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Postby G.I.Jim » Fri Dec 03, 2010 1:25 am

Wow!!! That was an interesting read. "Opposing forces" in the band huh? His tone sure didn't sound like things are going well... Guess we'll hear something soon enough who stomped their feet the hardest! :wink:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:14 am

He has to be exaggerating!!
Everyone knows there has been no dissension amongst the J~BOYZ
since they started being recognized as the J~BOYZ and, of course,
the departure of SP ...
Everything is peachy~keen, Arnel made them better men!! Old men
don't disagree!! :shock: :evil: :wink:
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Postby swataz » Fri Dec 03, 2010 2:18 am

Enter SP. lol

This quote is particularly telling:

"...but I can tell you this: if Steve Perry wanted to be back singing with Journey, everybody would find a way to make that happen."
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Postby perryfaithful » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:32 am

When You Love A Woman....where I left off
"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby perryfaithful » Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:45 am

swataz wrote:Enter SP. lol

This quote is particularly telling:

"...but I can tell you this: if Steve Perry wanted to be back singing with Journey, everybody would find a way to make that happen."


I love Shirley's description of Journey (and others) as a "heritage act"

to expand on the above quote, another interesting tid bit, about the decision making power for Perry in Journey to this day, thought that was over for the most part....

"There was a rumor going around recently that Steve Perry wanted back in.

"Well, that's just that - a rumor. But I can tell you he's still a key component of the decision-making part of the band. Nothing gets played or released without Steve Perry signing off on it. I'm not privy to the details of their arrangement, but I can tell you this: if Steve Perry wanted to be back singing with Journey, everybody would find a way to make that happen."
"In Journey, all the hit songs we had were based around Steve Perry's vocals."

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Postby Saint John » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:13 am

Michigan Girl wrote:He has to be exaggerating!!
Everyone knows there has been no dissension amongst the J~BOYZ
since they started being recognized as the J~BOYZ and, of course,
the departure of SP ...
Everything is peachy~keen, Arnel made them better men!! Old men
don't disagree!! :shock: :evil: :wink:


I think them not getting along creatively is great. Having differing creative views and vision, but still working together and finishing the album, shows passion, fire and professionalism. Instances when people stomp their foot, take their ball and go home is what's to be frowned upon.

I can tell you with an incredibly high degree of certainty that Neal, Jon and Arnel are all tugging for this album to be in the direction they want. And I think the winner is going to be the fans. :)
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:57 am

Saint John wrote:
I think them not getting along creatively is great. Having differing creative views and vision, but still working together and finishing the album, shows passion, fire and professionalism. Instances when people stomp their foot, take their ball and go home is what's to be frowned upon.


I agree with you here. :shock:

I can tell you with an incredibly high degree of certainty that Neal, Jon and Arnel are all tugging for this album to be in the direction they want. And I think the winner is going to be the fans. :)


Did RobbieG call you last night with this information?
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Postby Saint John » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:02 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Did RobbieG call you last night with this information?


:lol: ... no, he only talks to Phyllis. :? :wink:
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Postby Rockindeano » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:12 am

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Rockindeano wrote:
Did RobbieG call you last night with this information?


:lol: ... no, he only talks to Phyllis. :? :wink:


Well dude, you have to cite a source.....who the Hell is feeding you this bullshit? You sure you have Schon's correct number? I have it if you want it.
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Postby Saint John » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:34 am

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Well dude, you have to cite a source.....who the Hell is feeding you this bullshit? You sure you have Schon's correct number? I have it if you want it.


lol ... I think my source is more than reliable, but, like anything, bad information does get passed around. But it's been very reliable so far! Neal's number? No thanks, man. I can't think of anything he'd want to hear from me. Well, maybe my opinion of Nostrildamus, but he can just read that here. :lol:
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Postby Peartree12249 » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:42 am

Saint John wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:He has to be exaggerating!!
Everyone knows there has been no dissension amongst the J~BOYZ
since they started being recognized as the J~BOYZ and, of course,
the departure of SP ...
Everything is peachy~keen, Arnel made them better men!! Old men
don't disagree!! :shock: :evil: :wink:


I think them not getting along creatively is great. Having differing creative views and vision, but still working together and finishing the album, shows passion, fire and professionalism. Instances when people stomp their foot, take their ball and go home is what's to be frowned upon.

I can tell you with an incredibly high degree of certainty that Neal, Jon and Arnel are all tugging for this album to be in the direction they want. And I think the winner is going to be the fans. :)


I would agree that the creative tension is between Neal, who wants to rock and Jon who wants to keep writing syrupy ballads. Arnel...not so much. I think he's just damn happy to have the gig and will sing whatever they ask him to.
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Postby Don » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:46 am

Peartree12249 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:He has to be exaggerating!!
Everyone knows there has been no dissension amongst the J~BOYZ
since they started being recognized as the J~BOYZ and, of course,
the departure of SP ...
Everything is peachy~keen, Arnel made them better men!! Old men
don't disagree!! :shock: :evil: :wink:


I think them not getting along creatively is great. Having differing creative views and vision, but still working together and finishing the album, shows passion, fire and professionalism. Instances when people stomp their foot, take their ball and go home is what's to be frowned upon.

