So who has given up?

[portland]

Jana, you don't know what Neil said about Perry in a interview in 2008. Really not a cool thing to say even if you don't like someone and in the public eye to boot. LOL, i laugh a Neil and his average guitar playing. Put Perry with Slash or Edge.

I know what he said. Neal is refreshing. I love the Edge's minimalistic playing, and he even said in an interview he started playing that way b/c he wasn't very good, but that created the U2 sound, which I love. He can't compare to Neal, though
Perry's voice/Neal's guitar playing = musical soulmates.

That is one way to look at it........

[portland]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...

Well it does not help that the only Journey songs that are ever played on the radio are sung by Perry.....even when they are on
tour. That must burn Neal's ass!

Perry = Journey...always has been, it's just the way it is.

[Since 78]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...

Well it does not help that the only Journey songs that are ever played on the radio are sung by Perry.....even when they are on
tour. That must burn Neal's ass!

Perry = Journey...always has been, it's just the way it is.

Why would it? Hardly any of the 70s, 80s Bands new music gets played, at least not for long. Lame argument. Also, please note, I wasn't bashing Perry, just expressing some disappointment. You guys always have to start on Neal.

And hey journey361 learn how to spell the guy's name. Good grief!

[bluejeangirl76]

Jana, you don't know what Neil said about Perry in a interview in 2008. Really not a cool thing to say even if you don't like someone and in the public eye to boot. LOL, i laugh a Neil and his average guitar playing. Put Perry with Slash or Edge.

I know what he said. Neal is refreshing. I love the Edge's minimalistic playing, and he even said in an interview he started playing that way b/c he wasn't very good, but that created the U2 sound, which I love. He can't compare to Neal, though
Perry's voice/Neal's guitar playing = musical soulmates.

That is one way to look at it........

Did we change the definition of "refreshing"?

[Michigan Girl]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...

Well it does not help that the only Journey songs that are ever played on the radio are sung by Perry.....even when they are on
tour. That must burn Neal's ass!

Perry = Journey...always has been, it's just the way it is.

Why would it? Hardly any of the 70s, 80s Bands new music gets played, at least not for long. Lame argument. Also, please note, I wasn't bashing Perry, just expressing some disappointment. You guys always have to start on Neal.And hey journey361 learn how to spell the guy's name. Good grief!

It's always someone and it goes both ways ...other than that, this post made me lol!!
I sense anger....grrrrrrrrrr!!

[Since 78]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...

Well it does not help that the only Journey songs that are ever played on the radio are sung by Perry.....even when they are on
tour. That must burn Neal's ass!

Perry = Journey...always has been, it's just the way it is.

Why would it? Hardly any of the 70s, 80s Bands new music gets played, at least not for long. Lame argument. Also, please note, I wasn't bashing Perry, just expressing some disappointment. You guys always have to start on Neal.And hey journey361 learn how to spell the guy's name. Good grief!

It's always someone and it goes both ways ...other than that, this post made me lol!!
I sense anger....grrrrrrrrrr!!

Anger? Me? Never!

[portland]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...

Well it does not help that the only Journey songs that are ever played on the radio are sung by Perry.....even when they are on
tour. That must burn Neal's ass!

Perry = Journey...always has been, it's just the way it is.

Why would it? Hardly any of the 70s, 80s Bands new music gets played, at least not for long. Lame argument. Also, please note, I wasn't bashing Perry, just expressing some disappointment. You guys always have to start on Neal.

And hey journey361 learn how to spell the guy's name. Good grief!

Ya mean NEAL?????

I did not say you were bashing Perry......I know you and Dan are the closet Loons of this happy little
family!

[i]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...

Well it does not help that the only Journey songs that are ever played on the radio are sung by Perry.....even when they are on
tour. That must burn Neal's ass!

Perry = Journey...always has been, it's just the way it is.

Why would it? Hardly any of the 70s, 80s Bands new music gets played, at least not for long. Lame argument. Also, please note, I wasn't bashing Perry, just expressing some disappointment. You guys always have to start on Neal.

And hey journey361 learn how to spell the guy's name. Good grief!

I dunno,, I think it's a pretty good argument for why Neal keeps feeling the need to say stupid things about Perry - that Perry STILL gets all the attention, and that probably DOES "burn Neal's ass!" lol

I don't agree that Perry=Journey - though that is pretty much the perception of the "masses."

