Neal Schon's Next Solo Album?

[Journey/Survivor]

ANDREW.

Any word on when Neal Schon will release his next solo album

He has at least two solo albums recorded that he has not released yet. A Blues album with John Waite. And an Avantgarde style album.

He's had those recorded for a number of years now. There's no reason to not release one of them by now.

I wonder which he'll release first?

Come on, Neal, release one of them soon

[The_Noble_Cause]

Did the Waite project ever get off the ground? I swear he also did new material as Journey Through Time. I remember reading about it or seeing behind the scenes photos. Never released.

[Journey/Survivor]

Did the Waite project ever get off the ground? I swear he also did new material as Journey Through Time. I remember reading about it or seeing behind the scenes photos. Never released.

I'm fairly sure that it was recorded? I'm not 100% certain though?

I remember that before Schon released his Universe CD that he said that he had 3 solo albums recorded but unreleased.

Hopefully Andrew can find out for certain.

[Monker]

If you watch the John Waite documentary that I posted a while back, you will see that Neal's name was never mentioned. Not in the context of Journey or touring with Journey. Not in the context of Bad English, and not in the context of new music. The documentary was recorded during the 2020 - 2021 timeframe, through COVID and just as it was breaking down. I believe that is long after Neal mentioned working with John Waite.

He tells one story about why one of the members of the Babys was fired...and how they agreed to pay him as a member of the band...but he never got paid because the band never made any money. They still owed the label money when they broke up. Other than that, John never said anything negative about anybody he worked with. At one point he was asked who he hated working with and he refused to answer. That combined with how Bad English was glossed over, and how he praised Jonathan, I feel he does not like working with Neal and I doubt the project ever went anywhere, if it was ever a real thing.

Over the past few years Waite released a series of acoustic albums,. Some were new songs and many were rerecording's from his past albums. He talked about those, but nothing about working with Neal.

[George_g888]

I remember sometime during the 2019-2020 timeframe Neal responded to someone on Twitter saying how Waite stopped returning his calls after they were initially talking about collaborating again. I think the project never got off the ground.

[Journey/Survivor]

Maybe I'm wrong about the Blues album having been recorded? But I know for a fact that after Schon had recorded his Universe CD but well before having released it that he said that he had 3 solo albums recorded but unreleased. Universe was one of the 3, and he has of course released it since that time. But there should be at least two other solo albums recorded that he hasn't released yet.

One of them is supposed to be an Avantgarde style album by Schon's description of it.

I've been hoping that Schon would release a traditional Blues album. His Piranha Blues album was more of a Blues-Rock album.
I'd love it if he'd release a Blues album that is a bit more in the traditional Blues style of guys like BB King, Albert King, Freddie King and Buddy Guy.

I'd love for him to record it playing mostly Fender Strats as I think that they have a far better Blues sound than Gibson's and PRS' in general. Maybe a Fender Twin amp, and hopefully very little distortion or other effects! Schon did a great job on Walks Like A Lady at playing in the style/sound that I'd like. But when he plays more of that Cream, Beck, Hendrix style of Blues Rock he some times plays faster and flashier than what I'd hope that he would do on a new Blues album.

He could probably get Paul Rodgers to record that style of album with him. Jimi Jamison would have been awesome for a project like that with Schon.

[NoMoreTails]

Maybe I'm wrong about the Blues album having been recorded? But I know for a fact that after Schon had recorded his Universe CD but well before having released it that he said that he had 3 solo albums recorded but unreleased. Universe was one of the 3, and he has of course released it since that time. But there should be at least two other solo albums recorded that he hasn't released yet.

One of them is supposed to be an Avantgarde style album by Schon's description of it.

I've been hoping that Schon would release a traditional Blues album. His Piranha Blues album was more of a Blue-Rock album.
I'd love it if he'd release a Blues album that is a bit more in the traditional Blues style of guys like BB King, Albert King, Freddie King and Buddy Guy.

