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Why didn't they play Troubled Child?

PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2025 11:51 am
by Journey/Survivor
Does anyone know why Journey didn't play Troubled Child when they performed the Escape and Frontiers albums live in Japan in 2017?

I find that very disappointing!

Cain's keyboard solo was way too short as well.

Re: Why didn't they play Troubled Child?

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2025 2:53 am
by GrandIllusionist725
As far as I know, and seeing the video to it, it was off key and a bad take when they performed it, which is why they left it off.

Re: Why didn't they play Troubled Child?

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2025 6:12 am
by Loneman1
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:As far as I know, and seeing the video to it, it was off key and a bad take when they performed it, which is why they left it off.


I don't know how they screwed it up so bad on the soundboard leak bootleg. Its been a minute since I listened to it, but it doesn't seem like that hard of a song to pull off live other than that long Perry note right before the chorus but IIRC it seemed like Arnel didn't know where to come in at times even during other parts. A few more rehearsals and they should have had it in the bag, or at least a passable version. The rest of the band was the Escape/Frontiers lineup so instrumentally it should have been perfect in a perfect world. Its a shame since I love that song and always wanted to hear it live.

Re: Why didn't they play Troubled Child?

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2025 10:47 am
by Journey/Survivor
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:As far as I know, and seeing the video to it, it was off key and a bad take when they performed it, which is why they left it off.


Thanks! I wasn't aware of that.

Re: Why didn't they play Troubled Child?

PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2025 10:48 am
by Journey/Survivor
Loneman1 wrote:
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:As far as I know, and seeing the video to it, it was off key and a bad take when they performed it, which is why they left it off.


I don't know how they screwed it up so bad on the soundboard leak bootleg. Its been a minute since I listened to it, but it doesn't seem like that hard of a song to pull off live other than that long Perry note right before the chorus but IIRC it seemed like Arnel didn't know where to come in at times even during other parts. A few more rehearsals and they should have had it in the bag, or at least a passable version. The rest of the band was the Escape/Frontiers lineup so instrumentally it should have been perfect in a perfect world. Its a shame since I love that song and always wanted to hear it live.


Are you aware of how to find a bootleg recording of TC from that show?

Re: Why didn't they play Troubled Child?

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2025 4:48 am
by GrandIllusionist725

Re: Why didn't they play Troubled Child?

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2025 5:16 am
by Loneman1
Journey/Survivor wrote:
Loneman1 wrote:
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:As far as I know, and seeing the video to it, it was off key and a bad take when they performed it, which is why they left it off.


I don't know how they screwed it up so bad on the soundboard leak bootleg. Its been a minute since I listened to it, but it doesn't seem like that hard of a song to pull off live other than that long Perry note right before the chorus but IIRC it seemed like Arnel didn't know where to come in at times even during other parts. A few more rehearsals and they should have had it in the bag, or at least a passable version. The rest of the band was the Escape/Frontiers lineup so instrumentally it should have been perfect in a perfect world. Its a shame since I love that song and always wanted to hear it live.


Are you aware of how to find a bootleg recording of TC from that show?


Pretty sure I got it off of the guitars101 forum years ago. I'm trying to find it on my hard drives and am coming up short, I must have labeled it something weird. If I find it I'll let ya know! GrandIllusionist's post is pretty much the same thing with a little more echo IIRC.

Re: Why didn't they play Troubled Child?

PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2025 11:20 am
by Journey/Survivor
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:Hope this helps

https://youtu.be/baFllE1pV3k?si=-Hi4vEncSpN6jLdt


Thank you!

After I made my initial post about how to find it, I looked on YouTube myself and found it.

Re: Why didn't they play Troubled Child?

PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2025 6:20 am
by Loneman1
Journey/Survivor wrote:
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:Hope this helps

https://youtu.be/baFllE1pV3k?si=-Hi4vEncSpN6jLdt


Thank you!

After I made my initial post about how to find it, I looked on YouTube myself and found it.


Glad ya found it! I sent you a message on here about it if you're still interested in the soundboard version.

Re: Why didn't they play Troubled Child?

PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2025 10:03 am
by FishinMagician
Loneman1 wrote:
Journey/Survivor wrote:
GrandIllusionist725 wrote:Hope this helps

https://youtu.be/baFllE1pV3k?si=-Hi4vEncSpN6jLdt


Thank you!

After I made my initial post about how to find it, I looked on YouTube myself and found it.


Glad ya found it! I sent you a message on here about it if you're still interested in the soundboard version.

Hey can you send it my way?