Perry Tribute Site Bites The Dust

[nolippin]

I don't have that info. Some of the people working with Perryville at the time were the ones who supposedly have that info. Now's the time to use it since they have something in writing that she claims is from MAW and the name and numbers to verify it all.

Ok... might be worth a call. So to clarify, what is supposed to have been the donation amount (versus what was actually donated if that part is legit)? From what I'm seeing there was a $3000 donation made in a two year period (2007 - 2009). That boils down to $125 collected a month, at a cost of $0.50/member a month ($6 fee for the year as previously mentioned). That would mean 250 active members to make up the $3000. Or did other funds go into the MAWF fund? How many active members were part of PV? If it's 500 active, then there is a problem.

He is out of Phoenix, AZ. according to the info he has on Twitter and a couple of other sites. He can also be "googled". His name wasn't hard to find, particularly with all the info left on the letter. KN shot herself in the foot again.

The letter...real or fake...proves nothing in regard to the allegations that have been made...that the amount of money Kathy collected from Perry fans did not equal the amount she actually donated.

All the letter shows is how much was donated...in Kathy Norris's name, not Perryville's.

I do agree that it would not be productive for several people to call the MAW Donor Care Manager. It would be much easier to use Twitter.

His name is Joe Pastori. http://twitter.com/JoePastori

No offense, nolippin, but I think calling a legitimate MAWF number, asking for this person and speaking directly will work better. Twitter is the last thing I'd use if I wanted to get down to an issue of proof. Hell, I could set up a twitter account right now... ya know?

Do you know what office is this Joe out of?

[ForeverInBlue]

I have no idea what the situation is with the closure of PV as I haven't been there since I got the boot a few years ago. But I do know that the owner of the site did make donations in Steve's name to Make-A-Wish in the past. Make-A-Wish would send Steve a note in the mail (in care of me) thanking him for the donation that was made in his name. I remember seeing these notifications a couple of times over the past years, but I don't recall seeing one for the last 2 years. Not sure on that, though.

God, I guess Lora is a liar too. You M fuckers need a life.

[Clasicrockldy]

The poster calling women "hags" is probably a guy, don't you think?

A guy. a girl.. who knows... they been registered since 2007 and just started posting now? Something isn't right...

and you're a fucking rocket scientist too. this forum is full of them I see

Hmmmm I am clever... I see you use the word fucking alot... compensating for something lacking??

would you prefer I used the words douche bag instead?

Go right ahead and use it... doesn't bother me... all it shows is your limited intelligence in the written word.

[ForeverInBlue]

The poster calling women "hags" is probably a guy, don't you think?

I can see you graduated from kindergarden, stupid ass.

[Playitloudforme]

and the Wombat has been notified.

[Andrew]

I think Kathy has sent some more of her minions in here to cause some trouble... Not working Kathy!

Looks like it. There has been no fighting in this thread until a double-drive by today. To the 2 new users - my advice is that you don't storm on here and start making demands of me to shut this thread down, nor send PMs of the same nature.

There are issues here still in play and none of them have anything to do with me, but I'm happy for the conversations to continue.

Now....FOR THE RECORD...I was e-mailed twice in the last few weeks by Kathy herself. One e-mail wasn't fit for commenting on, the other asked that I step in and subit the photographic proof she e-mailed me that donations were submitted.

I could not make heads nor tails of the photographed letter and simply stated that it was NOT my fight and Kathy should step in herself and clear the air personally.

Now I see others have been sent in instead of myself or herself. That is something I do not appreciate and I will be watching this thread very carefully.

[Andrew]

not kathy you dumb paranoid fuck

Get ready to say goodbye.

[Andrew]

[quote
I'd love to see things from your point of view. But my head won't fit up my ass

Why TBF, thanks so much for the wonderful complement. I'm sure the view is just great from whatever angle you'd like to view my point of view from. However, I always thought that everyone was allowed to have a point of view. When did Andrew give you control of MR?

if the asshole fits -wear it

Hi Kathy!

not kathy you dumb paranoid fuck

Ooooo Nice... is that supposed to scare me? NOT... .anywho... you must be one of her minions then....do you want the short bus out?

does the short bus stop at the entertainment centre? cause you're giving me this biggest laugh i've had in ages. And NO I'm not one of the "minions" .. but you're one of the sheep[/quote]

Learn how to use the quotation function.

