You Better Wait

[ChildInTime]

Blah, I was basically trying to say that the 'coolness' factor was probably effecting him more than it would have in the 80s, but blah. It was kinda stupid.

One of those open mouth, insert foot, 'duh', sounded-like-a-good-idea-at-the-time-until-you-said-it-out-loud (or in this case typed it) moments. ...I have a lot of those. >_>

[Author2]

What would grunge have to do with people that still had a soft spot for Journey and Perry? TBF sold a million after ten years away with no touring. Think what it would have been with touring. I have many Perry fanatics from back in the Journey day in my office. [b]I'm shocked how many work there that were loons back in the day, and at an office meeting we were discussing Journey b/c I was going to a Journey concert. Every one of them did not like FTLOSM. They said it was disappointing and they liked him with Journey. And even some of them didn't like TBF all that much. [/b] They loved the classic Journey sound. Journey/Perry fans just weren't loving FTLOSM on a grand scale. But it wasn't a failure. It went gold after Perry being eight years away. It think that's nothing to cry about.

I think you said that a few times before and also think you said a few weeks ago that your client said he liked AP's Superbowl performance, and you too said someone else said something.......

I kinda like the naturalness of FTLOSM for it seems like Steve Perry, just maybe being Steve Perry, was having a good time which seems to have carried over to the tour and the comraderie he was having on stage with his band. By the way, you hark on the point of all the writers, but I think if we had been in the room with them at the recording of FTLOSM, our names may have been on it too as co-writers. Also like TBF and wouldn't have expected FTLOSM or his solo projects to sell as well as Journey anyway, even if they were not so few and far. And, gold is not bad.

Was just reading a little history and was Columbia worried about that grunge?
"There were stories of the album being shelved by the record company to await a more AOR friendly environment.
There have been many changes on the rock music scene since Journey released the Raised On Radio album. Grunge dominates the rock music scene. In fact, many rock bands have adopted a 90's sound, including my beloved Harem Scarem. I'm glad to report that Journey have ignored all this and stuck to what they do best"

[Shadowsong]

Oh for God's sake let the man breathe!
There is nothing more special than the breath of life.

Listen to his soul, as it resonates through the spectrum of notes.
Allow him to annunciate in his own way & allow yourself to feel every note tempered by his soul!

Music is the universal language & can carry you up into the heavens.

Gosh just reminds me of something JSS said about singing for Journey...his enthusiasm on the highest level...its like the breath of life!

Nothing can ever mean as much!

[Jana]

What would grunge have to do with people that still had a soft spot for Journey and Perry? TBF sold a million after ten years away with no touring. Think what it would have been with touring. I have many Perry fanatics from back in the Journey day in my office. [b]I'm shocked how many work there that were loons back in the day, and at an office meeting we were discussing Journey b/c I was going to a Journey concert. Every one of them did not like FTLOSM. They said it was disappointing and they liked him with Journey. And even some of them didn't like TBF all that much. [/b] They loved the classic Journey sound. Journey/Perry fans just weren't loving FTLOSM on a grand scale. But it wasn't a failure. It went gold after Perry being eight years away. It think that's nothing to cry about.

I think you said that a few times before and also think you said a few weeks ago that your client said he liked AP's Superbowl performance, and you too said someone else said something.......

I kinda like the naturalness of FTLOSM for it seems like Steve Perry, just maybe being Steve Perry, was having a good time which seems to have carried over to the tour and the comraderie he was having on stage with his band. By the way, you hark on the point of all the writers, but I think if we had been in the room with them at the recording of FTLOSM, our names may have been on it too as co-writers. Also like TBF and wouldn't have expected FTLOSM or his solo projects to sell as well as Journey anyway, even if they were not so few and far. And, gold is not bad.

