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Postby Playitloudforme » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:06 am

Tarseea wrote:
Clasicrockldy wrote:Going on record here...

I have never sold any Perry/Journey dvd stuff... ever... I have no clue who this person is... :D


I can vouch for you you sent me 3 DVD's and I DIDN"T PAY ANYTHING FOR THEM.........Which reminds me I should pull them out and have a look...Thanks you again S :D


and I never took you up on any offers, but they were all free. Come to think on it, I've not paid ANYTHING for any of the Videos or DVDs I obtained, save for the official Journey dvd. Why, cause we kick ass. Fun and for free cause that's the way it should be.
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Postby Sarah » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:11 am

Playitloudforme wrote:So...an easy $6000 in, expenses to run the site were probably no more than $1200/month. I ran one (same company) with over 10 pages, tons of pics, plenty of traffic, and it only cost me $40 a month, so I'm being more than generous with my estimate.

Holy cow, my site only costs $30 a YEAR.

Btw you should factor in PayPal's fees, she probably got $5.50 a person. If a real case is being made you'll want to note that.
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:13 am

I believe that Kathy auctioned off stuff that I got for free from others.... saying the proceeds would go to MAW.... :D
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Postby Playitloudforme » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:17 am

Sarah wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:So...an easy $6000 in, expenses to run the site were probably no more than $1200/month. I ran one (same company) with over 10 pages, tons of pics, plenty of traffic, and it only cost me $40 a month, so I'm being more than generous with my estimate.

Holy cow, my site only costs $30 a YEAR.

Btw you should factor in PayPal's fees, she probably got $5.50 a person. If a real case is being made you'll want to note that.


omg.....

and my quote should read $1200/year..not month... je fais un boo-boo.
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Postby journeyrock » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:50 am

Playitloudforme wrote:Doing some more math here, cause that's what I do (analyst's brain).

annie89509 said in an earlier post that right after the WOF surprise, the PV Active Member list was over 1000 members. Lyrical stated that K couldn't keep up with the demand.

1000.

X $6.

That's 6000 GRAND. (easy math..whoo hooo... good...'cause I gotta headache with today's workload here at work).

Now... I KNOW no website is costing anyone $6000 to run a year. No way. I also would imagine that no refunds were given to that $6 fee if you say...didn't participate enough (cause for banishment I hear) or disagreement with the lord o' the manor. $6 per person whether you posted once or 100000 times in a year.

So...an easy $6000 in, expenses to run the site were probably no more than $1200/year. I ran one (same company) with over 10 pages, tons of pics, plenty of traffic, and it only cost me $40 a month, so I'm being more than generous with my estimate. So...where'd the other money go to? Were taxes filed under either her name or is Perryville a corporation?

Again... it still smells funky to me. I hope whomever is doing the investigating with the Feds uses all information they can get.

Where's an agent of the IRS when you NEED them???
Please don't shoot the messenger here, and I am not vouching for anyone. I have no clue as to what has gone on here, was not involved in the t-shirt thing, but was a former member of PV. and to be fair here, I DO know that the $6.00 membership did not begin until the re-opening of PV AFTER the whole Lora banning debacle. I don't remember when that was, but there weren't even 100 members on PV at that time. Just sayin...
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Postby Playitloudforme » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:54 am

journeyrock wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:Doing some more math here, cause that's what I do (analyst's brain).

annie89509 said in an earlier post that right after the WOF surprise, the PV Active Member list was over 1000 members. Lyrical stated that K couldn't keep up with the demand.

1000.

X $6.

That's 6000 GRAND. (easy math..whoo hooo... good...'cause I gotta headache with today's workload here at work).

Now... I KNOW no website is costing anyone $6000 to run a year. No way. I also would imagine that no refunds were given to that $6 fee if you say...didn't participate enough (cause for banishment I hear) or disagreement with the lord o' the manor. $6 per person whether you posted once or 100000 times in a year.

So...an easy $6000 in, expenses to run the site were probably no more than $1200/year. I ran one (same company) with over 10 pages, tons of pics, plenty of traffic, and it only cost me $40 a month, so I'm being more than generous with my estimate. So...where'd the other money go to? Were taxes filed under either her name or is Perryville a corporation?

