Rediscovering FTLOSM

[JohnH]

I bought this several years after it came out, around 1998. I have always loved the first two songs but the rest of it I didn't quite get. I just found it again in a box of CD's that I bought then rejected. I am listening to this with 12 more years of experience as a working musician and now I'm really loving it!!!! Always dug Paul Taylor's writing and keyboard playing in Winger and his layered keyboard sounds. And wow...I Love Lincoln Brewster's soulful playing, Moyes Lucas is a fantastic drummer, Mike Porcaro, the bass player of Toto is on three songs...Perry's voice is just exquisite, and as a whole I'm really now loving this album. I know I've read some dissing of this here recently...but I'm now digging this album. I could use a remastering though as it's sonic deficiencies really date it. (I think my ears are so sensitive, I almost always only listen to newer CD's or remastered ones). I've been going nuts on the harmonies of You Better Wait., such good memories of the 90s driving around listening to that song on the radio. The intro vocals and then when the band kicks in with Lincoln's lead right after are everything I love about this genre of rock. This and the best of Trial By Fire would have been a great Journey album, but for now I am appreciating FTLOSM as the excellent record it is. Man I miss Perry!

[journey361]

The one mistake i see that i believe would have raised that project to all-star status is the flow of it along with writing or for a better way to explain what im getting at, make it a Rock album. Leave all the unreal vocals and instramentals alone. It's Perry being unearthly Perry, but it was a somber way of recording with what i just said.

[JohnH]

Yeah I think that is what stopped me liking it the first time is it didn't rock enough. Now that I'm older though I get it.

[Jana]

I just don't love this album on the whole. It is too much of the same ol some ol song after song, heartache, depressed sounding. But I do love many songs off of here, Tuesday Heartache, Donna Please, Missing You, many, many more, that showcase Steve's voice and show why he is the master at phrasing and delivery.

[annie89509]

I bought this several years after it came out, around 1998. I have always loved the first two songs but the rest of it I didn't quite get. I just found it again in a box of CD's that I bought then rejected. I am listening to this with 12 more years of experience as a working musician and now I'm really loving it!!!! Always dug Paul Taylor's writing and keyboard playing in Winger and his layered keyboard sounds. And wow...I Love Lincoln Brewster's soulful playing, Moyes Lucas is a fantastic drummer, Mike Porcaro, the bass player of Toto is on three songs...Perry's voice is just exquisite, and as a whole I'm really now loving this album. I know I've read some dissing of this here recently...but I'm now digging this album. I could use a remastering though as it's sonic deficiencies really date it. (I think my ears are so sensitive, I almost always only listen to newer CD's or remastered ones). I've been going nuts on the harmonies of You Better Wait., such good memories of the 90s driving around listening to that song on the radio. The intro vocals and then when the band kicks in with Lincoln's lead right after are everything I love about this genre of rock. This and the best of Trial By Fire would have been a great Journey album, but for now I am appreciating FTLOSM as the excellent record it is. Man I miss Perry!

But this album was re-mastered, as well as ST (and the GH+5 renamed as The Best of Steve Perry). All Journey's and SP's solo were re-mastered and re-packaged in 2005(?). Sonically, the re-mastered versions really do sound so much better than the original releases. I don't know what it is...but it's like SP is singing right into your ear.

[steveo777]

I bought this several years after it came out, around 1998. I have always loved the first two songs but the rest of it I didn't quite get. I just found it again in a box of CD's that I bought then rejected. I am listening to this with 12 more years of experience as a working musician and now I'm really loving it!!!! Always dug Paul Taylor's writing and keyboard playing in Winger and his layered keyboard sounds. And wow...I Love Lincoln Brewster's soulful playing, Moyes Lucas is a fantastic drummer, Mike Porcaro, the bass player of Toto is on three songs...Perry's voice is just exquisite, and as a whole I'm really now loving this album. I know I've read some dissing of this here recently...but I'm now digging this album. I could use a remastering though as it's sonic deficiencies really date it. (I think my ears are so sensitive, I almost always only listen to newer CD's or remastered ones). I've been going nuts on the harmonies of You Better Wait., such good memories of the 90s driving around listening to that song on the radio. The intro vocals and then when the band kicks in with Lincoln's lead right after are everything I love about this genre of rock. This and the best of Trial By Fire would have been a great Journey album, but for now I am appreciating FTLOSM as the excellent record it is. Man I miss Perry!

