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Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:22 am
by tater1977
Cain Talks Ball-Journey

http://www.stlbaseballweekly.com/cain-t ... l-journey/

-listen to interview

The St. Louis Cardinals had a special visitor in the dugout prior to Saturday’s game–Journey keyboardist, Jonathan Cain.

“I’ve always been–Stan Musial growing up, believe it or not I’m that old. Lou Brock, I’m that old,” explained Cain, who was a guest of Mike Matheny. “I lived in Chicago, so I grew up in Wrigley. My brother and I used to play hooky whenever our heroes would come to town.”

Cain expanded his appreciation for the Cardinals as he connected and got to know Tony La Russa a few years ago and performed at some AARF events.

“I was living in the Bay area, but had one foot in Cardinal land and now I’m full–I live in Nashville, so I’m a Cardinal fan, for real,” stated Cain. “I’m really glad Mike is at the helm. He’s a classy guy. Smart. He’s gonna be great. He’s gonna be great for the next 10 years, I think because he’s a class guy. That stands for what you guys are–you look in that clubhouse and see all those pennants. Very few teams, except the Yankees maybe, stand in that same legacy.”

Cain, who before joining Journey in the early 80s was also a member of the Babys and later Bad English, had aspirations of music and sport.

“I played baseball as much as I practiced my piano,” he shared. “You take baseball lessons to band practice, you take them to rehearsal, you take them to concert-backstage and you learn what teamwork is supposed to be. Communication, perseverance–you get through it. Somebody gets hurt, you stick up for somebody. Somebody gets stepped on, you stick up for somebody. It served me well–I think baseball has a lot to offer lessons of life. I’m glad I was a member of all those teams.”

A left-handed outfielder with “pretty good speed”, he was used to batting lead-off.

“Always had a pretty good eye for the ball,” said Cain, who also recalled Journey playing games against local radio stations while on tour. “They’d bring ringers and we’d have to whine about it, so we would get our truck drivers.”

“We had some pretty good players, the only problem is half the time they were at the gig or they had to set-up.”

Journey remains on tour and will next be on stage at the Hollywood Bowl in Los Angeles, California next week. Arnel Pineda is the lead singer for the band, but especially with former frontman Steve Perry singing during the playoffs last year with the San Francisco Giants, it has renewed the question of a possible reunion for the band.

“We were asked to do the National Anthem once and then they 86-ed us, Neal (Schon) and I, ” said Cain of the Giants. “We were like, hey what the heck? Then they had ‘singer of Journey’ and we were like no, that’s former singer. So when they went into the playoffs, our manager called the network and said it’s got to say former.

“What’s the chances of him coming back? He’s got an open invitation anytime he wants to sing with Journey. He could come next week when we’re in Hollywood Bowl and sing with us if he wants. But, he chooses not to. I think he likes his retired life and he had his day and you’ve got to know when you had your time. He’s got a great legacy–he’s still a big part of our alumni. He’s a big part of the sound of Journey, we respect that.

“That’s what people don’t know–we’ve invited him to come out and sing,” revealed Cain. “I hope in my heart that he gets back out and just sings again–whether it’s with us or on his own. Just go do it Steve because that’s what God made you to do. It’s a shame that he’s not out there because he’s a great voice. Never in my wildest dreams of 1983 would I say the guy’s retired. I get to work with these great bands–Ann Wilson from Heart, Robin Zander from Cheap Trick–I’m like they’re still doing it, Steve you see this?”

While it hasn’t happened yet, Cain is eyeing a potential gig in the future to get Perry back on stage with Journey.

“The best shot we’ve got with Steve Perry is the Hall of Fame,” he explained. “If they vote us into the Hall, the rules are that he has to show up and sing two songs. So we force his hand. That’s what I pray for now.”

“It could be great, I look forward to it,” continued Cain. “I adore the man. I thought he was true talent, one of the greatest things in my life was getting to write with him, for real. I look back on those days as fond memories. He knows. He knows where we live. So that’s his call, we put the ball in his court.”

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:31 am
by tater1977
Hired Gun - The Documentary It will theatrical and released in DVD world wide , hoping for a fall release

- editing has begun ... docu due out in Fall 2015


First look at Neal Schon on if he see's Steve Perry joining Journey again!

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Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:41 am
by Journey/Survivor
I went to a Baseball game between Bad English and WMMS (Famous Cleveland Radio station) back in either 1989 or 1990. Schon and Wait went to the game, but they didn't even bother playing. I spoke to them when they sat in the "dugout" during the game. Cain, Phillips and Castronovo did play in the game along with some of their road-crew members.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 12:50 pm
by perryfan61
I can't see SP ever getting back on stage with the band.....even if they were voted into the HOF. I think he's made a promise to himself that he won't sing with them again, and he is sticking to it.

