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The_Noble_Cause wrote:Not surprised. Movie looked like shit. The whole hammy Broadway sing-a-long vibe is the precise of antithesis of rock and roll.
Yoda wrote:I haven't seen the last Mission Impossible yet, but it seems like for the better part of the last decade or so, Tom Cruise's movies have been real stinkers - other than MI!
Don wrote:Rock of Ages has done one thing at least. It has helped propel Journey's Greatest Hits to #3 on the iTunes album chart (something that didn't happen with the CMT performance).
portland wrote:Don wrote:Rock of Ages has done one thing at least. It has helped propel Journey's Greatest Hits to #3 on the iTunes album chart (something that didn't happen with the CMT performance).
Wonder why?
Don wrote:portland wrote:Don wrote:Rock of Ages has done one thing at least. It has helped propel Journey's Greatest Hits to #3 on the iTunes album chart (something that didn't happen with the CMT performance).
Wonder why?
A CMT audience might be looking for something with a bit more twang to it.
Rick wrote:Don wrote:portland wrote:Don wrote:Rock of Ages has done one thing at least. It has helped propel Journey's Greatest Hits to #3 on the iTunes album chart (something that didn't happen with the CMT performance).
Wonder why?
A CMT audience might be looking for something with a bit more twang to it.
I hate twangy music. Some of the Eagles stuff is too twangy for me.
Don wrote:This whole ‘Rock of Ages’ thing is not Tom Cruise’s fault
By Jen Chaney
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/cel ... _blog.html
As the weekend box office results have already revealed, “Rock of Ages” didn’t do so well in the movie-ticket-selling department. Specifically, it debuted in third place, behind “Madagascar 3” and “Prometheus,” earning a decidedly not-rockin’ $15.1 million.
There may be a temptation to blame this development on shirtless Tom Cruise (see above), the man who, as Stacee Jaxx, demands in “Rock of Ages” that we pour some sugar on him, in the name of love.
“That movie tanked because of Cruise,” you said to yourself as you scanned the box office results, a potent hit of Cruise schadenfreude already coursing through your veins. “This is proof that he is neither hot nor sticky-sweat, from his head to his feet.”
Well, as someone who once served as the defense attorney in Tom Cruise Court and therefore feels obliged to support his career choices for reasons that even she doesn’t always understand, let me just say that this is so not Tom Cruise’s fault.
“Rock of Ages” is the sort of movie that appeals to an extremely limited slice of the movie-going public. Who is that slice? People who actually remember the Pat Benatar, Poison and Foreigner songs covered in the film, as in were alive when they were initially released and actually thought they were legitimately awesome because it was the ’80s and sometimes our tastes back then were a tad questionable. (We did this to the bottoms of our jeans back then, okay? Clearly all of the blood did not make it from our ankles back up to our brains.)
Also part of the slice: people who like musicals (or at least “Glee”) and are totally cool with watching movies in which people spontaneously burst into song. Also necessary to fit into the “Rock of Ages” target demographic: an ability to spend a consistent amount of time looking at Alec Baldwin in this wig.
As you might imagine, that’s a pretty limited number of people. And many of those people —including myself, who was on vacation last week and missed the “Rock of Ages” press screening and will therefore have to spend her own money to see this movie at some point (oh, the sacrifice!) — probably didn’t rush to see it on opening weekend. Why? Because we’re old. (As Box Office Mojo points out, 74% of this movie’s audience was over the age of 25.) We spend our weekends running errands at Target and making sure our kids don’t ingest anything lethal while we’re making dinner. We are busy.
Tom Cruise understands this. The man turns 50 in two weeks. Do you hear me? Fif-ty. And look at him.
No, don’t look at him there. He looks ridiculous. This was the other problem with “Rock of Ages”: The whole thing looked ridiculous. And people don’t have money these days to take a chance on potential cinematic train wrecks set to the tune of REO Speedwagon.
Anyway, look at Tom Cruise here.
Fif-ty. I mean, what? He’s still wearing Maverick’s sunglasses from 1986 in that picture and it still works somehow.