Again... it still smells funky to me. I hope whomever is doing the investigating with the Feds uses all information they can get.

Where's an agent of the IRS when you NEED them???
Please don't shoot the messenger here, and I am not vouching for anyone. I have no clue as to what has gone on here, was not involved in the t-shirt thing, but was a former member of PV. and to be fair here, I DO know that the $6.00 membership did not begin until the re-opening of PV AFTER the whole Lora banning debacle. I don't remember when that was, but there weren't even 100 members on PV at that time. Just sayin...


Kinda getting polar opposite reports on this, so no matter. Still charging for something that everyone else did for free...
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Postby journeyrock » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:55 am

Playitloudforme wrote:
journeyrock wrote:
Playitloudforme wrote:Doing some more math here, cause that's what I do (analyst's brain).

annie89509 said in an earlier post that right after the WOF surprise, the PV Active Member list was over 1000 members. Lyrical stated that K couldn't keep up with the demand.

1000.

X $6.

That's 6000 GRAND. (easy math..whoo hooo... good...'cause I gotta headache with today's workload here at work).

Now... I KNOW no website is costing anyone $6000 to run a year. No way. I also would imagine that no refunds were given to that $6 fee if you say...didn't participate enough (cause for banishment I hear) or disagreement with the lord o' the manor. $6 per person whether you posted once or 100000 times in a year.

So...an easy $6000 in, expenses to run the site were probably no more than $1200/year. I ran one (same company) with over 10 pages, tons of pics, plenty of traffic, and it only cost me $40 a month, so I'm being more than generous with my estimate. So...where'd the other money go to? Were taxes filed under either her name or is Perryville a corporation?

Again... it still smells funky to me. I hope whomever is doing the investigating with the Feds uses all information they can get.

Where's an agent of the IRS when you NEED them???
Please don't shoot the messenger here, and I am not vouching for anyone. I have no clue as to what has gone on here, was not involved in the t-shirt thing, but was a former member of PV. and to be fair here, I DO know that the $6.00 membership did not begin until the re-opening of PV AFTER the whole Lora banning debacle. I don't remember when that was, but there weren't even 100 members on PV at that time. Just sayin...


Kinda getting polar opposite reports on this, so no matter. Still charging for something that everyone else did for free...
agreed!!
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Postby midnighthour » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:49 am

AWE can I have the full virsion of the avater????

OMG we want a total black kitten to match my total black cat that is so spoiled and loving......that pic is so funny but so scary..............any thoughts?
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Postby Andrew » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:14 am

For the record, this site actually costs around US$5000 a year to run...that includes a dedicated server in a secure istallation and enough bandwidth to cover 18,000 users a day (250,000+ unique users per month).

A small fortune, but a fan site could easily run for $20 or $30 or maybe $50 max a month.
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Postby Playitloudforme » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:16 am

Andrew wrote:For the record, this site actually costs around US$5000 a year to run...that includes a dedicated server in a secure istallation and enough bandwidth to cover 18,000 users a day (250,000+ unique users per month).

A small fortune, but a fan site could easily run for $20 or $30 or maybe $50 max a month.


Thanks for the perspective!
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Postby Anastasia Beaverhausen » Fri Aug 28, 2009 11:29 am

Playitloudforme wrote:Doing some more math here, cause that's what I do (analyst's brain).

annie89509 said in an earlier post that right after the WOF surprise, the PV Active Member list was over 1000 members. Lyrical stated that K couldn't keep up with the demand.

1000.

X $6.

That's 6000 GRAND. (easy math..whoo hooo... good...'cause I gotta headache with today's workload here at work).

Now... I KNOW no website is costing anyone $6000 to run a year. No way. I also would imagine that no refunds were given to that $6 fee if you say...didn't participate enough (cause for banishment I hear) or disagreement with the lord o' the manor. $6 per person whether you posted once or 100000 times in a year.

