Perry Tribute Site Bites The Dust

[bluejeangirl76]

Makes you wonder about all those other "donations" doesn't it?

What about her "second skins" namely her other administrators and moderators. I wonder what their take was if any. Kathy just may be so greedy that she wouldn't share. I would think the other admins of the site are just as responsible in some cases.

Believe me, you don't get a stunning figure like that by passing round the cookies.

Omg. You guys are taking shots that even *I* won't touch, and I'm the michief-maker.
Had drama with that place once, don't wish to enter into it again. So not worth it.
Doesn't take much at all to raise thier ire.

[Ms.Nobody]

Makes you wonder about all those other "donations" doesn't it?

What about her "second skins" namely her other administrators and moderators. I wonder what their take was if any. Kathy just may be so greedy that she wouldn't share. I would think the other admins of the site are just as responsible in some cases.

Believe me, you don't get a stunning figure like that by passing round the cookies.

Kinda a cheap shot there hero. Everyone has their "issues", whether they be weighty, I mean physical or mental.
My statement was based on whether any of the admins or mods knew what she was up to. My guess is yes.

[Ms.Nobody]

Makes you wonder about all those other "donations" doesn't it?

What about her "second skins" namely her other administrators and moderators. I wonder what their take was if any. Kathy just may be so greedy that she wouldn't share. I would think the other admins of the site are just as responsible in some cases.

You could be right. The other admins must have known something was going on and if they knew then they are just as guilty as she is. Guilt by association.

That is a good question.I wonder if they know anything or did she just keep it to herself??

BB I think some of them did know. There was someone earlier saying that as fast as a post was made, it was being deleted. K couldnt have been running a con like that all on her own with out someone cleaning up the fecal matter behind her.

I am sure the bottom line will be about some drama that she can come up with that makes her look like the lost lamb.

[Ftloperry]

I'm the michief-maker.

Mischief-maker you BJG........

Ms. Nobody you are right....no one could pull off a con like that for so long without some help to clean the mess that was always left behind.

[Anastasia Beaverhausen]

I got my shirt in the mail today. Like someone said earlier, she is scrambling to cover her ass.

Now, if I could just figure out how to remove that Perryville logo and web address from the shirt.

[Babyblue]

Makes you wonder about all those other "donations" doesn't it?

What about her "second skins" namely her other administrators and moderators. I wonder what their take was if any. Kathy just may be so greedy that she wouldn't share. I would think the other admins of the site are just as responsible in some cases.

You could be right. The other admins must have known something was going on and if they knew then they are just as guilty as she is. Guilt by association.

That is a good question.I wonder if they know anything or did she just keep it to herself??

BB I think some of them did know. There was someone earlier saying that as fast as a post was made, it was being deleted. K couldnt have been running a con like that all on her own with out someone cleaning up the fecal matter behind her.

I am sure the bottom line will be about some drama that she can come up with that makes her look like the lost lamb.

That is sad to know that others may have been helping here too.How can you live with yourself knowing you toook money that was to go MAW.It takes a really sick person to do that.

[Babyblue]

I got my shirt in the mail today. Like someone said earlier, she is scrambling to cover her ass.

Now, if I could just figure out how to remove that Perryville logo and web address from the shirt.

Well she is running scard now trying to get them all out.But she is in big trouble this time.I would not want to be her.But i would never do the sick things she has done.I knew that one day it would come back and bite her in the butt.

[midnighthour]

Makes you wonder about all those other "donations" doesn't it?

What about her "second skins" namely her other administrators and moderators. I wonder what their take was if any. Kathy just may be so greedy that she wouldn't share. I would think the other admins of the site are just as responsible in some cases.

wow some good thoughts

trying to jar some memories so feedback is needed: (sorry loooong post....read with coffee breaks)

so I can only speak for when she first started PV....no one including myself, Chris (we both paid for the first years of the PV message board and were her first so called mods and had "so called" full admin rights ....NOT....even though we paid we put it all in her name 1st stupid zombies of the kat we were) or Lisa knew how much money she was making.

We knew she was selling stuff of course because of the store on the actual site but never how much she was making off of it and the first round of t-shirts that I talked about in a past post were just total profit to her as was all store stuff. We never knew anything except that she was selling and at the time she admitted it paid for her first trip to CA (and all her expenses) and Lisa's ticket also (just the ticket...not expenses, yet as I said before all the first merchandise she sold was from Lisa) and that was to visit me and have dinner in SF with lora and cindy.

