So who has given up?

[MBPL]

angry at some woman named Vivian. History aside, bitterness only does one thing, goes with you to the grave.

Oh shit, Vivian's a man! Gosh, I should have done my research first, sorry.

[MBPL]

[/b][/i].....How sad to be crotchety old men who die bitter and angry over nothing like that guy named Dio who died being bitterly angry at some woman named Vivian. History aside, bitterness only does one thing, goes with you to the grave.

AMEN, Lorrie ...very well stated!!! Was the "some woman named Vivian" comment a joke?!? ...because I am LMAO!!!

Nope, not a joke. I spoke before I realized Vivian is a man. You know, I was not a Metal/Rock chick. With the exception of Journey, Toto and a few others, I do not know many of the groups you all mention here on MR. Being on this forum has taught me a lot about the world I never quite tapped into. Have a great weekend, my dear!

[Saint John]

Dio wasn't bitter at Vivian ... he was simply telling the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOwZBo8FQvo

[i]

Boy,, you know it's slow in here when this dead horse rears it's head,, lol

I get that you're just venting, @bionic,,,

but "giving up" implies that we have any choice,,, either in whether Perry ever sings for the public again,, (we don't)
or in,, emphatic declaration or no,,, whether or not most us in here would be the first in line to buy something if he DID
(of course we would be) -

I didn't know cyndy had a soft side,,, lol

but I agree with her Zen advise,,

"give up" on worrying about it,,, Instead of wasting ti me on 'what ifs' - enjoy the here and now,,

and IF and when he so blesses us, THEN you can lose your mind,,, lol (I know I will, anyway!)

In the mean time, enjoy what he has already given us,, (maybe during that bubble bath, lol) -

[[ Which brings me to my first reason for posting, lol -
If you haven't already, join guitars101 and download the dozens of Jrny concert bootlegs,,
http://www.guitars101.com/forums/tags.php?tag=journey
just about every one of them are mindblowingly great,,
and I swear,, they make the music all fresh again ]]
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and maybe find some new stuff:


[ & to my second reason - ]

Adam Lambert is a great choice! Well, he has been for ME, anyway.

&, he may not be your cupOtea - Esp if your a homophobe (YKWYA)
- but No WAY is he just a "fad",,, - the boy can SANG! - ANYTHING! He almost has too MANY options, lol.

And everyone who meets him (interviewers,, rap singers, Slash,, Leno,,,) gushes about how much they LIKE this guy – how nice, funny,, how much of a hard worker he is,,, (i.e. he’s making pretty good friends) –

& it doesn’t hurt that he’s this big, gorgeous man – whose 'package' has it’s own fan club,, lol – [ which might explain his core of NASCAR-like devoted fans (read: a little crazy)]

(Even Gene Simmons called him a “powerful, handsome man” when he sang with KISS)

Lol,,

& if you don’t like his current stuff,, just look thru his Idol and preidol youtube clips,, he literally has every genre covered,,,

Blah, blah, blah,, here are some great examples of Adam's voice and genre range:

A GREAT performance of "his hit - Whataya Want from me"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujab_aU6WGo


Just last night on Leno - (Esp great From about 2:27 till the end – lordy, the PIPES on this guy!!) ( & aren’t those your pants, Saint John )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqx0cHYYKlQ

With Queen (The first singer was the winner of American Idol,, lol
Now,,,,, he's a very sweet and talented guy,,
but,, then Adam sings ... – [I'm telling ya,, he can sing ANYTHING!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VObRy6BJSlQ


if you prefer Broadway tunes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJYyqzUr6jU


or Led Zeppelin:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lambosessed ... gefeahZCFU

and my favorite – DAMN! He can sing!
Bowie Medley:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvAr8zizATw

And here's Slash in a recent interview - talks ie Adam starting @ about 5:48
http://mix941fm.radio.com/2010/05/20/slash-interview/

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& lastly - (There are literally HUNDREDS of examples,,, )

A Change is Gonna Come - just beautiful!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO-u8IawTjY



Ok, then - killed just enough time, lol
hope you enjoy these..
,, g’night, gracie



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[Babyblue]

Boy,, you know it's slow in here when this dead horse rears it's head,, lol

I get that you're just venting, @bionic,,,

but "giving up" implies that we have any choice,,, either in whether Perry ever sings for the public again,, (we don't)
or in,, emphatic declaration or no,,, whether or not most us in here would be the first in line to buy something if he DID
(of course we would be) -

I didn't know cyndy had a soft side,,, lol

but I agree with her Zen advise,,

"give up" on worrying about it,,, Instead of wasting time on 'what ifs' - enjoy the here and now,,

and IF and when he so blesses us, THEN you can lose your mind,,, lol

In the mean time, enjoy what he has already given us,, (maybe during that bubble bath, lol) -

[[ Which brings me to my first reason for posting, lol -
If you haven't already, join guitars101 and download the dozens of Jrny concert bootlegs,,
just about every one of them are mindblowingly great,,
and I swear,, they make the music all fresh again http://www.guitars101.com/forums/tags.php?tag=journey ]]
-


and maybe find some new stuff:


[ & to my second reason - ]

Adam Lambert is a great choice! Well, he has been for ME, anyway.

