Saint John wrote:annie89509 wrote:we are talking about vocals in this thread...people remember songs by the vocals.
Well, sorry, I wasn't made aware that
you speak for the entire music listening world.
annie89509 wrote:And who said anything about wanting SP to front the band or that they would be tearing up the charts if he was????? Find any of my posts that suggest that.....Stupid.
Well, here's what you said:
"But does anyone seriously believe, 10 years from now, the songs originated by their current lead singer will be remembered or even talked about by general music fans?"Passive aggressive bullshit. Sounds to me like you're insinuating that the "current lead singer" doesn't have what it takes to "be remembered or even talked about by general music fans ... 10 years from now." That may or not be true, but you're conveniently glossing over the
monumental shift in the landscape of the music industry today, as opposed to the songs that Journey has in their catalog that
are still talked about. What you said is certainly
going to be true, but why even
mention it unless you think that having
someone else fronting them
would allow them to be talked about 10 years down the road? That's like me saying "Steve Perry's new album doesn't have the other members of Journey playing on it and will not sell 5 million copies." While what I said is true, the tone here infers that they're not going to sell 5 million copies because the other members of his former band aren't on it. But that's not really the reason, just like with your claim. Get it ... stupid?
What she's saying is if Journey doesn't score a new original hit with ANY singer post Perry, regardless of how well they sing a Perry era tune, Journey will only be remembered for the music they originated WITH Perry. People remember the original recordings that continually get played on the radio to this day and Journey themselves reinforce this with their choice of singers who can pretty closely approximate their sound with Perry across their never ending greatest hits tour(s) since his departure (no pun intended).
You are being entirely disingenuous here, because you know full well the majority of the people who know the name Journey know the name Steve Perry. This is why Perry's name is constantly brought up in interview after interview more than a decade after they officially called it quits. This is also why in the 90's, almost 7 years after Journey broke up, Perry was able to tour on his own name and fill sizable venues. By contrast, when Neal recently toured tiny clubs like The House of Blues, long after Perry hasn't been in Journey, he (Neal) barely filled the standing room only stage area let alone the venue. No offense to Neal, I'm a big fan and I went to see his solo tour, but facts are facts:
None of the music Journey has created post their heyday (i.e. the 1980's and/or the greatest hits album) has gained any emotional attachments with the majority of general music fans, let alone those "young fans" who go see them in concert today. The majority of those fans associate Journey with Perry, just as the majority of Foreigner fans associate with Graham, Chicago fans associate with Ceterra, etc., etc. THAT'S what Annie is getting and, that's what she's saying -- and -- I happen to believe she's right.
Here's a great example to illustrate a contrasting point (where you would like Journey to be -- and me too for that matter, but rock and roll is dead and this will never happen now):
When Van Halen replaced Roth with Hagar, the majority of their set lists were comprised of music originated with Hagar, with a couple of Roth era tunes thrown in here and there. This was because rock was the popular music of the time, the fan base liked the new music and overwhelmingly approved of this new, very different iteration of the band. Journey on the other hand, has tried to be what they were with Perry and largely tours on their greatest hits album, regardless of whether or not they have new music to promote. Even when they do have new music to promote, the majority of the set list is perry era music. Even when Pineda was on the Philippine version of "who wants to be a millionaire", the powers that be didn't play one of the songs HE originated with Journey at the time (yes Revelation was out then), they played DSB, a Perry-era hit. His own countrymen who have been championing his position in Journey as a matter of national pride did that. If that doesn't speak volumes to anyone without an agenda, that person isn't being fair minded about the facts on the ground and the fact is: Rock is dead and Journey will be remembered for their time with Perry and nothing else.
No you didnt! Steveo!.....Steveo! 