So...an easy $6000 in, expenses to run the site were probably no more than $1200/year. I ran one (same company) with over 10 pages, tons of pics, plenty of traffic, and it only cost me $40 a month, so I'm being more than generous with my estimate. So...where'd the other money go to? Were taxes filed under either her name or is Perryville a corporation?

Again... it still smells funky to me. I hope whomever is doing the investigating with the Feds uses all information they can get.

Where's an agent of the IRS when you NEED them???


I also took screenshots PV's member list before Kathy deleted the forum threads and I counted 107 active members.
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Postby garnold1965 » Fri Aug 28, 2009 12:38 pm

Yes Anastasia,you are correct.There was'nt that large a membership anymore.I guess thats why she got greedier.
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Postby walkslikealady » Fri Aug 28, 2009 1:19 pm

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Clasicrockldy wrote: Who is Allan C?



Allen C I believe worked for Journey and was a regular poster on the official Journey forum "Backtalk" when it was up and running. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. :D

We all need to work together and pull together if we're ever going to get action. The ball started rolling with garnold1965 and we need to keep the ball rolling if any action is going to bring results.....if you have info that could help then by all means pm garnold1965 and tell them what you know. We've all been burned and hurt and I for one would like to finally see closure come and see action finally come for all this wrong doing. This has gone on long enough. :twisted: 8)


You are correct but specifics are that he was Neal's guitar tech [at the time] and he would "speak for Mr. Perry" in confirming rumors about the "daughter" issue and such...even in open chat forums.....and he went on a personal crusade to get everyone selling merchandise of anything Journey including videos on ebay (VHS at the time) that are now all over youtube anyway. At the time I was a [stupid me] friend of the Kat that was also selling stuff (she got so much money off of selling copies of video's that belonged to her one time friend Lisa....hundreds of none claimed cash[hello IRS].....paid for her first trip here to my house when we went to SF and had dinner with Lora and Cindy.....remember?) and like the fool I was I allowed her to sic me on him and I did.....so in a nutshell.....we were doing message board wars and I told him he was going to get fired for this shit and hello....he got fired....and I made a post that basically kicked his ass while he was down and now I know how mean that was......that got the steve perry board on VH1 shut down cause all the idiots out there wouldn't let it go......It's just a post people

anyway u are also so correct that anyone involved or involved from the past.......need to make sure this gets to the people that can shut her down for good. I for one have a paraleagle team on this so if you need anything pm me please.....

PS...again Andrew you are the MAN!!!



Curious about something...did Kathy ask you to "go after" anyone else?
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Postby perryfaithful » Fri Aug 28, 2009 9:50 pm

walkslikealady wrote:
midnighthour wrote:
Ftloperry wrote:
Clasicrockldy wrote: Who is Allan C?



Allen C I believe worked for Journey and was a regular poster on the official Journey forum "Backtalk" when it was up and running. Anyone correct me if I am wrong. :D

We all need to work together and pull together if we're ever going to get action. The ball started rolling with garnold1965 and we need to keep the ball rolling if any action is going to bring results.....if you have info that could help then by all means pm garnold1965 and tell them what you know. We've all been burned and hurt and I for one would like to finally see closure come and see action finally come for all this wrong doing. This has gone on long enough. :twisted: 8)


You are correct but specifics are that he was Neal's guitar tech [at the time] and he would "speak for Mr. Perry" in confirming rumors about the "daughter" issue and such...even in open chat forums.....and he went on a personal crusade to get everyone selling merchandise of anything Journey including videos on ebay (VHS at the time) that are now all over youtube anyway. At the time I was a [stupid me] friend of the Kat that was also selling stuff (she got so much money off of selling copies of video's that belonged to her one time friend Lisa....hundreds of none claimed cash[hello IRS].....paid for her first trip here to my house when we went to SF and had dinner with Lora and Cindy.....remember?) and like the fool I was I allowed her to sic me on him and I did.....so in a nutshell.....we were doing message board wars and

I told him he was going to get fired for this shit and hello....he got fired....and I made a post that basically kicked his ass while he was down and now I know how mean that was......that got the steve perry board on VH1 shut down cause all the idiots out there wouldn't let it go......It's just a post people

anyway u are also so correct that anyone involved or involved from the past.......need to make sure this gets to the people that can shut her down for good. I for one have a paraleagle team on this so if you need anything pm me please.....