&, he may not be your cupOtea - Esp if your a homophobe (YKWYA)
- but No WAY is he just a "fad",,, - the boy can SANG! - ANYTHING! He almost has too MANY options, lol.

And everyone who meets him (interviewers,, rap singers, Slash,, Leno,,,) gushes about how much they LIKE this guy – how nice, funny,, how much of a hard worker he is,,, (i.e. he’s making pretty good friends) –

& it doesn’t hurt that he’s this big gorgeous man – whose package has it’s own fan club,, lol – [ which might explain his core of NASCAR-like devoted (read: a little crazy) fans]

(Even Gene Simmons called him a “powerful, handsome man” when he sang with KISS)

Lol,,

& if you don’t like his current stuff,, just look thru his Idol and preidol youtube clips,, he literally has every genre covered,,,

Blah, blah, blah,, here are some examples:

A GREAT performance of "his hit - Whataya Want from me"
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ujab_aU6WGo


Just last night on Leno - (Esp great From about 2:27 till the end – lordy, the PIPES on this guy!!) ( & aren’t those your pants, Saint John )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqx0cHYYKlQ

With Queen (The first singer was the winner of American Idol,, lol
Now,,,,, he's a very sweet and talented guy,,
but,, then Adam sings ... – [I'm telling ya,, he can sing ANYTHING!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VObRy6BJSlQ


if you prefer Broadway tunes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJYyqzUr6jU


or Led Zeppelin:
http://www.youtube.com/user/lambosessed ... gefeahZCFU

and my favorite – DAMN! He can sing!
Bowie:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvAr8zizATw

Slash talks ie Adam starting @ about 5:48
http://mix941fm.radio.com/2010/05/20/slash-interview/

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& lastly - (There are literally HUNDREDS of examples,,, )

Change is Gonna Come
www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO-u8IawTjY


Ok, then hope you enjoy these..
,, g’night, gracie



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I loved it when Adam sang & Elvis song he even made me think of him a little bit.Adam will be singing for a very long time.

[i]

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he "sang" Elvis? I'm running on fumes, lol,, so 4give,, but I don't remember an Elvis song.
He sang a "rat pack" song (Feeling Good - another great performance!)

- and he mentored for Elvis week this year,,,

Doesn't mean he DIDN'T sing one, lol

I'm just pulling a blank,,, hmmmm
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ANYway,, Another suggestion - If you prefer more "rock" with your great vocalist,, you might try MUSE- - Great live band - GREAT singer!!

MUSE - Resistance Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPE9uSFFxrI






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[Jana]

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he "sang" Elvis? I'm running on fumes, lol,, so 4give,, but I don't remember an Elvis song.
He sang a "rat pack" song (Feeling Good - another great performance!)

- and he mentored for Elvis week this year,,,

Doesn't mean he DIDN'T sing one, lol

I'm just pulling a blank,,, hmmmm
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ANYway,, Another suggestion - If you prefer more "rock" with your great vocalist,, you might try MUSE- - Great live band - GREAT singer!!

MUSE - Resistance Live
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPE9uSFFxrI


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Muse is some of my favorite night jogging music, when I'm trying to pick up speed.

Map of the Problematique - http://www.youtube.com/v/Rh3aZcc15ts&hl=en

And my absolute favorite from their newest CD - a sexy song/stunning

Undisclosed Desires - http://www.youtube.com/v/bWTuKd2lTo4&hl=en

[i]

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another great one:

MUSE - Plug In Baby Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUqJHKg8jG0


later~

(ps I actually don't know those, @Jana - look forward to checking them out)


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[Jana]

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another great one:

MUSE - Plug In Baby Live: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUqJHKg8jG0


later~

(ps I actually don't know those, @Jana - look forward to checking them out)


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The thing I love about Muse is their unbelievable talent. They have such a mix in their music - prog rock, even metal rock sounding at times, electronica, and then their symphonic rock. Matthew Bellamy wrote and composed everything on their last CD and did a three-part rock symphony on it. Here's my favorite, the third part. Since late 90s there have been few truly original and brilliant artists or bands. This band is one for their uniqueness and vision alone that has carried through five albums.

Exogenesis Symphony (Redemption) part 3 - It gives me chills it's so beautiful.

http://www.youtube.com/v/e4EqjvnWfRM&hl=en

[Ligzig]

I got a tattoo of Steve Perry on my ass.

