MR

Been creeping upward the last few weeks. Would be interesting to see what real numbers are like for this album and the rest of the catalog, with 770,000 album sales last year alone. If nothing else, Escape should be Diamond status by now. It's Sony's call on auditing the catalog for new RIAA certifications but they don't seem to be interested.

This is always great to hear ...any of those songs from the
Rolie era?!?

Michigan Girl wrote:This is always great to hear ...any of those songs from the
Rolie era?!?

Four.

Don wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:This is always great to hear ...any of those songs from the
Rolie era?!?

Four.

You don't say ...and it's still selling?!?

Michigan Girl wrote:

Don wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:This is always great to hear ...any of those songs from the
Rolie era?!?

Four.

You don't say ...and it's still selling?!?

Journey sold 770,000 albums last year. That includes Eclipse's debut. About 690,000 of those sales were from remasters of the back catalog.

Yeah Journey's greatest hits is way overdue to be certified 16 MP, as well as Escape being diamond, Essential due for 2 MP, and GH Live platinum. As for their DVD's: Live in Manila is platinum and their GH 78-97 has officially past the 600,000 sold and is due to be 6 MP.

Here are some current sales figures:

Greatest Hits
Year to date (2012 sales): 173,790
Soundscan Sales: 8,168,257
Total sales (including sales prior to soundscan existence): 16,533,583

*Journey's Greatest Hits is #39 on the top 100 best selling soundscan albums

Essential Journey
Current sales: 2,204,646

Greatest Hits DVD
Current Sales: 600,760

Live in Manila
Current Sales: 168,651

jrny84 wrote:Yeah Journey's greatest hits is way overdue to be certified 16 MP, as well as Escape being diamond, Essential due for 2 MP, and GH Live platinum. As for their DVD's: Live in Manila is platinum and their GH 78-97 has officially past the 600,000 sold and is due to be 6 MP.

Here are some current sales figures:

Greatest Hits
Year to date (2012 sales): 173,790
Soundscan Sales: 8,168,257
Total sales (including sales prior to soundscan existence): 16,533,583

*Journey's Greatest Hits is #39 on the top 100 best selling soundscan albums

Essential Journey
Current sales: 2,204,646

Greatest Hits DVD
Current Sales: 600,760

Live in Manila
Current Sales: 168,651

With Essential Journey being a multi-disc package, would Revelation's fuzzy math apply here? 2x platinum versus 4x platinum?

I was reading an interview with Deniece Williams and she used the term "mortgage songs" which I had never heard before but makes total sense when it comes to evergreen titles which generate royalties on a continuous basis.

Yeah. I havent seen an up to date sales figure for Revelation in a long time. I believe the approximate sales figure for Revelation is probably around 730,000 by now so it would be 1.45 MP.

I also havent seen any sales figures for Journey's Greatest Hits 2, since its initial release. That was a huge flop. Its not even selling up to the standards of Essential Journey, which typically sells between 800-1000 copies a week. I guess people already have what they want from GH 1 and Essential.

jrny84 wrote:Yeah. I havent seen an up to date sales figure for Revelation in a long time. I believe the approximate sales figure for Revelation is probably around 730,000 by now so it would be 1.45 MP.

I also havent seen any sales figures for Journey's Greatest Hits 2, since its initial release. That was a huge flop. Its not even selling up to the standards of Essential Journey, which typically sells between 800-1000 copies a week. I guess people already have what they want from GH 1 and Essential.

The Greatest Hits 2 package proved that even with marketing, you need DSB in the track list to move units.

I think Journey's devolved into a one-hit wonder band as far as my generation is concerned.

Gideon wrote:I think Journey's devolved into a one-hit wonder band as far as my generation is concerned.

Yeah, I think you maybe right. Its really sad in my opinion. They have tons of hits and its always about "Dont Stop Believin". I guess though at this point in their career, they are grateful for all the popularity and interest, regardless of how it has happened.

I did though see that "Anyway you want it" has seen a pretty good resurge and has become quite popular as well. Over the past year it has seen a steady increase in downloads. Ironically "Open Arms" used to be there most popular ballad, but "Faithfully" has taken over.

