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“....He was really fighting some serious health issues that really set him back. There was no going forward. We waited maybe three years between 1987-89, and we did nothing, then Bad English happened. Then Steve called in 1996, and we did Trail by Fire. We were supposed to go on tour, and then he had more health issues and these were serious ones — physically impairing.”
Don wrote:Gideon wrote:God bless Jon can for being such a talented instrumentalist and musical genius. This band owes him everything.
Hey Tito, you misspelled Cain.
slucero wrote:interesting.. never heard Cain refer to Perry's health this way...“....He was really fighting some serious health issues that really set him back. There was no going forward. We waited maybe three years between 1987-89, and we did nothing, then Bad English happened. Then Steve called in 1996, and we did Trail by Fire. We were supposed to go on tour, and then he had more health issues and these were serious ones — physically impairing.”
The_Noble_Cause wrote:A soundtrack single, 3 releases, one dvd, and nearly 10 years of touring is considered "a period of transition." Interesting.
Don wrote:Gideon wrote:God bless Jon can for being such a talented instrumentalist and musical genius. This band owes him everything.
Hey Tito, you misspelled Cain.
Tito wrote:Don wrote:Gideon wrote:God bless Jon can for being such a talented instrumentalist and musical genius. This band owes him everything.
Hey Tito, you misspelled Cain.
Not me, but I'll add my two cents. If it wasn't for Cain, this band would be no better than the equivalent of Kansas. He took them to the next level or two - elite company.
Gideon wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:A soundtrack single, 3 releases, one dvd, and nearly 10 years of touring is considered "a period of transition." Interesting.
Speaking of DVD, did anyone ever get their hands on the 30th anniversary footage?
slucero wrote:interesting.. never heard Cain refer to Perry's health this way...“....He was really fighting some serious health issues that really set him back. There was no going forward. We waited maybe three years between 1987-89, and we did nothing, then Bad English happened. Then Steve called in 1996, and we did Trail by Fire. We were supposed to go on tour, and then he had more health issues and these were serious ones — physically impairing.”
annie89509 wrote:slucero wrote:interesting.. never heard Cain refer to Perry's health this way...“....He was really fighting some serious health issues that really set him back. There was no going forward. We waited maybe three years between 1987-89, and we did nothing, then Bad English happened. Then Steve called in 1996, and we did Trail by Fire. We were supposed to go on tour, and then he had more health issues and these were serious ones — physically impairing.”
Time heals all wounds. I think the bitterness and rancor associated with the breakup have subsided. Everyone concerned, the diehards included, have pretty much got over it.
scarab wrote:sounds like Jon is implying Steve had some bad emotional problems the 1988+
makes sense.
I always thought truly toast was meant for fatigue, but there was probably some more going on.
The song strange medicine have to do with this time?
Hope Steve has healed in every way.
Gideon wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:A soundtrack single, 3 releases, one dvd, and nearly 10 years of touring is considered "a period of transition." Interesting.
Speaking of DVD, did anyone ever get their hands on the 30th anniversary footage?
jrny84 wrote:Gideon wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:A soundtrack single, 3 releases, one dvd, and nearly 10 years of touring is considered "a period of transition." Interesting.
Speaking of DVD, did anyone ever get their hands on the 30th anniversary footage?
This is on a dvd?
Gideon wrote:jrny84 wrote:Gideon wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:A soundtrack single, 3 releases, one dvd, and nearly 10 years of touring is considered "a period of transition." Interesting.
Speaking of DVD, did anyone ever get their hands on the 30th anniversary footage?
This is on a dvd?
I believe they taped footage somewhere in Texas for what was supposed to be a 30th anniversary DVD (during the 2005 tour), but then Tapegate occurred and the footage was shelved.
tater1977 wrote:Gideon wrote:jrny84 wrote:Gideon wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:A soundtrack single, 3 releases, one dvd, and nearly 10 years of touring is considered "a period of transition." Interesting.
Speaking of DVD, did anyone ever get their hands on the 30th anniversary footage?
This is on a dvd?
I believe they taped footage somewhere in Texas for what was supposed to be a 30th anniversary DVD (during the 2005 tour), but then Tapegate occurred and the footage was shelved.