Was just reading a little history and was Columbia worried about that grunge?
"There were stories of the album being shelved by the record company to await a more AOR friendly environment.
There have been many changes on the rock music scene since Journey released the Raised On Radio album. Grunge dominates the rock music scene. In fact, many rock bands have adopted a 90's sound, including my beloved Harem Scarem. I'm glad to report that Journey have ignored all this and stuck to what they do best"

Like I said above, Gold is good for a solo artist eight years gone and now back in another decade. Just what I said, that it wasn't a failure. I'm not a Perry loon, more a Journey/Perry fan, so why I quoted my co-workers, who were total loons for Perry, on their views on FTLOSM. I myself am moved by Perry on the Journey songs, but not really a huge across-the-board fan of his solo work. I really love some of Street Talk, and love a few of the FTLOSM songs. Like Annie said, FTLOSM overall is pretty dull. I agree. Had it been a much better CD, it would have sold a lot more to the Journey fans IMO.

[Since 78]

What would grunge have to do with people that still had a soft spot for Journey and Perry? TBF sold a million after ten years away with no touring. Think what it would have been with touring. I have many Perry fanatics from back in the Journey day in my office. [b]I'm shocked how many work there that were loons back in the day, and at an office meeting we were discussing Journey b/c I was going to a Journey concert. Every one of them did not like FTLOSM. They said it was disappointing and they liked him with Journey. And even some of them didn't like TBF all that much. [/b] They loved the classic Journey sound. Journey/Perry fans just weren't loving FTLOSM on a grand scale. But it wasn't a failure. It went gold after Perry being eight years away. It think that's nothing to cry about.

I think you said that a few times before and also think you said a few weeks ago that your client said he liked AP's Superbowl performance, and you too said someone else said something.......

I kinda like the naturalness of FTLOSM for it seems like Steve Perry, just maybe being Steve Perry, was having a good time which seems to have carried over to the tour and the comraderie he was having on stage with his band. By the way, you hark on the point of all the writers, but I think if we had been in the room with them at the recording of FTLOSM, our names may have been on it too as co-writers. Also like TBF and wouldn't have expected FTLOSM or his solo projects to sell as well as Journey anyway, even if they were not so few and far. And, gold is not bad.

Was just reading a little history and was Columbia worried about that grunge?
"There were stories of the album being shelved by the record company to await a more AOR friendly environment.
There have been many changes on the rock music scene since Journey released the Raised On Radio album. Grunge dominates the rock music scene. In fact, many rock bands have adopted a 90's sound, including my beloved Harem Scarem. I'm glad to report that Journey have ignored all this and stuck to what they do best"

Like I said above, Gold is good for a solo artist eight years gone and now back in another decade. Just what I said, that it wasn't a failure. I'm not a Perry loon, more a Journey/Perry fan, so why I quoted my co-workers, who were total loons for Perry, on their views on FTLOSM. I myself am moved by Perry on the Journey songs, but not really a huge across-the-board fan of his solo work. I really love some of Street Talk, and love a few of the FTLOSM songs. Like Annie said, FTLOSM overall is pretty dull. I agree. Had it been a much better CD, it would have sold a lot more to the Journey fans IMO.

I agree, the Cd is just not very good. There are a couple of decent songs, but overall very disappointing and not what I was expecting from Perry.

[Michigan Girl]

What would grunge have to do with people that still had a soft spot for Journey and Perry? TBF sold a million after ten years away with no touring. Think what it would have been with touring. I have many Perry fanatics from back in the Journey day in my office. [b]I'm shocked how many work there that were loons back in the day, and at an office meeting we were discussing Journey b/c I was going to a Journey concert. Every one of them did not like FTLOSM. They said it was disappointing and they liked him with Journey. And even some of them didn't like TBF all that much. [/b] They loved the classic Journey sound. Journey/Perry fans just weren't loving FTLOSM on a grand scale. But it wasn't a failure. It went gold after Perry being eight years away. It think that's nothing to cry about.

I think you said that a few times before and also think you said a few weeks ago that your client said he liked AP's Superbowl performance, and you too said someone else said something.......

I kinda like the naturalness of FTLOSM for it seems like Steve Perry, just maybe being Steve Perry, was having a good time which seems to have carried over to the tour and the comraderie he was having on stage with his band. By the way, you hark on the point of all the writers, but I think if we had been in the room with them at the recording of FTLOSM, our names may have been on it too as co-writers. Also like TBF and wouldn't have expected FTLOSM or his solo projects to sell as well as Journey anyway, even if they were not so few and far. And, gold is not bad.

