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Journey's 'Separate Ways' Video: The Band Speaks About Filmi

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:09 am
by tater1977
Journey's 'Separate Ways' Video: The Band Speaks About Filming The 'Cheeseball' Video

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/1 ... 38485.html

In 1983, to promote their hit single "Separate Ways (Worlds Apart)," Journey shot their first true music video that wasn't just remastered concert footage. If the goal was to make a great music video, that did not happen. If the goal was to make one of the cheesiest music videos ever put to film -- a video so infamous that, almost 30 years later, we're still talking about it -- then, yes mission accomplished.

Journey guitarist Neal Schon and keyboardist Jonathan Cain are in New York, along with new frontman Arnel Pineda, to promote the Tribeca Film Festival documentary "Don't Stop Believin': Everyman's Journey" -- the story of how Pineda went from YouTube to the new lead singer of Journey. The full interview will publish next week, but this reporter couldn't resist asking Schon and Cain about their experience air guitaring through what might be one of the most ridiculous videos of all time (if you believe Beavis and Butthead, that is).

Thirty years later, people still watch the video for "Separate Ways."
Schon: I like the song, I don't know about the video.

Cain: It's campy, for sure. It's so bad, it's cool.

What was going through your head when you were filming that?
Schon: Well, it was the beginning of the video era. I think we made that video for, like, $5000. You know, nobody was spending big money on videos, for one.

Cain: Here's a funny story: When we were going through the actual storyboards, Steve Perry was there -- and he wasn't down with it. And his girlfriend, Sherrie, was not down with it. And there was this whole thing about, "You're going to have a slut in your video?"

Schon: And she had to be a not-a-good-looking one.

Cain: So Sherrie, from "Oh Sherrie," was like, "You're really going to have this girl in your video?" So Steve was getting pressure from her. And, in the end, I think [the band's manager] Herbie Herbert had to talk to Steve and go, "Come on, let's just do this. We're down here in New Orleans, we don't have any other ideas, let's just go do this. And his whole thing was, "We're not actors! We're performers!"

Schon: Actually, he was correct. The best footage that we have of us is from JFK stadium, live. We always had live footage and it looked natural.

Right, the "Don't Stop Belivein'" video is still great, which is live footage.
Cain: Steve had a lot of trepidation about that whole idea of making that video. And I had trepidation about playing the "air" stuff. Really? We're going to "air" perform? So I was like, "Oh, Jeeze, we're going to get killed. They're going to kill us." And Beavis and Butthead kicked us for two years.

Schon: I think they're version is the best.

Cain: I remember calling Herbie, "Can't we do anything about this, Herbie? Look what they're doing!" And he said, "Look at Kip Winger." Poor Kip. Beavis and Butthead, now look where they are now.

They're back.
Cain: They're back, yeah. Anyway, it was a funny time. I think we did three for one: It was $10,000 and we got three videos out of it.

It would have been great if, while you were filming, someone would have told you, "this video is going to live forever."
Schon: Better that way than not ever seeing it at all.

Cain: It does look really campy, you know? Like we did it on purpose or something.

Schon: It's cheesy, definitely.

Cain: It was just cheeseball, from beginning to end. I can still see Steve Perry at the meeting going, "No!" and then Sherrie looking at him.

Then he said "I'll have to write her a song after this because she's so mad"?
Cain: And so he did [laughs].

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:43 am
by Don
It takes a film about Arnel Pineda for us to find out the real reason Perry wrote "Oh Sherrie"?

The man, the myth, the legend. :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:49 am
by tater1977
Don wrote:It takes a film about Arnel Pineda for us to find out the real reason Perry wrote "Oh Sherrie"?

The man, the myth, the legend. :lol:


Cain's version of it Anyway.... :D

PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 11:52 am
by tater1977
I know they made the 3 videos for $10,000....but anyone know how long it
took them to make all 3?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:35 am
by brywool
tater1977 wrote:I know they made the 3 videos for $10,000....but anyone know how long it
took them to make all 3?


From the looks of em, I'd say about 3 hours.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:47 am
by Michigan Girl
I think it's great ...after all these years still talking about
the SW vid ...Cain's right, it's so cheesy it's cool, I love it.