[Andrew]

The poster calling women "hags" is probably a guy, don't you think?

I can see you graduated from kindergarden, stupid ass.

Fuck it. Enough is enough. Goodbye. Idiot.

[Andrew]

LOL

People registering here should be aware that I have worked with computers and the internet for 15 years now and know my way around finding who is who as far as usernames and IP addresses etc...

So without futher ado, I unveil the identity of ForeverInBlue - Kathy Norris.

Case closed. Goodbye.

[Playitloudforme]

LOL

People registering here should be aware that I have worked with computers and the internet for 15 years now and know my way around finding who is who as far as usernames and IP addresses etc...

So without futher ado, I unveil the identity of ForeverInBlue - Kathy Norris.

Case closed. Goodbye.

All Hail the Wombat!

[nolippin]

I was betting she was Trial By Fire

LOL

People registering here should be aware that I have worked with computers and the internet for 15 years now and know my way around finding who is who as far as usernames and IP addresses etc...

So without futher ado, I unveil the identity of ForeverInBlue - Kathy Norris.

Case closed. Goodbye.

[LyricalLady]

The $6 was only charged for the past 2 years....and was only to help with the cost of the site since it was an AD FREE SITE. Kathy did bye many of the menbers for that fee that sent her a note or called with a financial prolem regarding the fee. Come on take $6 minus the PPal fee (which is how most ppl paid) and divide it by 365 days.....GET OVER IT. It's closed now and I can pretty much say what was collected in the $6 fee didn't pay for the entire site fee each year it was asked for.

The MAW money was garnered from the sale of some items via autions...which was the buyers discrestion to bid or not. Other funds were from the sale of T-shirts and other various items. BTW, CRLady....thanks for the Steve Perry DVD you sold to me a few years ago...I still enjoy watching it....Oh, and what did you do with that money???? Just asking, after all its been eons ago.

Every year a picture of the donation check to MAW was posted on the main site forum for anyone who wanted to see it could. In 2008 a donation was not made...and it was stated as such on the forum...that since we had several items still open for sale at the time of the cut off date....that it would be held over till 2009. NO ONE made any complaints at that time.

The letter from MAW is legit....you can say its been duped...but really, that type of dupping requires some very expensive copy equipment and some expensive programs on top of it. I'm not poor...but I'd not want to spend that kind of money on such equipment just to have it in case I needed to prove something...would you????

As for the posting of the gentlemans name at MAW.....you all did that on your own. Should he not be happy.....that will be yours to deal with.

Be the proof fake or real in your opinion - I can't help you with that...it is what it is.


....I say again to the accuser(s). Where is your proof? YOU need to post what proof you have...so it can be disected like Kathy's.

[Deb]

LOL

People registering here should be aware that I have worked with computers and the internet for 15 years now and know my way around finding who is who as far as usernames and IP addresses etc...

So without futher ado, I unveil the identity of ForeverInBlue - Kathy Norris.

Case closed. Goodbye.

Kinda figured as much when I saw this post.........

I have no idea what the situation is with the closure of PV as I haven't been there since I got the boot a few years ago. But I do know that the owner of the site did make donations in Steve's name to Make-A-Wish in the past. Make-A-Wish would send Steve a note in the mail (in care of me) thanking him for the donation that was made in his name. I remember seeing these notifications a couple of times over the past years, but I don't recall seeing one for the last 2 years. Not sure on that, though.

God, I guess Lora is a liar too. You M fuckers need a life.

I was there the first time she called Lora a liar.......and being the upstanding christian woman she always claims to be she couldn't add the "mother" to the rest of her curse out.

[nolippin]

The gentleman's name is public information as the Donor Care manager of a charitable foundation.

No one needs to post anything here. They only need to make sure that it gets to the MAW Foundation and to the proper authorities.

As for the posting of the gentlemans name at MAW.....you all did that on your own. Should he not be happy.....that will be yours to deal with.