Sorry, I got distracted. The point is this: “Rock of Ages” was a dicey proposition for most moviegoers. The ones who already bought into the idea of “Rock of Ages” because they saw the stage show may not have supported the notion of Cruise in the role Constantine Maroulis once played.(Correction: Maroulis didn’t play Jaxx in the original Broadway production, James Carpinello did. Apologies for the error.) That’s the one way in which Cruise may be responsible for the movie’s failure. But everyone else was either turned off by the premise, or knocked off the fence after reading the mixed reviews.
Will this box office slip affect Cruise’s career? Oh, heck no. Because Cruise is too smart for that. When he plays an above-the-marquee role — one that announces “This is a Tom Cruise Movie” — he usually does so in films that will likely be met with some degree of box office success. (See “Mission: Impossible — Ghost Protocol” or “War of the Worlds” for examples. Also, see “Knight & Day” for an exception to that rule.)
But when Cruise decides to do something off-type or semi-daring — see “Rock of Ages,” “Magnolia” or “Tropic Thunder” — he often does so as part of an ensemble. That way if the whole thing tanks, he doesn’t have to shoulder the blame by himself. This is what smart mega-movie stars do.
It’s actually what successful people do in general: take credit for the guaranteed successes and share the blame for the failures. It’s what your boss does, too, and it’s totally annoying, isn’t it?
Anyway, just to reiterate the bottom line: “Rock of Ages” is not Tom Cruise’s fault. I, Jen Chaney, swear that this is true, on a stack of Def Leppard albums, including “Pyromania,” which was totally their best one.
Monker wrote:hearing the gay version of AWYWI in this trailer killed any desire I Had of seeing this movie:
Monker wrote:Don wrote:Rock of Ages has done one thing at least. It has helped propel Journey's Greatest Hits to #3 on the iTunes album chart (something that didn't happen with the CMT performance).
Or, maybe it's because DSB is in Madagascar 3.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Not surprised. Movie looked like shit. The whole hammy Broadway sing-a-long vibe is the precise of antithesis of rock and roll.
Don wrote:Monker wrote:Don wrote:Rock of Ages has done one thing at least. It has helped propel Journey's Greatest Hits to #3 on the iTunes album chart (something that didn't happen with the CMT performance).
Or, maybe it's because DSB is in Madagascar 3.
The Rock Of Ages soundtrack is #2 on iTunes, right in front of Journey's Greatest Hits so I'm thinking that is the main reason but Madagascar 3 could be helping also, yes.
Don wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Not surprised. Movie looked like shit. The whole hammy Broadway sing-a-long vibe is the precise of antithesis of rock and roll.
Speaking of Broadway, Jim Steinman was just inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame this past week.
Probably when he can find a singer on youtube who sounds like a 30 year old Meat Loaf.The_Noble_Cause wrote:Don wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:Not surprised. Movie looked like shit. The whole hammy Broadway sing-a-long vibe is the precise of antithesis of rock and roll.
Speaking of Broadway, Jim Steinman was just inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame this past week.
Cool. When is he doing Bat 4?
Jeremey wrote:Madagascar 3 was surprisingly entertaining. It was the second film we've taken our boys to (the first was Winnie The Pooh and I wasn't there). Theron will be 3 in a couple weeks and he was able to sit through the whole film (although he isn't heavy enough to keep the movie chair from closing up on him, so I had to keep my leg on his seat bottom the whole time LOL). The Journey song they use is "Any Way You Want It" BTW.
I am really looking forward to Brave, however...It looks absolutely stunning and I have read where Pixar did a software upgrade before making the film and it really shows. Also heard that the movie is NOT about what the trailers lead you to believe, yet another film with a surprise twist in the second act. I'm a little concerned about the proliferation of bears in the movie though RE my kids and their mortal fear of bears and all, LOL. We'll probably have to screen this one first.
kgdjpubs wrote:Yoda wrote:I haven't seen the last Mission Impossible yet, but it seems like for the better part of the last decade or so, Tom Cruise's movies have been real stinkers - other than MI!
It's probably the best of the M:I movies. Lots of fun.
Its a movie based on a broadway play. Broadway musicals are for entertainment, not documentaries. I think maybe you're not understanding where the roots of this movie come from. It is a satire, and a musical made into a movie.artist4perry wrote:It would have been better to do a documentary film of old rockers that are still in concert...Journey, Def Leopard, Van Halen, Pat Benatar, Heart.....etc. Showing different rigors of the road, and them having fun with 3 or 4 songs a group. Feature the songs and the staying power of the music itself.
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