OH side note to the person who asked....we were not forbidden to talk about our trip...just Lora wanted pics of our driver's licenses and the make, model and color of my car that we were driving up in....clueless why but I say she thought stalkers lol.....and hindsite 20/20...don't blame her If the kat said we were not allowed to talk about it...she lied...as always and there was alot to talk about....She told us that LORA said not to talk about it...control kitty.

The kat started collecting money for charity for steve's b-day cause she lost us that made the two poems in the newspaper blah blah and to compete with the UOSPFC in the save the music thing.....then it changed to the make a wish so you all need to fill in those blanks (cause she made the board private at that point so I couldn't read the bs anymore and post about it on perrytales) but I doubt any admins knew about where the money was going....I may be wrong.....but some of you are here so back yourselves up.

This B+itch has been pocketing money for at least 8 yrs and she's in big trouble now. I don't care about the t-shirts cause she took money over the internet .....breaking interstate commerce lines.....for what ever and all was not her's to keep...period. All the money from just her "store" was illegal and taking money for charity and not turning it in.....ON TIME.... that is FEDERAL...so she can do whatever after the fact...it don't change.....it was the fact that she took that money....I bet used it to pay for her trip to the WOF and then couldn't redeem it soon enough so she ran.....and where the hell is the money?

not to talk big (I said I had peeps to talk to so put action to words) but I do have some legal "opinions" of what to do (and a lawyer that is very interested in this on a contingency basis) but it depends on you all that gave money for whatever.....legit or not in your minds....to come forward in public or private....if you want something done on a grand scale (you might change internet laws here)....not a joke....but if you roll over and say oh who cares then she wins and will get away with it yet again. And she will be back then stronger then ever. She's won this game for 8 years that I know of.....I'm willing to go the distance to stop her now...

ok push has come to shove....enough talk....let's do....I'm waiting to pounce. If we have 30 or more complaints and that is just an email saying yes I bought stuff from her or sent money to her....period....then we got a class action law suit....but if not...then it's up to us that want to to go forward.

PS...it only takes one complaint....that's me.....the more the better...Kat...reading this...I challenge you to the bitter end (u in a big fine and having to hire a lawyer period will break you..Finally we're going to court or at least you'll be served.....here kitty kitty)..sorry u know she reads so that's for her as are all my PM's that I think are from her lol....we'll see.

thanks for reading

[walkslikealady]

Sounds like Kathy is a real piece of work...her less-than-classy responses to people show some nastiness.

Please, though, don't insult my beloved kitties/cats by calling her "kitty".

[midnighthour]

Sounds like Kathy is a real piece of work...her less-than-classy responses to people show some nastiness.

Please, though, don't insult my beloved kitties/cats by calling her "kitty".

oh glad you brought that up....notice I call her Kat....Kitty...that is a personal thawp that she hates cause it refers back to her first getting caught by me and Lisa......and just the way a cat stalks it's prey but a smarter cat can catch her.

I have a beautiful cat...black and she runs this house.....so no slurs to cats....just Kats (Kathy)

[CatEyes]

but a smarter cat can catch her.

Remember Hurricane Amber?

I am one of the two people who bought the board back, and as you said, like an idiot, put everything in her name.

There were many lessons learned over the next couple of years.

Cat

[Babyblue]

but a smarter cat can catch her.

Remember Hurricane Amber?

I am one of the two people who bought the board back, and as you said, like an idiot, put everything in her name.

There were many lessons learned over the next couple of years.

Cat

Cat i remember that hon.We were all dumb back them.I know she has done so much to others and it's all worng.When she closed it down Cat started a super site and we got to vent about her.And boy did we ever do that.But that is in the past.All she did was read my pm's so i am one of the lucky ones.And i have said i talked to her on the phone.She can talk a good game i tell you.She had me again till a dear frind asked me not to go back.That was the best thing that could have happened to me.It's hard telling what she would have done then.

[Playitloudforme]

I find it so sad that her donation start was to COMPETE with Gini's site... not for Steve, not for kids, not for the charity..

but a fuckin' competition. What a piece of work. Sorry... I think I'm throwing up now.

[Babyblue]

I find it so sad that her donation start was to COMPETE with Gini's site... not for Steve, not for kids, not for the charity..

but a fuckin' competition. What a piece of work. Sorry... I think I'm throwing up now.

