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Arnel sings WCTNGOF Acapella

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:07 am
by The_Noble_Cause

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:02 am
by slucero
and in the original key!

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:05 am
by Eric
WOW

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:11 am
by slucero
I was waiting for the money note... that might have been too much though..

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:45 am
by Don
slucero wrote:I was waiting for the money note... that might have been too much though..


Yeah, they never made it to that note when he performed the mash up with Patiently also.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX8e4p1cuek

I think the short acapella at the festival was more about him using the song as a thank you to the fans as that is how Jon envisioned it when he wrote it.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:50 am
by Don
Here is a complete rendition though done ala Karaoke. Very, very rough but it was sort of an impromtu performance it appears.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ1X-ym8vFQ

I've noticed that Pineda struggles with outros on a lot of the songs, his timing just goes to hell when he tries to carry the songs out on a high note.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:37 am
by The Sushi Hunter
Isn't it funny how he's been out in public singing and performing for over 25 years yet it's only after he joins Journey when the Filipino's started jumping through their assholes to meet him, video tape him, take pictures with him, etc.?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:01 am
by Jana
Attempting that song acapella at his age, pretty impressive.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:05 am
by steveo777
Jana wrote:Attempting that song acapella at his age, pretty impressive.


He's got the range. It's the band that chooses to tune down to protect from mistakes of the past with former singers.

Filipinos can hit high ranges much older than him. If you don't believe me you ought to hear my wife yell at me! LOL

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:09 am
by tater1977
steveo777 wrote:
Jana wrote:Attempting that song acapella at his age, pretty impressive.


He's got the range. It's the band that chooses to tune down to protect from mistakes of the past with former singers.

Filipinos can hit high ranges much older than him. If you don't believe me you ought to hear my wife yell at me! LOL


:lol: :lol: :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 11:13 am
by brywool
It's an impromptu, accapela thing. Take it for what it is, singing during an interview. The guy's got killer tone.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:23 pm
by jrnyjetster
Arnel is about as good as it gets. Ya think Steve Perry could do this right now?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:46 pm
by Don
Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 1:18 pm
by slucero
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


BINGO.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:21 pm
by Gideon
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 2:33 pm
by Don
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 3:38 pm
by Gideon
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:06 pm
by JohnH
Perry was certain in 97, class act knew when to stop instead of embarrass himself.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:08 pm
by steveo777
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.


Too bad Arnel was not raised in the USA. I can't begin to imagine what his capabilities would be. He has a great voice and range. I wonder how his control is on songs sung in his native tongue? I have listened to him sing in his own language but have no clue, since I can't understand the words. I guess it doesn't matter since there isn't much to be gained in the Philippines. Are there any really wealthy entertainers there or people who sell tons of albums, singing only Tagalog songs?

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:13 pm
by Gideon
steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.


Too bad Arnel was not raised in the USA. I can't begin to imagine what his capabilities would be.


What-if scenarios about Journey for me begin and end with "what if Kevin Chalfant replaced Perry in either '84, '93, or '98. He was, by far, their biggest missed opportunity.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 4:45 pm
by Don
steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.


Too bad Arnel was not raised in the USA. I can't begin to imagine what his capabilities would be. He has a great voice and range. I wonder how his control is on songs sung in his native tongue? I have listened to him sing in his own language but have no clue, since I can't understand the words. I guess it doesn't matter since there isn't much to be gained in the Philippines. Are there any really wealthy entertainers there or people who sell tons of albums, singing only Tagalog songs?


They make more money doing the TV gigs and singing the greatest American pop hits of the 70s live than actually selling records. Seriously, watch their TV variety programs; it's all song and dance with the majority of songs coming from the Adult Contemporary scene of yesteryear ( Stephen Bishop, Dan Hill, George Duke, etc.).
The artists and genres that Arnel is known for covering (Bon Jovi, U2, Heart) aren't really something you hear on those shows.

