Steve was gettting it back at the end of the FTLOSM tour..

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Re: Steve was gettting it back at the end of the FTLOSM tour

Postby portland » Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:17 pm

Liquid_Drummer wrote:I have listened to a lot of the FLOTSM tour boots but this new stuff (new to me and it was posted in the past couple of months) from Feb 13 1995 in New Brunswick shows him doing more ad libbing, less rasp, cleaner (not perfect) top range and but loads of power and LONG powerful sustains.. Some of the early boots he sounds really bad at times but here at the end not just the power of his voice seemed to be recovering but there is something about the way he singing. More charged.. The whole band sounds so much better.. Listen to this and compare it to earlier shows. I wonder if he was getting back from just USING IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep-yDs1y ... CF5B432363





Sounds great to me. I would be happy to pay money to listen to this anytime!
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Re: Steve was gettting it back at the end of the FTLOSM tour

Postby KDOUBLEU » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:10 am

portland wrote:
Liquid_Drummer wrote:I have listened to a lot of the FLOTSM tour boots but this new stuff (new to me and it was posted in the past couple of months) from Feb 13 1995 in New Brunswick shows him doing more ad libbing, less rasp, cleaner (not perfect) top range and but loads of power and LONG powerful sustains.. Some of the early boots he sounds really bad at times but here at the end not just the power of his voice seemed to be recovering but there is something about the way he singing. More charged.. The whole band sounds so much better.. Listen to this and compare it to earlier shows. I wonder if he was getting back from just USING IT.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep-yDs1y ... CF5B432363





Sounds great to me. I would be happy to pay money to listen to this anytime!
I went and saw him during this tour and he sounded great. He never cracked a note and he sang for two and a half hours straight. It was an awesome concert.
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Postby Kor'n » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:03 pm

Kor'n wrote:Sorry, no time or energy left for a smiley face….


Gideon wrote:Given that you've had days to prepare your response and the vast majority of it was blindly ripped from my posts, I find this very hard to believe. But what is easy to believe is that your creativity is as limited as your intellect, which would explain the army of quotation marks and the lack of valid points. :lol: .


“Given that” I respond if, and when I get good and ready, I will continue to “blindly” rip from your senseless post so as not to waste time and energy responding to your forever-ending arrogant scolding’s. What I do know is that your “creativity” and your presumed “intellect” is not “limited” but more or less non-existent. I am quite hurt at what you find “very hard to believe.” You probably should “find that hard to believe.”

Limited to no creativity resides upstairs where you often visit and cheer on with no objections.

Kor'n wrote:“First” responding to a cited “top 100 list” that you know is not “authoritative,” but came from a website where the guys just post their thoughts, as is often done ANYWHERE AND EVERYWHERE in cyberspace, “undermines your” sanity as you respond in such an emboldened manner.


Gideon wrote:First, you twice tried to pass off a list from website ran by individuals whose credibility is unattested as something that is authoritative in this discussion, which doesn't work. .


“First” I posted a list and you went berserk with reprimand, which is quite often the typical behavior of Gideon.

Gideon wrote:Second, coming from someone who jumped boldly out of the proverbial gate at Saint John and then me {for simply noting you share similarities with another user}, you have no room to talk about an emboldened manner. You want civility, show some of it. Until then you'll be treated by me exactly as you treat anyone else who disagrees with you. .


“Second” don’t recall any of your or Saint John’s assertions and neither do you, not that I would have cared (no offense). I believe SJ was trying to saddle Perry with the lipping perpetrated by the band on the fans. Third, civility is not an asset of yours.

Gideon wrote:Better strap in, because I show little mercy towards Loons {particularly the aggressive ones}. If you want it to change, then perhaps your next post will be more polite? :wink: .


Go fly a kite!!!! Is that polite enough????

Gideon wrote:The bottom line is that while Steve Perry may be "the Voice" {and he certainly is insofar as that it is a recognized moniker and reference to him}, that list does nothing to prove anything other than the fact at least one guy on the internet thinks Perry is the best live singer in rock history and that is neither what was asserted or discussed.


How dare I assert something that is not in line with what is being discussed when knowing that EVERYONE on this board ALWAYS discuss what is relevant and pertinent to the subject at hand, NEVER gearing away from the subject matter.

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Postby Gideon » Wed Nov 09, 2011 12:59 pm

For a guy who claims to not want to waste time and energy responding to me, your habits are as peculiar as your arguments. :lol:

But we've been done for a while now. The problem wasn't with the list, but with the inane idea that the list was somehow authoritative, that it denied Farnham eligibility for the moniker you and I attribute to Perry. It was inherently faulty logic and consequently a completely faulty argument to make.

