When will Steve answer our emails?

[escapefan]

And what would he sound like at 62 years of age? Time does march on even for Steve Perry.

[Saint John]

Do you know what they recommend for singers who suffer from vocal fatigue or other afflictions of the vocal cords? Silence.
Or, depending on how bad the "burn" is, it may even require surgery, treatment and a long period of vocal inactivity. After that there is something called recovery. Then training to get the cords back in shape. Have you ever thought that maybe SP's "retirement" was actually treatment and recovery time? And that's just strictly about the voice. He may have had other business to take care of while being "retired".

Anyway, the man spilled his lungs on the stage for years. He was an intense singer, he didn't half-assed anything. No, not even on the ROR tour. Speeding through songs doesn't mean less intense singing. Eliminating songs doesn't mean less singing either, it just means being smart enough to protect an overused voice.

As for you saying he can't sing now...again - you assume something and present it as ironclad proof. You're smart enough to know the difference between the 2 notions. So...until proof it's going to be out there you can't possible know for sure if his voice is good or bad.

Btw, he was quite good on David Pack's album and that was only a few years ago.

Pack's album did NOT have Steve Perry's raw voice on it. That thing was enhanced and fucked with to no end!

Anyway, moving right along here ...


Dangerous Shortcuts

Stroud (Adam Lambert's vocal coach) says there are times when even the best singers may need medical help to get through a show, but this can have a downside. "Steroids are very much like shooting up a football player with anesthesia when they have a torn ligament or broken bone. They're able to go out and run, because they don't feel it, but they do more damage," he insists. "These medications need to be combined with good technique."

Stroud warns that singers can use these treatments as an easy out: "They think, 'Wow, I didn't have to do any work for that—give me some more of that.' You keep accumulating bad habits and damage that you don't really realize until after the tour has ended. It can end a career in the long run."

[Don]

Do you know what they recommend for singers who suffer from vocal fatigue or other afflictions of the vocal cords? Silence.
Or, depending on how bad the "burn" is, it may even require surgery, treatment and a long period of vocal inactivity. After that there is something called recovery. Then training to get the cords back in shape. Have you ever thought that maybe SP's "retirement" was actually treatment and recovery time? And that's just strictly about the voice. He may have had other business to take care of while being "retired".

Anyway, the man spilled his lungs on the stage for years. He was an intense singer, he didn't half-assed anything. No, not even on the ROR tour. Speeding through songs doesn't mean less intense singing. Eliminating songs doesn't mean less singing either, it just means being smart enough to protect an overused voice.

As for you saying he can't sing now...again - you assume something and present it as ironclad proof. You're smart enough to know the difference between the 2 notions. So...until proof it's going to be out there you can't possible know for sure if his voice is good or bad.

Btw, he was quite good on David Pack's album and that was only a few years ago.

Pack's album did NOT have Steve Perry's raw voice on it. That thing was enhanced and fucked with to no end!

Anyway, moving right along here ...


Dangerous Shortcuts

Stroud (Adam Lambert's vocal coach) says there are times when even the best singers may need medical help to get through a show, but this can have a downside. "Steroids are very much like shooting up a football player with anesthesia when they have a torn ligament or broken bone. They're able to go out and run, because they don't feel it, but they do more damage," he insists. "These medications need to be combined with good technique."

Stroud warns that singers can use these treatments as an easy out: "They think, 'Wow, I didn't have to do any work for that—give me some more of that.' You keep accumulating bad habits and damage that you don't really realize until after the tour has ended. It can end a career in the long run."

Didn't you and David Pack have a little discussion about the kitten killer a few years back?

[Saint John]

Do you know what they recommend for singers who suffer from vocal fatigue or other afflictions of the vocal cords? Silence.
Or, depending on how bad the "burn" is, it may even require surgery, treatment and a long period of vocal inactivity. After that there is something called recovery. Then training to get the cords back in shape. Have you ever thought that maybe SP's "retirement" was actually treatment and recovery time? And that's just strictly about the voice. He may have had other business to take care of while being "retired".