....I say again to the accuser(s). Where is your proof? YOU need to post what proof you have...so it can be disected like Kathy's.

[Clasicrockldy]

LOL

People registering here should be aware that I have worked with computers and the internet for 15 years now and know my way around finding who is who as far as usernames and IP addresses etc...

So without futher ado, I unveil the identity of ForeverInBlue - Kathy Norris.

Case closed. Goodbye.

Thank you Andrew!

[Ms.Nobody]

A few things hit my eye when viewing this MAWF document. (been in the financial buisness to long I guess)

MAWF was originated in 1980. It has won many awards for service to children. One would have to imagine that it's staff is fully aware of business dealings and HOW business is operated.

Note 1 - There is no date on this document. Therefore there would be no real authentication of the document. In a court of law, this would be unadmissable. ***Please note the stamp on the envelope does NOT authenticate the document. Being a donor to the MAWF myself, they do send out notices and newsletters several times throughout the year, so the envelope I am very skeptical about.***

Note 2 - Being a charitable organization, the accounting records must be stellar. The dates provided are NOT in chronological order. I am sure that a "donor care manager" would be much more proficient than this. I am sure that when a request like this comes along, a file, like any, would be pulled up and the chronological order of the file would be in front of you, not dates all over the place.

Note 3 - For someone who claims to have donated EVERY year, the year of 2008 is mysteriously missing.

Note 4 - The document is NOT signed by either the donor care manager nor an agent/secretary. This in itself is unusual, especially when it pertains to an accounting/money issue.

You are right about the tax deduction - she got a hefty one out of other's pockets. If anyone perhaps paid her through paypal and put on it that is was to be directed to the MAWF, perhaps the IRS should be contacted. She is not licensed as an agent for the MAWF.


Touching on the issue of "license". Did she have the authority, permission or any other legal consent from Steve Perry, his attorneys or agents to sell items with his name/face/likeness? Some how, some way, I just know that someone will answer this by saying "Lora knew all about it". Lora can not and will not be a scapegoat for this!

[Clasicrockldy]

n the $6 fee didn't pay for the entire site fee each year it was asked for.

The MAW money was garnered from the sale of some items via autions...which was the buyers discrestion to bid or not. Other funds were from the sale of T-shirts and other various items. BTW, CRLady....thanks for the Steve Perry DVD you sold to me a few years ago...I still enjoy watching it....Oh, and what did you do with that money???? Just asking, after all its been eons ago.

I never sold any of the Perry/Journey stuff that I have... I freely shared it with everyone who wanted it... you are just trying to sidetrack this thread into something else... not working!

[walkslikealady]

That surprised me...like another I thought if either was KN it was probably TBF. That's 'cause I don't normally call another woman a hag...usually call them an *itch.

[Playitloudforme]

The $6 was only charged for the past 2 years....and was only to help with the cost of the site since it was an AD FREE SITE. Kathy did bye many of the menbers for that fee that sent her a note or called with a financial prolem regarding the fee. Come on take $6 minus the PPal fee (which is how most ppl paid) and divide it by 365 days.....GET OVER IT. It's closed now and I can pretty much say what was collected in the $6 fee didn't pay for the entire site fee each year it was asked for.

Well... I ran a forumco site. It didn't cost me but $40 a month. I ran it for over 2 years. I understand the more hits you get, the more bandwidth, yada yada yada... but still. No one else has to charge. No one. And many are sites just as big as PV.

The MAW money was garnered from the sale of some items via autions...which was the buyers discrestion to bid or not. Other funds were from the sale of T-shirts and other various items.

. Auctions, not autions. However, was there an accounting made public to those that bid? That's what's in question.

Every year a picture of the donation check to MAW was posted on the main site forum for anyone who wanted to see it could. In 2008 a donation was not made...and it was stated as such on the forum...that since we had several items still open for sale at the time of the cut off date....that it would be held over till 2009. NO ONE made any complaints at that time.

. In 2008, perhaps. But one person did ask, and was banned upon the question. Its in this thread somewhere where it was mentioned. Asked why the photo for 2009 donations showed a 2007 check.