I agree it just plain sucks

[Lora]

OH side note to the person who asked....we were not forbidden to talk about our trip...just Lora wanted pics of our driver's licenses and the make, model and color of my car that we were driving up in....clueless why but I say she thought stalkers lol.....and hindsite 20/20...don't blame her If the kat said we were not allowed to talk about it...she lied...as always and there was alot to talk about....She told us that LORA said not to talk about it...control kitty.

WTH are you talking about? A bunch of fans were coming to SF and wanted to go eat with CP & I. That was something I did all the time back then, regardless of who was coming. I don't tell people afterwords that they can't talk about it. That is insane. Kathy might have given that impression to the people who were there, but I did not say it. Period.

This thread has brought a bunch of so-called good Samaritans out of the woodwork. I suspect these are some of the same people who were encouraging Kathy in her behavior with the hopes of getting close to Steve. Now it's a pile-on, gang mentality about how everyone was her victim.

Bottomline. Leave me out of this.

[Marabelle]

I am just tired of this entire thread. What is this? Everyone just coming to complain about one thing or another and it always leads to KN. Maybe it does; maybe it doesn't. And I know I can just ignore the thread; read another one; go to another site; but I think we are getting to be a bit obsessive and just being angry enough to throw another log on the "complaint" fire. If something was going to be done I'd hope by now one of the complainers would have done it; if not then please for the love of whomever just stop already. It just sounds silly at this point. We sound like a bunch of whining birds who are sitting up in the tree in branches and causing a ruckus. There has to be better things to talk about besides the KN mess. Or, just send in a post about what has been done and who got charged and when the court date is scheduled.

[Playitloudforme]

I think I need to disagree.

There were a shitload of people used and abused by this person. As we've heard, if you dared speak up on her site, you were gagged (aka banned). At least here, those that were hurt by her can vocalize it. Who am I to say don't talk about it, if they were hurt? And as we've seen by others that have posted, many had NO CLUE as to the lengths of the problems associated with her.

At least here, there are no muzzles. Some have to talk about it, it's how they will heal from it, by letting others know what happened to them, so that the mistakes don't repeat (hopefully). It can't and won't save everyone, but if it can help someone, great.

If you are done with the topic, start another. Some here aren't done yet. There was a lot of hurt, so there's going to be a lot of talk about it.

[Marabelle]

Yes, I understand. She got me maybe 2 or 3 times til I got sick of getting kicked out of the place. I might have lost a few dollars. She did me wrong. I guess I'm saying it just sounds like there's no end of it! Is there an end to it?

[Playitloudforme]

Yes, I understand. She got me maybe 2 or 3 times til I got sick of getting kicked out of the place. I might have lost a few dollars. She did me wrong. I guess I'm saying it just sounds like there's no end of it! Is there an end to it?

Excellent question.

[SP Fan in Oregon]

I think all of you owe a lot of thanks and gratitude to Andrew for providing a place for you all to
verbalize freely, without getting the thread locked. There have been a lot of things said here
about this, some very angry venting. I hope that the result of your discussion will lead to
closure for all of you. I also hope that one or more of you are following through with reporting to authorities
on the money paid for MAWF, that appears to have never made it to MAWF. That's the real tragedy
here. Talking about all this is one thing, but actually doing something about it is quite another. You
are all organized here in this thread. You can use that organization to now provide each other with proof
of your donations and then confirmation whether that money, in that year donated, was ever received by MAWF.
Keep your eye on the ball. Don't get mad, just get even. and Oh, leave Lora out of it.

[midnighthour]

but a smarter cat can catch her.

Remember Hurricane Amber?

I am one of the two people who bought the board back, and as you said, like an idiot, put everything in her name.

There were many lessons learned over the next couple of years.

Cat

oh so glad you remember cause yes we caused hurricane amber and that was a warning to her that Chris was shutting it down (Chris owned the board at that point) and she ignored it. the Amber thing was a reference back to the PV playground and that was Chris's character name. See we even warned her but the kat don't listen.

She tried to fight back and shut us down for a day (not legal) but the great thing is (andrew can agree) servers keep logs and we made him look up the ip of the person that broke in and it was her. So after much ado about it Patrick (remember him from forumco?) had to allow her back if she said sorry in writing. Her sorry was about as real as her and that meant diddly to us but her board got back up and then it was really war...sorry you were sorta caught in the middle....and thank goodness those days are over and we all are out of the spell....hypnokitty

[CatEyes]

but a smarter cat can catch her.

