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Postby Archetype » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:08 am

$55 for the bad seats? This place holds 440 people. I'm considering going. About a 2 hour drive for me.

Catch the unmistakable sound of Steve Augeri – a former lead singer of Journey! After the release of hit singles “Rich Man’s World,” “Photograph” and “Riverside,” the melodic rocker brings down the house with a live performance you simply can’t miss!

Bear's Den Showroom
310 Fourth Street, Niagara Falls, New York 14303
Friday, May 3, 2013
Tickets Start at $55


The venue:

http://www.senecaniagaracasino.com/bears-den
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Postby AR » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:09 am

How big can the venue be? Can't imagine the seats are that bad.
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Postby AR » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:11 am

Looked it up. Small place, $71 top ticket. Seems a bit high but it is a casino. Steve puts on a great show and if you want to see him, I think $55 is ok.
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Postby marco17 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:47 am

SA puts on a great show. Looking at the site, I think the Casino is trying to take advantage of the Journey connection, hence the higher priced tickets. Most of the other shows start at $30-$35.
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Postby jrnyman28 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:17 am

I love Steve Augeri and wish I could see him play but "hit singles" is a stretch...
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Postby ebake02 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 11:13 am

marco17 wrote:SA puts on a great show. Looking at the site, I think the Casino is trying to take advantage of the Journey connection, hence the higher priced tickets. Most of the other shows start at $30-$35.


Plus it's a Seneca Indian casino and they are the greediest group of people I have ever seen. Ticket prices at their casino in Salamanca are pricey too.
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Postby AR » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:46 pm

It depends if you want A.I. crooning.

Or

If you would like to hear the guy who was in the band for a long time and saved them.

These clips never work, but here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuozBIse59s

I would go see Steve A anytime.
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Postby AR » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:49 pm

Augeri saved Journey.

They would not exist in 2013 without him.

Accept what he can give you in 2013. I do.

Great guy who saved them. I know what went down, but now this really nice guy can pour his heart out for you.

Go see the guy. Don't go A.I. on him. Just enjoy it.
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Postby Andrew » Sat Mar 30, 2013 4:42 pm

Come to MRF3 and see another 9 other bands for the same price.
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Postby MCC620 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:25 am

Andrew wrote:Come to MRF3 and see another 9 other bands for the same price.


your sunday only ticket is $65 just saying.... :lol:

$55 is hardly over priced. this isn't a tribute band. as AR said it's the guy who did it for years with the band. Gerard, Craig, Adam and Mike are seasoned professionals who had their success as part of Valentine. You will hear the classics, some Arrival and new solo SA music. Maybe even some Zeppelin or Joe Walsh. and enjoy every minute of it..

and yes I am very biased 8)
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Postby AR » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:42 am

Andrew wrote:Come to MRF3 and see another 9 other bands for the same price.


Planning on that myself. Can't pull that trigger yet, but please inform me if it gets near sellout mode my friend.
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Postby AR » Sun Mar 31, 2013 4:58 am

You will get to maybe here an Arrival song live which if you are a fan of the history of the band is worth it right there!

Poor quality from my old shitty phone but hopefully this helps you with your decision

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGoIQY-SHxk
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Postby jestor92 » Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:22 pm

$55 for a karaoke singer :lol:

I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but if you're going to spend $55 to go see Augeri perform Journey songs that he had no hand in writing you're essentially going to see a tribute band. Sure he'll perform a few of the songs that were a part of his days leading the band, but I've see his set lists and the majority of the songs are Steve Perry Journey songs.
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Postby Eric » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:22 am

I would love to hear some Augeri era tunes, but those prices are absurd. I'm not 100% sure I'd pay that to see a Perry solo tour.
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Postby AR » Mon Apr 01, 2013 12:27 am

jestor92 wrote:$55 for a karaoke singer :lol:



And what does that make Pineda?
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Postby musicfan17 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 2:50 am

Putting the price aside..(for what it's worth $55 is too much IMO for a show like this)... I'd go see Steve Augeri live if he came to my region/area. He was an integral part of Journey for a good many years and helped resurrect the band. He voice has recovered enough that he can do this level of shows and I'd love to hear Arrival era tunes (which Journey never plays these days).
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Apr 01, 2013 4:06 am

I'm a fan, so I'd go. Is it worth the ticket price? Not really. Neither was Journey when I last saw them. Or any concert.
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Postby jestor92 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:15 pm

AR wrote:
jestor92 wrote:$55 for a karaoke singer :lol:



And what does that make Pineda?