PS...again Andrew you are the MAN!!!



Curious about something...did Kathy ask you to "go after" anyone else?




WHat ever happened to that Lisa? She was the "co host" when I frequented PV and then she was gone. Is she still around?

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Postby whirlwind » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:05 am

I want to know what happened to Tree and if she is posting here, I'd like to see her picture with Perry at the "Star."
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Postby Anastasia Beaverhausen » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:09 am

whirlwind wrote:I want to know what happened to Tree and if she is posting here, I'd like to see her picture with Perry at the "Star."


Tree was still a member of PV when I took the screenshots of the member list. Or at least Kathy still kept her as a member. It says she was a member since Dec. 17, 2004 and that her last post was on June 20, 2008. She had racked up some numbers while she was posting. She had 11072 posts. I vaguely remember when Tree made her exit from PV. She made a farewell post but I don't remember the details.
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Postby whirlwind » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:24 am

Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote:
whirlwind wrote:I want to know what happened to Tree and if she is posting here, I'd like to see her picture with Perry at the "Star."


Tree was still a member of PV when I took the screenshots of the member list. Or at least Kathy still kept her as a member. It says she was a member since Dec. 17, 2004 and that her last post was on June 20, 2008. She had racked up some numbers while she was posting. She had 11072 posts. I vaguely remember when Tree made her exit from PV. She made a farewell post but I don't remember the details.




I can't believe that they gave her crap for sneaking a kiss on the cheek from Perry. They must have been jealous of that picture and the fact that she took advantage of her chance of a lifetime. It's the best picture of them all, imo.
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Postby Clasicrockldy » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:31 am

whirlwind wrote:
Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote:
whirlwind wrote:I want to know what happened to Tree and if she is posting here, I'd like to see her picture with Perry at the "Star."


Tree was still a member of PV when I took the screenshots of the member list. Or at least Kathy still kept her as a member. It says she was a member since Dec. 17, 2004 and that her last post was on June 20, 2008. She had racked up some numbers while she was posting. She had 11072 posts. I vaguely remember when Tree made her exit from PV. She made a farewell post but I don't remember the details.




I can't believe that they gave her crap for sneaking a kiss on the cheek from Perry. They must have been jealous of that picture and the fact that she took advantage of her chance of a lifetime. It's the best picture of them all, imo.


Who gave her crap about the kiss. whirlwind? I left sometime after all the shite that went on on the site... so I don't know what happened... :D
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Postby whirlwind » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:39 am

Clasicrockldy wrote:
whirlwind wrote:
Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote:
whirlwind wrote:I want to know what happened to Tree and if she is posting here, I'd like to see her picture with Perry at the "Star."


Tree was still a member of PV when I took the screenshots of the member list. Or at least Kathy still kept her as a member. It says she was a member since Dec. 17, 2004 and that her last post was on June 20, 2008. She had racked up some numbers while she was posting. She had 11072 posts. I vaguely remember when Tree made her exit from PV. She made a farewell post but I don't remember the details.




I can't believe that they gave her crap for sneaking a kiss on the cheek from Perry. They must have been jealous of that picture and the fact that she took advantage of her chance of a lifetime. It's the best picture of them all, imo.


Who gave her crap about the kiss. whirlwind? I left sometime after all the shite that went on on the site... so I don't know what happened... :D



Some one here, in another thread said that she didn't ask him if she could kiss him and that he looked shocked. Bull!
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Postby Peartree12249 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:40 am

Haven't you folks pretty much beaten this horse to a bloody pulp yet? Yeah the woman was a lying, cheating, manipulative, conniving bitch. But 28 pages! Really? Time to move on. IMO She doesn't deserve that much of your time or attention. Just sayin... :roll: :wink:
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Postby whirlwind » Sat Aug 29, 2009 8:49 am

Peartree12249 wrote:Haven't you folks pretty much beaten this horse to a bloody pulp yet? Yeah the woman was a lying, cheating, manipulative, conniving bitch. But 28 pages! Really? Time to move on. IMO She doesn't deserve that much of your time or attention. Just sayin... :roll: :wink:




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Postby Tarseea » Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:11 am

whirlwind wrote:
Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote:
whirlwind wrote:I want to know what happened to Tree and if she is posting here, I'd like to see her picture with Perry at the "Star."


