So who has given up?

[portland]

The guy should be preforming.
He is a musical genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8imszU1 ... re=related

Totally agree....love this performance!


If he wants to grace us with his presence on stage again I will be there and will just listen to the
VOICE.....that will be more than enough for me.

[Since 78]

The guy should be preforming.
He is a musical genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8imszU1 ... re=related

Totally agree....love this performance!


If he wants to grace us with his presence on stage again I will be there and will just listen to the
VOICE.....that will be more than enough for me.

Frankly, seeing these just pisses me off.

[portland]

The guy should be preforming.
He is a musical genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8imszU1 ... re=related

Totally agree....love this performance!


If he wants to grace us with his presence on stage again I will be there and will just listen to the
VOICE.....that will be more than enough for me.

Frankly, seeing these just pisses me off.

Why?? I know I am going to regret asking this question.

[Don]

The guy should be preforming.
He is a musical genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8imszU1 ... re=related

Totally agree....love this performance!


If he wants to grace us with his presence on stage again I will be there and will just listen to the
VOICE.....that will be more than enough for me.

Frankly, seeing these just pisses me off.

Why?? I know I am going to regret asking this question.

Yes you are.

[portland]

The guy should be preforming.
He is a musical genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8imszU1 ... re=related

Totally agree....love this performance!


If he wants to grace us with his presence on stage again I will be there and will just listen to the
VOICE.....that will be more than enough for me.

Frankly, seeing these just pisses me off.

Why?? I know I am going to regret asking this question.

Yes you are.

I know....I never learn do I?

[Since 78]

The guy should be preforming.
He is a musical genius

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8imszU1 ... re=related

Totally agree....love this performance!


If he wants to grace us with his presence on stage again I will be there and will just listen to the
VOICE.....that will be more than enough for me.

Frankly, seeing these just pisses me off.

Why?? I know I am going to regret asking this question.

Yes you are.

I know....I never learn do I?

No you don't

Seriously though, it doesn't bother anyone else? Instead of using what was/is left of his voice for a reunion concert or tour with the guys (he obviously still wanted to sing Journey songs) which I'm sure they would have agreed to, he wasted the opportunity for a FTLOSM Tour? What was he trying to prove? The 2 or 3 decent songs on that album, could have been on TBF. Just a waste!

[journey361]

You know you can say what you want to believe about Perry. Should Perry have done this or that or the other but i believe he really had issues with one or two members of the band. Enough so that he more or less didn't give a dam which direction they went without him. FTLOSM will go down being his last cd. UNREAL.

[Jana]

You know you can say what you want to believe about Perry. Should Perry have done this or that or the other but i believe he really had issues with one or two members of the band. Enough so that he more or less didn't give a dam which direction they went without him. FTLOSM will go down being his last cd. UNREAL.

What about TBF?

[journey361]

Are you asking me Jana?

[Jana]

Are you asking me Jana?

You said FTLOSM was his last album. That's why I said that. Maybe you were just talking solo.

[journey361]

Jana i guess i should have said leading up to TBF. I'm sorry but my feeling towards Neil S. would be one out of hate and pitty if i were Steve Perry. I don't care what anyone wants to yell at me on here, there is no question Neil was jelous or whatever towards Perry. What about that Open Arms saga. And Neil saying F__k Steve lazyass Perry. Neil knows Perry is a legendary vocalist and he's not a legendary guitaist.

[Jana]

Jana i guess i should have said leading up to TBF. I'm sorry but my feeling towards Neil S. would be one out of hate and pitty if i were Steve Perry. I don't care what anyone wants to yell at me on here, there is no question Neil was jelous or whatever towards Perry. What about that Open Arms saga. And Neil saying F__k Steve lazyass Perry. Neil knows Perry is a legendary vocalist and he's not a legendary guitaist.

Uh-oh, I have to back away from this one.

[journey361]

Jana, you don't know what Neil said about Perry in a interview in 2008. Really not a cool thing to say even if you don't like someone and in the public eye to boot. LOL, i laugh a Neil and his average guitar playing. Put Perry with Slash or Edge.

