiere last night. He obviously doesn't think it's a big deal or a bad deal to support Pineda so why does everybody else throw so much crap at (for once) some good Journey news? Pretty freakin classy of Augeri to show up for sure. I do think he should've been mentioned too, but to get so mad about it is pretty silly.
By the way, out of all of em, you could say Neal's a puppet . He HATES the commercial direction Journey went into, but he goes out there every night and plays "Lovin Touchin Squeezin" and "The Marry Poppins song". If that's not a puppet, I don't know what is. It's just music.
Jana wrote:brywool wrote:If you read here, it was apparently the worst thing ever...
How is Arnel a "puppet"?
He's out there doing the work, singing his ass off and now contributing to writing the songs (granted, in a small way so far) and keeping the band going. Not to mention taking a lotta sh*t from Journey's "Fans". JSS's contribution, though important at the time, was pretty short-term. Jeez, Randy Jackson was in the band longer - was he mentioned in the movie? Doubt it. Is anyone griping about that? Certainly a better player than Valory. No offense meant to JSS, but that's the truth. Jackson's on Frontiers and ROR and did the ROR tour. ALL OF IT. Is JSS on anything the band released? NO. And he did part of a tour with them. Augeri's contribution was certainly much more, but the film's not about Augeri, it's about Pineda and is NOT "Journey's story". Even Augeri went to the premiere last night. He obviously doesn't think it's a big deal or a bad deal to support Pineda so why does everybody else throw so much crap at (for once) some good Journey news? Pretty freakin classy of Augeri to show up for sure. I do think he should've been mentioned too, but to get so mad about it is pretty silly.
By the way, out of all of em, you could say Neal's a puppet . He HATES the commercial direction Journey went into, but he goes out there every night and plays "Lovin Touchin Squeezin" and "The Marry Poppins song". If that's not a puppet, I don't know what is. It's just music.
Great post.
Steve Augeri went to the premiere? I love him even more.
brywool wrote:This is the photo where Steve beat up Arnel cuz he didn't get mentioned in his movie.
Posted these without Rip's permission...
SF-Dano wrote:For accuracy sake alone, Augeri should be mentioned. It would take nothing away from the basis of the story (Arnel's) that they are telling.
FormerJrnyFan wrote:And, JSS was what, never "in" the band??? Pineda is a puppet... a puppet who can sing, but a puppet non the less... what a freakin' joke this "band" has become...
Don wrote:Steve Augeri looks like he is enjoying life. I'm guessing that he has invested the money he made from Journey very wisely.
MCC620 wrote:Don wrote:Steve Augeri looks like he is enjoying life. I'm guessing that he has invested the money he made from Journey very wisely.
Steve enjoys his life because it is rich with family and friends that he loves and that love him.
and if there is a nice segment on him in this doc...then kudos to the film maker and Arnel for not skipping over his 8 years with the band, like his former band mates do more often than not.
YoungJRNY wrote:FormerJrnyFan wrote:And, JSS was what, never "in" the band??? Pineda is a puppet... a puppet who can sing, but a puppet non the less... what a freakin' joke this "band" has become...
If being a puppet can bring me the story and money Arnel has received in life, which where he is probably set for life compared to all of us here, then I'd be a puppet for somebody any day of the week.Arnel got the goods. He's been with the band for 5 years now (hard to believe, time fly's.) Journey got the goods. They are still making albums. They are still honoring their past. They are still in the storylines of today's music. It's all good. Journey is far from a joke. Journey is a business but yet, still one of the most popular rock bands out there that happens to remain nostalgia. They got things going for every fan to love. Past & Present.
Kor'n wrote:YoungJRNY wrote:FormerJrnyFan wrote:And, JSS was what, never "in" the band??? Pineda is a puppet... a puppet who can sing, but a puppet non the less... what a freakin' joke this "band" has become...
If being a puppet can bring me the story and money Arnel has received in life, which where he is probably set for life compared to all of us here, then I'd be a puppet for somebody any day of the week.Arnel got the goods. He's been with the band for 5 years now (hard to believe, time fly's.) Journey got the goods. They are still making albums. They are still honoring their past. They are still in the storylines of today's music. It's all good. Journey is far from a joke. Journey is a business but yet, still one of the most popular rock bands out there that happens to remain nostalgia. They got things going for every fan to love. Past & Present.
Have such respect for Perry, a true artist so glad you are not speaking of him. Journey's classic music is "still in the storylines of today's music" with some popular Greatest Hits. Hopefully, Pineda is being frugal about the future. Take a look at the Eclipse's sales, think it's gone as far as the present.
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