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Journey BMO Harris Show Features Just Two Original Members

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:02 pm
by tater1977
http://www.wisconsinmusicman.com/2012/0 ... -just.html

Friday, July 27, 2012


Journey BMO Harris Show Features Just Two Original Members of the Band

When Journey comes to the BMO Harris Bradley Center in November, it will be without Steve Perry. Perry has long since left the band, and the remaining members have put their faith in Arnel Pineda. How many key members of a band have to remain in order for fans to respect their efforts to continue working under their original name? In the case of Journey, it seems that two core members are all that is needed for that band to go on. Aynsley Dunbar, Steve Smith, George Tickner, Greg Rolie, Ross Valory, and Steve Perry are long gone. Who remains are Jonathan Cain and Neal Schon.

It’s been done before. A very famous band loses a drummer, keyboard, or bass player. The core (or possibly the most popular members) of the band remain, so they move on with new blood. In some cases, very few fans complain, and the band manages to continue to do great things. In other cases, such as Van Halen, the fans divide into two groups. As hard as it was to see The Who reunite, could anyone fault them for the success that they achieved after picking themselves up and moving on? It is one thing to try to revive Queen without Freddie Mercury, but let’s face it, some bands will have no problems finding success after certain members are out. (This is coming from a drummer, mind you.)

Steve Perry Joins Journey

It must be noted that Journey didn’t start out with Steve Perry as their vocalist. In the early years, the band was a hard rock outfit that Greg Rolie led on vocals and keyboards. Perry was pretty much forced upon the band by their manager, but their success would not have come without him. Perry and Neal Schoen wrote the song titled Patiently during what was to be a weekend where the band could get to know their new singer. A bond was formed, and the band never looked back. Yes, the core members were very tight. Perry was an outsider. Still, it worked.

What are fans to make of the Journey lineup now? Take a moment to listen to Arnel Pineda sing one of their most famous songs. Can you tell the difference? I would say that it’s almost a mirror copy of Perry’s style. Still, it’s not the same. You just can’t replace the face, and voice of a band. For those of you who have no problem closing your eyes and pretending, the new lineup will probably just do fine for you. I’m not a Journey fan, but I have to stand behind Perry on this one. This is not Journey. When all that you have are the original guitar player, and a keyboard player that replaced the original member, you basically have a tribute band. It’s fitting that Arnel Pineda was busy fronting tribute acts when he was tapped to play the role of Steve Perry.

Re: Journey BMO Harris Show Features Just Two Original Membe

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 1:05 pm
by Rick
tater1977 wrote:http://www.wisconsinmusicman.com/2012/07/journey-bmo-harris-show-features-just.html

Friday, July 27, 2012


Journey BMO Harris Show Features Just Two Original Members of the Band

When Journey comes to the BMO Harris Bradley Center in November, it will be without Steve Perry. Perry has long since left the band, and the remaining members have put their faith in Arnel Pineda. How many key members of a band have to remain in order for fans to respect their efforts to continue working under their original name? In the case of Journey, it seems that two core members are all that is needed for that band to go on. Aynsley Dunbar, Steve Smith, George Tickner, Greg Rolie, Ross Valory, and Steve Perry are long gone. Who remains are Jonathan Cain and Neal Schon.

It’s been done before. A very famous band loses a drummer, keyboard, or bass player. The core (or possibly the most popular members) of the band remain, so they move on with new blood. In some cases, very few fans complain, and the band manages to continue to do great things. In other cases, such as Van Halen, the fans divide into two groups. As hard as it was to see The Who reunite, could anyone fault them for the success that they achieved after picking themselves up and moving on? It is one thing to try to revive Queen without Freddie Mercury, but let’s face it, some bands will have no problems finding success after certain members are out. (This is coming from a drummer, mind you.)

Steve Perry Joins Journey

It must be noted that Journey didn’t start out with Steve Perry as their vocalist. In the early years, the band was a hard rock outfit that Greg Rolie led on vocals and keyboards. Perry was pretty much forced upon the band by their manager, but their success would not have come without him. Perry and Neal Schoen wrote the song titled Patiently during what was to be a weekend where the band could get to know their new singer. A bond was formed, and the band never looked back. Yes, the core members were very tight. Perry was an outsider. Still, it worked.

What are fans to make of the Journey lineup now? Take a moment to listen to Arnel Pineda sing one of their most famous songs. Can you tell the difference? I would say that it’s almost a mirror copy of Perry’s style. Still, it’s not the same. You just can’t replace the face, and voice of a band. For those of you who have no problem closing your eyes and pretending, the new lineup will probably just do fine for you. I’m not a Journey fan, but I have to stand behind Perry on this one. This is not Journey. When all that you have are the original guitar player, and a keyboard player that replaced the original member, you basically have a tribute band. It’s fitting that Arnel Pineda was busy fronting tribute acts when he was tapped to play the role of Steve Perry.


Oy.... Someone didn't do their research very well.

PostPosted: Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:26 pm
by steveo777
My shit detector went off at hello.

I just got done seeing Journey live and they're the best I've heard in over 18 years. The venue went crazy. No sound issues, no sour notes, no diction issues and the way Faithfully sounded, all must have been played in standard key, as the song didn't plod along. That song is the true indicator of what they are doing with the tuning. They've got the right guy....and he's gonna carry them off into the sunset. Not to be kissing butt here, but the band was on their game.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 11:44 pm
by Glenn
Here's his twitter handle : https://twitter.com/pn_drummer so you can voice displeasure to this article directly....Awful!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:04 am
by scarab
Ross Valory, and Steve Perry are long gone.