Anyway, the man spilled his lungs on the stage for years. He was an intense singer, he didn't half-assed anything. No, not even on the ROR tour. Speeding through songs doesn't mean less intense singing. Eliminating songs doesn't mean less singing either, it just means being smart enough to protect an overused voice.

As for you saying he can't sing now...again - you assume something and present it as ironclad proof. You're smart enough to know the difference between the 2 notions. So...until proof it's going to be out there you can't possible know for sure if his voice is good or bad.

Btw, he was quite good on David Pack's album and that was only a few years ago.

Pack's album did NOT have Steve Perry's raw voice on it. That thing was enhanced and fucked with to no end!

Anyway, moving right along here ...


Dangerous Shortcuts

Stroud (Adam Lambert's vocal coach) says there are times when even the best singers may need medical help to get through a show, but this can have a downside. "Steroids are very much like shooting up a football player with anesthesia when they have a torn ligament or broken bone. They're able to go out and run, because they don't feel it, but they do more damage," he insists. "These medications need to be combined with good technique."

Stroud warns that singers can use these treatments as an easy out: "They think, 'Wow, I didn't have to do any work for that—give me some more of that.' You keep accumulating bad habits and damage that you don't really realize until after the tour has ended. It can end a career in the long run."

Didn't you and David Pack have a little discussion about the kitten killer a few years back?

We were in line at Jim Peterik's World Stage show and when he heard me MENTION the name of Uncle he who cannot be named, he got up and fucking left the table! And I wasn't even going to ask him a question about Uncle HWCBN ... or anything else! We were talking about singers like Uncle HWCBN, Rik Emmitt, Jimi Jamison, etc and his head turned, he got up and left looking somewhat disgusted.

I DID have a little conversation with Steve Smith, though. He rolled his eyes and smirked when I asked what it was like working with Uncle HWCBN. Didn't seem like a big fan of working with him at all. But getting fired would probably do that.

[tammy]

I thought Steve Smith only returned to Journey (for TBF) BECAUSE Steve Perry was gonna too?!

[annie89509]

Well... I like all the questions and his answers. True, this year's Q&A was not much different than any of all the others...but, after following all the interviews of the past 10 years or so, I think we kind of got an idea of who SP is and how he relates and talks.

Regarding Q64?...I think it was a very valid question, and he gave it a very SP-ish, playful answer. There will always be those fans that want a Yes or No answer, but I agree with Rhi, I really think he is conflicted (he basically has admitted to it time and time again)...so, in his mind, he is not "retired."

[*Laura]

Pack's album did NOT have Steve Perry's raw voice on it. That thing was enhanced and fucked with to no end!

And you know this how...? Were you at the mixer?
While I agree that studios have abracadabra tools, at the same time, I think that if SP would have not been capable of singing he would have not appeared on Pack's album.

... he got up and fucking left the table! And I wasn't even going to ask him a question about Uncle HWCBN ... or anything else! We were talking about singers like Uncle HWCBN, Rik Emmitt, Jimi Jamison, etc and his head turned, he got up and left looking somewhat disgusted.

Why are you so convinced that he left because he heard SP's name? You read his mind? Maybe he just had to get up and go pee and he made a bladder emergency "face".


Seriously...there is too much useless crap aimed at him and it's getting really old. Maybe it's true that SP doesn't give a shit about the fans, but knowing what some of them say, I wouldn't be surprised.

[Saint John]

I thought Steve Smith only returned to Journey (for TBF) BECAUSE Steve Perry was gonna too?!

He was only interested from a monetary standpoint (which only the classic lineup with Perry would bring), meaning a full reunion and the approximate 80 million in guaranteed money.

[Saint John]

And you know this how...? Were you at the mixer?
While I agree that studios have abracadabra tools, at the same time, I think that if SP would have not been capable of singing he would have not appeared on Pack's album.

Just listen to it! There's just no "Perry and just a microphone feel" to it at all.

Why are you so convinced that he left because he heard SP's name? You read his mind? Maybe he just had to get up and go pee and he made a bladder emergency "face".

Listen, if you can make suppositions and play the plausible deniability card with his voice in the absence of any evidence, I can do the opposite with these small grains of "evidence!" It won't make either of have an "Gotcha!" moment, but it's better than the fucking picture thread!