Was just reading a little history and was Columbia worried about that grunge?
"There were stories of the album being shelved by the record company to await a more AOR friendly environment.
There have been many changes on the rock music scene since Journey released the Raised On Radio album. Grunge dominates the rock music scene. In fact, many rock bands have adopted a 90's sound, including my beloved Harem Scarem. I'm glad to report that Journey have ignored all this and stuck to what they do best"

I am LMAO!!!

FTLOSM is dark at times and very deep!! I do have to be in the right
mood/frame of mind, but I LOVE IT!!! The voice alone is why
so many LOONS, who were not referred to as LOONS back in the day, love it as well!!
...and yes this history is what I recall...makes perfect sense!!

[annie89509]

To me, FTLOSM and ST are 2 very different albums. 1 is somber while the other is upbeat. SP said he writes from the heart. Seems to make sense...he had the swagger after Frontiers (when Journey was the biggest band in America and he was their star). After the turmoil of ROR and personal issues, FTLOSM was cartarsis(sp?) for him. What he brings to the new cd (IF we ever get to hear it) will tell us what mood he is in. Hope he's not scared off .

[Author2]

What would grunge have to do with people that still had a soft spot for Journey and Perry? TBF sold a million after ten years away with no touring. Think what it would have been with touring. I have many Perry fanatics from back in the Journey day in my office. [b]I'm shocked how many work there that were loons back in the day, and at an office meeting we were discussing Journey b/c I was going to a Journey concert. Every one of them did not like FTLOSM. They said it was disappointing and they liked him with Journey. And even some of them didn't like TBF all that much. [/b] They loved the classic Journey sound. Journey/Perry fans just weren't loving FTLOSM on a grand scale. But it wasn't a failure. It went gold after Perry being eight years away. It think that's nothing to cry about.

I think you said that a few times before and also think you said a few weeks ago that your client said he liked AP's Superbowl performance, and you too said someone else said something.......

I kinda like the naturalness of FTLOSM for it seems like Steve Perry, just maybe being Steve Perry, was having a good time which seems to have carried over to the tour and the comraderie he was having on stage with his band. By the way, you hark on the point of all the writers, but I think if we had been in the room with them at the recording of FTLOSM, our names may have been on it too as co-writers. Also like TBF and wouldn't have expected FTLOSM or his solo projects to sell as well as Journey anyway, even if they were not so few and far. And, gold is not bad.

Was just reading a little history and was Columbia worried about that grunge?
"There were stories of the album being shelved by the record company to await a more AOR friendly environment.
There have been many changes on the rock music scene since Journey released the Raised On Radio album. Grunge dominates the rock music scene. In fact, many rock bands have adopted a 90's sound, including my beloved Harem Scarem. I'm glad to report that Journey have ignored all this and stuck to what they do best"

Like I said above, Gold is good for a solo artist eight years gone and now back in another decade. Just what I said, that it wasn't a failure. I'm not a Perry loon, more a Journey/Perry fan, so why I quoted my co-workers, who were total loons for Perry, on their views on FTLOSM. I myself am moved by Perry on the Journey songs, but not really a huge across-the-board fan of his solo work. I really love some of Street Talk, and love a few of the FTLOSM songs. Like Annie said, FTLOSM overall is pretty dull. I agree. Had it been a much better CD, it would have sold a lot more to the Journey fans IMO.

Not a big fan of convenient hearsay. I like the CD and, again, considering the time away and environment it seems to have done well. I think it was said on the other board that some people at the LA show 2008 were not even aware Journey had gotten back together in 1995 and produced WYLAW later, probably fewer new of SP. Anyway, to each his own!