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:12 pm
by steveo777
Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.


Too bad Arnel was not raised in the USA. I can't begin to imagine what his capabilities would be. He has a great voice and range. I wonder how his control is on songs sung in his native tongue? I have listened to him sing in his own language but have no clue, since I can't understand the words. I guess it doesn't matter since there isn't much to be gained in the Philippines. Are there any really wealthy entertainers there or people who sell tons of albums, singing only Tagalog songs?


They make more money doing the TV gigs and singing the greatest American pop hits of the 70s live than actually selling records. Seriously, watch their TV variety programs; it's all song and dance with the majority of songs coming from the Adult Contemporary scene of yesteryear ( Stephen Bishop, Dan Hill, George Duke, etc.).
The artists and genres that Arnel is known for covering (Bon Jovi, U2, Heart) aren't really something you hear on those shows.


Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIMV2EmQ6A

PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 5:28 pm
by Don
steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


Nah, those were pretty respectable notes and impressive sustains. The accent and pacing through me off a few times, but I'm almost certain that this is well beyond what Perry can do at this point.


Too bad Arnel was not raised in the USA. I can't begin to imagine what his capabilities would be. He has a great voice and range. I wonder how his control is on songs sung in his native tongue? I have listened to him sing in his own language but have no clue, since I can't understand the words. I guess it doesn't matter since there isn't much to be gained in the Philippines. Are there any really wealthy entertainers there or people who sell tons of albums, singing only Tagalog songs?


They make more money doing the TV gigs and singing the greatest American pop hits of the 70s live than actually selling records. Seriously, watch their TV variety programs; it's all song and dance with the majority of songs coming from the Adult Contemporary scene of yesteryear ( Stephen Bishop, Dan Hill, George Duke, etc.).
The artists and genres that Arnel is known for covering (Bon Jovi, U2, Heart) aren't really something you hear on those shows.


Really?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIMV2EmQ6A


Really, dude? One performance from 4 years ago when the two OPM industry outsiders were paired up together like circus freaks to sing a power ballad, The exception rather than the rule.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:26 am
by Ehwmatt
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


This was like making a shitty guitar player turn his distortion and delay off: it really revealed Arnel's shortcomings.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:30 am
by Gideon
Ehwmatt wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


This was like making a shitty guitar player turn his distortion and delay off: it really revealed Arnel's shortcomings.


Nothing there you liked?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:43 am
by Ehwmatt
Gideon wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


This was like making a shitty guitar player turn his distortion and delay off: it really revealed Arnel's shortcomings.


Nothing there you liked?


Honestly, nothing. Pitchy, weird phrasing, weird enunciation, the whole 9 yards.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:45 am
by Rick
Gideon wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
Don wrote:
Gideon wrote:
Don wrote:Perry doesn't have to sing the song again, it's immortalized forever on CD. Arnel on the other hand was hired to do the live versions and sound like Perry and that is what he is trying his best to do.
Eclipse flopping and Journey's Greatest Hits yearly resurgence means back to the dirty dozen and legacy sound this tour. The experiment of trying to rock harder and have Arnel sing in his own voice has failed.


I'm going to take that as a "No, there's no way Perry could do this now." :lol:


Do you mean could Perry do what Arnel did in the videos? I think he could do it, especially the yelling and groaning at the end of the full song clip. Why anyone thinks these are good performances of WCTNGOF is beyond me.


This was like making a shitty guitar player turn his distortion and delay off: it really revealed Arnel's shortcomings.


Nothing there you liked?


Tough to impress I guess. I thought he did pretty damn good. I think a lot of us are just spoiled by Perry. :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:55 am
by scarab
it is not too late to get Soto back...

come on Neal, get it done!

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:03 am
by Ritchie
Did Perry ever sing this song live or any of the other Journeysingers?

PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:10 am
by Rick
Ritchie wrote:Did Perry ever sing this song live or any of the other Journey singers?


Negative.