Journey Skeptical of Making Another Album

[Don]

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/ ... ther-album

Journey isn't planning to let its 40th anniversary go unnoticed. The group's Jonathan Cain tells Billboard that Journey is eyeballing a special show in its home town of San Francisco, most likely at AT&T Park.

"I can't really say much right now, but if we can get that to happen, that would be" the anniversary celebration, Cain says. Asked if the special show could involve former members of the band, he says "that could be" but adds it's more likely to pay tribute to one of Journey's earliest supporters.

"We're thinking more of a Bill Graham tribute kind of thing," he explains. "Bill really was a big supporter of Journey, and without Bill we'd never have played the Rose Bowl. He was our sort of godfather. So we're thinking that maybe we'll sort of wrap up the bow and do a tribute to him. We think about him a lot. He was just a tremendous guy."

The show will be part of a busy year of performing for Journey. With, "Don't Stop Believin': Everyman's Journey," a documentary about Filipino singer Arnel Pineda's time in the band debuting this week, the group is finishing a run in Australia with Deep Purple before it begins a short Japanese tour on March 11 and then heads to Europe with Whitesnake beginning March 16.

Journey plans to do some "hit and run, under the radar sort of stuff" in North America, and it's also planning to play some soccer stadiums with Rascal Flatts, Journey's partner on a recent "CMT Crossroads" episode.

"We want to think outside the box and try some new things and play with some different folks and just really strengthen the brand on a worldwide sort of campaign," Cain explains. "We want to continue bringing Journey music to different places. It's exciting to go out and win people over like that."

What Cain is less sure about, however, is another Journey album. After the lukewarm response to 2011's harder-rocking "Eclipse," its second release with Pineda, Cain says that, "We're not convinced the market will bear another CD from us, and it's so much work to make one. We have a great catalog right now to play. We have a lot of songs we're not even playing, so what's the point of making a new CD right now?" He does, however, say an EP of some sort could be possible, and the group is hoping to land some material in a movie in the near future.

"If our creative juices get flowing enough, we might be like, 'OK, let's try another album,' " Cain allows, but he says it will be closer to vintage Journey than "Eclipse" was. "I enjoyed the process of making 'Eclipse;' it was a great experiment and a great challenge, but it wasn't received very well. So I think we need to stay sort of closer to who we are, to who we've been -- great songs, great melodies, harmonies -- and not worry about if it's heavy or not. Our fans are getting older, man; they're not headbangers anymore. So if we do anything, I think we need to go back to the center."

[slucero]

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/1551356/journey-skeptical-of-making-another-album

Journey isn't planning to let its 40th anniversary go unnoticed. The group's Jonathan Cain tells Billboard that Journey is eyeballing a special show in its home town of San Francisco, most likely at AT&T Park.

"I can't really say much right now, but if we can get that to happen, that would be" the anniversary celebration, Cain says. Asked if the special show could involve former members of the band, he says "that could be" but adds it's more likely to pay tribute to one of Journey's earliest supporters.

"We're thinking more of a Bill Graham tribute kind of thing," he explains. "Bill really was a big supporter of Journey, and without Bill we'd never have played the Rose Bowl. He was our sort of godfather. So we're thinking that maybe we'll sort of wrap up the bow and do a tribute to him. We think about him a lot. He was just a tremendous guy."

The show will be part of a busy year of performing for Journey. With, "Don't Stop Believin': Everyman's Journey," a documentary about Filipino singer Arnel Pineda's time in the band debuting this week, the group is finishing a run in Australia with Deep Purple before it begins a short Japanese tour on March 11 and then heads to Europe with Whitesnake beginning March 16.

Journey plans to do some "hit and run, under the radar sort of stuff" in North America, and it's also planning to play some soccer stadiums with Rascal Flatts, Journey's partner on a recent "CMT Crossroads" episode.

"We want to think outside the box and try some new things and play with some different folks and just really strengthen the brand on a worldwide sort of campaign," Cain explains. "We want to continue bringing Journey music to different places. It's exciting to go out and win people over like that."

What Cain is less sure about, however, is another Journey album. After the lukewarm response to 2011's harder-rocking "Eclipse," its second release with Pineda, Cain says that, "We're not convinced the market will bear another CD from us, and it's so much work to make one. We have a great catalog right now to play. We have a lot of songs we're not even playing, so what's the point of making a new CD right now?" He does, however, say an EP of some sort could be possible, and the group is hoping to land some material in a movie in the near future.

"If our creative juices get flowing enough, we might be like, 'OK, let's try another album,' " Cain allows, but he says it will be closer to vintage Journey than "Eclipse" was. "I enjoyed the process of making 'Eclipse;' it was a great experiment and a great challenge, but it wasn't received very well. So I think we need to stay sort of closer to who we are, to who we've been -- great songs, great melodies, harmonies -- and not worry about if it's heavy or not. Our fans are getting older, man; they're not headbangers anymore. So if we do anything, I think we need to go back to the center."

I wonder who they'll tap to produce...

