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Neal talks about Perry's cut

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 7:05 am
by perryfan61

Re: Neal talks about Perry's cut

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:44 am
by Monker
All RealMusicObserver does is live off the controversy. He does this with EVERY band he covers. Journey, Styx, LRB, Boston, EVERYBODY. All he does is cover the current soap opera. If a current one doesn't exist, he'll go back in time and talk about things that happened years, or even decades, ago.

As for what Neal said, he's just being a whiny bitch. You signed the deal to get Steve Perry out. If you don't like it, start a new band and you won't have to worry about paying him, or Ross, or Steve Smith, or Herbie, or whoever. He obviously knows how divorces work, he has plenty of experience with that. This isn't much different...follow the decree or risk being taken to court...and I have no doubt that Steve Perry would take it there.

Re: Neal talks about Perry's cut

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 10:03 am
by JourneyHard
If Neal and Jon were smart, they could have toured without Perry getting anything. They could have just toured under the name "The Don't Stop Believin' Band!" :D

Re: Neal talks about Perry's cut

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:01 am
by Memorex
I didn't listen to it (because I don't like this guy), but Perry playing Journey songs under the name Steve Perry (who was still in Journey at the time) is not the same as going out under the Journey name. Steve had rights to the Journey name, which he paid for and helped build. If Neal wanted to go out and play Journey songs, songs co-written by Steve Perry, under Neal Schon or a different name, so be it. He could have done that and not paid Steve beyond whatever writers get when you perform their songs. So it's comparing apples to oranges. Steve's cut of future Journey was based on his rights to the Journey name, which had value.

And as I understand it, Steve did not get 50%. He got 50% of whatever Jon or Neal got, whichever one was higher. So if Neal and John each got $50,000, as an example, then Steve got $25,000. And then subsequently less each tour/album.

Re: Neal talks about Perry's cut

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:06 am
by The_Noble_Cause
Instead of directing web traffic to this charlatan, I would've simply posted Schon's tweet. In a follow-up tweet, Schon also said something to the effect of "it's just business." Real Music Observer offers no insight whatsoever.

Re: Neal talks about Perry's cut

PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2020 11:09 pm
by Art Vandelay
Memorex wrote:I didn't listen to it (because I don't like this guy), but Perry playing Journey songs under the name Steve Perry (who was still in Journey at the time) is not the same as going out under the Journey name. Steve had rights to the Journey name, which he paid for and helped build. If Neal wanted to go out and play Journey songs, songs co-written by Steve Perry, under Neal Schon or a different name, so be it. He could have done that and not paid Steve beyond whatever writers get when you perform their songs. So it's comparing apples to oranges. Steve's cut of future Journey was based on his rights to the Journey name, which had value.

And as I understand it, Steve did not get 50%. He got 50% of whatever Jon or Neal got, whichever one was higher. So if Neal and John each got $50,000, as an example, then Steve got $25,000. And then subsequently less each tour/album.


I agree with what you say here. Anybody could play anything live at any time, anywhere. Take every bar band in the world as an example. It's how you market your act that determines legal decisions. The name Journey was never part of Steve's marketing for his solo albums or his tour. Yes, he sang a lot of Journey songs on his tour, because at the time he was THE GUY from Journey. That's what everyone wanted to hear. This is why Steve said in the BTM interview, "Don't fracture the name Journey, don't fracture the stone. Go out and do whatever you want to with whomever you want and call it whatever you want to, but leave 'Journey' alone." Legal decisions were made, and they moved on. Neal has a right to be pissed off about the decisions made for Journey payment, but he can't play the card that he didn't make money when Steve toured. Apples and oranges.

Re: Neal talks about Perry's cut

PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2020 12:40 am
by perryfan61
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Instead of directing web traffic to this charlatan, I would've simply posted Schon's tweet. In a follow-up tweet, Schon also said something to the effect of "it's just business." Real Music Observer offers no insight whatsoever.


I tried to find Neal's tweet, but it was no longer on my feed. I usually don't watch this guy either, he likes to act like he has the inside scoop, which he does not. It came up on another post, so I just copied it.

Re: Neal talks about Perry's cut

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 12:47 pm
by Andrew
Monker wrote:All RealMusicObserver does is live off the controversy.


Complete and utter clown.

Re: Neal talks about Perry's cut

PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 2:12 am
by The_Noble_Cause
perryfan61 wrote:
The_Noble_Cause wrote:Instead of directing web traffic to this charlatan, I would've simply posted Schon's tweet. In a follow-up tweet, Schon also said something to the effect of "it's just business." Real Music Observer offers no insight whatsoever.


I tried to find Neal's tweet, but it was no longer on my feed. I usually don't watch this guy either, he likes to act like he has the inside scoop, which he does not. It came up on another post, so I just copied it.


I understand. Did not mean to be overly critical. Just wanted to express how much of a tool TRMO is.