On the other hand, I do wish he would at least talk to Jon. I can understand ignoring Neal, but not Jon. They had such great creative chemistry together, it would be great to see them work together again. I know...dream on :roll:

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:35 pm
by Marabelle
How many people have broken promises? Promises are meant to be broken. Doesn't mean that there's something wrong with you if you change your mind. I think you have to be flexible. There might be something wrong with you if you don't change your mind. I see him on stage with the other members of the band and belting out a few songs. No Storytellers on VH1 I can see it might be difficult to get to that level and sing for 2 hours but HOF; well, that kind of puts the glue on things. I do not see him turning HOF down but nothing surprises me.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:47 pm
by Majestic
perryfan61 wrote:I can't see SP ever getting back on stage with the band.....even if they were voted into the HOF. I think he's made a promise to himself that he won't sing with them again, and he is sticking to it.

On the other hand, I do wish he would at least talk to Jon. I can understand ignoring Neal, but not Jon. They had such great creative chemistry together, it would be great to see them work together again. I know...dream on :roll:


Why do you feel he is more justified to ignore Neal than John?

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 2:44 am
by perryfan61
Majestic wrote:
perryfan61 wrote:I can't see SP ever getting back on stage with the band.....even if they were voted into the HOF. I think he's made a promise to himself that he won't sing with them again, and he is sticking to it.

On the other hand, I do wish he would at least talk to Jon. I can understand ignoring Neal, but not Jon. They had such great creative chemistry together, it would be great to see them work together again. I know...dream on :roll:


Why do you feel he is more justified to ignore Neal than John?


Just my own personal feelings about the break up.. I feel it was Neal who decided, then got Jon to break the news. I always got the feeling that there was more animosity between Neal and SP, and it went on for a long time, way before TBF. A longer history of bad feelings takes anyone time to get over....and maybe it will always be an issue.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 3:44 am
by FamilyMan
Sorry, Neal. But I don't think the offer to have Perry "sing alongside" Arnel is going to get it done.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:17 am
by slucero
IMHO.. there is a higher likelihood of Cain leaving Journey than Perry singing with them..

I could see Perry writing with Cain, after Cain leaves the JBoyz...

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 11:12 am
by Gina3008
slucero wrote:IMHO.. there is a higher likelihood of Cain leaving Journey than Perry singing with them..

I could see Perry writing with Cain, after Cain leaves the JBoyz...

I could definitely see this happening, too. A good scenario.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 12:37 pm
by The_Noble_Cause
FamilyMan wrote:Sorry, Neal. But I don't think the offer to have Perry "sing alongside" Arnel is going to get it done.

And neither will bags of gold laid at Perry's feet, as was tried with TBF. Nothing will get it done.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:48 pm
by Majestic
perryfan61 wrote:
Majestic wrote:
perryfan61 wrote:I can't see SP ever getting back on stage with the band.....even if they were voted into the HOF. I think he's made a promise to himself that he won't sing with them again, and he is sticking to it.

On the other hand, I do wish he would at least talk to Jon. I can understand ignoring Neal, but not Jon. They had such great creative chemistry together, it would be great to see them work together again. I know...dream on :roll:


Why do you feel he is more justified to ignore Neal than John?


Just my own personal feelings about the break up.. I feel it was Neal who decided, then got Jon to break the news. I always got the feeling that there was more animosity between Neal and SP, and it went on for a long time, way before TBF. A longer history of bad feelings takes anyone time to get over....and maybe it will always be an issue.



I don't know. It seems to me that Perry has always said the nicest things about Neal's guitar playing, and how it brought out the best in his own vocal performances, yet I have not, until recent years, heard Neal say similar things about Perry. Could be one of those love hate things between them, I guess.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 9:15 am
by tater1977
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Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2015 10:24 am
by perryfan61
Does that mean he's not allowed to write anything else? Oh oh :? :cry:

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2015 10:11 pm
by Navarro
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Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:12 pm
by annie89509
Sorry, all these "open invitation" statements sound empty to me.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2015 6:38 am
by youkeepmewaiting
annie89509 wrote:Sorry, all these "open invitation" statements sound empty to me.



Well of course it's sounds a bit empty. It's been open invitation for many years that Perry doesn't want to do. I think it will always be an open invitation but NS and JC know there's no point trying to sell it

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:49 am
by annie89509
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
annie89509 wrote:Sorry, all these "open invitation" statements sound empty to me.