[*Laura]

And you know this how...? Were you at the mixer?
While I agree that studios have abracadabra tools, at the same time, I think that if SP would have not been capable of singing he would have not appeared on Pack's album.

Just listen to it! There's just no "Perry and just a microphone feel" to it at all.

I understand that, but he's still singing, no? That's my point. You said he's done and can't sing anymore.

Why are you so convinced that he left because he heard SP's name? You read his mind? Maybe he just had to get up and go pee and he made a bladder emergency "face".

Listen, if you can make suppositions and play the plausible deniability card with his voice in the absence of any evidence, I can do the opposite with these small grains of "evidence!" It won't make either of have an "Gotcha!" moment, but it's better than the fucking picture thread!

It's ok to make suppositions, BUT...yours are ALL negative. The only thing you haven't said yet is that SP is the Devil. You already see people getting up and running when they hear his name, so maybe it was a hint.

Hey, that picture thread was supposed to be a one pager maybe with new or never seen before pics, but it turned into an old material gallery. That's not my thread anymore, it's everybody else's. Btw, many think that the pic thread is better than your June Gloom. Just sayin'.

[tammy]

I don't know...I'm pretty sure SP can still sing (heck, if he couldn't he wouldn't even bother making demos, letting anyone listen, sing a bit for interviewers - he'd never let it get out)...it's just not to the degree it used to be...that's to be expected with anything as you age. Maybe, it is because of not having the range he can't convey the big emotion needed and he's always been about emotion in the song. Although, I think you can have great emotion in a song without high notes...I also think you can reach something much deeper when you are older with more life experience. (I'm just rambling 'cuz I'm sick) When I listen to Van Morrison (I'm sure a lot of people here don't like him anyway, but)...I much more prefer his voice/emotion/songs in his 50s-60s than when he was young.
I just don't know what is stopping SP from doing it...when the artist, Matisse, was bedridden and couldn't paint anymore, he took up a pair of scissors and started snipping away and still created great works of art. Just sayin'.

[STORY_TELLER]

For those of you who have never met Saint John (Dan) in person, here is a photo of him taken at age of ten. From reading his posts I think we can all agree he hasn't changed much. He still talks out of his ass.

[Saint John]

For those of you who have never met Saint John (Dan) in person, here is a photo of him taken at age of ten. From reading his posts I think we can all agree he hasn't changed much. He still talks out of his ass.

Good one, Susie Teller.

[Maui Tom]

For those of you who have never met Saint John (Dan) in person, here is a photo of him taken at age of ten. From reading his posts I think we can all agree he hasn't changed much. He still talks out of his ass.

Good one, Susie Teller.

Dan sucked his thumb til he was 18...then jut bought a dildo which he carries with him 24/7.....

guy is constantly spewing shit....

[Shadowsong]

[quote="*Laura better than the fucking picture thread! [/quote]

he only thing you haven't said yet is that SP is the Devil. You already see people getting up and running when they hear his name, so maybe it was a hint.

[/quote]

[Author2]

Author2""froy"

Hey Froy, maybe one day you will GROW UP!

Maybe one day you will wake up..

Was never asleep to the facts, but STILL wish Steve Perry the best!

[Author2]

when he heard me

The OPERATIVE words......

[Shadowsong]

Saved by the light
One with the heart to see through ions of darkness~

[Liquid_Drummer]

From studying speech pathology I can tell that a whole lot can be judged by a persons speaking voice and in a singers case, their laugh. When we laugh it is almost always in a higher register than when we speak so I present my 2 cents on Mr Perry's voice 2010.

The interview that he did last still had lots of signs of rattle on certain words and when he laughed it is very broken up. From hearing him speak and laugh I would have agree with HH that he just doesnt have it and what is left as probably less that FTLOSM and TBF. He gave us his all and sacrificed his voice in doing so. It is the brightest stars that burn out the fastest. The long tours, 4-5 nights in a row. It is no wonder. HE admitted a b12 injection before a show and claimed that it was just once. I dont buy that.