But this album was re-mastered, as well as ST (and the GH+5 renamed as The Best of Steve Perry). All Journey's and SP's solo were re-mastered and re-packaged in 2005(?). Sonically, the re-mastered versions really do sound so much better than the original releases. I don't know what it is...but it's like SP is singing right into your ear.

Oh yuck! LOL
I'm a guy, so that sounds funny to me.

[lindalut]

He could sing into my ear anytime

[JohnH]

[quote"]But this album was re-mastered, as well as ST (and the GH+5 renamed as The Best of Steve Perry). All Journey's and SP's solo were re-mastered and re-packaged in 2005(?). Sonically, the re-mastered versions really do sound so much better than the original releases. I don't know what it is...but it's like SP is singing right into your ear.

Ok that's right I remember now. It's funny when I looked on Amazon I didn't see the new version. I will definitely go get that! I bought this used for around 8 bucks so I don't mind splurging on a cleaned up version!

[Babyblue]

He could sing into my ear anytime

And mine too. Love that cd.If he comes out with new music fine ...if not that is fine as well.I will not stop being a fan of his.Stevie go on facebook please

[Tomulator]

As long as he doesn't do anything "else" in your ears!

[annie89509]

Haha..., didn't know what I was saying . I only meant the remastered versions brought out SP's vocals so much more vividly as if his voice "jumps" out of the speakers. No need to put earphones on to isolate the vocals...every nuisance is heard.

I admit, I always thought FTLOSM is kind of bland. But, after getting the re-mastered last year, these songs are getting more interesting to me. Maybe, like JohnH said, as the years go by, the realization that this might be the last full album we'll ever have from SP, brings on a new appreciation.

[Saint John]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

[steveo777]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

You have to admit there are a couple good songs on it. He sounded way better on the album than live on the tour.

[ChildInTime]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

Oh, Saint John, where would we be without your beautiful prose.


For me, FTLOSM is about 50-50. As in, 50% of it I can do without, and 50% is just fine. To make it actually awesome, I would dump about half the ballads on there, mix up the track listing so no ballads are lumped together one after another, and have some more actual rocking numbers. A song can be sad/melancholy and still rock/be uptempo.

[Jubilee]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

You have to admit there are a couple good songs on it. He sounded way better on the album than live on the tour.

I always thought quite the opposite. The album was a lifeless snooze-fest. I didn't get to see a live performance, but some of the boots (particularly NYC) are splendid.

[madsplash]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

Call me when Arnel put's out a solo album that goes gold. Maybe he could put out a record of the covers he sings when he's not with Journey. That would sell well, I'm sure.

FTLOSM came out right at the height of the "grunge" shit. Selling almost a million albums of melodic rock/pop at that time was a hell of an achievement.

[WykkedSensation]

FTLOSM is/was a great release.
Too many ballads yeah, but the songs were ALL good.
The re mastered version is a cracker, gives the songs a whole new life.

[Saint John]

FTLOSM came out right at the height of the "grunge" shit. Selling almost a million albums of melodic rock/pop at that time was a hell of an achievement.

Grunge was all but dead when Curt Cobain shot himself in April of 1994. Grunge had a 3 year run ... 1991, 1992 and 1993. By 1994 Cobain was dead, Pearl Jam cancelled their summer tour (not playing in the U.S. for 3 years) and Alice In Chains was on fumes (finally breaking up in 1996). Bands like Oasis became huge in 1994 because their lyrics were uplifting and people were tired of 3 years of the same depressing shit. FTLOSM was melodic grunge.

[steveo777]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

Call me when Arnel put's out a solo album that goes gold. Maybe he could put out a record of the covers he sings when he's not with Journey. That would sell well, I'm sure.

FTLOSM came out right at the height of the "grunge" shit. Selling almost a million albums of melodic rock/pop at that time was a hell of an achievement.

Grunge is a lame excuse. If I remember correctly, even fucking Michael Bolton had an album from 1994 go platinum.