[Don]

Kevin Shirley can tell them to go jump off a cliff. The last Iron Maiden album he produced went to #1 in 24 countries and top five in the US. He doesn't need drama from these guys again.
If no big retailer steps in, I see Jon and Neal Producing it as Cain's Studio in Nashville. Doesn't the guy who helped on the final mix/production of Eclipse also live there too? Bring him on board. Eclipse sounds like 10x times better than the Cain produced Disc 2 of Revelation so let's not go there again.
Sell it as an iTunes/Amazon download in the States and have Frontiers sell a CD version of it overseas.

[Deb]

Kevin Shirley can tell them to go jump off a cliff. The last Iron Maiden album he produced went to #1 in 24 countries and top five in the US. He doesn't need drama from these guys again.
If no big retailer steps in, I see Jon and Neal Producing it as Cain's Studio in Nashville. Sell it as an iTunes/Amazon download in the States and have Frontiers sell a CD version of it overseas.

Was just watching him in action the other day. Love it when bands put 'the making of' footage on their dvds. I find the whole creative process interesting as hell. He comes in around the 5 min mark and puts his two cents in and they play around with it. Is he Australian or Britsh? He's got a slight accent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA0Ye3i03FQ

[Don]

Kevin Shirley can tell them to go jump off a cliff. The last Iron Maiden album he produced went to #1 in 24 countries and top five in the US. He doesn't need drama from these guys again.
If no big retailer steps in, I see Jon and Neal Producing it as Cain's Studio in Nashville. Sell it as an iTunes/Amazon download in the States and have Frontiers sell a CD version of it overseas.

Was just watching him in action the other day. Love it when bands put 'the making of' footage on their dvds. I find the whole creative process interesting as hell. He comes in around the 5 min mark and puts his two cents in and they play around with it. Is he Australian or Britsh? He's got a slight accent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA0Ye3i03FQ

South African, so that would be a Dutch accent if anything.

[Deb]

Kevin Shirley can tell them to go jump off a cliff. The last Iron Maiden album he produced went to #1 in 24 countries and top five in the US. He doesn't need drama from these guys again.
If no big retailer steps in, I see Jon and Neal Producing it as Cain's Studio in Nashville. Sell it as an iTunes/Amazon download in the States and have Frontiers sell a CD version of it overseas.

Was just watching him in action the other day. Love it when bands put 'the making of' footage on their dvds. I find the whole creative process interesting as hell. He comes in around the 5 min mark and puts his two cents in and they play around with it. Is he Australian or British? He's got a slight accent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA0Ye3i03FQ

South African, so that would be a Dutch accent if anything.

Really? LOL...I had him pegged as Australian. That makes sense though, his isn't a strong accent.

[Rick]

Kevin Shirley can tell them to go jump off a cliff. The last Iron Maiden album he produced went to #1 in 24 countries and top five in the US. He doesn't need drama from these guys again.
If no big retailer steps in, I see Jon and Neal Producing it as Cain's Studio in Nashville. Doesn't the guy who helped on the final mix/production of Eclipse also live there too? Bring him on board. Eclipse sounds like 10x times better than the Cain produced Disc 2 of Revelation so let's not go there again.
Sell it as an iTunes/Amazon download in the States and have Frontiers sell a CD version of it overseas.

Yes, and he posts here every once in a while.

[Don]

Kevin Shirley can tell them to go jump off a cliff. The last Iron Maiden album he produced went to #1 in 24 countries and top five in the US. He doesn't need drama from these guys again.
If no big retailer steps in, I see Jon and Neal Producing it as Cain's Studio in Nashville. Sell it as an iTunes/Amazon download in the States and have Frontiers sell a CD version of it overseas.

Was just watching him in action the other day. Love it when bands put 'the making of' footage on their dvds. I find the whole creative process interesting as hell. He comes in around the 5 min mark and puts his two cents in and they play around with it. Is he Australian or British? He's got a slight accent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA0Ye3i03FQ

South African, so that would be a Dutch accent if anything.

Really? LOL...I had him pegged as Australian. That makes sense though, his isn't a strong accent.

He did move to Australia when he was 27 but that's a bit late to start picking up another accent. He's lived here in the states for quite a while now too, I believe.

[The_Noble_Cause]

So I think we need to stay sort of closer to who we are, to who we've been -- great songs, great melodies, harmonies -- and not worry about if it's heavy or not.

"Arrival" had great songs and melodies and "Generations", although a shitty album, had some good stuff as well. Neither of these albums sold very well. Cain is delusional.

[Andrew]

Kevin Shirley can tell them to go jump off a cliff. The last Iron Maiden album he produced went to #1 in 24 countries and top five in the US. He doesn't need drama from these guys again.
If no big retailer steps in, I see Jon and Neal Producing it as Cain's Studio in Nashville. Sell it as an iTunes/Amazon download in the States and have Frontiers sell a CD version of it overseas.

Was just watching him in action the other day. Love it when bands put 'the making of' footage on their dvds. I find the whole creative process interesting as hell. He comes in around the 5 min mark and puts his two cents in and they play around with it. Is he Australian or British? He's got a slight accent?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA0Ye3i03FQ

South African, so that would be a Dutch accent if anything.

Really? LOL...I had him pegged as Australian. That makes sense though, his isn't a strong accent.

Born SA, raised and worked his career here in Oz.

[jrnyman28]

Not Headbangers ANYMORE? There weren't many.