A guy who is singing songs with 3/5's of the band that made those songs famous behind him.

Seriously as long as Arnel is in the band and an official member of the band I don't see a reason why he shouldn't be singing those songs. He's got 3/5th's of the band that made them famous playing the music behind his voice.

In Augeri's case he's got 0 members of his band including himself singing songs recorded by the band he used to front. If he were to say have a set that was mostly Augeri era Journey with some Tyketto, Tall Stories, and solo Steve in there mixed with a few Journey classics I wouldn't have any issue with that. However in the setlists I've seen he's performing a mostly GH Journey setlist with 2-3 songs of his era in there or his solo work. $55 for a karaoke group with a karaoke singer, he might as well paint his face white and call the band KISS because that's a wallet raping of his fan base.
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Re: Is a Steve Augeri show worth

Postby Don » Mon Apr 01, 2013 5:39 pm

Archetype wrote:$55 for the bad seats? This place holds 440 people. I'm considering going. About a 2 hour drive for me.

Catch the unmistakable sound of Steve Augeri – a former lead singer of Journey! After the release of hit singles “Rich Man’s World,” “Photograph” and “Riverside,” the melodic rocker brings down the house with a live performance you simply can’t miss!

Bear's Den Showroom
310 Fourth Street, Niagara Falls, New York 14303
Friday, May 3, 2013
Tickets Start at $55


The venue:

http://www.senecaniagaracasino.com/bears-den


Hmmm...Compared to two other Journey members I've seen:

Steve Smith - $15
Neal Schon - $26

No. For me anyway.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:11 pm

AR wrote:
jestor92 wrote:$55 for a karaoke singer :lol:



And what does that make Pineda?


Pineda has his voice on new Journey albums. Not his fault the band doesn't always play them. He is also fronting a band with original members with him. The karaoke singer bullshit really needs to stop.

A Karaoke singer grabs a mic and sings to a screen with words scrolling across it, while music plays in the back ground. Anyone who can handle the grueling task of touring for the past several years singing Journey songs with the band known as Journey can hardly be referred to as a karaoke singer. Those are weekend bar warriors, not professionals. Anyone referring to Pineda as a karaoke singer has some serious ignorance going on. So, that shit should die immediately, henceforth.
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Postby Don » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:24 pm

steveo777 wrote:
AR wrote:
jestor92 wrote:$55 for a karaoke singer :lol:



And what does that make Pineda?


Pineda has his voice on new Journey albums. Not his fault the band doesn't always play them. He is also fronting a band with original members with him. The karaoke singer bullshit really needs to stop.

A Karaoke singer grabs a mic and sings to a screen with words scrolling across it, while music plays in the back ground. Anyone who can handle the grueling task of touring for the past several years singing Journey songs with the band known as Journey can hardly be referred to as a karaoke singer. Those are weekend bar warriors, not professionals. Anyone referring to Pineda as a karaoke singer has some serious ignorance going on. So, that shit should die immediately, henceforth.


Actually, Pineda has used a screen for reading the lyrics on more than one occasion.
I won't call Pineda a karaoke singer but I will call him a hired gun. When the tour ends, he goes home. He has almost no creative input to what goes on with the band. He seems very content to do his hours and then go home like a regular clock watcher. The band used to hang out at each others houses, sitting around the piano and making music. That's all gone now. Arnel seems to have no drive at all as far as helping the band move in ANY direction. He's a yes man, just waiting for the phone to ring and to show up where he's told.
Again, not a karaoke singer but definitely not a musical artist either.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 6:36 pm

Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
AR wrote:
jestor92 wrote:$55 for a karaoke singer :lol:



And what does that make Pineda?


Pineda has his voice on new Journey albums. Not his fault the band doesn't always play them. He is also fronting a band with original members with him. The karaoke singer bullshit really needs to stop.