With regards to civility, I'm civil to those who are civil to me. If you're the kind of guy who takes valid criticism directed at Perry {or any other member of Journey, for that matter} personally and feel the need to attack those critics because of some misplaced sensitivity, we probably won't get along. On the other hand, I get along with plenty of hardcore Perryfans out there, so it's how you approach it.
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Postby Kor'n » Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:46 pm

Gideon wrote:For a guy who claims to not want to waste time and energy responding to me, your habits are as peculiar as your arguments. :lol:.


Thank you. I like peculiarity, for it may even put a hamper on arrogance.

Gideon wrote:But we've been done for a while now. The problem wasn't with the list, but with the inane idea that the list was somehow authoritative, that it denied Farnham eligibility for the moniker you and I attribute to Perry. It was inherently faulty logic and consequently a completely faulty argument to make.


I'll “throw in the towel” on this one, for you seem to keep “ barking up the wrong tree.”

Gideon wrote:With regards to civility, I'm civil to those who are civil to me. If you're the kind of guy who takes valid criticism directed at Perry {or any other member of Journey, for that matter} personally and feel the need to attack those critics because of some misplaced sensitivity, we probably won't get along. On the other hand, I get along with plenty of hardcore Perryfans out there, so it's how you approach it.


Don't speak of yourself so harshly, and who is attacking whom? Just don't remember responding to your post, and if Monker does not get all "up and armed" about what was posted, why should you? He is probably quite capable of speaking (or posting) for himself, and do not think he took offense to my s/what random post. If so, let HIM tell me so I may apologize. You must realize that you are not the “Keeper of the Castle.”

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Postby Gideon » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:24 pm

Your demeanor seemed aggressive here and elsewhere, so I felt inclined to respond in kind. That's all, I wasn't angry about what you posted. Just felt the need to give tit for tat. We'll start over. :wink:
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Postby Kor'n » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:44 pm

Gideon wrote:Your demeanor seemed aggressive here and elsewhere, so I felt inclined to respond in kind. That's all, I wasn't angry about what you posted. Just felt the need to give tit for tat. We'll start over. :wink:


And so do yours, and you should not have "felt inclined to respond" for I was not talking/posting to you. No "good deed goes unpunished." And, I can out "tat" your "tit" anyday.

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Postby Gideon » Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:55 pm

Kor'n wrote:And so do yours,


I treat others the way they treat me, it's that simple and it's not going to change.

Kor'n wrote:and you should not have "felt inclined to respond" for I was not talking/posting to you.


The fact that you've spent the past several hours responding to people in various threads who weren't "talking/posting to you" and have the temerity to tell me to do otherwise is the sort of reasoning that led to my "berserk reprimand" earlier here. You offer your unsolicited opinions, so do I. Again, it's that simple and it's not going to change.

Kor'n wrote:And, I can out "tat" your "tit" anyday.


If tat is Latin for indulge in double standards and flimsy arguments, I agree. :lol:


{And just in case you misread me, please understand that the above is mere banter and not intended to actually offend.}
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Postby Kor'n » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:12 pm

Kor'n wrote:And so do yours,


Gideon wrote:I treat others the way they treat me, it's that simple and it's not going to change. .


Kor'n wrote:and you should not have "felt inclined to respond" for I was not talking/posting to you.


Gideon wrote:The fact that you've spent the past several hours responding to people in various threads who weren't "talking/posting to you" and have the temerity to tell me to do otherwise is the sort of reasoning that led to my "berserk reprimand" earlier here. You offer your unsolicited opinions, so do I. Again, it's that simple and it's not going to change.


But, I responded to his/her post, not as you did for Monker, who seemingly did not get ruffled about what was posted. By the way, surprise you did not jump in as usual with every post that does not meet your liking. .

Kor'n wrote:And, I can out "tat" your "tit" anyday.


Gideon wrote:If tat is Latin for indulge in double standards and flimsy arguments, I agree. :lol:


You mean what you do?

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Postby Gideon » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:22 pm

Kor'n wrote:But, I responded to his/her post, not as you did for Monker, who seemingly did not get ruffled about what was posted.


You offered your unsolicited opinion to people in the Journey section and I'm doing the same in this one. There is no difference.

Kor'n wrote:By the way, surprise you did not jump in as usual with every post that does not meet your liking.


"You mean as you do"? :wink:

Kor'n wrote:Are we done yet?