[Jana]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

Call me when Arnel put's out a solo album that goes gold. Maybe he could put out a record of the covers he sings when he's not with Journey. That would sell well, I'm sure.

FTLOSM came out right at the height of the "grunge" shit. Selling almost a million albums of melodic rock/pop at that time was a hell of an achievement.

Grunge is a lame excuse. If I remember correctly, even fucking Michael Bolton had an album from 1994 go platinum.

that time period had a lot of great R&B doing great.

Why drag Arnel into this? He isn't in Perry's league when comparing solo work and writing music solo. But what in the world does that have to do with just not loving FTLOSM? Nobody who bought it set out to not love it. It's just the way it is for some of us. Too depressing and same ol same ol all the way through, and many loons have stated such, who adore Perry. But some really beautiful and amazing songs on there with great vocals by Perry that I love, for sure.

[Michigan Girl]

Why drag Arnel into this? He isn't in Perry's league when comparing solo work and writing music solo. .

Love FTLOSM and this ^^^ is right!!

[steveo777]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

Call me when Arnel put's out a solo album that goes gold. Maybe he could put out a record of the covers he sings when he's not with Journey. That would sell well, I'm sure.

FTLOSM came out right at the height of the "grunge" shit. Selling almost a million albums of melodic rock/pop at that time was a hell of an achievement.

Grunge is a lame excuse. If I remember correctly, even fucking Michael Bolton had an album from 1994 go platinum.

that time period had a lot of great R&B doing great.

Why drag Arnel into this? He isn't in Perry's league when comparing solo work and writing music solo. But what in the world does that have to do with just not loving FTLOSM? Nobody who bought it set out to not love it. It's just the way it is for some of us. Too depressing and same ol same ol all the way through, and many loons have stated such, who adore Perry. But some really beautiful and amazing songs on there with great vocals by Perry that I love, for sure.

Some will do this because Arnel carries the band and they can't stand that, while SP does what lately? ( I can't hear you )

[Michigan Girl]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

Call me when Arnel put's out a solo album that goes gold. Maybe he could put out a record of the covers he sings when he's not with Journey. That would sell well, I'm sure.

FTLOSM came out right at the height of the "grunge" shit. Selling almost a million albums of melodic rock/pop at that time was a hell of an achievement.

Grunge is a lame excuse. If I remember correctly, even fucking Michael Bolton had an album from 1994 go platinum.

that time period had a lot of great R&B doing great.

Why drag Arnel into this? He isn't in Perry's league when comparing solo work and writing music solo. But what in the world does that have to do with just not loving FTLOSM? Nobody who bought it set out to not love it. It's just the way it is for some of us. Too depressing and same ol same ol all the way through, and many loons have stated such, who adore Perry. But some really beautiful and amazing songs on there with great vocals by Perry that I love, for sure.

Some will do this because Arnel carries the band and they can't stand that, while SP does what lately? ( I can't hear you )

It's your favorite thing to do to SP every chance you get ...no room to talk here, mouth!!

[madsplash]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

Call me when Arnel put's out a solo album that goes gold. Maybe he could put out a record of the covers he sings when he's not with Journey. That would sell well, I'm sure.

FTLOSM came out right at the height of the "grunge" shit. Selling almost a million albums of melodic rock/pop at that time was a hell of an achievement.

Grunge is a lame excuse. If I remember correctly, even fucking Michael Bolton had an album from 1994 go platinum.

that time period had a lot of great R&B doing great.

Why drag Arnel into this? He isn't in Perry's league when comparing solo work and writing music solo. But what in the world does that have to do with just not loving FTLOSM? Nobody who bought it set out to not love it. It's just the way it is for some of us. Too depressing and same ol same ol all the way through, and many loons have stated such, who adore Perry. But some really beautiful and amazing songs on there with great vocals by Perry that I love, for sure.

Some will do this because Arnel carries the band and they can't stand that, while SP does what lately? ( I can't hear you )

Yea, he gets richer and richer and new generations hear him(not Arnel) sing Don't Stop Believing on the radio EVERYDAY. Can you hear that?