But, for all the great musicians and writers that have been in Journey,, it's really Perry AND Neal,, together,, that, for some reason unexplainable, are lightning in a bottle. All the other parts, phenomenally talented that they are,, - seem fairly exchangeable,, Not for any logical reason,, it just is.

Even the songs they wrote just together are my faves. Very simple and stripped down,,, just a voice and a rock guitar. Magic. Even the harder stuff they wrote seemed to marry the voice and guitar so wonderfully close.

As Jana said,, I was THRILLED to get FTLOSM,, but it just isn't the same.

Again, not to knock any one else (I worship GR!) Or dismiss the contribs of Cain.

But if even just the TWO of them could get together for a “simple and stripped down” project,, - Good-God-Almighty!


Now you’ve got me spinning my wheels in what ifs! Haha!

I have no way of really knowing, lol, but I think underneath those huge wounded egos there's still a lot of love and admiration between the two of them... just not sure there's enough salve in the world for egos, I mean, wounds,,, that huge, lol


.

[Since 78]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...

Well it does not help that the only Journey songs that are ever played on the radio are sung by Perry.....even when they are on
tour. That must burn Neal's ass!

Perry = Journey...always has been, it's just the way it is.

Why would it? Hardly any of the 70s, 80s Bands new music gets played, at least not for long. Lame argument. Also, please note, I wasn't bashing Perry, just expressing some disappointment. You guys always have to start on Neal.

And hey journey361 learn how to spell the guy's name. Good grief!

Ya mean NEAL?????

I did not say you were bashing Perry......I know you and Dan are the closet Loons of this happy little
family!

No, Dan and I are the balanced members of this happy little family.

[Since 78]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...

Well it does not help that the only Journey songs that are ever played on the radio are sung by Perry.....even when they are on
tour. That must burn Neal's ass!

Perry = Journey...always has been, it's just the way it is.

Why would it? Hardly any of the 70s, 80s Bands new music gets played, at least not for long. Lame argument. Also, please note, I wasn't bashing Perry, just expressing some disappointment. You guys always have to start on Neal.

And hey journey361 learn how to spell the guy's name. Good grief!

I dunno,, I think it's a pretty good argument for why Neal keeps feeling the need to say stupid things about Perry - that Perry STILL gets all the attention, and that probably DOES "burn Neal's ass!" lol

I don't agree that Perry=Journey - though that is pretty much the perception of the "masses."

But, for all the great musicians and writers that have been in Journey,, it's really Perry AND Neal,, together,, that, for some reason unexplainable, are lightning in a bottle. All the other parts, phenomenally talented that they are,, - seem fairly exchangeable,, Not for any logical reason,, it just is.

Even the songs they wrote just together are my faves. Very simple and stripped down,,, just a voice and a rock guitar. Magic. Even the harder stuff they wrote seemed to marry the voice and guitar so wonderfully close.

As Jana said,, I was THRILLED to get FTLOSM,, but it just isn't the same.

Again, not to knock any one else (I worship GR!) Or dismiss the contribs of Cain.

But if even just the TWO of them could get together for a “simple and stripped down” project,, - Good-God-Almighty!


Now you’ve got me spinning my wheels in what ifs! Haha!

I have no way of really knowing, lol, but I think underneath those huge wounded egos there's still a lot of love and admiration between the two of them... just not sure there's enough salve in the world for egos, I mean, wounds,,, that huge, lol


.

Agree with most of what you said, however, I wouldn't call Neal stupid for the things he says. They had a long relationship that we only know so much about. Its how he feels, he also says good things about Perry which I assume he really feels.

[shaneslatts]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...

Well it does not help that the only Journey songs that are ever played on the radio are sung by Perry.....even when they are on
tour. That must burn Neal's ass!

Perry = Journey...always has been, it's just the way it is.

Why would it? Hardly any of the 70s, 80s Bands new music gets played, at least not for long. Lame argument. Also, please note, I wasn't bashing Perry, just expressing some disappointment. You guys always have to start on Neal.

And hey journey361 learn how to spell the guy's name. Good grief!

I dunno,, I think it's a pretty good argument for why Neal keeps feeling the need to say stupid things about Perry - that Perry STILL gets all the attention, and that probably DOES "burn Neal's ass!" lol

I don't agree that Perry=Journey - though that is pretty much the perception of the "masses."