A Karaoke singer grabs a mic and sings to a screen with words scrolling across it, while music plays in the back ground. Anyone who can handle the grueling task of touring for the past several years singing Journey songs with the band known as Journey can hardly be referred to as a karaoke singer. Those are weekend bar warriors, not professionals. Anyone referring to Pineda as a karaoke singer has some serious ignorance going on. So, that shit should die immediately, henceforth.


Actually, Pineda has used a screen for reading the lyrics on more than one occasion.
I won't call Pineda a karaoke singer but I will call him a hired gun. When the tour ends, he goes home. He has almost no creative input to what goes on with the band. He seems very content to do his hours and then go home like a regular clock watcher. The band used to hang out at each others houses, sitting around the piano and making music. That's all gone now. Arnel seems to have no drive at all as far as helping the band move in ANY direction. He's a yes man, just waiting for the phone to ring and to show up where he's told.
Again, not a karaoke singer but definitely not a musical artist either.


I've heard this and looked for it, but not much evidence of it. If that were true he'd be spending much more time looking at the screen, which just happens to look like a floor monitor. Tell me, from what you have seen of him darting about, when does he have time to look at a screen? For a cue as to the set list, or maybe a quick study on a lesser travelled song? Sure. The thought that he is reading all or most of his lyrics is ridiculous at best. He isn't.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Apr 01, 2013 7:01 pm

Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
AR wrote:
jestor92 wrote:$55 for a karaoke singer :lol:



And what does that make Pineda?


Pineda has his voice on new Journey albums. Not his fault the band doesn't always play them. He is also fronting a band with original members with him. The karaoke singer bullshit really needs to stop.

A Karaoke singer grabs a mic and sings to a screen with words scrolling across it, while music plays in the back ground. Anyone who can handle the grueling task of touring for the past several years singing Journey songs with the band known as Journey can hardly be referred to as a karaoke singer. Those are weekend bar warriors, not professionals. Anyone referring to Pineda as a karaoke singer has some serious ignorance going on. So, that shit should die immediately, henceforth.


Actually, Pineda has used a screen for reading the lyrics on more than one occasion.
I won't call Pineda a karaoke singer but I will call him a hired gun. When the tour ends, he goes home. He has almost no creative input to what goes on with the band. He seems very content to do his hours and then go home like a regular clock watcher. The band used to hang out at each others houses, sitting around the piano and making music. That's all gone now. Arnel seems to have no drive at all as far as helping the band move in ANY direction. He's a yes man, just waiting for the phone to ring and to show up where he's told.
Again, not a karaoke singer but definitely not a musical artist either.


I've heard this and looked for it, but not much evidence of it. If that were true he'd be spending much more time looking at the screen, which just happens to look like a floor monitor. Tell me, from what you have seen of him darting about, when does he have time to look at a screen? For a cue as to the set list, or maybe a quick study on a lesser travelled song? Sure. The thought that he is reading all or most of his lyrics is ridiculous at best. He isn't.


As I said, it was done on more than one occasion (especially in Europe). but once Eclipse was dumped from the setlist, it doesn't seem needed anymore.

Anyway, I've been checking out his new website, talk about a dead zone; from 4,000 members to about two dozen actively posting. Talk about fortunes changing on the home front. Dude needs to milk the Journey experience for as long as he can because there doesn't seem to be any major calling for him in his own home turf now days.


Of course not. You have the regular TV shows and their karaoke singers covering every artist's songs, singing all the ballads to their heart's desire. Hopefully, Arnel has managed his money well and might want to consider taking the legitimate route to moving here, for his kid's sake. Why go back to stuggling in the P.I. when the Journey gig ends?
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Postby Aaron » Mon Apr 01, 2013 9:19 pm

Go see the new Journey move. They talk about using teleprompters in the movie.

steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
AR wrote:
jestor92 wrote:$55 for a karaoke singer :lol:



And what does that make Pineda?


Pineda has his voice on new Journey albums. Not his fault the band doesn't always play them. He is also fronting a band with original members with him. The karaoke singer bullshit really needs to stop.

A Karaoke singer grabs a mic and sings to a screen with words scrolling across it, while music plays in the back ground. Anyone who can handle the grueling task of touring for the past several years singing Journey songs with the band known as Journey can hardly be referred to as a karaoke singer. Those are weekend bar warriors, not professionals. Anyone referring to Pineda as a karaoke singer has some serious ignorance going on. So, that shit should die immediately, henceforth.


