Augeri era Soundboards

[jestor92]

Would anyone be able to point me in the correct direction to find a soundboard featuring Augeri or the audio from the Journey Arrival Live album?

[Ehwmatt]

Would anyone be able to point me in the correct direction to find a soundboard featuring Augeri or the audio from the Journey Arrival Live album?

Here you go... amazing quality too!

http://www.amazon.com/Arrival-Journey/d ... 834&sr=8-1

I love the SA era/Arrival, but couldn't resist this one. Sorry Steve.

[jestor92]

Would anyone be able to point me in the correct direction to find a soundboard featuring Augeri or the audio from the Journey Arrival Live album?

Here you go... amazing quality too!

http://www.amazon.com/Arrival-Journey/d ... 834&sr=8-1

I love the SA era/Arrival, but couldn't resist this one. Sorry Steve.

Odd I already have that. Looking for live concerts, like the audio from the Live DVD. I've got the DVD, but for the life of me I have no idea how to extract it.

[MCC620]

Would anyone be able to point me in the correct direction to find a soundboard featuring Augeri or the audio from the Journey Arrival Live album?

Here you go... amazing quality too!

http://www.amazon.com/Arrival-Journey/d ... 834&sr=8-1

I love the SA era/Arrival, but couldn't resist this one. Sorry Steve.

Odd I already have that. Looking for live concerts, like the audio from the Live DVD. I've got the DVD, but for the life of me I have no idea how to extract it.

http://www.guitars101.com/forums/search ... =25&page=2

there's a bunch of journey bootlegs here. not sure what is soundboard quality. usually the japan shows are pretty good. i think i have the audio of the arrival dvd on one of my external drives. i'll look for it.

[AR]

There was that PPV feed from Virginia Beach (think it was from there). Pro Shot video

[steveo777]

Would anyone be able to point me in the correct direction to find a soundboard featuring Augeri or the audio from the Journey Arrival Live album?

Here you go... amazing quality too!

http://www.amazon.com/Arrival-Journey/d ... 834&sr=8-1

I love the SA era/Arrival, but couldn't resist this one. Sorry Steve.

Odd I already have that. Looking for live concerts, like the audio from the Live DVD. I've got the DVD, but for the life of me I have no idea how to extract it.

From my understanding the audio on the live DVD isn't really live. It's doctored.

[jestor92]

Would anyone be able to point me in the correct direction to find a soundboard featuring Augeri or the audio from the Journey Arrival Live album?

Here you go... amazing quality too!

http://www.amazon.com/Arrival-Journey/d ... 834&sr=8-1

I love the SA era/Arrival, but couldn't resist this one. Sorry Steve.

Odd I already have that. Looking for live concerts, like the audio from the Live DVD. I've got the DVD, but for the life of me I have no idea how to extract it.

From my understanding the audio on the live DVD isn't really live. It's doctored.

That sucks if true. It sounds pretty good.

I've checked VH-forums and a lot of what they have has the links taken down

[Andrew]

The Arrival Live DVD is not very live vocal wise. At all.

[steveo777]

The Arrival Live DVD is not very live vocal wise. At all.

There you have it, folks.
Links have been taken down for a reason......Damage control.

[FamilyMan]

In all fairness, I don't know very many bands that release live material without going into a studio and remixing/tweaking/re-recording some things first.
They all do it.

[jestor92]

In all fairness, I don't know very many bands that release live material without going into a studio and remixing/tweaking/re-recording some things first.
They all do it.

I know a lot of bands tweak and sometimes even record the entire "live" album in the studio. KISS I know re-recorded a lot of their vocal work from Alive!, basically recorded the entire Alive II and III in the studio, and who knows about Alive - The Millenium concert

[JohnH]

Like Herbie said, what Arrival live really sounded like is written all over Neal's face on the DVD. I

[The_Noble_Cause]

Someone has uploaded an entire show from the Main Event tour in 2003 on YouTube.
Some good older tracks like La Do Da and Precious Time.
Augeri, for the most part, is live, but sounds auto-tuned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3yehFTfVsA

[jestor92]

So does anyone have the entire Arrival Live in Vegas 2001 audio that they would be nice enough to share please with cherries on top

[slucero]

From Andrews interview with Herbie: http://www.melodicrock.com/interviews/h ... rbert.html

I'm not sure, but has Kevin Chalfant told you anything about the website or myself?
Not really but I believe I've heard about it because if I'm not mistaken you guys are the ones that somehow in Sweden determined that Steve Augeri was singing to a hard drive.