But, for all the great musicians and writers that have been in Journey,, it's really Perry AND Neal,, together,, that, for some reason unexplainable, are lightning in a bottle. All the other parts, phenomenally talented that they are,, - seem fairly exchangeable,, Not for any logical reason,, it just is.

Even the songs they wrote just together are my faves. Very simple and stripped down,,, just a voice and a rock guitar. Magic. Even the harder stuff they wrote seemed to marry the voice and guitar so wonderfully close.

As Jana said,, I was THRILLED to get FTLOSM,, but it just isn't the same.

Again, not to knock any one else (I worship GR!) Or dismiss the contribs of Cain.

But if even just the TWO of them could get together for a “simple and stripped down” project,, - Good-God-Almighty!


Now you’ve got me spinning my wheels in what ifs! Haha!

I have no way of really knowing, lol, but I think underneath those huge wounded egos there's still a lot of love and admiration between the two of them... just not sure there's enough salve in the world for egos, I mean, wounds,,, that huge, lol


.

Agree with most of what you said, however, I wouldn't call Neal stupid for the things he says. They had a long relationship that we only know so much about. Its how he feels, he also says good things about Perry which I assume he really feels.

Perry and Schon brought out the best in each other it seems...
I think deep down, they both wish they had not done so much damage to each other.
Its sad that these two cant just call each other and say..Sorry man, ....yeah me too...
Lets write some music and do a show, just one
Yeah...good idea.....
Seems easy but egos do get in the way of what seems so simple.

[sp old ldy]

DITTO
"

[sp old ldy]

Has anyone read or heard of anymore SP videos disappearing or being drastically cut in length on YT. There has been people complaining about that on FB. For instance, the
Perryville video where he showed up at WOF to sign autographs and talk. It use to be a long video and now it's about a minute or two they say. I have not seen it so I can't really
say, but was wondering. If so,WTF??

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Has anyone read or heard of anymore SP videos disappearing or being drastically cut in length on YT. There has been people complaining about that on FB. For instance, the
Perryville video where he showed up at WOF to sign autographs and talk. It use to be a long video and now it's about a minute or two they say.

[Author2]

Has anyone read or heard of anymore SP videos disappearing or being drastically cut in length on YT. There has been people complaining about that on FB. For instance, the
Perryville video where he showed up at WOF to sign autographs and talk. It use to be a long video and now it's about a minute or two they say.

I take it you don't have anything rationale to contribute?

[fightingilliniJRNY]

Has anyone read or heard of anymore SP videos disappearing or being drastically cut in length on YT. There has been people complaining about that on FB. For instance, the
Perryville video where he showed up at WOF to sign autographs and talk. It use to be a long video and now it's about a minute or two they say.

I take it you don't have anything rationale to contribute?

Nah, I think I said it all. Why didn't you ask the old lady if she had anything rational to contribute? Her post was epitome of irrational and the definition of psycho. Wow.

[Author2]

Has anyone read or heard of anymore SP videos disappearing or being drastically cut in length on YT. There has been people complaining about that on FB. For instance, the
Perryville video where he showed up at WOF to sign autographs and talk. It use to be a long video and now it's about a minute or two they say.

I take it you don't have anything rationale to contribute?

Nah, I think I said it all. Why didn't you ask the old lady if she had anything rational to contribute? Her post was epitome of irrational and the definition of psycho. Wow.

Her post makes SENSE, for I've noticed similar, but upon viewing yours, my first thought was that the Fruitcake Sanitarium was missing a patient.

Have a Great day!

[sp old ldy]

GROW UP..........

[Author2]

Are you the above-referenced psycho? Maybe it's missing two patients, huh?

Have a Great day!

[shaneslatts]

The irony with Perry is that at some point in time (we may already be past that point) his legendary singing skill will surpass his time with Journey... not that it's right.. but when average people hear that voice, they'll think of Perry 1st...

Well it does not help that the only Journey songs that are ever played on the radio are sung by Perry.....even when they are on
tour. That must burn Neal's ass!

Perry = Journey...always has been, it's just the way it is.

Why would it? Hardly any of the 70s, 80s Bands new music gets played, at least not for long. Lame argument. Also, please note, I wasn't bashing Perry, just expressing some disappointment. You guys always have to start on Neal.

