RE: Hip Replacement

[TRAGChick]

Hey, All....

Hope you-all are well.

A while ago, I had mentioned that my Dance Instructor had hip-replacement surgery, and she was able to teach TWO(!!) classes in a row:
Step & Grooveology.

Well, here's the proof ~ SO HAPPY she moved over to my new Dance Studio - Studio 44 of Westport:D

I'm going to this class tomorrow night........LOVE her routines!!
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1884954408009

[scarab]

If performed well, hip replacement heals very fast.
I know a girl that had it done in her teens, she was running 8 weeks later.

I am sure Steve is doing well, and I do agree, surgery is not a "group" decision.
Don't blame him at all for not getting the surgery ASAP, explore all options til they cut you open.

Hoping the vocal surgery rumor isnt true. Need to hear him sing again, will never forget being in the front row in 1994 in MPLS at the Northrup.
A Magical Experience.

[steveo777]

If performed well, hip replacement heals very fast.
I know a girl that had it done in her teens, she was running 8 weeks later.

I am sure Steve is doing well, and I do agree, surgery is not a "group" decision.
Don't blame him at all for not getting the surgery ASAP, explore all options til they cut you open.

Hoping the vocal surgery rumor isnt true. Need to hear him sing again, will never forget being in the front row in 1994 in MPLS at the Northrup.
A Magical Experience.

But two years for a band that needs / wants to work finally becomes a group decision. That's just business. Was the band supposed to just
sit there with their thumbs up their asses while waiting for eternity for Steve to NOT return? That's what they would have gotten.

[whirlwind]

If performed well, hip replacement heals very fast.
I know a girl that had it done in her teens, she was running 8 weeks later.

I am sure Steve is doing well, and I do agree, surgery is not a "group" decision.
Don't blame him at all for not getting the surgery ASAP, explore all options til they cut you open.

Hoping the vocal surgery rumor isnt true. Need to hear him sing again, will never forget being in the front row in 1994 in MPLS at the Northrup.
A Magical Experience.

But two years for a band that needs / wants to work finally becomes a group decision. That's just business. Was the band supposed to just
sit there with their thumbs up their asses while waiting for eternity for Steve to NOT return? That's what they would have gotten.

Their loss, obviously.

[Gideon]

Their loss, obviously.

Multiple highly successful tours w/o Perry vs. no tours w/ Perry

Now, I'm neither an economist nor a mathematician, but waiting for Perry didn't seem like the financially wise decision.

I guess you and I define loss differently.

[Don]

Their loss, obviously.

Multiple highly successful tours w/o Perry vs. no tours w/ Perry

Now, I'm neither an economist nor a mathematician, but waiting for Perry didn't seem like the financially wise decision.

I guess you and I define loss differently.

Letting him have cuts from tour proceeds for 8 years wasn't a wise decision either, along with not buying him out while the value of the catalog was at an all time low in the late 90s, alleviating themselves the hassle of still needing his say so on a lot of Columbia era material despite his not being in the band for over a decade.
A lot of poor decisions all around.

[Gideon]

Their loss, obviously.

Multiple highly successful tours w/o Perry vs. no tours w/ Perry

Now, I'm neither an economist nor a mathematician, but waiting for Perry didn't seem like the financially wise decision.

I guess you and I define loss differently.

Letting him have cuts from tour proceeds for 8 years wasn't a wise decision either, along with not buying him out while the value of the catalog was at an all time low in the late 90s, alleviating themselves the hassle of still needing his say so on a lot of Columbia era material despite his not being in the band for over a decade.
A lot of poor decisions all around.

Neal and co. definitely aren't financial experts, per Herbie. But the idea that it would have been more creatively or financially lucrative to wait for Perry is the product of masturbation fantasy fuel and has zero weight in the real world.

[Don]

Their loss, obviously.

Multiple highly successful tours w/o Perry vs. no tours w/ Perry

Now, I'm neither an economist nor a mathematician, but waiting for Perry didn't seem like the financially wise decision.

