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On Joe's new cd "Driving Toward The Daylight", the last song Too Much Ain't Enough Love is sung by Jimmy Barnes who originally released the song back in 1987. The song was written by Jimmy as well as Jon Cain, Neal Schon, Randy Jackson and Tony Brock.

1987 version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn-BeXNN ... re=related

2012 version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMjbYQLaGVo

Amazing how Cain and Schon have their musical footprint in so many places. So much for the notion that they still play in Journey cuz they need the money. That's just not true.

He sounds better & stronger now than back then...Thanks

Not bad, but like the original better. I'm a big Jimmy Barnes fan, but too much rattle in his voice on this. I know it's his thing, but it's more prevalent. I felt like I was being yelled at during this version.

Memorex wrote:Not bad, but like the original better. I'm a big Jimmy Barnes fan, but too much rattle in his voice on this. I know it's his thing, but it's more prevalent. I felt like I was being yelled at during this version.

I agree, he sounded like he was really pushing it. but I do like the guitar parts way better!

The guitar is really great. But very hard for me to compare to a version I have been listening to for 25 years. I love Neal's playing in that song and it's very "classic" to me. I actually remember the first time I heard it. I was in someone's living room and they had the stereo on, turned way down. I could not hear the singer, or really even the music, but I just kept hearing these guitar parts. We were in deep conversation but I just kept getting pulled to this. So I told the guy hang on a sec, that sounds like Neal Schon. I turned it up and sure enough, you could tell. I knew they were working with Jimmy Barnes months before and 2 and 2 made 4. Not sure why, but I'll never forget that.

Peartree12249 wrote:

Memorex wrote:Not bad, but like the original better. I'm a big Jimmy Barnes fan, but too much rattle in his voice on this. I know it's his thing, but it's more prevalent. I felt like I was being yelled at during this version.

I agree, he sounded like he was really pushing it. but I do like the guitar parts way better!

I think some of that may be Kevin Shirley's way of recording vocals. Take Cain as the polar opposite of that, and Barnes clashed with him over the recording of vocals for the Freight Train Heart album. Shirley records vocals rawer that most producers, and with Barnes, raw really means raw. Take this example from the recent Cold Chisel album.
Everybody http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dYOvPuKZmI

Seems like Barnes is recording or performing with everybody these days. Duet with Keith Urban on the Chisel classic Flame Trees from the other night. Keith had performed this song a few times live.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS2Maq07T04

Bonamassa did a nice job with that song though. Different, but it works. It definitely updated the song a bit.

I like both but the 2012 version has a down home Blues undertone... I could see a cold beer and some fried catfish while chillin out and listening to this song it's hot.

So who are all the people Schon and Cain have wrote for?

Jack Blades
John Waite (Bad English)
Bolton
????

Abitaman wrote:So who are all the people Schon and Cain have wrote for?

Jack Blades
John Waite (Bad English)
Bolton
????

Some unused Arrival material went on Mickey Thomas's solo cd.
They also collaborated with Jimmy Barnes.

also this song, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZovvOL0JgW4
Written by Barnes/Schon/Cain for the Freight Train Heart album, but not used. Ended up being recorded by The Rossington Band, with the Barnes vocal style being practically unchanged. No idea whether the Barnes demo still exists.

There were 2 cds with Jimmy Barnes. The first one, a reworking of Barnes' solo debut album Bodyswerve had Cain producing and was entitled For the Working Class Man. Designed to break Barnes in the US, about half the tracks from Bodyswerve were re-recorded, along with 5 "new" songs from various sources. The Cain-written Working Class Man, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erSJGrpfnOI, was a HUGE hit in Barnes' home country of Australia, firmly established Jimmy Barnes as a successful solo singer after the breakup of Cold Chisel, and was probably the single biggest hit for Cain outside of Journey. Cain also contributed American Heartbeat to the album.

After the success, Cain and Barnes reteamed for the successor, Freight Train Heart, which would go on to be Barnes' biggest solo success. Neal Schon was brought in, along with Randy Jackson and a host of session players. The majority of the album was Barnes/Cain co-writing with some other people, and included one Barnes/Cain/Schon song in I Wanna Get Started With You, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0xCngWi-BU. A falling out between Barnes and Cain led to Barnes going back to Australia to re-record the lead vocals. Apparently, Schon played at least a few songs with Barnes, although I've never heard of a recording from these shows.



and this one, presumably written for Bad English.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW3QykpPWM0.
Recorded as a demo by Mark Free. Rerecorded as Cain solo for the Back to the Innocence album. There's also a John Waite version floating around somewhere also.

jimmy can sure sing, or scream/yell... whichever you wanna call it...


I swear I'm always waiting for his head to explode though when he starts with the wailing...

Barnes voice was "smoother" on the original version and I have never had a problem with Neal's playing on that tune; the vocals are "grittier" on the new version, but it's 25 years since the original. What sets it apart from the original is Joe's playing- I just flat out prefer him to Neal right now- so I give the edge to the new version.

kgdjpubs wrote:also this song, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZovvOL0JgW4
Written by Barnes/Schon/Cain for the Freight Train Heart album, but not used. Ended up being recorded by The Rossington Band, with the Barnes vocal style being practically unchanged. No idea whether the Barnes demo still exists.

There were 2 cds with Jimmy Barnes. The first one, a reworking of Barnes' solo debut album Bodyswerve had Cain producing and was entitled For the Working Class Man. Designed to break Barnes in the US, about half the tracks from Bodyswerve were re-recorded, along with 5 "new" songs from various sources. The Cain-written Working Class Man, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erSJGrpfnOI, was a HUGE hit in Barnes' home country of Australia, firmly established Jimmy Barnes as a successful solo singer after the breakup of Cold Chisel, and was probably the single biggest hit for Cain outside of Journey. Cain also contributed American Heartbeat to the album.

After the success, Cain and Barnes reteamed for the successor, Freight Train Heart, which would go on to be Barnes' biggest solo success. Neal Schon was brought in, along with Randy Jackson and a host of session players. The majority of the album was Barnes/Cain co-writing with some other people, and included one Barnes/Cain/Schon song in I Wanna Get Started With You, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0xCngWi-BU. A falling out between Barnes and Cain led to Barnes going back to Australia to re-record the lead vocals. Apparently, Schon played at least a few songs with Barnes, although I've never heard of a recording from these shows.



and this one, presumably written for Bad English.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW3QykpPWM0.
Recorded as a demo by Mark Free. Rerecorded as Cain solo for the Back to the Innocence album. There's also a John Waite version floating around somewhere also.

On "Welcome me home" isn't that Gary Rossington's wife singing lead? Nice tune...

maverick218 wrote:

kgdjpubs wrote:also this song, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZovvOL0JgW4
Written by Barnes/Schon/Cain for the Freight Train Heart album, but not used. Ended up being recorded by The Rossington Band, with the Barnes vocal style being practically unchanged. No idea whether the Barnes demo still exists.

On "Welcome me home" isn't that Gary Rossington's wife singing lead? Nice tune...

Yes, I think it is.

Anyone remember Aldo Nova ? He's written & produced for Celine Dion.
Not that it matters here on this forum...just implying that it's all kinda relative, so to speak.


later~

Arkansas wrote:Anyone remember Aldo Nova ? He's written & produced for Celine Dion.
Not that it matters here on this forum...just implying that it's all kinda relative, so to speak.


later~

Well it woud be if this were the Aldo Nova Forum.

Monkey on your back and Rumours of You two of the best tunes ever.