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Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby brywool » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:02 am

Had a long drive last night. Listened to a lot of the Generations Dallas show. This was the one they filmed and were going to release on DVD but never did. Augeri sounded Great on it. It makes me wonder if it was one of the Taped Vocals shows. Does anyone know? It was just too long of a show and his voice was on pitch and powerful throughout. Just seemed way too consistent considering when it was recorded
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby Schon Rules All » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:54 pm

How do I get said show?? ;)
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby PianoMan1986 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:29 pm

Schon Rules All wrote:How do I get said show?? ;)


Ditto 8)
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby jestor92 » Sun Jul 28, 2013 4:17 pm

Agreed on how do i get said show?
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby Gideon » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:46 pm

PianoMan1986 wrote:
Schon Rules All wrote:How do I get said show?? ;)


Ditto 8)


Likewise.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby fightingilliniJRNY » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:01 am

Canned vocals, which is absolutely the reason it was not released. It would have been the death knell to put out a commercially released DVD that could have been compared with another commercially released DVD (2001 Arrival) with the same vocals. No question about it.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby RedWingFan » Mon Jul 29, 2013 4:20 am

fightingilliniJRNY wrote:Canned vocals, which is absolutely the reason it was not released. It would have been the death knell to put out a commercially released DVD that could have been compared with another commercially released DVD (2001 Arrival) with the same vocals. No question about it.

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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Mon Jul 29, 2013 12:38 pm

If its from the Generations tour, the odds are overwhelming that its canned vox. SA's voice went down early into that tour. Crowd banter is live. Ad libs at the end of songs are live. The encore, LTS, is also 100% live.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby kgdjpubs » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:55 pm

Gideon wrote:
PianoMan1986 wrote:
Schon Rules All wrote:How do I get said show?? ;)


Ditto 8)


Likewise.


my thoughts exactly...
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby Jeremey » Mon Jul 29, 2013 11:29 pm

The lead vocals were from tracks. It could not be released commercially, "someone" ended up eating all the production expenses on that one.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby FamilyMan » Tue Jul 30, 2013 8:01 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:If its from the Generations tour, the odds are overwhelming that its canned vox. SA's voice went down early into that tour. Crowd banter is live. Ad libs at the end of songs are live. The encore, LTS, is also 100% live.


My favorite Journey tour since "Vacation's Over." Kevin Elson once told me that the reason the Generations DVD was never released was because of Augeri's problematic vocals. So that tells me they WEREN'T canned.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby Rick » Tue Jul 30, 2013 9:05 am

FamilyMan wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:If its from the Generations tour, the odds are overwhelming that its canned vox. SA's voice went down early into that tour. Crowd banter is live. Ad libs at the end of songs are live. The encore, LTS, is also 100% live.


My favorite Journey tour since "Vacation's Over." Kevin Elson once told me that the reason the Generations DVD was never released was because of Augeri's problematic vocals. So that tells me they WEREN'T canned.


He lied to you. They were absolutely canned.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby FamilyMan » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:40 pm

Rick wrote:
FamilyMan wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:If its from the Generations tour, the odds are overwhelming that its canned vox. SA's voice went down early into that tour. Crowd banter is live. Ad libs at the end of songs are live. The encore, LTS, is also 100% live.


My favorite Journey tour since "Vacation's Over." Kevin Elson once told me that the reason the Generations DVD was never released was because of Augeri's problematic vocals. So that tells me they WEREN'T canned.


He lied to you. They were absolutely canned.


Well then technically, I guess, he was actually telling the truth.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby Jeremey » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:11 pm

Elson wasn't lying ... because Augeri's vocals were problematic. They didn't always match up with the movement of his lips during extreme close up footage ... and they had already been released to DVD on the 2001 Vegas concert.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby steveo777 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:21 pm

Jeremey wrote:Elson wasn't lying ... because Augeri's vocals were problematic. They didn't always match up with the movement of his lips during extreme close up footage ... and they had already been released to DVD on the 2001 Vegas concert.


That DVD, as I understand was all reworked in the studio, right?
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:22 pm

FamilyMan wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:If its from the Generations tour, the odds are overwhelming that its canned vox. SA's voice went down early into that tour. Crowd banter is live. Ad libs at the end of songs are live. The encore, LTS, is also 100% live.


My favorite Journey tour since "Vacation's Over." Kevin Elson once told me that the reason the Generations DVD was never released was because of Augeri's problematic vocals. So that tells me they WEREN'T canned.


According to Herbie and others, Augeri's vocals were problematic during the filming of Vegas 2001. And that got a release. So it stands to reason that the Generations dvd was never released for other reasons. Someone once posted a link to the website of the production company behind the unreleased Dallas dvd. They had a snippet of footage on their website.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:25 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Jeremey wrote:Elson wasn't lying ... because Augeri's vocals were problematic. They didn't always match up with the movement of his lips during extreme close up footage ... and they had already been released to DVD on the 2001 Vegas concert.


That DVD, as I understand was all reworked in the studio, right?


On the back DVD cover, the credits says that the vocals were produced by Kevin Shirley. The question is, to what extent? I am willing to give Augeri the benefit of the doubt. However, their European tour revealed that they had re-recorded alot of the back catalog including rarer tracks like Dead or Alive and Edge of the Blade.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby Rick » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:31 pm

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
Jeremey wrote:Elson wasn't lying ... because Augeri's vocals were problematic. They didn't always match up with the movement of his lips during extreme close up footage ... and they had already been released to DVD on the 2001 Vegas concert.


That DVD, as I understand was all reworked in the studio, right?


On the back DVD cover, the credits says that the vocals were produced by Kevin Shirley. The question is, to what extent? I am willing to give Augeri the benefit of the doubt. However, their European tour revealed that they had re-recorded alot of the back catalog including rarer tracks like Dead or Alive and Edge of the Blade.


Shirley? I never saw that. I didn't know they were dealing with him then.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby annie89509 » Tue Jul 30, 2013 7:54 pm

I remember reading on Perryville about this concert, in 2005. Posters reported on complaints coming from the show. Apparently, the band hired strippers (showgirls?) to occupy the front rows for filming, causing quite a stir among "real" fans who got shoved back. The "plants" were paid to cheer, holler, dance to every note, every song. That, or they seemed high on something. It was funny learning of this ...

Rick ... Kevin Shirley produced Arrival, his 2nd with the band, after TBF. So, I think they kept him on to produce the dvd.
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Re: Journey Augeri Dallas Show

Postby brywool » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:59 pm

Jeremey wrote:The lead vocals were from tracks. It could not be released commercially, "someone" ended up eating all the production expenses on that one.


that explains it. It was too good. Thanks Jeremey.
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