Ah….well, I didn't have anything to do with that myself, but you are correct in that those claims appeared on my website's message board – posted by the sound guy from Sweden. Some chatter was already taking place and…heated debate continued as it always does on that board. The Sweden thing kind of took on a new life from that point onwards.
Yeah it did and I thought that was a healthy thing, that that came to light. Because, you know I think they dodged a real bullet there. They could have easily been reduced to Milli Vanilli quickly. What's unfortunate about that is Neal Schon's the real deal.

To generalize a little here – many big acts use samples and even shadow musicians behind the scenes to enhance the sound they are delivering. Why that need for perfection?
Well, because the money at stake on any given night is humongous and unlike motion pictures or television you can't say freeze or let's re-tape that or can we do that over or can we shoot tomorrow or whatever. Rock 'n roll is, always has been the most intense, high pressure, and if you're in that pressure cooker and you do get involved with drugs at all, then you're very quickly weakened. And you can't cut it or if you're as clean as can be there's a high level exposure. Every city you get to you gotta go to radio and retail and go to in-store appearances. You gotta have backstage meet and greets with all the record labels and the branch in that town and the various radio station personnel.

All the radio stations, you need their support in each market so you're pressing the flesh and kissing babies and catching the flu.

I remember with Steve Perry we had a four night sellout at the Reunion Arena in Dallas and he really was in rough, rough, rough shape and it was the one time when I had to sit down and go 'Steve', it's horrendous, this is why the pressure is what it is, but we would put in suspense the settlement on this, what at the time was an obscenely big gross in rock 'n roll and until we returned and played the postponed fourth date we couldn't settle because all the deals were really tightly negotiated predicated on four days.

They were extraordinary low deals but they were justified by the band playing four nights sold out in the round and all the ancillary income from parking and all would be frozen if he couldn't perform. And so, somehow he got through that performance and in those days, when that happened, the crutches hadn't been developed.
They hadn't come up with the Akai Samplers and the various technologies that would allow for it. But there was a famous lawsuit that happened in Detroit where it was discovered that a band were playing to just a big reel to reel tape machine out in the soundboard and there was a substantial award - a big settlement against them, a big judgment.

Against what band?
Against Electric Light Orchestra and Don Arden and Jet Records and whoever for basically doing a fake thing, a Milli Vanilli kind of thing.
Journey really, I can remember sitting down one day and putting headphones on and watching a video of the last concert with Gregg Rolie back in 1980 in Tokyo at the Sun Plaza. And being just astonished at how good these guys could sing. You know, Jon Cain was never a Gregg Rolie as a voice but he's been trying and working at it for frickin' years now. He tries to cover those Gregg Rolie songs and he marginally pulls it off and Deen Castronovo is such a frickin' franchise talent. Great singer, great drummer, tremendous talent and so they really could pull off serious vocals. They didn't need the crutches. With Augeri they did. They needed the crutches, they needed the help. He had trouble. It was rough. I never understood why they went with him. They could have gone with Kevin Chalfant.

I was actually one of the biggest champions for Steve Augeri and I thought Jeff Scott Soto was a fantastic idea. Plus he's a friend of mine…
Yeah, I liked Soul Sirkus. I went and saw him at the Filmore, I thought Marco Mendoza was a tremendous musician. I mean the whole band was really tight, very good, Jeff was a great performer. I liked his look, his performance wear, I saw him with Journey he changed his look so much he really, he's changed his look so much. You know it really just changed the vibe. When I saw him in Concord and they were so desperate for me to come and see 'em, then they call and they want my opinion and it's really a mistake because they never really, you know musicians, they really want cheer leaders, they want groupies and they want the fanclub routine and they know better than that with me. I've never been that for them. You know you hear the genuine, the true fan in me when I talk about Neal Schon as a guitarist. But hey you know I'm not gonna blow smoke up your ass and I'm gonna give you my honest opinion about a performance. And when I saw them I just thought wow, here's a band that hits the stage and it looks, you know, I wanna see my stars, my heroes descend from Olympus as Gods. Inaccessible, almost unattainable, you know, just out of reach. I wanna love everything about 'em, their wardrobe, their look, their everything and these guys came out in a t-shirt and jeans and they just looked like the monsters from the black lagoon. I mean really just like the roadies, very pedestrian, very pedestrian. Where they were capable of performing at a pretty good level, much better than the headliner that night, Def Leppard, but Leppard came on stage looking like stars and entrance and exit and look and image is hey, hello, it's a big fuckin' deal. You know, it's a big part of it and I think they really shot themselves in the foot that way. Then of course they chose the wrong material. The fact of the matter is that Jeff Scott Soto is not a tenor and so what the fuck? If Steve Augeri was struggling with these songs it's gonna be even harder for Jeff Scott Soto and it was.