Tree was still a member of PV when I took the screenshots of the member list. Or at least Kathy still kept her as a member. It says she was a member since Dec. 17, 2004 and that her last post was on June 20, 2008. She had racked up some numbers while she was posting. She had 11072 posts. I vaguely remember when Tree made her exit from PV. She made a farewell post but I don't remember the details.




I can't believe that they gave her crap for sneaking a kiss on the cheek from Perry. They must have been jealous of that picture and the fact that she took advantage of her chance of a lifetime. It's the best picture of them all, imo.


Wait a minute who ever told you that Tree got crap for kissing Steve on the cheek is a dame LIER........I was THERE no one said anything to her about it and the truth is Tree wasn't the only one who kissed Steve on the cheek.....No I didn't kiss him I was happy with the hugs. LET'S GET THE FACT'S STRAIGHT PLEASE
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Postby JasonD » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:02 am

whirlwind wrote:
Peartree12249 wrote:Haven't you folks pretty much beaten this horse to a bloody pulp yet? Yeah the woman was a lying, cheating, manipulative, conniving bitch. But 28 pages! Really? Time to move on. IMO She doesn't deserve that much of your time or attention. Just sayin... :roll: :wink:



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Postby whirlwind » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:21 am

Tarseea wrote:
whirlwind wrote:
Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote:
whirlwind wrote:I want to know what happened to Tree and if she is posting here, I'd like to see her picture with Perry at the "Star."


Tree was still a member of PV when I took the screenshots of the member list. Or at least Kathy still kept her as a member. It says she was a member since Dec. 17, 2004 and that her last post was on June 20, 2008. She had racked up some numbers while she was posting. She had 11072 posts. I vaguely remember when Tree made her exit from PV. She made a farewell post but I don't remember the details.




I can't believe that they gave her crap for sneaking a kiss on the cheek from Perry. They must have been jealous of that picture and the fact that she took advantage of her chance of a lifetime. It's the best picture of them all, imo.


Wait a minute who ever told you that Tree got crap for kissing Steve on the cheek is a dame LIER........I was THERE no one said anything to her about it and the truth is Tree wasn't the only one who kissed
Steve on the cheek.....No I didn't kiss him I was happy with the hugs. LET'S GET THE FACT'S STRAIGHT PLEASE





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Yeah you had to be there to see his reaction to both and he looked rather unconfortable with Tree but his picture with Jill is priceless
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Postby walkslikealady » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:24 am

Maybe some should start their own free website so that they can discuss the happenings and what they can prove.
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Postby whirlwind » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:39 am

[quote="walkslikealady"]Maybe some should start their own free website so that they can discuss the happenings and what they can prove.[/quote'



That's not worth 2 cents nor even a penny for your thoughts.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:44 am

*stands up & shouts*

"I'M NOT KATHY'S TREE!!!!!"

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Postby Babyblue » Sat Aug 29, 2009 10:45 am

treetopovskaya wrote:*stands up & shouts*

"I'M NOT KATHY'S TREE!!!!!"

}:C)


Well now that is good to know.heeehee I never thought you was but others may have.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:01 am

Babyblue wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:*stands up & shouts*

"I'M NOT KATHY'S TREE!!!!!"

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Well now that is good to know.heeehee I never thought you was but others may have.


i joined pv way after their star trip. }:C)
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Postby Peartree12249 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:08 am

JasonD wrote:
whirlwind wrote:
Peartree12249 wrote:Haven't you folks pretty much beaten this horse to a bloody pulp yet? Yeah the woman was a lying, cheating, manipulative, conniving bitch. But 28 pages! Really? Time to move on. IMO She doesn't deserve that much of your time or attention. Just sayin... :roll: :wink:



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I can't believe I wrote that.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FhndWwWt8I :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: :shock:


Glad somone around here has a sense of humor. :wink:
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