Grand Prairie / Dallas TX..Not the DVD but the audio.. Didn't Hurricane Katrina hit about that time too?
fightingilliniJRNY wrote:tater1977 wrote:Gideon wrote:jrny84 wrote:Gideon wrote:The_Noble_Cause wrote:A soundtrack single, 3 releases, one dvd, and nearly 10 years of touring is considered "a period of transition." Interesting.
Speaking of DVD, did anyone ever get their hands on the 30th anniversary footage?
This is on a dvd?
I believe they taped footage somewhere in Texas for what was supposed to be a 30th anniversary DVD (during the 2005 tour), but then Tapegate occurred and the footage was shelved.
Grand Prairie / Dallas TX..Not the DVD but the audio.. Didn't Hurricane Katrina hit about that time too?
Yes, they filmed a show on the 30th Anniversary Tour in 2005 for DVD release. Never saw the light of day, which seems to be all the reason needed for understanding the Tapegate situation.
Here's a screencap from the video company that was going to do the show and did the Live in Manila DVD:
So the DVD did get produced. Just not released.
Tito wrote:Don wrote:Gideon wrote:God bless Jon can for being such a talented instrumentalist and musical genius. This band owes him everything.
Hey Tito, you misspelled Cain.
Not me, but I'll add my two cents. If it wasn't for Cain, this band would be no better than the equivalent of Kansas. He took them to the next level or two - elite company.
slucero wrote:scarab wrote:sounds like Jon is implying Steve had some bad emotional problems the 1988+
makes sense.
I always thought truly toast was meant for fatigue, but there was probably some more going on.
The song strange medicine have to do with this time?
Hope Steve has healed in every way.
I don't think it was mental at all...
"serious health" issues and "physically impairing" is pretty much to the point..
scarab wrote:slucero wrote:scarab wrote:sounds like Jon is implying Steve had some bad emotional problems the 1988+
makes sense.
I always thought truly toast was meant for fatigue, but there was probably some more going on.
The song strange medicine have to do with this time?
Hope Steve has healed in every way.
I don't think it was mental at all...
"serious health" issues and "physically impairing" is pretty much to the point..
Cain said this time physically impairing, makes me think last time he had emotional problems,
sounds right..lost his mom, his many years love, toured to death...
he needed a break, some people thrive on being crazy busy, some people break...
glad Steve could give us unbelievable music until he did.
journeyrock wrote:scarab wrote:slucero wrote:scarab wrote:sounds like Jon is implying Steve had some bad emotional problems the 1988+
makes sense.
I always thought truly toast was meant for fatigue, but there was probably some more going on.
The song strange medicine have to do with this time?
Hope Steve has healed in every way.
I don't think it was mental at all...
"serious health" issues and "physically impairing" is pretty much to the point..
Cain said this time physically impairing, makes me think last time he had emotional problems,
sounds right..lost his mom, his many years love, toured to death...
he needed a break, some people thrive on being crazy busy, some people break...
glad Steve could give us unbelievable music until he did.
I think Steve had serious emotional issues regarding his mom's death. He's said himself that he never dealt with it. It happened during ROR and he buried her and went on tour. That is breeding ground for emotional distress. He simply came to the jumping off point and that's when he left Journey. If you piece together different interviews he's given, it all tells the story.
slucero wrote:journeyrock wrote:scarab wrote:slucero wrote:scarab wrote:sounds like Jon is implying Steve had some bad emotional problems the 1988+
makes sense.
I always thought truly toast was meant for fatigue, but there was probably some more going on.
The song strange medicine have to do with this time?
Hope Steve has healed in every way.
I don't think it was mental at all...
"serious health" issues and "physically impairing" is pretty much to the point..
Cain said this time physically impairing, makes me think last time he had emotional problems,
sounds right..lost his mom, his many years love, toured to death...
he needed a break, some people thrive on being crazy busy, some people break...
glad Steve could give us unbelievable music until he did.
I think Steve had serious emotional issues regarding his mom's death. He's said himself that he never dealt with it. It happened during ROR and he buried her and went on tour. That is breeding ground for emotional distress. He simply came to the jumping off point and that's when he left Journey. If you piece together different interviews he's given, it all tells the story.
I'm more leaning towards "physically impairing" as meaning "hip replacement"... which was the incredibly physically impairing pain in the side Perry experienced on his hike in Hawaii.
The_Noble_Cause wrote:A soundtrack single, 3 releases, one dvd, and nearly 10 years of touring is considered "a period of transition." Interesting.
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