Remember Hurricane Amber?

I am one of the two people who bought the board back, and as you said, like an idiot, put everything in her name.

There were many lessons learned over the next couple of years.

Cat

oh so glad you remember cause yes we caused hurricane amber and that was a warning to her that Chris was shutting it down (Chris owned the board at that point) and she ignored it. the Amber thing was a reference back to the PV playground and that was Chris's character name. See we even warned her but the kat don't listen.

She tried to fight back and shut us down for a day (not legal) but the great thing is (andrew can agree) servers keep logs and we made him look up the ip of the person that broke in and it was her. So after much ado about it Patrick (remember him from forumco?) had to allow her back if she said sorry in writing. Her sorry was about as real as her and that meant diddly to us but her board got back up and then it was really war...sorry you were sorta caught in the middle....and thank goodness those days are over and we all are out of the spell....hypnokitty

Yes I remember the night she haacked into your forum - she was so proud - I went balistic on her - it reflected so poorly on the good people who were trying to keep Perryville afloat in spite of her.

I practically had to beat the apology out of her and write it for her using her own blood!!

Padrick allowed the forum back, however she personally was banned for months by forumco.

She is such a loser.

Cat

[midnighthour]

OH side note to the person who asked....we were not forbidden to talk about our trip...just Lora wanted pics of our driver's licenses and the make, model and color of my car that we were driving up in....clueless why but I say she thought stalkers lol.....and hindsite 20/20...don't blame her If the kat said we were not allowed to talk about it...she lied...as always and there was alot to talk about....She told us that LORA said not to talk about it...control kitty.

WTH are you talking about? A bunch of fans were coming to SF and wanted to go eat with CP & I. That was something I did all the time back then, regardless of who was coming. I don't tell people afterwords that they can't talk about it. That is insane. Kathy might have given that impression to the people who were there, but I did not say it. Period.

This thread has brought a bunch of so-called good Samaritans out of the woodwork. I suspect these are some of the same people who were encouraging Kathy in her behavior with the hopes of getting close to Steve. Now it's a pile-on, gang mentality about how everyone was her victim.

Bottomline. Leave me out of this.

sorry Lora it was just to explain a question about those times. Not that you said or made us do anything personally.....but to point out what Kathy told us and made us do before we went there and had dinner with you and after. She always acted like she was a personal friend of yours that's all so we went along with anything....we were stupid.

[Ms.Nobody]

OH side note to the person who asked....we were not forbidden to talk about our trip...just Lora wanted pics of our driver's licenses and the make, model and color of my car that we were driving up in....clueless why but I say she thought stalkers lol.....and hindsite 20/20...don't blame her If the kat said we were not allowed to talk about it...she lied...as always and there was alot to talk about....She told us that LORA said not to talk about it...control kitty.

WTH are you talking about? A bunch of fans were coming to SF and wanted to go eat with CP & I. That was something I did all the time back then, regardless of who was coming. I don't tell people afterwords that they can't talk about it. That is insane. Kathy might have given that impression to the people who were there, but I did not say it. Period.

This thread has brought a bunch of so-called good Samaritans out of the woodwork. I suspect these are some of the same people who were encouraging Kathy in her behavior with the hopes of getting close to Steve. Now it's a pile-on, gang mentality about how everyone was her victim.

Bottomline. Leave me out of this.

Funny, I have seen many people defend you and CP in this thread, even to the point to make sure that everyone understood that you had no real connection to her and her "ideas".

The sad thing is Lora, that there are others who believed KN and her stories about her relationship with you and Steve. These are the people that left with a "bad taste" in their mouths for SP. Like I have said before, you only have a small amount of knowledge of what went on there due to what she ALLOWED you to see. Fact is, she did just as much damage to your name as she did SP's.

As for your victim statement, when you pay for something, you expect to see it. When you donate money to a charity, you are donating to help those in need. This didnt happen. The people who donated and the charities ARE the victims. To say they are not is a shame.

Funny, no one seems to want to answer a question I have asked several times. This time I will highlight it and perhaps it might get answered.

Did KN have the licence/authority/permission of Steve Perry, his attorneys or agents to manufacture or sell anything with Steve Perry's name/face/likeness?

Perhaps this is a question that makes some uncomfortable.