The letter from MAW is legit....you can say its been duped...but really, that type of dupping requires some very expensive copy equipment and some expensive programs on top of it. I'm not poor...but I'd not want to spend that kind of money on such equipment just to have it in case I needed to prove something...would you????

. Duping. And Equipment? Try Kinkos. Try a buck.

As for the posting of the gentlemans name at MAW.....you all did that on your own. Should he not be happy.....that will be yours to deal with.

. gentleman's. Anyway, I'm sure he'd want to know if there were misappropriations that were connected with the fund. We don't know. That's why he needed to be contacted. They now have the means by which to choose to contact him or not. Not my fight, not my call. But I'm sure there will be at least one or two who will.

Be the proof fake or real in your opinion - I can't help you with that...it is what it is.

No you can't. Only K can, and she should be upfront with the people that entrusted their hard earned money to show a full accounting of where the funds were deposited, how they were dispursed or used. That's what legitimate groups do.... they are accountable for their actions.

....I say again to the accuser(s). Where is your proof? YOU need to post what proof you have...so it can be disected like Kathy's.

Again... that's what we were going for... proof. I wasn't the one who whited out the name or delayed getting t-shirts out for over a year. June 29th they were ordered, and just now we see a picture of completed shirts. Two months later. She should perhaps get another vendor. That's an unacceptable in business. In any case, those that wish to pursue this further now can. But I still think a full accounting should be made available. That's a helluva lot of money.

[Andrew]

BTW - I also have the real identity of these other two newbies and will watch their future posts carefully.

[Playitloudforme]

A few things hit my eye when viewing this MAWF document. (been in the financial buisness to long I guess)

MAWF was originated in 1980. It has won many awards for service to children. One would have to imagine that it's staff is fully aware of business dealings and HOW business is operated.

Note 1 - There is no date on this document. Therefore there would be no real authentication of the document. In a court of law, this would be unadmissable. ***Please note the stamp on the envelope does NOT authenticate the document. Being a donor to the MAWF myself, they do send out notices and newsletters several times throughout the year, so the envelope I am very skeptical about.***

Note 2 - Being a charitable organization, the accounting records must be stellar. The dates provided are NOT in chronological order. I am sure that a "donor care manager" would be much more proficient than this. I am sure that when a request like this comes along, a file, like any, would be pulled up and the chronological order of the file would be in front of you, not dates all over the place.

Note 3 - For someone who claims to have donated EVERY year, the year of 2008 is mysteriously missing.

Note 4 - The document is NOT signed by either the donor care manager nor an agent/secretary. This in itself is unusual, especially when it pertains to an accounting/money issue.

You are right about the tax deduction - she got a hefty one out of other's pockets. If anyone perhaps paid her through paypal and put on it that is was to be directed to the MAWF, perhaps the IRS should be contacted. She is not licensed as an agent for the MAWF.


Touching on the issue of "license". Did she have the authority, permission or any other legal consent from Steve Perry, his attorneys or agents to sell items with his name/face/likeness? Some how, some way, I just know that someone will answer this by saying "Lora knew all about it". Lora can not and will not be a scapegoat for this!

You are so right. High five. Well noted!!!! Date missing (how'd I miss that!!??)... the chrono order, yup. No signature... DOH!

anyone smell anything? Are we in Denmark?

And the whole tax deduction thing really reaaaaalllly needs to be addressed.

BTW... the photo we are discussing has now been taken down.

[LyricalLady]

LOL

People registering here should be aware that I have worked with computers and the internet for 15 years now and know my way around finding who is who as far as usernames and IP addresses etc...

So without futher ado, I unveil the identity of ForeverInBlue - Kathy Norris.

Case closed. Goodbye.

Well...in that case, you now I am not Kathy...I live WAY south of her. I posted what I posted in hopes that reason would prevail...of course it hasn't...but as a friend I did try. I have done all that I can, the best way I could think of giving the limits of the net.

Take it....leave it....disect it till its so far from the point of my post it no longer pertains. Not everything you hear or see is what it seems. Many sides, many opinions.....he saids...she saids....I saids....you saids. In the reality of it all life won't stop just cause you're pissed.
I am dissapointed on many fronts, most of which that this thread was even allowed to get to the point that it has...I don't understand any of this...nor do I have any desire to from this point on.