[Jana]

Jana, you don't know what Neil said about Perry in a interview in 2008. Really not a cool thing to say even if you don't like someone and in the public eye to boot. LOL, i laugh a Neil and his average guitar playing. Put Perry with Slash or Edge.

I know what he said. Neal is refreshing. I love the Edge's minimalistic playing, and he even said in an interview he started playing that way b/c he wasn't very good, but that created the U2 sound, which I love. He can't compare to Neal, though
Perry's voice/Neal's guitar playing = musical soulmates.

[journey361]

Some say Adam Lambert is already vocally ahead of Perry at the age of 28. Which leads me back to the saying, it's ones opinion for their music taste. Do i believe Lambert is in Perry's class, no way. My opinion is Neil is very good but not in a class with the greats where you could make a argument Perry is vocally. Neil deep down inside knows that i'm willing to bet.

[Jana]

Some say Adam Lambert is already vocally ahead of Perry at the age of 28. Which leads me back to the saying, it's ones opinion for their music taste. Do i believe Lambert is in Perry's class, no way. My opinion is Neil is very good but not in a class with the greats where you could make a argument Perry is vocally. Neil deep down inside knows that i'm willing to bet.

He's up there with the greats to people who follow all his work. I own all his solo stuff and he's flat-out amazing.

[journey361]

Well, in any case Jana, he should be good. Hell, who was it, Carlos Santana or a Santana band member picked Neil up from middle school. Thats starting out early.

[Jana]

Well, in any case Jana, he should be good. Hell, who was it, Carlos Santana or a Santana band member picked Neil up from middle school. Thats starting out early.

True.
Bandelero - http://www.youtube.com/v/Yd-QucDMz9I&hl=en Haunting

You're On Your Own Again (with Perry/Rolie) - http://www.youtube.com/v/YPRFbv7s4nY&hl=en - Neal tears this up

[journey361]

To me, and for what ever reason, Neil needs to come to terms that Perry changed the landscape of a fusion band making little if any cash that would have led to a struggling outcome im sure. Mainstream market is fickle to begin with. Perry changed all that with a simple thing called your voice and for the life of me, i have heard and read too many negative remarks concerning how Perry screwed a up and coming hard rock band.
Thats funny as hell.

[Jana]

To me, and for what ever reason, Neil needs to come to terms that Perry changed the landscape of a fusion band making little if any cash that would have led to a struggling outcome im sure. Mainstream market is fickle to begin with. Perry changed all that with a simple thing called your voice and for the life of me, i have heard and read too many negative remarks concerning how Perry screwed a up and coming hard rock band.
Thats funny as hell.

All bands struggle creatively. Neal and Perry were driven for many years and embraced what they were doing. As with all bands, friction starts. Both were at fault at different times, as in all bands. But musically they created a sound that only came b/c they brought out something in each other. Perry without Neal was Street Talk/FTLOSM. No comparison. Neal without Perry would have gone a different harder rock route and never have created some of my favorite songs of all time, Stunning vocals with Stunning Guitar.

They were magic together and with the huge talent of Cain and Rolie created those songs. You can love FTLOSM. I only love some songs and for the most part the album was boring and that was with a ton of co-songwriters. With Journey, it was just Perry/Rolie/Neal or Perry/Cain/Neal and they wrote song after song on album after album that was amazing.

[journey361]

I agree with you on all your assessments although what i don't agree with you is that Perry's voice was capable of great, maybe even HALL-OF-FAME type projects without JOURNEY. We will never know, its water under the bridge cause it never happenned. I always said Perry should have joined forces with one to two other bands after his Journey day's and it never happened. Don't forget that Adam Lambert was quoted as saying without AI he may have well always been touring with theater and doing the club bands thing for his life.

[Jana]

I agree with you on all your assessments although what i don't agree with you is that Perry's voice was capable of great, maybe even HALL-OF-FAME type projects without JOURNEY. We will never know, its water under the bridge cause it never happenned. I always said Perry should have joined forces with one to two other bands after his Journey day's and it never happened. Don't forget that Adam Lambert was quoted as saying without AI he may have well always been touring with theater and doing the club bands thing for his life.