[midnighthour]

OH side note to the person who asked....we were not forbidden to talk about our trip...just Lora wanted pics of our driver's licenses and the make, model and color of my car that we were driving up in....clueless why but I say she thought stalkers lol.....and hindsite 20/20...don't blame her If the kat said we were not allowed to talk about it...she lied...as always and there was alot to talk about....She told us that LORA said not to talk about it...control kitty.

WTH are you talking about? A bunch of fans were coming to SF and wanted to go eat with CP & I. That was something I did all the time back then, regardless of who was coming. I don't tell people afterwords that they can't talk about it. That is insane. Kathy might have given that impression to the people who were there, but I did not say it. Period.

This thread has brought a bunch of so-called good Samaritans out of the woodwork. I suspect these are some of the same people who were encouraging Kathy in her behavior with the hopes of getting close to Steve. Now it's a pile-on, gang mentality about how everyone was her victim.

Bottomline. Leave me out of this.

Funny, I have seen many people defend you and CP in this thread, even to the point to make sure that everyone understood that you had no real connection to her and her "ideas".

The sad thing is Lora, that there are others who believed KN and her stories about her relationship with you and Steve. These are the people that left with a "bad taste" in their mouths for SP. Like I have said before, you only have a small amount of knowledge of what went on there due to what she ALLOWED you to see. Fact is, she did just as much damage to your name as she did SP's.

As for your victim statement, when you pay for something, you expect to see it. When you donate money to a charity, you are donating to help those in need. This didnt happen. The people who donated and the charities ARE the victims. To say they are not is a shame.

Funny, no one seems to want to answer a question I have asked several times. This time I will highlight it and perhaps it might get answered.

Did KN have the licence/authority/permission of Steve Perry, his attorneys or agents to manufacture or sell anything with Steve Perry's name/face/likeness?

Perhaps this is a question that makes some uncomfortable.

AWESOME and thanks to those that agree this is not a joke nor a "oh poor me" thing thread. She's been playing both sides of the fence for too long and the sick twisted women is GREAT at it.

Thank you Andrew for letting this go on!

Did I get burned yes....because I trust people and she took advantage of me....am I PISSED and venting....YES...but as someone said (with that awesome avatar of the two fighting cats) it is closure...at least for me....FINALLY the missing pieces of the puzzle are being filled in for me and I want to thank EVERYONE for coming out and stating what happened to them. Am I just as sick and twisted...maybe but I just think at this point Ryan Seacreast needs to make a reality show about this ...Keeping up with the Kat Fights...hummm?

I for one will say NO she did NOT have any such permission and she KNOWS it! She used to joke with us about how she can't wait for SP and the Perry Police to show up on her doorstep cause then she could finally meet him.

I am not a victim nor a good Samaritan ....I want the women gone for good and I am doing something about it.....I was just so puzzled and curious about all that went on back then. I am fully responsible for my stupidity but that doesn't mean she get's away with hers.

She loves this drama...but it's not drama now..it's real people with real feelings...right or wrong.

[Ftloperry]

This woman has prayed on fans for 8 years and for all those 8 years has gotten away with it. That woman has told so many lies and people believed her because she professed she was their ONLY line to Steve himself. It's sad that someone would feel it was okay to use fans of a very much loved and respected celebrity to give herself an income and cheat a wonderful charity in the process.

Fans were hurt and deeply scared by her actions and some fans I know no longer will support anything Steve or Journey related and that is so sad because some of those people were true dedicate fans that loved the music. Andrew has been very gracious to let this thread stay and giving members of PV past or present a chance to vent. Sometimes letting it all go is the start of the healing process.

I too have been used and abused by her and I for one want it all to stop and to stop it we need to stop her so that she can not ever do this again to anyone. She thought she was GOD and hide behind that to make what she did right and it was wrong on all levels. I know that some are tired of the rants on this thread and some might wish it would stop or die down but until something is done how can it ever die and be gone? How can people ever be able to move on knowing in the back of their minds that she is still out there somewhere just waiting to come back to try and destroy all of us that are now speaking. Trust me if she is not stopped she will come back.

I don't mean any disrespect to anyone I just want harmony to come again on all Steve Perry and Journey fan sites and this will never happen if something is not done. Please let's all work together.