He better follow up with a CD or I will just look plain silly when I'm 70.

[i]

I got a tattoo of Steve Perry on my ass.

He better follow up with a CD or I will just look plain silly when I'm 70.

hate to tell ya, but a new CD aint gonna help ya with that one


jk,, but don't come asking for judges!!!


Hah,, ok,,, why am i here again,,

oh yeah,,,

if anyone else would like mp3s of the above/any Adam Lambert perfomances,, pls let me know


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[steveo777]

I got a tattoo of Steve Perry on my ass.

He better follow up with a CD or I will just look plain silly when I'm 70.

May I please see it? I'm mainly interested in the artwork. Muwahahaha......

[journey361]

Even if Perry would come back now, he's 61 and im sure in no way shape or form, ready to tackle all the horrible promotional- crap while leading to a possible tour or even just getting in the music-curve so to speak. At his age and now set in his ways, it wouldn't be easy or really wanted i willing to bet. Being 50 i grew up with Perry's run to stardum as he joined Journey while cutting Infinity and from there became his icon self to date. Of course, Perry's voice was like no other but in that era he was active, the type of music was just flat out different than today. It was rock/ballad and the even did some vocall testing with Perry's riffs. Perry was great at what he did and there will be no other, EVER, like him. I never said better, i said like him. Which brings me to one Adam Lambert. All that being said, pop music is not easy to sing and sing good or maybe form your fan base by the millions. Pop/Eletric is different in alot of areas vocally and the band behind you is adapted or should be to what you as a artist is trying to put out there. Grabbing for any sense of stabillity one might garner over a tough pop-crowd that now is bunched up or a field full of artists to choose from. Lambert caught my eye one winter night near the beginning of American Idol and a year and ahalf later, i know im dead on about him. He has said this is the type of music he wants to make, and maybe he is telling the truth, but the record label he is with calls the shots on his single releases and thought better of him that he become a pop/eletric/rock singer being his best chance to outlive this tough over crowded business. But, as i have listened to him at 18 years old, 22 years old, 24 years old and now, he was then and is now, FLAT OUT VOCALLY AWESOME WITH NO VOCAL COMPETITION technically. I didn't say he was for everyone, i said technically. He is singing Pop/Eletric/dance and doing it frick'en dam well. He has four octaves and can sing in any style, you name it, he can do it and he sings, do it perfectly. No matter what you think of him as a person which is also one of his selling traits because he's NO-SHIT attitude, he is the best out there. I believe, he will go down in history, as a legend as his career fly's off the charts.

[i]

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Hey @journey361 - is your return key broken?
boy, that's hard on the eyes, lol,, but i THINK i agree with you ie Lambert

speaking of - here's the clip I promised
Adam Lambert - Sleepwalker (Leno)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Qbb0_3JyA

Funny how so MANY people just LOVE Sleepwalker (written by Ryan Tedder/OneRepublic) - and it''s just not my fave...
same with WWFM

Both very good songs,, and I love these live versions,,, but....

different strokes,,,

Now,, I LOVE this one,, probably because it is so JOURNEY-like, lol

Adam Lambert - Aftermath - [just beautiful & one Adam actually wrote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KIdp0C7VIU




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[journey361]

Yea, so sorry about the lack of return buttons. LOL.

[Jana]

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Hey @journey361 - is your return key broken?
boy, that's hard on the eyes, lol,, but i THINK i agree with you ie Lambert

speaking of - here's the clip I promised
Adam Lambert - Sleepwalker (Leno)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-Qbb0_3JyA

Funny how so MANY people just LOVE Sleepwalker (written by Ryan Tedder/OneRepublic) - and it''s just not my fave...
same with WWFM

Both very good songs,, and I love these live versions,,, but....

different strokes,,,

Now,, I LOVE this one,, probably because it is so JOURNEY-like, lol

Adam Lambert - Aftermath - [just beautiful & one Adam actually wrote]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KIdp0C7VIU




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I saw him on Leno. I loved his outfit. Great look. I like Aftermath better, too.

[annie89509]

Adam Lambert ....the kid has pipes. But guess I'm stuck in the oldies... I still think the 70's and 80's artists are better.

[i]

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Glad you liked Aftermath, @Jana,,,

To be honest, imo, there's not one weak song on the album. It's a rarity, that way..

It's just, the songs are SO varied,, you get wildly different opinions on the strongest songs and visaversa..