OK, his voice was capable of greatness still and his creative talent. He had a lot of great visions regarding music and how he used his vocals. He was beyond talented in the music business, not just vocals. But lightning doesn't usually strike twice with a second band, and Perry didn't want another band situation. He wanted to be solo and his own musicians. But it's hard to create great albums. How Journey did it so often is that the sum of the whole was greater than the sum of its parts. Something clicked with these guys. Perry with lots of co-writers on his albums and with his sole vision just wasn't the same as far as the greatness of Journey. But he created some gems and even masterpieces off the two solo album which were different than Journey sound. I believe after '86 he never wanted to really tour again and his vocals had some degradation going on. Be thankful for the FTLOSM tour.

[journey361]

I never saw the FTLOSM tour. But i'm going to have to draw the line here on this one, Perry with alot of 80's bands, are you kidding me. Frontmen were jumping all over the place in the 80's and alot of them were below avg. at best. I disagree on this one, Perry alone (Marketable) would have drawn drama alone let alone the music fourthcoming.

[Jana]

I never saw the FTLOSM tour. But i'm going to have to draw the line here on this one, Perry with alot of 80's bands, are you kidding me. Frontmen were jumping all over the place in the 80's and alot of them were below avg. at best. I disagree on this one, Perry alone (Marketable) would have drawn drama alone let alone the music fourthcoming.

Joining another band is joining a band in place already with personalities and leaders. Most bands fall apart after so many years b/c they can't tolerate each other and as they get older they don't like to tour. Perry would never have put himself in that position again with a band already formed at his age and burnout from touring. I believe he really enjoyed his FTLOSM band as a support to him and he was the driving force.

[journey361]

Ok, well, we will never know like i said but oh well.

[Jana]

Ok, well, we will never know like i said but oh well.

I think after leaving Journey he should have hired Cain and paid him a boatload of cash to write with him and turned out some great songs like Raised on Radio, which was more pop. It would have been amazing. J/K

[journey361]

I still after all these years can't understand of i guess accept how his career has ended. I like many don't know why he talks the talk but doesnt walk the walk during so many years of interviews. Perry's voice and magic act was really one of a kind. What may go down in history as a great recording artist, may not even touch the surface concerning his live attitude. Attitude meaning he never ever seemed to take the easy way out live. Not a easy thing to do under so many shows and miles with years added but he never cheated and it was his call, on his terms. I have seen alot of singers in my day, but as far as 98 percent of live vocals, Steve Perry not only sounded amazing, he didn't cheat anyone for what, a 20-doaller ticket. Props Mr. Perry. Buddy you stand alone on that platform.

[Jana]

I still after all these years can't understand of i guess accept how his career has ended. I like many don't know why he talks the talk but doesnt walk the walk during so many years of interviews. Perry's voice and magic act was really one of a kind. What may go down in history as a great recording artist, may not even touch the surface concerning his live attitude. Attitude meaning he never ever seemed to take the easy way out live. Not a easy thing to do under so many shows and miles with years added but he never cheated and it was his call, on his terms. I have seen alot of singers in my day, but as far as 98 percent of live vocals, Steve Perry not only sounded amazing, he didn't cheat anyone for what, a 20-doaller ticket. Props Mr. Perry. Buddy you stand alone on that platform.

Why Can't This Night Go On Forever - - http://www.youtube.com/v/nR4vi0q19lc&hl=en

[TRAGChick]

I still after all these years can't understand of i guess accept how his career has ended. I like many don't know why he talks the talk but doesnt walk the walk during so many years of interviews.

Perry's voice and magic act was really one of a kind. What may go down in history as a great recording artist, may not even touch the surface concerning his live attitude. Attitude meaning he never ever seemed to take the easy way out live. Not a easy thing to do under so many shows and miles with years added but he never cheated and it was his call, on his terms.

I have seen alot of singers in my day, but as far as 98 percent of live vocals, Steve Perry not only sounded amazing, he didn't cheat anyone for what, a 20-doaller ticket.

Props Mr. Perry. Buddy you stand alone on that platform.

[slucero]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...