Well of course it's sounds a bit empty. It's been open invitation for many years that Perry doesn't want to do. I think it will always be an open invitation but NS and JC know there's no point trying to sell it

I think you're right. Everybody, including the band, points toward the R&RHOF selection (if they ever get in) as the best probability for this to happen. The band will threaten to go on with AP singing the 2 songs at the ceremony. That should get SP off his duff. If it doesn't, nothing will.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:06 am
by Majestic
annie89509 wrote:
youkeepmewaiting wrote:
annie89509 wrote:Sorry, all these "open invitation" statements sound empty to me.



Well of course it's sounds a bit empty. It's been open invitation for many years that Perry doesn't want to do. I think it will always be an open invitation but NS and JC know there's no point trying to sell it

I think you're right. Everybody, including the band, points toward the R&RHOF selection (if they ever get in) as the best probability for this to happen. The band will threaten to go on with AP singing the 2 songs at the ceremony. That should get SP off his duff. If it doesn't, nothing will.


Only problem is, even if they were to be inducted the so called fame hall probably wouldn't include Pineda among the inducted band members. That could test Neal's loyalty and maybe Journey wouldn't play at all. Who cares if they get inducted into the hall of fame, anyway? It is completely void of legitimacy.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:12 am
by FamilyMan
R&RHOF doesn't induct bands with replacement singers/members. The now late Chris Squire acknowledged that it's probably the reason YES didn't get in.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:19 pm
by annie89509
Arnel may very well not be included as an inductee, but (hypothetically speaking, should Journey gets in), he could be invited by the band to sing with them ... no?? They always have guest singers/musicians up there playing with the honorees all the time. Or Journey could be one of the few that choose not to get up and perform. I think, in that scenario, they get some other famous artist(s) who is a big fan sing/play some of their famous songs for the audience.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Sat Jul 04, 2015 5:22 pm
by annie89509
FamilyMan wrote:R&RHOF doesn't induct bands with replacement singers/members. The now late Chris Squire acknowledged that it's probably the reason YES didn't get in.

Really??? And, why Chicago has never ever gotten a nomination?

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:53 am
by JourneyHard
Journey won't ever be included into R&R Hall of Fame because the people voting hate Journey.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:46 am
by Pacfanweb
FamilyMan wrote:R&RHOF doesn't induct bands with replacement singers/members. The now late Chris Squire acknowledged that it's probably the reason YES didn't get in.

They inducted Van Halen with 2 lead singers. Eddie, Alex, Michael, DLR and Sammy Hagar.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 2:43 am
by AR
tater1977 wrote:While it hasn’t happened yet, Cain is eyeing a potential gig in the future to get Perry back on stage with Journey.

“The best shot we’ve got with Steve Perry is the Hall of Fame,” he explained. “If they vote us into the Hall, the rules are that he has to show up and sing two songs. So we force his hand. That’s what I pray for now.”

“It could be great, I look forward to it,” continued Cain. “I adore the man. I thought he was true talent, one of the greatest things in my life was getting to write with him, for real. I look back on those days as fond memories. He knows. He knows where we live. So that’s his call, we put the ball in his court.”


Incorrect. KISS didn't even perform. Most of Van Halen didn't show for their induction.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:49 am
by Art Vandelay
Pacfanweb wrote:
FamilyMan wrote:R&RHOF doesn't induct bands with replacement singers/members. The now late Chris Squire acknowledged that it's probably the reason YES didn't get in.

They inducted Van Halen with 2 lead singers. Eddie, Alex, Michael, DLR and Sammy Hagar.


The Temptations (David Ruffin and Dennis Edwards) and The Eagles (Randy Meisner, Bernie Leadon, Joe Walsh, Timothy B. Schmidt) also come to mind. I'm sure there are a bunch of others.

Re: Cain Talks Ball-Journey

PostPosted: Fri Jul 10, 2015 9:11 pm
by annie89509
Art Vandelay wrote:
Pacfanweb wrote:
FamilyMan wrote:R&RHOF doesn't induct bands with replacement singers/members. The now late Chris Squire acknowledged that it's probably the reason YES didn't get in.

They inducted Van Halen with 2 lead singers. Eddie, Alex, Michael, DLR and Sammy Hagar.


The Temptations (David Ruffin and Dennis Edwards) and The Eagles (Randy Meisner, Bernie Leadon, Joe Walsh, Timothy B. Schmidt) also come to mind. I'm sure there are a bunch of others.

But the difference is VH had huge hits with both Leads. You could say the same with the Temps. And, the Eagles ... not a good comparison. Henley and Frey always been the 2 main guys/singers. The others all took turns and could sing ... so are interchangeable, really.