Are remasters all that in demand? Why? I guess it would have to do with each person's individuality. Me personally, I go out and buy an album because it's something new that I want to listen to. After I've heard it for so many times/years, I move on. Last remaster album I purchased was back in the late 90's or early 2000's. It was The Wall and after I listened to the new remastered album, it pretty much was just as exciting as the one I already had for a number of years. I guess it's like if say Back To The Future came out on blu-ray for $45 would I purchase it? No because I've seen it a half a dozen times already and I know exactly how the movie goes.

With the current Journey remaster, it must be perhaps 1) the new fans of the band who are interested in buying older but updated quality albums or 2) hard core Journey fan collectors wanting to add the remastered versions to their personal collection.

Don wrote:

jrny84 wrote:Yeah. I havent seen an up to date sales figure for Revelation in a long time. I believe the approximate sales figure for Revelation is probably around 730,000 by now so it would be 1.45 MP.

I also havent seen any sales figures for Journey's Greatest Hits 2, since its initial release. That was a huge flop. Its not even selling up to the standards of Essential Journey, which typically sells between 800-1000 copies a week. I guess people already have what they want from GH 1 and Essential.

The Greatest Hits 2 package proved that even with marketing, you need DSB in the track list to move units.

Aint that the truth. Should they pull some BS on their next album where they throw that on acoustic or something at the end?

Gideon wrote:I think Journey's devolved into a one-hit wonder band as far as my generation is concerned.

That's an interesting observation. I think you're right.

Gideon wrote:I think Journey's devolved into a one-hit wonder band as far as my generation is concerned.

And it's still in high demand. I was on iTunes earlier today just browsing and DSB is #3 in the "Top Ten Downloads" section. And that's "the top ten" overall! I hadn't sorted the lists by genre. I'd love to see a bar graph that showed that song's life in terms of airplay since 1980. It probably gets more air now than it did back then.

I would rather Journey be a "one hit wonder" for this generation, rather than for them to do something like collaborating with one of those no-talent hip hop artists.

at the rate DSB is going, its gonna make Journey the posterchild for 80's melodic rock, and a likely answer to a Jeopardy 2050 question..

Yoda wrote:I would rather Journey be a "one hit wonder" for this generation, rather than for them to do something like collaborating with one of those no-talent hip hop artists.

Country music is where it's at now. Lionel Ritchie re-recorded his old Commodore and solo hits with different country singers on his last release and ended up scoring his first platinum album in 20 years.

I'm thinking about that one, Giddy!! I can see it, yet not.
I'm going to say it depends on the part of the country
in which you reside ...for now. I may be exercising my
right to change my mind later.

Yoda wrote:I would rather Journey be a "one hit wonder" for this generation, rather than for them to do something like collaborating with one of those no-talent hip hop artists.

Sort of like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AguLmauJ0qY

Michigan Girl wrote:I'm thinking about that one, Giddy!! I can see it, yet not.
I'm going to say it depends on the part of the country
in which you reside ...for now. I may be exercising my
right to change my mind later.

Very cautious of you.
But I stand by it. In my experience, knowledge of Journey begins and ends with DSB in the eyes of people my age.
It's a shame, too. My father once told me that a band's best songs aren't usually their greatest hits and Journey is a shining example of that IMHO.

Don wrote:

Yoda wrote:I would rather Journey be a "one hit wonder" for this generation, rather than for them to do something like collaborating with one of those no-talent hip hop artists.

Country music is where it's at now. Lionel Ritchie re-recorded his old Commodore and solo hits with different country singers on his last release and ended up scoring his first platinum album in 20 years.

Very true. A big reason why Cain moved to Nashville. Check out his daughter's single (which he co-wrote).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8XE81bKT54

Gideon wrote:

Michigan Girl wrote:I'm thinking about that one, Giddy!! I can see it, yet not.
I'm going to say it depends on the part of the country
in which you reside ...for now. I may be exercising my
right to change my mind later.

Very cautious of you.
But I stand by it. In my experience, knowledge of Journey begins and ends with DSB in the eyes of people my age.
It's a shame, too. My father once told me that a band's best songs aren't usually their greatest hits and Journey is a shining example of that IMHO.

And smart ...I have children in your generation, my friends have children in your generation,
my children have friends and their friends have
friends ...so rather than speak for an entire generation knowing that these people ^^^
know and love Journey for more than just DSB, I'd have to presume the
music of early Journey may just be popular in top rear of the boot LA. and thumb entrance MI.

Your father is absolutely correct, but I imagine you did not need him to tell you that, right?