[Author2]

What would grunge have to do with people that still had a soft spot for Journey and Perry? TBF sold a million after ten years away with no touring. Think what it would have been with touring. I have many Perry fanatics from back in the Journey day in my office. [b]I'm shocked how many work there that were loons back in the day, and at an office meeting we were discussing Journey b/c I was going to a Journey concert. Every one of them did not like FTLOSM. They said it was disappointing and they liked him with Journey. And even some of them didn't like TBF all that much. [/b] They loved the classic Journey sound. Journey/Perry fans just weren't loving FTLOSM on a grand scale. But it wasn't a failure. It went gold after Perry being eight years away. It think that's nothing to cry about.

I think you said that a few times before and also think you said a few weeks ago that your client said he liked AP's Superbowl performance, and you too said someone else said something.......

I kinda like the naturalness of FTLOSM for it seems like Steve Perry, just maybe being Steve Perry, was having a good time which seems to have carried over to the tour and the comraderie he was having on stage with his band. By the way, you hark on the point of all the writers, but I think if we had been in the room with them at the recording of FTLOSM, our names may have been on it too as co-writers. Also like TBF and wouldn't have expected FTLOSM or his solo projects to sell as well as Journey anyway, even if they were not so few and far. And, gold is not bad.

Was just reading a little history and was Columbia worried about that grunge?
"There were stories of the album being shelved by the record company to await a more AOR friendly environment.
There have been many changes on the rock music scene since Journey released the Raised On Radio album. Grunge dominates the rock music scene. In fact, many rock bands have adopted a 90's sound, including my beloved Harem Scarem. I'm glad to report that Journey have ignored all this and stuck to what they do best"

Like I said above, Gold is good for a solo artist eight years gone and now back in another decade. Just what I said, that it wasn't a failure. I'm not a Perry loon, more a Journey/Perry fan, so why I quoted my co-workers, who were total loons for Perry, on their views on FTLOSM. I myself am moved by Perry on the Journey songs, but not really a huge across-the-board fan of his solo work. I really love some of Street Talk, and love a few of the FTLOSM songs. Like Annie said, FTLOSM overall is pretty dull. I agree. Had it been a much better CD, it would have sold a lot more to the Journey fans IMO.

I agree, the Cd is just not very good. There are a couple of decent songs, but overall very disappointing and not what I was expecting from Perry.

I think you forgot IMO, and I think Steve Perry would be very disappointed too with you.

[journey361]

Perry more than likely decided some years after the FTLOSM CD and FTLOSM tour was over that his name and legacy were at a critical point as time and music had begun to rear it's ugly head. Lets face it, his best work was with Journey, and not solo material as he had more than likely hoped for i'm sure.
People change, times change, music changed and he sat on his ass and grew older and older by the minute. The thing that gets me was after Journey, his options were limitless and he could have swung anyway in any direction musicwise. He did nothing at all. By himself, with other artists or even some new age lyrics. Again, he did nothing. His name and profound tool was already a jaw-dropping success by then and a perfect time to experiment with anything and anyone he wanted. Again, he did nothing. A shame yes, a music icon, go ask Neil.

[Michigan Girl]

, go ask Neil.

Diamond?!?! Young?!!? Sedaka?!?!

You arm chair analysts make me roll my eyeballs until they are ready to
pop right out of my head !!

[JustMyStyle]

Perry more than likely decided some years after the FTLOSM CD and FTLOSM tour was over that his name and legacy were at a critical point as time and music had begun to rear it's ugly head. Lets face it, his best work was with Journey, and not solo material as he had more than likely hoped for i'm sure.
People change, times change, music changed and he sat on his ass and grew older and older by the minute. The thing that gets me was after Journey, his options were limitless and he could have swung anyway in any direction musicwise. He did nothing at all. By himself, with other artists or even some new age lyrics. Again, he did nothing. His name and profound tool was already a jaw-dropping success by then and a perfect time to experiment with anything and anyone he wanted. Again, he did nothing. A shame yes, a music icon, go ask Neil.

I believe we all really don't know all the different factors and reasons why things happened the way it did. Steve has mentioned in many interviews the fact that Against the Wall CD was shelved by Sony which I think was 1988... I imagine this was a extreme disappointment and a bone of contention between Steve and Sony... perhaps contractual reasons kept Steve from pursuing other options..... just a thought....