I did what I did for a friend. I won't appologize. I have nothing further to say, it wouldn't matter anyway...y'all are gonna be pissy just because you can.

[Clasicrockldy]

LOL

People registering here should be aware that I have worked with computers and the internet for 15 years now and know my way around finding who is who as far as usernames and IP addresses etc...

So without futher ado, I unveil the identity of ForeverInBlue - Kathy Norris.

Case closed. Goodbye.

Well...in that case, you now I am not Kathy...I live WAY south of her. I posted what I posted in hopes that reason would prevail...of course it hasn't...but as a friend I did try. I have done all that I can, the best way I could think of giving the limits of the net.

Take it....leave it....disect it till its so far from the point of my post it no longer pertains. Not everything you hear or see is what it seems. Many sides, many opinions.....he saids...she saids....I saids....you saids. In the reality of it all life won't stop just cause you're pissed.
I am dissapointed on many fronts, most of which that this thread was even allowed to get to the point that it has...I don't understand any of this...nor do I have any desire to from this point on.

I did what I did for a friend. I won't appologize. I have nothing further to say, it wouldn't matter anyway...y'all are gonna be pissy just because you can.

No, not because they can.... they are pissed because things are not up front! Kathy hasn't given them an accounting of where their money went... nothing....and any website owner/operator worth their salt would of been open and up front with everything.. and the T-shirts... I wonder how long they have been sitting in her house? ....

And btw... Kathy just took off the pic with the letter on it.... she took it off because now she knows she has been found out...

[Clasicrockldy]

BTW - I also have the real identity of these other two newbies and will watch their future posts carefully.

Thank you for your vigilance, Andrew!

[nolippin]

During the time Kathy was in here herself posting as ForeverinBlue, she had the opportunity to present her side of things, but chose instead to hurl childish insults at people and try to get Andrew to close the thread. Think about that.

LOL

People registering here should be aware that I have worked with computers and the internet for 15 years now and know my way around finding who is who as far as usernames and IP addresses etc...

So without futher ado, I unveil the identity of ForeverInBlue - Kathy Norris.

Case closed. Goodbye.

Well...in that case, you now I am not Kathy...I live WAY south of her. I posted what I posted in hopes that reason would prevail...of course it hasn't...but as a friend I did try. I have done all that I can, the best way I could think of giving the limits of the net.

Take it....leave it....disect it till its so far from the point of my post it no longer pertains. Not everything you hear or see is what it seems. Many sides, many opinions.....he saids...she saids....I saids....you saids. In the reality of it all life won't stop just cause you're pissed.
I am dissapointed on many fronts, most of which that this thread was even allowed to get to the point that it has...I don't understand any of this...nor do I have any desire to from this point on.

I did what I did for a friend. I won't appologize. I have nothing further to say, it wouldn't matter anyway...y'all are gonna be pissy just because you can.

[nolippin]

LOL, yeah, like we all didn't copy the info. I'm sure those expensive duping pieces of equipment known as the screen capture function were working overtime.

[/quote]No, not because they can.... they are pissed because things are not up front! Kathy hasn't given them an accounting of where their money went... nothing....and any website owner/operator worth their salt would of been open and up front with everything.. and the T-shirts... I wonder how long they have been sitting in her house? ....

And btw... Kathy just took off the pic with the letter on it.... she took it off because now she knows she has been found out... [/quote]

[Ms.Nobody]

And btw... Kathy just took off the pic with the letter on it.... she took it off because now she knows she has been found out... [/b]

Also missing is the picture of the UN LICENSED Steve Perry tee's.

Fear not - they are still out there. Remember this is the internet!

[Playitloudforme]

26762 views. I think the word is out.

[Ftloperry]

Every year a picture of the donation check to MAW was posted on the main site forum for anyone who wanted to see it could. In 2008 a donation was not made...and it was stated as such on the forum...that since we had several items still open for sale at the time of the cut off date....that it would be held over till 2009. NO ONE made any complaints at that time.

Then why would a check dated for 2007 be posted as a 2009 donation on the main site?