[Marabelle]

Very graciously and sincerely spoken. I suppose it is just overwhelming to me all the terrible things she has done to so many people. There seems to be no end to her misdeeds. This thread will go on and on until the last person has spoken and I still don't think that people will feel she has got what is coming to her. I agree she will come back. Again and again until she has satisfied herself by resurrecting her image (the best way she knows how) and bringing together people who will support her come hell or high water. I don't know how she will do it; but knowing KN she will find away as she always does. (I never knew her but I always had a good sense what kind of person she was and treaded carefully!)

[Deb]

This woman has prayed on fans for 8 years and for all those 8 years has gotten away with it. That woman has told so many lies and people believed her because she professed she was their ONLY line to Steve himself. It's sad that someone would feel it was okay to use fans of a very much loved and respected celebrity to give herself an income and cheat a wonderful charity in the process.

Fans were hurt and deeply scared by her actions and some fans I know no longer will support anything Steve or Journey related and that is so sad because some of those people were true dedicate fans that loved the music. Andrew has been very gracious to let this thread stay and giving members of PV past or present a chance to vent. Sometimes letting it all go is the start of the healing process.

I too have been used and abused by her and I for one want it all to stop and to stop it we need to stop her so that she can not ever do this again to anyone. She thought she was GOD and hide behind that to make what she did right and it was wrong on all levels. I know that some are tired of the rants on this thread and some might wish it would stop or die down but until something is done how can it ever die and be gone? How can people ever be able to move on knowing in the back of their minds that she is still out there somewhere just waiting to come back to try and destroy all of us that are now speaking. Trust me if she is not stopped she will come back.

I don't mean any disrespect to anyone I just want harmony to come again on all Steve Perry and Journey fan sites and this will never happen if something is not done. Please let's all work together.

I'll have to disagree with you there, if they were turned off Perry or Journey because of Kathy's actions, how dedicated of a fan of the music were they? Kathy's actions are her own, and in no way should reflect badly on Mr P (or Lora and Cyndy for that matter). Kathy/her actions have left a sour taste in my mouth regarding Perry fan sites, but in no way affects my fandom of the music/singer.

[Lora]

Funny, I have seen many people defend you and CP in this thread, even to the point to make sure that everyone understood that you had no real connection to her and her "ideas".

The sad thing is Lora, that there are others who believed KN and her stories about her relationship with you and Steve. These are the people that left with a "bad taste" in their mouths for SP. Like I have said before, you only have a small amount of knowledge of what went on there due to what she ALLOWED you to see. Fact is, she did just as much damage to your name as she did SP's.

As for your victim statement, when you pay for something, you expect to see it. When you donate money to a charity, you are donating to help those in need. This didnt happen. The people who donated and the charities ARE the victims. To say they are not is a shame.

Funny, no one seems to want to answer a question I have asked several times. This time I will highlight it and perhaps it might get answered.

Did KN have the licence/authority/permission of Steve Perry, his attorneys or agents to manufacture or sell anything with Steve Perry's name/face/likeness?

Perhaps this is a question that makes some uncomfortable.

You have no idea what I do or do not know regarding Kathy, so I wouldn't presume anything. If someone purchases a bootleg t-shirt from an unofficial artist fan site, that person is taking a risk. Making a donation to a charity through someone running a fan site who offers no accounting information on the donations is also risky. No one is arguing the point that Kathy took advantage of people who trusted her. I think that has been established and those people can and should take action.

And who would you like to answer your question? The answer is quite obvious. So now this is SP's fault because he didn't have his attorney's on this? And people aren't fans of his music anymore because some fan ripped them off?

[HERO]

Makes you wonder about all those other "donations" doesn't it?

What about her "second skins" namely her other administrators and moderators. I wonder what their take was if any. Kathy just may be so greedy that she wouldn't share. I would think the other admins of the site are just as responsible in some cases.

Believe me, you don't get a stunning figure like that by passing round the cookies.

Kinda a cheap shot there hero. Everyone has their "issues", whether they be weighty, I mean physical or mental.
My statement was based on whether any of the admins or mods knew what she was up to. My guess is yes.

And you accuse me of a cheap shot?
That woman, being the fine upstanding christian that she is, has called me far worse. I think that she is getting off lightly. Someone may need to explain the concept of lightness to her. She has hurt so many people, both fiends of mine and those who are strangers to me. I would defend them all, and their right to say whatever they please about KN. It is my hope that by exposing her here for the fraud and charlatan that she obviously is others in the future may be spared what many of us have gone through.

As a matter of fact my previous comment was more in agreement with you regarding her greed, than about any "issues" she may have, weighty or otherwise.