And hey journey361 learn how to spell the guy's name. Good grief!

I dunno,, I think it's a pretty good argument for why Neal keeps feeling the need to say stupid things about Perry - that Perry STILL gets all the attention, and that probably DOES "burn Neal's ass!" lol

I don't agree that Perry=Journey - though that is pretty much the perception of the "masses."

But, for all the great musicians and writers that have been in Journey,, it's really Perry AND Neal,, together,, that, for some reason unexplainable, are lightning in a bottle. All the other parts, phenomenally talented that they are,, - seem fairly exchangeable,, Not for any logical reason,, it just is.

Even the songs they wrote just together are my faves. Very simple and stripped down,,, just a voice and a rock guitar. Magic. Even the harder stuff they wrote seemed to marry the voice and guitar so wonderfully close.

As Jana said,, I was THRILLED to get FTLOSM,, but it just isn't the same.

Again, not to knock any one else (I worship GR!) Or dismiss the contribs of Cain.

But if even just the TWO of them could get together for a “simple and stripped down” project,, - Good-God-Almighty!


Now you’ve got me spinning my wheels in what ifs! Haha!

I have no way of really knowing, lol, but I think underneath those huge wounded egos there's still a lot of love and admiration between the two of them... just not sure there's enough salve in the world for egos, I mean, wounds,,, that huge, lol


.

Just my opinion.... but when the masses think ' Journey' they think of the band with the man in the Tuxedo center stage.
Its just the ' way it is '
They could hire the best sound alike guy in the world, ... but people in general will always think of Journey as a band with Steve Perry in front.

[sp old ldy]

DITTO AGAIN.........

[shaneslatts]

The Greatest vocalist of my generation, bar none.
The man was just amazing in his ability to be able to phrase a lyric.
He was even greater in his ability to be able to emote a lyric

Once again, if I was able to speak to Steve Perry. I would simply tell him that alot of people would love to hear him.
If he cant hit all of the crazy high notes.... well, people really don't care.
I dont know about what Herbie said about his lack of contact , or eye contact with an audience... I think he is wrong.

Steve Perry has stage presence.

There are few.... a VERY few that have that.

He just 'has it'

Here is proof... a beautiful lyric, a perfect voice and a stage presence that no one can deny.

Not if they are a fan of Journey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFn1xnPNWL0

[shaneslatts]

The Greatest vocalist of my generation, bar none.
The man was just amazing in his ability to be able to phrase a lyric.
He was even greater in his ability to be able to emote a lyric

Once again, if I was able to speak to Steve Perry. I would simply tell him that alot of people would love to hear him.
If he cant hit all of the crazy high notes.... well, people really don't care.
I dont know about what Herbie said about his lack of contact , or eye contact with an audience... I think he is wrong.

Steve Perry has stage presence.

There are few.... a VERY few that have that.

He just 'has it'

Here is proof... a beautiful lyric, a perfect voice and a stage presence that no one can deny.

Not if they are a fan of Journey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFn1xnPNWL0

Just saw this video again .... Steve Perry and David Pack doing ' A brand new Start' from just a few years ago.
If this any indication of his vocal abiilty, he still ' has it'
. I was looking at the comments and to me, this was the most interesting...

"Timothy B. Schmit (good solid bass player too)

All three are great singers...but man oh man....Perry!!!! Singing backup..staying confined in the role..but you can tell if he wanted to let her rip...it would be no problem!!!"

Again, when it comes to vocal talent, Steve Perry is in a league of his own.

If Steve Perry sounds even close to this today, he would own the Adult Market.Steve Perry is in a rare situation.
He would hold the Adult Contemporary Music field in his grasp even though no one would expect high end 1980s Journey vocals.

An example would be Elton John.
People young and old flock to see him, but no one expects to hear the high notes of ' Tiny Dancer' coming from him anymore.
And I'm sure Steve Perry could still deliever some amazing vocals.
Dude, people want to hear you

[swataz]

Dude, people want to hear you

Succinctly put, this is what he really has to know!

Just let us back in, Steve!!!

[TRAGChick]

Dude, people want to hear you

Succinctly put, this is what he really has to know!

Just let us back in, Steve!!!

+1

[sp old ldy]

Yeah, what they said!!!