His vocal cords no longer close all the way and in fact sound like they are far from it. The proof is in his speech and laugh and how airy it is. That airy voice is from too much air passing the cords because they are not closing properly. The laugh being broken up all tells the tale about his possible condition.

Thickened and callused vocal cords with little of their former elasticity and maybe even nodes but those could have been laser removed with little change to his voice. That elasticity is what gave us those stunning, full high notes and that is what goes 1st as singers age. Not all are subject to this as we here Mickey Thomas still NAILING the song Jane live in standard pitch. As the elasticity became an issue he had to adjust and you have Frontiers as exhibit A.

No one will deny though that despite the rasp, lower deliver and note ducking/speeding though songs that the man is one of the smartest singers. Knowing exactly how to approach high notes during FTLOSM by using different vowel sounds that still worked for him. The end of Anyway is very deceiving.. Read on..

I am sure Steve sung that with no aid. High notes like that are not that hard for a lot of trained singers and as a matter of fact I can hit the note at the end of something to hide. So what ? If the middle wont hold up what good is that ? What happens with conditions like what I think Perry is dealing with is that you loose a part of your range. You might still be able sing really high and really low but the middle takes the beating because you spend most of the time singing there.

IF he ever comes out with anything I am sure he will make the best of what he has. Expect low, sultry vocals with a does of Rod Stewart.

He burnt it out for us in the end and a hefty sum of money but you can tell in the interviews, his voice and his comments. HE WANTS TO SING BADLY, I think he would rejoin Journey if he had the pipes and it has been and will remain my opinion that the only reason he hasnt is because he cant please himself. IF he toured he would be expected to sing the old stuff. Aint happening.

Once those cords lose their elasticity and thicken it is rare that they ever close properly again. Doesnt mean he cant sing. I am sure he can still move mountains even if his range has left him. He was always a very smart singer and can make up range with wonderful melody lines.

The song TBF rings a bell. No high notes but moving to me anyway. But to sum it all up.. I think he is done and we will not see new material and part of it is what Perry fans expect to hear when he sings. Soaring high notes are a must and he knows this. I would imagine that he probably feels that what he can deliver will fall short of fan expectations because of what people have grown to expect. He may not be able to live up to that so he doesnt play the game anymore.

[*Laura]

LD, there are some big truths in your post but also some contradictions. The latter is when you say that he was always a smart singer who knew how to mask his problems...then you say he's done. Well, since he is a smart pro singer, why do you think that he wouldn't use his skills to compesate for whatever is lost in the range dept.? You say then (and I agree) that he could move mountains even with his current voice.
So...I truly don't think that he's done or that he wouldn't be capable of pulling off an album, but it's more about what you also say: "He can't please himself".
That's why I get so tired hearing the "he's done" line, because I don't believe that he's done vocally but has other issues, like over-overthinking.

Perry fans expect to hear when he sings. Soaring high notes are a must and he knows this.

Soaring notes are a "must" for many of the Journey fans, not the Perry fans. He might be overwhelmed by that thought, understandably so. But I doubt any Journey fan would "Boo!" at a Steve Perry concert just because his voice wouldn't reach the stratosphere. Although the high notes are one of the reasons why he was so admired, it is the quality and the delivery that kept him at the top...and still would.

<---This fan couldn't give 2 shits about Everest notes and I'm sure the majority of the Perry fanbase feels the same.

[Saint John]

The dude is done. He has irreparable damage to his voice and I doubt he has any interest in singing anything but those Journey songs. Besides, even if he does, he's worked DSB so much and for so long, people are gonna beg, demand, request and dream that he sing it again, but it would sound so vastly different that he wouldn't do it. His association is very tightly interwoven with Journey and no one is going to have any desire to hear new shit and/or covers. He knows any sort of comeback will demand singing the back catalog and he quite simply can't. He'd be at least a full step down and his pride is too strong to allow that. I think FTLOSM was a "trial run" for the TBF tour and at the end of that tour he knew it was all over. It just killed him to think of Journey going out with anyone else, so he played the game as long as he could, but they eventually moved on. Let it go, man. Take a bow and realize that for a 5-7 year period you were the best that's ever been. And there hasn't been anyone better since. Not in this band or any other.