And if they want to talk about dumb vids, they could stick
w/the most recent release/offering. Makes me appreciate
SW, CR and ATF that much more, :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:04 am
by brywool
Michigan Girl wrote:I think it's great ...after all these years still talking about
the SW vid ...Cain's right, it's so cheesy it's cool, I love it.

And if they want to talk about dumb vids, they could stick
w/the most recent release/offering. Makes me appreciate
SW, CR and ATF that much more, :wink:


The recent one is queezy.
the old ones were cheezy.

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:37 am
by Yoda
But what is great are the "remakes" people are posting on youtube! :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:59 am
by steveo777
This was the cheesiest video ever, right up until Neal's resonate video dethroned it. :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:19 am
by Tomulator
Michigan Girl wrote:I think it's great ...after all these years still talking about
the SW vid ...Cain's right, it's so cheesy it's cool, I love it.

And if they want to talk about dumb vids, they could stick
w/the most recent release/offering. Makes me appreciate
SW, CR and ATF that much more, :wink:


Well said.
8)

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:46 am
by Michigan Girl
Tomulator wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:I think it's great ...after all these years still talking about
the SW vid ...Cain's right, it's so cheesy it's cool, I love it.

And if they want to talk about dumb vids, they could stick
w/the most recent release/offering. Makes me appreciate
SW, CR and ATF that much more, :wink:


Well said.
8)

Thank you, Tommy ...good to see you!! :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:26 am
by Tomulator
Michigan Girl wrote:
Tomulator wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:I think it's great ...after all these years still talking about
the SW vid ...Cain's right, it's so cheesy it's cool, I love it.

And if they want to talk about dumb vids, they could stick
w/the most recent release/offering. Makes me appreciate
SW, CR and ATF that much more, :wink:


Well said.
8)

Thank you, Tommy ...good to see you!! :wink:


Likewise MG

My favorite "Wolverine"...

:wink:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:04 am
by Liam
This was the worst thing ever put out by Journey with Perry. I think they should all be shot for it. :twisted:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:19 am
by donnaplease
Liam wrote:This was the worst thing ever put out by Journey with Perry. I think they should all be shot for it. :twisted:


IDK Li-Li... After The Fall and Chain Reaction are pretty bad too. (Although Neal looks pretty hot in the CR vid!). :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:37 am
by Liam
donnaplease wrote:
Liam wrote:This was the worst thing ever put out by Journey with Perry. I think they should all be shot for it. :twisted:


IDK Li-Li... After The Fall and Chain Reaction are pretty bad too. (Although Neal looks pretty hot in the CR vid!). :wink:


Your opinion is invalid since you said Neal was hot...even AFTER seeing the Resonate vid. :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:33 pm
by donnaplease
Liam wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
Liam wrote:This was the worst thing ever put out by Journey with Perry. I think they should all be shot for it. :twisted:


IDK Li-Li... After The Fall and Chain Reaction are pretty bad too. (Although Neal looks pretty hot in the CR vid!). :wink:


Your opinion is invalid since you said Neal was hot...even AFTER seeing the Resonate vid. :lol: :lol:


Once upon a time... In a galaxy far, far away...

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 4:41 pm
by steveo777
donnaplease wrote:
Liam wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
Liam wrote:This was the worst thing ever put out by Journey with Perry. I think they should all be shot for it. :twisted:


IDK Li-Li... After The Fall and Chain Reaction are pretty bad too. (Although Neal looks pretty hot in the CR vid!). :wink:


Your opinion is invalid since you said Neal was hot...even AFTER seeing the Resonate vid. :lol: :lol:


Once upon a time... In a galaxy far, far away...


I always knew your were a trekkie! :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 11:55 pm
by Liam
donnaplease wrote:
Liam wrote:
donnaplease wrote:
Liam wrote:This was the worst thing ever put out by Journey with Perry. I think they should all be shot for it. :twisted:


IDK Li-Li... After The Fall and Chain Reaction are pretty bad too. (Although Neal looks pretty hot in the CR vid!). :wink:


Your opinion is invalid since you said Neal was hot...even AFTER seeing the Resonate vid. :lol: :lol:


Once upon a time... In a galaxy far, far away...


Donna Please (hehe...hadn't said that in a LONG time.) but REALLY?? ;)