I guess you and I define loss differently.

Letting him have cuts from tour proceeds for 8 years wasn't a wise decision either, along with not buying him out while the value of the catalog was at an all time low in the late 90s, alleviating themselves the hassle of still needing his say so on a lot of Columbia era material despite his not being in the band for over a decade.
A lot of poor decisions all around.

Neal and co. definitely aren't financial experts, per Herbie. But the idea that it would have been more creatively or financially lucrative to wait for Perry is the product of masturbation fantasy fuel and has zero weight in the real world.

They should have pulled a Gilmour and just moved on. Let Perry sue them, the dude doesn't have no where near the clout Roger Waters had with Floyd and he was told to get stuffed by the Judge. Journey wasn't touring at that time, a few months in the court room wouldn't have hurt them.

Life is full of risks and the upside of this would have been well worth the gamble for Neal.

[Saint John]

They should have pulled a Gilmour and just moved on. Let Perry sue them, the dude doesn't have no where near the clout Roger Waters had with Floyd and he was told to get stuffed by the Judge. Journey wasn't touring at that time, a few months in the court room wouldn't have hurt them.

Life is full of risks and the upside of this would have been well worth the gamble for Neal.

All bullshit aside, when you look at the facts and realize the loyalty they showed toward Perry, it's really no wonder that he can't show his face or care to be around them. He's simply ashamed. They waited for a decade for him to tour, and he did ... with others. They waited 2 years for him to make a decision on hip surgery. Then they paid him to sit at home. That's loyalty (and, arguably, stupidity) beyond comparison. That guy was never wronged by anyone in Journey. Not ever. But he sure wronged them ... over and over.

[steveo777]

They should have pulled a Gilmour and just moved on. Let Perry sue them, the dude doesn't have no where near the clout Roger Waters had with Floyd and he was told to get stuffed by the Judge. Journey wasn't touring at that time, a few months in the court room wouldn't have hurt them.

Life is full of risks and the upside of this would have been well worth the gamble for Neal.

All bullshit aside, when you look at the facts and realize the loyalty they showed toward Perry, it's really no wonder that he can't show his face or care to be around them. He's simply ashamed. They waited for a decade for him to tour, and he did ... with others. They waited 2 years for him to make a decision on hip surgery. Then they paid him to sit at home. That's loyalty (and, arguably, stupidity) beyond comparison. That guy was never wronged by anyone in Journey. Not ever. But he sure wronged them ... over and over.

That will never add up for many and they don't want to see that. Reality is a motherfucker. Facts, however, can never be denied.

[annie89509]

Blab..Blab...Blab...
"Facts" according to the resident bullshitters...

[Gideon]

Blab..Blab...Blab...
"Facts" according to the resident bullshitters...

I thought it would be hard to point fingers while wearing a straightjacket. You must be pretty flexible.

[Greg]

Their loss, obviously.

Multiple highly successful tours w/o Perry vs. no tours w/ Perry

Now, I'm neither an economist nor a mathematician, but waiting for Perry didn't seem like the financially wise decision.

I guess you and I define loss differently.

Letting him have cuts from tour proceeds for 8 years wasn't a wise decision either, along with not buying him out while the value of the catalog was at an all time low in the late 90s, alleviating themselves the hassle of still needing his say so on a lot of Columbia era material despite his not being in the band for over a decade.
A lot of poor decisions all around.

Neal and co. definitely aren't financial experts, per Herbie. But the idea that it would have been more creatively or financially lucrative to wait for Perry is the product of masturbation fantasy fuel and has zero weight in the real world.

Did you just say you masturbate to Steve Perry?

[Gideon]

Did you just say you masturbate to Steve Perry?

No, because I don't think it would have been the better decision to wait for Perry.

[Greg]

Did you just say you masturbate to Steve Perry?

No, because I don't think it would have been the better decision to wait for Perry.

Such a tease...LOL!