[Behshad]

The dude is done. He has irreparable damage to his voice and I doubt he has any interest in singing anything but those Journey songs, Augeri-style .

[Don]

The guy had a chance with Reba a few years ago and if he had done it right could have pulled a Robert Plant.

Look at what Robert did;won himself some Grammys and didn't even have to use any of his Zeppelin catalog or worry about his deteriorated vocals.
Perry on the other hand just let every fucking window close until it was too late.

How many legacy artists would kill to be on American idol? Perry didn't even have to sing, just show up as a judge for a few days and even that was too much for him. Dude is done.

[TRAGChick]

Perry fans expect to hear when he sings. Soaring high notes are a must and he knows this.

Soaring notes are a "must" for many of the Journey fans, not the Perry fans. He might be overwhelmed by that thought, understandably so. But I doubt any Journey fan would "Boo!" at a Steve Perry concert just because his voice wouldn't reach the stratosphere. Although the high notes are one of the reasons why he was so admired, it is the quality and the delivery that kept him at the top...and still would.

<---This fan couldn't give 2 shits about Everest notes and I'm sure the majority of the Perry fanbase feels the same.

My most favorite songs of his are in the LOWER register: "Captured By The Moment", "Melody", "Go Away", "Ask The Lonely", "What Was".

[*Laura]

The dude is done.

[EightyRock]

Melody and What Was are great examples of mid-range powerhouse vocals. Those two songs stand up against any of the older Journey ballads, when it comes to technique and delivery (not to mention great lyrics and melodics). Do yourselves a favor and take another listen to What Was and then decide exactly what he "lost" vocally, other than ultra high notes.

[tammy]

Okay, did anyone else hear Mark & Brian on the radio this a.m.? My husband told me that they were talking to a music reporter in N.Y. that they talk to once a week and he was going on again about how Steve Perry is in the studio and writing & how he was inspired by the Giants win.

Anyway, I don't care what range he sings in now...just sing! I'm pretty darn we will all recognize TheVoice no matter what.

[sp old ldy]

I COULD GIVE A SHIT IN THE WIND ABOUT SOARING NOTES!!!!!!!!! It doesn't matter to me if he does or doesn't sing the old stuff!!!!! I don't care if all he sings is the A B C's. I just want to see him and hear him sing again!!!!!! As long as he can please himself, that's all that matters. I hope and pray that he will come back and sing for us but if he doesn't that is his choice, and I will have to live with that but this loon will always love him regardless.

[Shadowsong]

Perry fans expect to hear when he sings. Soaring high notes are a must and he knows this.

Soaring notes are a "must" for many of the Journey fans, not the Perry fans. He might be overwhelmed by that thought, understandably so. But I doubt any Journey fan would "Boo!" at a Steve Perry concert just because his voice wouldn't reach the stratosphere. Although the high notes are one of the reasons why he was so admired, it is the quality and the delivery that kept him at the top...and still would.

<---This fan couldn't give 2 shits about Everest notes and I'm sure the majority of the Perry fanbase feels the same.

My most favorite songs of his are in the LOWER register: "Captured By The Moment", "Melody", "Go Away", "Ask The Lonely", "What Was".

I agree...he has a lower register & its soulfully impressive & imho its where he should explore~

[steveo777]

Perry fans expect to hear when he sings. Soaring high notes are a must and he knows this.

Soaring notes are a "must" for many of the Journey fans, not the Perry fans. He might be overwhelmed by that thought, understandably so. But I doubt any Journey fan would "Boo!" at a Steve Perry concert just because his voice wouldn't reach the stratosphere. Although the high notes are one of the reasons why he was so admired, it is the quality and the delivery that kept him at the top...and still would.

<---This fan couldn't give 2 shits about Everest notes and I'm sure the majority of the Perry fanbase feels the same.

My most favorite songs of his are in the LOWER register: "Captured By The Moment", "Melody", "Go Away", "Ask The Lonely", "What Was".

I agree...he has a lower register & its soulfully impressive & imho its where he should explore~

Did we hear something from Steve and I missed it, recently? (The baseball game doesn't count)