Another fave you might like is Broken Open,, (one he also wrote) it's another Journeyesc,, Sarah MacClauglanesc (sp?hah)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvPqF1nHK98

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[journey361]

With with all this Adam Lambert talk, if my 2 cents is worth anything, the age old question of vocal strength, wear and tear and vocal fold needs to be touched about. Case in point is Hall-Of Famer Steve Perry. If its ever officially released to the world, did he retire from one, or two of the above vocal problems he suffered throughout his historic run.
I doubt he just up and retired because he wanted to. He made to much money, got tired of being told every bridge and note he recorded was gold and beautiful. I don't see it that way. I see it this way as in vocal problems rearing its ugly head to some level. Now, Adam Lambert now 5 months in his career is resting due to vocal strain or a promotional tour thats taken its toll somewhat.
He is scheduled to start his first ever major tour the first week in June. Now, compairing his voice and Perry's has to be technically broken down cause they don't sound alike and they sing different styles in different eras.
Lambert is now a eletric/pop/rock singer where Perry's vocals were based upon the classic 80's rock (ballad/rock). Perry used Sam Cooke's style and a unearthly vibrato that separted him from really any other singer.
Lambert hit's high notes but they are used in different bridges and riffs because frankly times are different and music has changed. All this being said, will Lambert hurt or damage his vocals because he does hit high notes pretty much on a regular basis and plus his style breaths uplifting riffs and bridges that his vocal DNA has structured itself to do.
With his songbook along with stardom/promotional tourning for years to come, this will be interesting because really there is NO OTHER SINGER OUT THERE LIKE HIM. And like Perry, he gives it all live as well, no short cuts at all, pure vocal confidence and ability.

[shaneslatts]

I never think about whether he will reappear with an album or tour. Last time I did was last year for a while when it seemed likely. Now, to me, not. But if it happens, a nice surprise, but otherwise don't care anymore.

It all comes down to' if he wants to '
There is no doubt in my mind that, if he wanted to he could.
He would not be the Steve Perry of 1981.
But then again, who would expect that.
As much as I hate to be blunt, since at least 2000, Steve Perry has been silent, for the most part.
Yeah, he has put out an occasional vocal masterpiece, such as ' A Brand New Start ' with David Pack... but other then that, nothing really.
Other vocalists, even from one and two decades before Steve Perry's prime were still touring and making music while Steve Perry was doing little other then an occasional' maybe' or ' I'm working on stuff'

If I had any influence at all on him, I would simply tell him this.
There are a lot of fans who want to hear you, and no, you don't have to sound like '1981 Journey'
Even Arnel does not sound like that.
No one could or ever will.

You could put out music NOW and I bet you would pretty much own the adult contemporary market.
At the same time......
The window of opportunity does not remain open forever.

If you are satisfied with what you already gave, and you simply have nothing left, just say so, but otherwise,.....
Put out what you have written, and let your voice, and your music speak for itself.
Vocalists SING, and your a VOCALIST

Just DO it

[shaneslatts]

The guy should be preforming.
He is a musical genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8imszU1 ... re=related

[sp old ldy]

DITTO
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[steveo777]

As they say, the world needs all kinds of people.

The day people stop believing is the day the loons start becoming fossils.

[sp old ldy]

[i]

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aaahhhh,, we can only hope, @shaneslatts!

and for me, at least, all the talk ie whether he could still sing the high stuff is quite mute,,,,,
I actually prefer the deeper voice, as in your musical selection,, Faithfully.

the high stuff is very pretty.. but that deeper voice is more soulful.,, and much more sensual


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[shaneslatts]

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aaahhhh,, we can only hope, @shaneslatts!

and for me, at least, all the talk ie whether he could still sing the high stuff is quite mute,,,,,
I actually prefer the deeper voice, as in your musical selection,, Faithfully.

the high stuff is very pretty.. but that deeper voice is more soulful.,, and much more sensual


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If I were to guess, Steve Perry would be a step down from his preformance in 1994.
The thing is, people would still want to hear him sing. And yes, he could even pull off 'Faithfully' a step down from his NYC preformance.
The ONE thing that wont change much is his TONE. That will remain the same.
People would hear that unmistakeable tone and know right away who that voice belongs to.
No one would expect the crazy high end vocals. If Steve Perry thinks that what his fans 'want', I think he is wrong.
They just want to hear him, and what they ' heard' was his tone.
Thats really all he needs, and I would be willing to bet that he could still reach notes that not too many preformers could match, even today.
Just DO it.

[sp old ldy]

DITTO
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[TRAGChick]

The guy should be preforming.
He is a musical genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8imszU1 ... re=related

Over 1 million views.

PEOPLE MISS YOU!!!

PS....Happy Memorial Day \~/

[i]

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in the words of sp old ldy - "DITTO" that, TRAGChick





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[annie89509]

The guy should be preforming.
He is a musical genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8imszU1 ... re=related

Over 1 million views.

PEOPLE MISS YOU!!!

PS....Happy Memorial Day \~/

God, I love that performance !!!! Come back here to click on that link just to watch it over and over again....just mesmerizing.

Miracle of miracles .... if Steve ever comes out to sing that song again, guarantee there wouldn't be a dry eye in the whole place.