And the thing is, the whole time that you were rooting and rooting and rooting for Augeri I knew that there was problems. Not because I was going to shows but because right at the beginning my company shot the Vegas show that was put out on Direct TV. And the original footage of that they insisted, you know, people at my company insisted that I come and watch. And I go, please I wanna come and watch Journey on video, what the fuck? And they said no you have to set and watch this for a minute. I go why, you know, it was like torture. So I sat down and then it was torture. I said what's going on here? I go man he's really, he's missing everything. He struggled so badly that night you can't believe it. There was hardly anything that could be saved in the lead vocal and the problem was to me at that particular time was Neal Schon was grimacing when he would miss these notes. I said man you can fix these notes in a studio but you can't fix the visual on Neal. And I'm like gettin' all sour faced because it's pretty sour. Neal has dog hearing and I said that to him too. I said 'you've got dog hearing I know you can hear that this guy's missing it'. And not necessarily, he doesn't know what's being fed in his earphone monitors and they don't have floor monitors.

So he needed what may have been a crutch in the beginning but became something he was leaning on much more heavily than should have ever happened. So it's just unfortunate and I guess from the vocal in Sweden he wasn't even trying to sing along in key and it was pretty bad. In the house it sounded great but in the recording room at the raw feed, canned feed, and so that was a bust. Ok busted, the party's over, this ruse is up, now you're gonna have to try to get somebody who can really sing so you get Jeff Scott Soto without the benefit of the same crutches and help that Augeri had. He was just quickly and after a few dates in a row he was raw. Those songs will get you. They're very difficult to sing. Playing them in the original voice is like murder on a voice.

[AR]

In all fairness, I don't know very many bands that release live material without going into a studio and remixing/tweaking/re-recording some things first.
They all do it.

I know a lot of bands tweak and sometimes even record the entire "live" album in the studio. KISS I know re-recorded a lot of their vocal work from Alive!, basically recorded the entire Alive II and III in the studio, and who knows about Alive - The Millenium concert

They really didn't have to though. The source tapes for Alive were recorded in several locations, but I have the Cleveland soundboard and it sounds great. Most of their problems vocally were not getting to the mics in time and that kind of thing due their moving around too much.

[kgdjpubs]

In all fairness, I don't know very many bands that release live material without going into a studio and remixing/tweaking/re-recording some things first.
They all do it.

Very true. There are precious few real live albums out there.

[kgdjpubs]

Would anyone be able to point me in the correct direction to find a soundboard featuring Augeri or the audio from the Journey Arrival Live album?

The Atlanta show from the 9/11 benefit is either soundboard or VERY close, and Augeri's voice that night was stellar. Same with the past and present concert (the one with Rolie, Hagar, Dunbar, etc). I believe the Canada Casino Rama 2004(?) is soundboard also or at least DAT.

[kgdjpubs]

Someone has uploaded an entire show from the Main Event tour in 2003 on YouTube.
Some good older tracks like La Do Da and Precious Time.
Augeri, for the most part, is live, but sounds auto-tuned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3yehFTfVsA

2003 was all live. Wouldn't surprise me about a bit of auto-tuning though. That happens more than you would think.

[The_Noble_Cause]

2003 was all live. Wouldn't surprise me about a bit of auto-tuning though. That happens more than you would think.

This concert is heavily auto-tuned. Sorry. It should actually make fans angry watching this. I guess by 2005, Augeri's voice was so shredded that even auto-tune couldn't make it sound decent. It'all really quite pathetic and sad.