I'd love for him to record it playing mostly Fender Strats as I think that they have a far better Blues sound than Gibson's and PRS' in general. Maybe a Fender Twin amp, and hopefully very little distortion or other effects! Schon did a great job on Walks Like A Lady at playing in the style/sound that I'd like. But when he plays more of that Cream, Beck, Hendrix style of Blues Rock he some times plays faster and flashier than what I'd hope that he would do on a new Blues album.

He could probably get Paul Rodgers to record that style of album with him. Jimi Jamison would have been awesome for a project like that with Schon.

I don't think Neal and Waite got beyond talking about it, if even that. But I've never seen anything negative from Waite and about Neal, although he has expressed or at least hinted at his distaste for Cain on more than one occasion. I agree with your thoughts on a true blues album and I don't think Waite is the right kind of singer for that. In fact, outside of the type of performance he gave on his live cover of Whole Lotta Love, I'd never have imagined that Neal would be interested in him singing on a blues rock album. I think Neal may have just brought up Waite to pick at Cain.

Where Neal missed the boat was in not doing a full album with Beth Hart. I wonder if Neal and Beth's "I Wanna Know You" was what inspired Joe Bonamassa to go on to record three albums with her.

[Andrew]

Did the Waite project ever get off the ground? I swear he also did new material as Journey Through Time. I remember reading about it or seeing behind the scenes photos. Never released.

No it didn’t.

[Journey/Survivor]

[I don't think Neal and Waite got beyond talking about it, if even that. But I've never seen anything negative from Waite and about Neal, although he has expressed or at least hinted at his distaste for Cain on more than one occasion. I agree with your thoughts on a true blues album and I don't think Waite is the right kind of singer for that. In fact, outside of the type of performance he gave on his live cover of Whole Lotta Love, I'd never have imagined that Neal would be interested in him singing on a blues rock album. I think Neal may have just brought up Waite to pick at Cain.

Where Neal missed the boat was in not doing a full album with Beth Hart. I wonder if Neal and Beth's "I Wanna Know You" was what inspired Joe Bonamassa to go on to record three albums with her.

Waite was heavily influenced by Paul Rodgers and The Small Faces and a lot of R&B bands. So I think that he could do well on a Blues album. But Jimi Jamison probably could have done a better job than Waite?

I just discovered the other day that Jimmy Barnes and Joe Bonamassa remade the Jimmy Barnes Blues song "Too Much Ain't Enough Love" that Neal Schon had originally played on. Schon was awesome on that song.

Anyway, NEAL, if you read this, please think about recording a Blues album in the style that I described above!

[Onestepper]

[I don't think Neal and Waite got beyond talking about it, if even that. But I've never seen anything negative from Waite and about Neal, although he has expressed or at least hinted at his distaste for Cain on more than one occasion. I agree with your thoughts on a true blues album and I don't think Waite is the right kind of singer for that. In fact, outside of the type of performance he gave on his live cover of Whole Lotta Love, I'd never have imagined that Neal would be interested in him singing on a blues rock album. I think Neal may have just brought up Waite to pick at Cain.

Where Neal missed the boat was in not doing a full album with Beth Hart. I wonder if Neal and Beth's "I Wanna Know You" was what inspired Joe Bonamassa to go on to record three albums with her.

Waite was heavily influenced by Paul Rodgers and The Small Faces and a lot of R&B bands. So I think that he could do well on a Blues album. But Jimi Jamison probably could have done a better job than Waite?

I just discovered the other day that Jimmy Barnes and Joe Bonamassa remade the Jimmy Barnes Blues song "Too Much Ain't Enough Love" that Neal Schon had originally played on. Schon was awesome on that song.

Anyway, NEAL, if you read this, please think about recording a Blues album in the style that I described above!

Funny you mention Jimmy Barnes, his song "I'm still on your side" popped up in my Spotify random playlist just yesterday. What a talent.

[Arkansas]

Where Neal missed the boat was in not doing a full album with Beth Hart. I wonder if Neal and Beth's "I Wanna Know You" was what inspired Joe Bonamassa to go on to record three albums with her.

I just discovered the other day that Jimmy Barnes and Joe Bonamassa remade the Jimmy Barnes Blues song "Too Much Ain't Enough Love" that Neal Schon had originally played on. Schon was awesome on that song.