Well I figured you'd be done, since you say you don't want to waste your time and energy, remember? :lol:
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Postby Kor'n » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:54 pm

Kor'n wrote:But, I responded to his/her post, not as you did for Monker, who seemingly did not get ruffled about what was posted.


Gideon wrote:You offered your unsolicited opinion to people in the Journey section and I'm doing the same in this one. There is no difference. .


You felt the need to “defend his honor” when his honor was not offended except in your eyes.

Kor'n wrote:By the way, surprise you did not jump in as usual with every post that does not meet your liking.


Gideon wrote:”You mean as you do"? :wink:


Let me see.. How many post have you as compared to mine? :wink:

Kor'n wrote:Are we done yet?


Gideon wrote:Well I figured you'd be done, since you say you don't want to waste your time and energy, remember? :lol:


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Do you find it offensive that someone would just copy almost your every word? Seemingly so b/c of the way you have referred to it??

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Postby Gideon » Thu Nov 10, 2011 12:18 am

Kor'n wrote:You felt the need to “defend his honor” when his honor was not offended except in your eyes.


Nah, that's a complete misread of what I was doing. I don't agree with Monker that Farnham is the Voice.

Kor'n wrote:Let me see.. How many post have you as compared to mine? :wink:


I've been here a little longer. :wink:

Kor'n wrote:Watch is broken and Gatorade is great!


I'm pleased to know that arguing with me is sufficiently exhausting. :D

Kor'n wrote:Do you find it offensive that someone would just copy almost your every word? Seemingly so b/c of the way you have referred to it??


No, not offensive, but it's a fairly uncommon way of posting.
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Postby journeygal77 » Thu Nov 10, 2011 2:55 am

You two are like two five year olds.

Grow up. Who cares. :!:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Thu Nov 10, 2011 5:02 am

lol ...
Kor'n,
I think I'll call you MAIZE!! Welcome!!
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Postby Yoda » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:37 am

Jeremey wrote:George Michael is the single greatest male pop singer alive right now. Period. He's outlasted all of them. All of the melodic rockers out there can barf in my lunchbox, but strictly speaking, the man has no equal. He's selling out stadiums across Europe as we speak with his covers & orchestra tour. I don't know how he does it. The man smoked 20 j's a day and he can still slay.


And as long as George keeps himself from getting in trouble in those public bathrooms, he'll continue to outlast them all! :lol:

Seriously, George Michael has a heck of a voice! Loved his Faith album! Loved a few tunes from Wham as well. I'd definitely would catch his show if he ever tours cross the pond.
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Postby Yoda » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:47 am

Oh, but back to the topic at hand. Saint John - I know 'Drew put ya on vacation (again) but where in the world is all of this animosity toward Perry coming from? You say Perry can't sing anymore, yet there are people on this board, Andrew, Lora, I would assume Cyndy as well, who have heard the man sing recently. You want to continue to harp on the man and his past relationship with Journey, yet you won't read Andrew's interview. You talk about listening to past interviews with Perry, but you won't listen to interviews that just happened last week? What gives?
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Postby perryswoman » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:57 am

Steve can still sing. I dreamed last night he sang at my high school reunion with Friga. They sounded amazing too. Don't ask me where Neal was because he was no where to be found. Don't u just hate it when u have one of those long realistic dreams? I'm reading the forum far too much.
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Postby Art Vandelay » Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:52 am

Just found this clip, it's from December 1994. Don't Stop Believin'. He NAILS it!!! Might be the best recorded performance that I've heard from that tour.

It's damn close to what he was doing it '83.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nir5TymV ... re=related
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Postby Yoda » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:21 am

Art Vandelay wrote:Just found this clip, it's from December 1994. Don't Stop Believin'. He NAILS it!!! Might be the best recorded performance that I've heard from that tour.

It's damn close to what he was doing it '83.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nir5TymV ... re=related


Sounds great to me!
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Nov 11, 2011 7:38 am

Yoda wrote:Oh, but back to the topic at hand. Saint John - I know 'Drew put ya on vacation (again) but where in the world is all of this animosity toward Perry coming from? You say Perry can't sing anymore, yet there are people on this board, Andrew, Lora, I would assume Cyndy as well, who have heard the man sing recently. You want to continue to harp on the man and his past relationship with Journey, yet you won't read Andrew's interview. You talk about listening to past interviews with Perry, but you won't listen to interviews that just happened last week? What gives?

I don't care about that, it's old hat ...tiger won't change his stripes, old dogs can't learn new tricks and something about
his spots ...SJ, when do you come back?!? I am dying to hear your take on the PS debacle!!
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