He's doing real bad, isn't he? And Arnel CARRY the band now? Neal and Jon have carried him to be able to pay his rent.
Carry the band?

We all know who still holds the keys to the legacy.

[steveo777]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

Call me when Arnel put's out a solo album that goes gold. Maybe he could put out a record of the covers he sings when he's not with Journey. That would sell well, I'm sure.

FTLOSM came out right at the height of the "grunge" shit. Selling almost a million albums of melodic rock/pop at that time was a hell of an achievement.

Grunge is a lame excuse. If I remember correctly, even fucking Michael Bolton had an album from 1994 go platinum.

that time period had a lot of great R&B doing great.

Why drag Arnel into this? He isn't in Perry's league when comparing solo work and writing music solo. But what in the world does that have to do with just not loving FTLOSM? Nobody who bought it set out to not love it. It's just the way it is for some of us. Too depressing and same ol same ol all the way through, and many loons have stated such, who adore Perry. But some really beautiful and amazing songs on there with great vocals by Perry that I love, for sure.

Some will do this because Arnel carries the band and they can't stand that, while SP does what lately? ( I can't hear you )

Yea, he gets richer and richer and new generations hear him(not Arnel) sing Don't Stop Believing on the radio EVERYDAY. Can you hear that?

He's doing real bad, isn't he? And Arnel CARRY the band now? Neal and Jon have carried him to be able to pay his rent.
Carry the band?

We all know who still holds the keys to the legacy.

Apparently I'm a bad aim. All points missed. What the fuck do you think a lead singer does anyway? Carry the band of course.
I wasn't asking what SP was doing in a performing sense. We all know the answer to that, which is nothing but collect a handsome paycheck, which he is entitled to. I don't deny any of what Perry did and the fantastic legacy of music or that he has given me and the world hours of enjoyment. Those credits are his forever. And I just realized this is another one of those redundant discussions. I'm done.

[Michigan Girl]

I'm done.

You should be .. you don't know what the eff you're talking about most of the time.
You're numero uno when it comes to tearing Perry down and then trying to crawfish your way out of it ...real pro!!
You'll be back having this discussion again, that's^^^ the reason you're here ...
your whining isn't s bad as it used to be, though!!

[Since 78]

I just keep rediscovering that its boring. Just deleted all of the songs from my itunes yesterday, except for Missing You and I am.

[portland]

Rediscovering FTLOSM is like stumbling upon a 15 year old barf bag, heating it up in the microwave and eating it for fucking dinner.

Call me when Arnel put's out a solo album that goes gold. Maybe he could put out a record of the covers he sings when he's not with Journey. That would sell well, I'm sure.

FTLOSM came out right at the height of the "grunge" shit. Selling almost a million albums of melodic rock/pop at that time was a hell of an achievement.

Grunge is a lame excuse. If I remember correctly, even fucking Michael Bolton had an album from 1994 go platinum.

that time period had a lot of great R&B doing great.

Why drag Arnel into this? He isn't in Perry's league when comparing solo work and writing music solo. But what in the world does that have to do with just not loving FTLOSM? Nobody who bought it set out to not love it. It's just the way it is for some of us. Too depressing and same ol same ol all the way through, and many loons have stated such, who adore Perry. But some really beautiful and amazing songs on there with great vocals by Perry that I love, for sure.

Some will do this because Arnel carries the band and they can't stand that, while SP does what lately? ( I can't hear you )

Yea, he gets richer and richer and new generations hear him(not Arnel) sing Don't Stop Believing on the radio EVERYDAY. Can you hear that?

He's doing real bad, isn't he? And Arnel CARRY the band now? Neal and Jon have carried him to be able to pay his rent.
Carry the band?

We all know who still holds the keys to the legacy.

Hey Splashy!!! Nice to see you....you Big Loon!

[Jana]

I just keep rediscovering that it's boring. Just deleted all of the songs from my itunes yesterday, except for Missing You and I am.

LOL

But I like a few more songs than that on it.

[steveo777]

I just keep rediscovering that its boring. Just deleted all of the songs from my itunes yesterday, except for Missing You and I am.

LOL

But I like a few more songs than that on it.

Its a half-n-half album