Funny you mention Jimmy Barnes, his song "I'm still on your side" popped up in my Spotify random playlist just yesterday. What a talent.

The Beth Hart connection was probably thru Kevin Shirley.

This EPK and other vids were going around for awhile.
https://www.goforbirdhouse.co.uk/work-bts-jimmybarnes


later~

[NoMoreTails]

Where Neal missed the boat was in not doing a full album with Beth Hart. I wonder if Neal and Beth's "I Wanna Know You" was what inspired Joe Bonamassa to go on to record three albums with her.

The Beth Hart connection was probably thru Kevin Shirley.

This EPK and other vids were going around for awhile.
https://www.goforbirdhouse.co.uk/work-bts-jimmybarnes


later

Shirley didn't produce Bonamassa until 2006 and didn't produce Hart until the 2011 album with Bonamassa. Neal's song with her was released in 2005. Although its certainly possible that Shirley knew her and suggested it.

[Eric]

Other than that, John never said anything negative about anybody he worked with. At one point he was asked who he hated working with and he refused to answer. That combined with how Bad English was glossed over, and how he praised Jonathan, I feel he does not like working with Neal and I doubt the project ever went anywhere, if it was ever a real thing.

"Well, it was just me and Jonathan Cain just couldn’t get on," says Waite. "I mean honestly, even when Journey was successful, he wasn’t that friendly. He was always leaving early and coming late. He was a very difficult person to get on with. And in the end, I just said fuck it. We were in the studio and it was just awful. I mean it was just like pulling teeth. We haven’t written any songs that worked. We’d gone back in too soon. And the producer was just not the right man. And the band just fell apart. I just got up and left. I mean I really hung in there for as long as I could. I was working 18 hours a day on songs and singing. And I come in the studio and it would be like stony silence. There’s just like this political bullshit. So, I just turned around and left."

https://bravewords.com/news/john-waite- ... t-friendly

[Eric]

I feel he does not like working with Neal and I doubt the project ever went anywhere, if it was ever a real thing.

Over the past few years Waite released a series of acoustic albums,. Some were new songs and many were rerecording's from his past albums. He talked about those, but nothing about working with Neal.

"Speaking of the blues, there’s been recent talk of a blues album with Neal Schon, what’s the latest?

I think Neal is at the top of his game and apparently I feel like I am too. It’s a natural step for us to get together and do something. I love Neal. I’ve always had a great time with him. If we ever had disagreements they lasted for about 30 seconds and then we’d both start laughing. He’s a great guy. It’s just being able to find the time to do it. We’ve been exchanging emails for the past five months and we’re getting closer to something. It’s definitely on the drawing board and it could be in the future. But like I said, things change in a moment and you never know what’s gonna happen next. I have this new Wooden Heart: Acoustic Anthology album coming out and I have a reconfigured version of BEST coming out too and they’re both going into stores on my own label imprint"

http://www.johnwaiteworldwide.com/news/ ... art-vol-2/

[Eric]

If you watch the John Waite documentary that I posted a while back, you will see that Neal's name was never mentioned. Not in the context of Journey or touring with Journey. Not in the context of Bad English, and not in the context of new music. The documentary was recorded during the 2020 - 2021 timeframe, through COVID and just as it was breaking down. I believe that is long after Neal mentioned working with John Waite.

He tells one story about why one of the members of the Babys was fired...and how they agreed to pay him as a member of the band...but he never got paid because the band never made any money. They still owed the label money when they broke up. Other than that, John never said anything negative about anybody he worked with. At one point he was asked who he hated working with and he refused to answer. That combined with how Bad English was glossed over, and how he praised Jonathan, I feel he does not like working with Neal and I doubt the project ever went anywhere, if it was ever a real thing.

Over the past few years Waite released a series of acoustic albums,. Some were new songs and many were rerecording's from his past albums. He talked about those, but nothing about working with Neal.

Do you just stay up at night thinking of this bullshit?