He got the Ross being gone part right...
:D

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:35 am
by swataz
Did I miss the article about Ross Valory leaving the band? Oy ge vult.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:48 am
by Glenn
He answered me pretty quickly. At least he's honest.


     
@GlennJaxon 30 Jul
@PN_Drummer That Journey article you wrote...Better research maybe?

@PN_Drummer
@GlennJaxon YES! I relied upon just one source. Bad move. Also, it helps to like the band, which I do not. I deserved the dressing down!
09:33 AM - 30 Jul 12 via web

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 1:52 am
by Glenn
And he posted this : Want lots of comments on a blog post? Screw up a band history & watch the comments roll in. bit.ly/PfwU6v #Journey fans, I'm sorry!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:50 am
by Gideon
steveo777 wrote:My shit detector went off at hello.

I just got done seeing Journey live and they're the best I've heard in over 18 years. The venue went crazy. No sound issues, no sour notes, no diction issues and the way Faithfully sounded, all must have been played in standard key, as the song didn't plod along. That song is the true indicator of what they are doing with the tuning. They've got the right guy....and he's gonna carry them off into the sunset. Not to be kissing butt here, but the band was on their game.
Image


Nice pic, Steve. Set list and review, please.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:24 am
by tater1977
Glenn wrote:He answered me pretty quickly. At least he's honest.


     
@GlennJaxon 30 Jul
@PN_Drummer That Journey article you wrote...Better research maybe?

@PN_Drummer
@GlennJaxon YES! I relied upon just one source. Bad move. Also, it helps to like the band, which I do not. I deserved the dressing down!
09:33 AM - 30 Jul 12 via web



I see he has inserted it into his orginal blog now too.. :D

http://www.wisconsinmusicman.com/2012/0 ... -core.html


...Who remains in Journey are certainly the "core" members. Ross Valory and Neal Schon are truly the last original members still playing the hits. Jonathan Cain is also part of the current lineup, but cannot be labeled an "original" memeber, even though he was part of the band for the past 31 years. (Thanks to all those who commented on how much I messed up on the lineup, past and present.) ...

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:29 pm
by steveo777
Gideon wrote:
steveo777 wrote:My shit detector went off at hello.

I just got done seeing Journey live and they're the best I've heard in over 18 years. The venue went crazy. No sound issues, no sour notes, no diction issues and the way Faithfully sounded, all must have been played in standard key, as the song didn't plod along. That song is the true indicator of what they are doing with the tuning. They've got the right guy....and he's gonna carry them off into the sunset. Not to be kissing butt here, but the band was on their game.
Image


Nice pic, Steve. Set list and review, please.


I'm working on it, but here is the set list, so don't bust my balls.

Majestic
Never Walk Away
Only The Young
Chain Reaction
Send Her My Love
Faithfully
Star Spangled Banner (Neal)
Stone In Love
Lights
City of Hope (Jonathan introduced the song about being from Arnel's home land)
Wheel In The Sky
Escape
Open Arms (begun with a beautiful piano solo from Jonathan)
Separate Ways
Be Good To Yourself
Lovin' Touchin' Squeazin'....nanananana

Encore:
Anyway You Want It
Don't Stop Believin'

Confetti cannons at the end of the show. Working on a review but I have to work a few days and come down from the great experience. :D

Image

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:29 pm
by annie89509
steveo777 wrote:
Gideon wrote:
steveo777 wrote:My shit detector went off at hello.

I just got done seeing Journey live and they're the best I've heard in over 18 years. The venue went crazy. No sound issues, no sour notes, no diction issues and the way Faithfully sounded, all must have been played in standard key, as the song didn't plod along. That song is the true indicator of what they are doing with the tuning. They've got the right guy....and he's gonna carry them off into the sunset. Not to be kissing butt here, but the band was on their game.
Image


Nice pic, Steve. Set list and review, please.


I'm working on it, but here is the set list, so don't bust my balls.

Majestic
Never Walk Away
Only The Young
Chain Reaction
Send Her My Love
Faithfully
Star Spangled Banner (Neal)
Stone In Love
Lights
City of Hope (Jonathan introduced the song about being from Arnel's home land)
Wheel In The Sky
Escape
Open Arms (begun with a beautiful piano solo from Jonathan)
Separate Ways
Be Good To Yourself
Lovin' Touchin' Squeazin'....nanananana

Encore:
Anyway You Want It
Don't Stop Believin'

Confetti cannons at the end of the show. Working on a review but I have to work a few days and come down from the great experience. :D

Image

Steveo...made up with the wife????

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:15 am
by Michigan Girl
steveo777 wrote:My shit detector went off at hello.

I just got done seeing Journey live and they're the best I've heard in over 18 years. The venue went crazy. No sound issues, no sour notes, no diction issues and the way Faithfully sounded, all must have been played in standard key, as the song didn't plod along. That song is the true indicator of what they are doing with the tuning. They've got the right guy....and he's gonna carry them off into the sunset. Not to be kissing butt here, but the band was on their game.
Image

My shit detector is going off here ^^^^.


I agree, It's irritating when music reviewers appear to know less than the fans...
not a fan of Journey, no biggie, but get the facts straight. His opinion, though,
is his, and that's what is pissing many of you off ...hee hee!!

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:18 am
by Don
So did the SSB actually replace a song on the setlist as I see only 16 songs with vocals listed?

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:33 pm
by steveo777
Don wrote:So did the SSB actually replace a song on the setlist as I see only 16 songs with vocals listed?


Yep, that seems to be the way of it. Still, however, there was quality in the absence of quantity. They did sound really good!