Actually, Pineda has used a screen for reading the lyrics on more than one occasion.
I won't call Pineda a karaoke singer but I will call him a hired gun. When the tour ends, he goes home. He has almost no creative input to what goes on with the band. He seems very content to do his hours and then go home like a regular clock watcher. The band used to hang out at each others houses, sitting around the piano and making music. That's all gone now. Arnel seems to have no drive at all as far as helping the band move in ANY direction. He's a yes man, just waiting for the phone to ring and to show up where he's told.
Again, not a karaoke singer but definitely not a musical artist either.


I've heard this and looked for it, but not much evidence of it. If that were true he'd be spending much more time looking at the screen, which just happens to look like a floor monitor. Tell me, from what you have seen of him darting about, when does he have time to look at a screen? For a cue as to the set list, or maybe a quick study on a lesser travelled song? Sure. The thought that he is reading all or most of his lyrics is ridiculous at best. He isn't.
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Postby Onestepper » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:18 am

Will he be singing live or will it be Memorex? I'd never pay that ticket price for a karaoke singer. I won't even pay that anymore with half of the original band and a karaoke singer.
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Postby Archetype » Tue Apr 02, 2013 1:23 am

steveo777 wrote:
Don wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
AR wrote:
jestor92 wrote:$55 for a karaoke singer :lol:



And what does that make Pineda?


Pineda has his voice on new Journey albums. Not his fault the band doesn't always play them. He is also fronting a band with original members with him. The karaoke singer bullshit really needs to stop.

A Karaoke singer grabs a mic and sings to a screen with words scrolling across it, while music plays in the back ground. Anyone who can handle the grueling task of touring for the past several years singing Journey songs with the band known as Journey can hardly be referred to as a karaoke singer. Those are weekend bar warriors, not professionals. Anyone referring to Pineda as a karaoke singer has some serious ignorance going on. So, that shit should die immediately, henceforth.


Actually, Pineda has used a screen for reading the lyrics on more than one occasion.
I won't call Pineda a karaoke singer but I will call him a hired gun. When the tour ends, he goes home. He has almost no creative input to what goes on with the band. He seems very content to do his hours and then go home like a regular clock watcher. The band used to hang out at each others houses, sitting around the piano and making music. That's all gone now. Arnel seems to have no drive at all as far as helping the band move in ANY direction. He's a yes man, just waiting for the phone to ring and to show up where he's told.
Again, not a karaoke singer but definitely not a musical artist either.


I've heard this and looked for it, but not much evidence of it.


Apparently you haven't watched the Manila DVD?
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Postby DracIsBack » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:18 am

I can't believe you guys are arguing over whether or not Augeri singing the songs that Steve Perry made famous is any more or less karaoke than Pineda singing the songs that Steve Perry made famous.

I might be laughing about this for the next hour ...

The show isn't too far from me so I might consider going.
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Postby jestor92 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:07 am

steveo777 wrote:
AR wrote:
jestor92 wrote:$55 for a karaoke singer :lol:



And what does that make Pineda?


Pineda has his voice on new Journey albums. Not his fault the band doesn't always play them. He is also fronting a band with original members with him. The karaoke singer bullshit really needs to stop.

A Karaoke singer grabs a mic and sings to a screen with words scrolling across it, while music plays in the back ground. Anyone who can handle the grueling task of touring for the past several years singing Journey songs with the band known as Journey can hardly be referred to as a karaoke singer. Those are weekend bar warriors, not professionals. Anyone referring to Pineda as a karaoke singer has some serious ignorance going on. So, that shit should die immediately, henceforth.

It looks like we need tags for Augeri and Arnel. We can call Augeri the Lip Syncer and Arnel the karaoke man.

Also as far as the video monitor thing plenty of musicians use it so they can remember the words to their songs. Ozzy is known to use it a lot, I've seen The Black Crowes tape lyric sheets to the stage before the show so they know the lyrics to newer matierial or cover songs.
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Re: Is a Steve Augeri show worth

Postby Joe From Buffalo » Thu May 02, 2013 12:17 am

The Bears Den is hands down the best venue anyone could play. The sound is always immaculate and not a bad seat in the house. We will be reviewing the show.......stay tuned www.rockshowcritique.com
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