[Journey/Survivor]

Everything that I had ever heard about Schon and Waite was that they got along well. Except for that crap where Waite was whipping out tracks that Schon and possibly other Bad English members had recorded while they were recording the Backlash album.


Like I already said, I think that Waite could do a great job on a Blues album. Schon needs to get around to recording the album already.

[Monker]

If you watch the John Waite documentary that I posted a while back, you will see that Neal's name was never mentioned. Not in the context of Journey or touring with Journey. Not in the context of Bad English, and not in the context of new music. The documentary was recorded during the 2020 - 2021 timeframe, through COVID and just as it was breaking down. I believe that is long after Neal mentioned working with John Waite.

He tells one story about why one of the members of the Babys was fired...and how they agreed to pay him as a member of the band...but he never got paid because the band never made any money. They still owed the label money when they broke up. Other than that, John never said anything negative about anybody he worked with. At one point he was asked who he hated working with and he refused to answer. That combined with how Bad English was glossed over, and how he praised Jonathan, I feel he does not like working with Neal and I doubt the project ever went anywhere, if it was ever a real thing.

Over the past few years Waite released a series of acoustic albums,. Some were new songs and many were rerecording's from his past albums. He talked about those, but nothing about working with Neal.

Do you just stay up at night thinking of this bullshit?

I made up nothing. Posting an interview from 5yrs ago doesn't change a documentary that has just been released.

Again, Neal Schon's name was not mentioned in ANY way. He talks about meeting Allison Kraus and rerecording "Missing You" more than BE and recording two albums with Neal Schon. He talks about touring with Ringo and does not even mention touring with BE and Neal Schon. He says Jonathan came in and gave new life to the Babys and when he joined another band ("Journey" was never said by Waite) was when he gave up on the band. Waite goes on about how he avoids talking shit about anybody. A lesson that Neal Schon, and you, should learn.

[Journey/Survivor]

If Schon does get around to recording a traditional Blues album, my top choices for the lead vocalist at this time would be Paul Rodgers, John Waite, Joe Lynn Turner and Steve Augeri. I don't know if that bridge has been completely burned or not between Schon and Augeri?

Does anyone know how Lou Gramm is sounding these days? In his prime he would have been awesome for a Blues album!

[Journey/Survivor]

If you watch the John Waite documentary that I posted a while back, you will see that Neal's name was never mentioned. Not in the context of Journey or touring with Journey. Not in the context of Bad English, and not in the context of new music. The documentary was recorded during the 2020 - 2021 timeframe, through COVID and just as it was breaking down. I believe that is long after Neal mentioned working with John Waite.

He tells one story about why one of the members of the Babys was fired...and how they agreed to pay him as a member of the band...but he never got paid because the band never made any money. They still owed the label money when they broke up. Other than that, John never said anything negative about anybody he worked with. At one point he was asked who he hated working with and he refused to answer. That combined with how Bad English was glossed over, and how he praised Jonathan, I feel he does not like working with Neal and I doubt the project ever went anywhere, if it was ever a real thing.

Over the past few years Waite released a series of acoustic albums,. Some were new songs and many were rerecording's from his past albums. He talked about those, but nothing about working with Neal.

Do you just stay up at night thinking of this bullshit?

I made up nothing. Posting an interview from 5yrs ago doesn't change a documentary that has just been released.

Again, Neal Schon's name was not mentioned in ANY way. He talks about meeting Allison Kraus and rerecording "Missing You" more than BE and recording two albums with Neal Schon. He talks about touring with Ringo and does not even mention touring with BE and Neal Schon. He says Jonathan came in and gave new life to the Babys and when he joined another band ("Journey" was never said by Waite) was when he gave up on the band. Waite goes on about how he avoids talking shit about anybody. A lesson that Neal Schon, and you, should learn.

It has always been extremely obvious that John Waite resents and is jealous of Journey.
During the Bad English days he used to refuse to discuss Journey in any interviews. There was at least one occasion when someone interviewing the members of Bad English brought up Journey during the interview, and Waite grabbed the tape recorder and erased that question.

Waite, while being an excellent singer and songwriter, is very childish and insecure. Especially when it comes to Journey. He has taken shots at them many times.