Why didn't things work out with Q Prime?

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Why didn't things work out with Q Prime?

Postby danielb » Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:16 am

Going from Irving Azoff to Q Prime to self management doesn't seem ideal. Does anyone have the inside scoop on what happened?

Why did you leave Azoff management and sign with Q Prime?
It was a long time coming from myself. I had a falling out with old management and just didn’t agree with a lot of things the way they were coming down or the way that things were being treated that I was bringing up. I felt like they made it seem like I was an outcast even though this was a band that I started. Azoff actually said to me, “Why don’t you quit?” at one point. I said, “I’m not quitting. I’ve been here all my life. Why don’t you quit?”

We kind of went at it. Finally, I made the move. I said, “I don’t know what’s going to happen from here, but I feel like it’s time.” I remember that I talked to Peter Mensch over at Q Prime about a year before that, telling him that I really wanted to make a change. He said that contractually we had to get to this point before we could do anything. When we finally got to that point, I called Peter back up. He said, “This is a no-brainer. We’d love to manage you.”

I’m really happy. They understand the guitar. Cliff [Burnstein] is awesome. I’ve only talked to him a few times, but I can tell we’re on the same wavelength. I send him stuff, unfinished and finished, and I’ll crank up the guitar and he goes, “Oh, yeah. That’s it.” Then we’ll get on the phone with Jonathan [Cain], myself and him, and Jonathan will go, “Do you want the softer version?” They’ll go, “No, we don’t want the softer version. We want the heavier version.” I love the guys.


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Re: Why didn't things work out with Q Prime?

Postby Loneman1 » Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:02 am

One of the saddest things for me revolving around this album/era was them spilitting from QPrime. I was beyond psyched for that partnership to grow and really help Journey maximize their promotion, touring, social media, everything since I've been a huge cheerleader for that management team based on the amazing things they've done with Metallica........now that its no longer the case and other things the excitment as kinda waned a bit IMO. I'm still wanting to hear the new album, and glad Deeno is back behind the kit, but it doesn't seem as great as it could have been. Hopefully we will hear what went south on the whole deal someday.
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Re: Why didn't things work out with Q Prime?

Postby ebake02 » Sun Feb 20, 2022 12:12 pm

Who the hell knows what really happened, I can’t picture a company like Q Prime screwing up something so I’m wondering if Neal and Jon made a poorly thought out impulsive decision and dropped them.
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Re: Why didn't things work out with Q Prime?

Postby Eric » Sun Feb 20, 2022 2:01 pm

Obviously I have no idea … but they haven’t had a full fledged tour in nearly 4 years. How would they even be able to afford management?
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Re: Why didn't things work out with Q Prime?

Postby Monker » Mon Feb 21, 2022 2:20 am

Eric wrote:Obviously I have no idea … but they haven’t had a full fledged tour in nearly 4 years. How would they even be able to afford management?


They are paid by a percentage of the contracts the band signs. So, whatever the contract said the band made for Lalapoloosalala, Q prime took a percentage. Same thing for a record contract. If the band got some type of signing bonus, Q prime gets a percent. Whatever the band makes for each sale, Q prime get a percent. They are not paid by the hour or some type of monthly fee...that would be stupid.
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Re: Why didn't things work out with Q Prime?

Postby Eric » Sat Feb 26, 2022 1:37 am

Monker wrote:
Eric wrote:Obviously I have no idea … but they haven’t had a full fledged tour in nearly 4 years. How would they even be able to afford management?


They are paid by a percentage of the contracts the band signs. So, whatever the contract said the band made for Lalapoloosalala, Q prime took a percentage. Same thing for a record contract. If the band got some type of signing bonus, Q prime gets a percent. Whatever the band makes for each sale, Q prime get a percent. They are not paid by the hour or some type of monthly fee...that would be stupid.


Ahh... I didn't realize how that worked. Good info.
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