[artist4perry]

I never say never...............If he does it will be the greatest gift to all of us that we could ever get. I don't care if he decides not to tour. I would just love to hear him sing one more time.......for old times sake.

[Jana]

The Greatest vocalist of my generation, bar none.
The man was just amazing in his ability to be able to phrase a lyric.
He was even greater in his ability to be able to emote a lyric

Once again, if I was able to speak to Steve Perry. I would simply tell him that alot of people would love to hear him.
If he cant hit all of the crazy high notes.... well, people really don't care.
I dont know about what Herbie said about his lack of contact , or eye contact with an audience... I think he is wrong.

Steve Perry has stage presence.

There are few.... a VERY few that have that.

He just 'has it'

Here is proof... a beautiful lyric, a perfect voice and a stage presence that no one can deny.

Not if they are a fan of Journey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFn1xnPNWL0

Just saw this video again .... Steve Perry and David Pack doing ' A brand new Start' from just a few years ago.
If this any indication of his vocal abiilty, he still ' has it'
. I was looking at the comments and to me, this was the most interesting...

"Timothy B. Schmit (good solid bass player too)

All three are great singers...but man oh man....Perry!!!! Singing backup..staying confined in the role..but you can tell if he wanted to let her rip...it would be no problem!!!"

Again, when it comes to vocal talent, Steve Perry is in a league of his own.

If Steve Perry sounds even close to this today, he would own the Adult Market.Steve Perry is in a rare situation.
He would hold the Adult Contemporary Music field in his grasp even though no one would expect high end 1980s Journey vocals.

An example would be Elton John.
People young and old flock to see him, but no one expects to hear the high notes of ' Tiny Dancer' coming from him anymore.
And I'm sure Steve Perry could still deliever some amazing vocals.
Dude, people want to hear you

Steve Perry would never command the kind of audience that Elton John does without Journey. He had a small solo career. Think back to the size of TBF tour after being gone for eight years. Not Elton John size venues.

[shaneslatts]

The Greatest vocalist of my generation, bar none.
The man was just amazing in his ability to be able to phrase a lyric.
He was even greater in his ability to be able to emote a lyric

Once again, if I was able to speak to Steve Perry. I would simply tell him that alot of people would love to hear him.
If he cant hit all of the crazy high notes.... well, people really don't care.
I dont know about what Herbie said about his lack of contact , or eye contact with an audience... I think he is wrong.

Steve Perry has stage presence.

There are few.... a VERY few that have that.

He just 'has it'

Here is proof... a beautiful lyric, a perfect voice and a stage presence that no one can deny.

Not if they are a fan of Journey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFn1xnPNWL0

Just saw this video again .... Steve Perry and David Pack doing ' A brand new Start' from just a few years ago.
If this any indication of his vocal abiilty, he still ' has it'
. I was looking at the comments and to me, this was the most interesting...

"Timothy B. Schmit (good solid bass player too)

All three are great singers...but man oh man....Perry!!!! Singing backup..staying confined in the role..but you can tell if he wanted to let her rip...it would be no problem!!!"

Again, when it comes to vocal talent, Steve Perry is in a league of his own.

If Steve Perry sounds even close to this today, he would own the Adult Market.Steve Perry is in a rare situation.
He would hold the Adult Contemporary Music field in his grasp even though no one would expect high end 1980s Journey vocals.

An example would be Elton John.
People young and old flock to see him, but no one expects to hear the high notes of ' Tiny Dancer' coming from him anymore.
And I'm sure Steve Perry could still deliever some amazing vocals.
Dude, people want to hear you

Steve Perry would never command the kind of audience that Elton John does without Journey. He had a small solo career. Think back to the size of TBF tour after being gone for eight years. Not Elton John size venues.

Yeah, I tend to agree....I didnt mean to say that Steve Perry would outsell Elton John as far as filling an arena. I meant more along the lines that if people still come to see EJ and his lack of range at this stage of his carear, then people would still come out to see Steve Perry.
Also keep in mind that EJ has not done an album in quite some time.
If Perry released an album, with good material then who knows what he could draw?
But then again, the window of opportunity starts closing at a certain age.

[bluejeangirl76]

Steve Perry would never command the kind of audience that Elton John does without Journey. He had a small solo career. Think back to the size of TBF tour after being gone for eight years. Not Elton John size venues.

You do mean FTLOSM, right?