I can tell you with an incredibly high degree of certainty that Neal, Jon and Arnel are all tugging for this album to be in the direction they want. And I think the winner is going to be the fans. :)


I would agree that the creative tension is between Neal, who wants to rock and Jon who wants to keep writing syrupy ballads. Arnel...not so much. I think he's just damn happy to have the gig and will sing whatever they ask him to.


Arnel's only dilemma centers around if it's going to be Nike or British Knights this tour.
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Postby Andrew » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:51 am

Saint John wrote:Well, maybe my opinion of Nostrildamus, but he can just read that here. :lol:


Give it a fucking rest already. Jeezuz.

As for the "info" - that's only stating the bloody obvious really.
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Postby Andrew » Fri Dec 03, 2010 10:52 am

Peartree12249 wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:He has to be exaggerating!!
Everyone knows there has been no dissension amongst the J~BOYZ
since they started being recognized as the J~BOYZ and, of course,
the departure of SP ...
Everything is peachy~keen, Arnel made them better men!! Old men
don't disagree!! :shock: :evil: :wink:


I think them not getting along creatively is great. Having differing creative views and vision, but still working together and finishing the album, shows passion, fire and professionalism. Instances when people stomp their foot, take their ball and go home is what's to be frowned upon.

I can tell you with an incredibly high degree of certainty that Neal, Jon and Arnel are all tugging for this album to be in the direction they want. And I think the winner is going to be the fans. :)


I would agree that the creative tension is between Neal, who wants to rock and Jon who wants to keep writing syrupy ballads. Arnel...not so much. I think he's just damn happy to have the gig and will sing whatever they ask him to.


Of course it is. 2 leaders in this band and the other guys do what they are told.
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Postby Saint John » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:24 am

Andrew wrote:
Of course it is. 2 leaders in this band and the other guys do what they are told.


If Soto were fronting the band I'm quite sure you'd say 3. Regardless, they're a 3-headed monster once again. But that's not to say that Neal and Jon don't carry more pull than Arnel, but he does have a say in matters. I'm sure of it. Perhaps like saying NO to touring with Foreigner (after their main tour) a few years back? :wink:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:46 am

If that's true ...those two are more stupid than we give them credit for!! :?
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Postby Saint John » Sat Dec 04, 2010 3:52 am

Michigan Girl wrote:If that's true ...those two are more stupid than we give them credit for!! :?


I know ... because sailing along with their new singer, upcoming world tour, multi-platinum album and #1 DVD seems to indicate that they're really stupid. :lol: :roll:
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:35 am

Saint John wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:If that's true ...those two are more stupid than we give them credit for!! :?


I know ... because sailing along with their new singer, upcoming world tour, multi-platinum album and #1 DVD seems to indicate that they're really stupid. :lol: :roll:


Let's see, a singer who graced the world with a sobbing rags to riches tale that the media jumped all over, a fuzzy math "platinum album(Multi platinum never ever ocurred), and a #1 DVD which isn't hard to do really, especially when every Pinoy buys one. :lol:

I love your passion and defense for this band dude, but you you change professions and go to work as a politcal spin doctor. You could be on Fox News, MSNBC, CNN just spinning things.....If I hear one more fucking time that Revelations went platinum, I am going to have a stroke.....that thing was a joke...sold for 7 bucks, a reissue of Perry's classics, a half assed DVD in there...come on now. No way that thing sells gold if it is purely a one disc Revelation release....well, maybe the Pinoys would buy it still but.......

Daniel, was just talking to Gunbot the other day. I asked him how many units Springsteen would have to move in order to certify platinum for his latest release- which is 6 discs large. Gunbot told me 112K or something like that....are you saying it's bullshit, or legit????
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Postby Don » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:46 am

Rockindeano wrote:
Saint John wrote:
Michigan Girl wrote:If that's true ...those two are more stupid than we give them credit for!! :?


I know ... because sailing along with their new singer, upcoming world tour, multi-platinum album and #1 DVD seems to indicate that they're really stupid. :lol: :roll:


Let's see, a singer who graced the world with a sobbing rags to riches tale that the media jumped all over, a fuzzy math "platinum album(Multi platinum never ever ocurred), and a #1 DVD which isn't hard to do really, especially when ever Pinoy buys one. :lol:

I love your passion and defense for this band dude, but you you change professions and go to work as a politcal spin doctor. You could be on Fox News, MSNBC, CNN just spinning things.....If I hear one more fucking time that Revelations went platinum, I am going to have a stroke.....that thing was a joke...sold for 7 bucks, a reissue of Perry's classics, a half assed DVD in there...come on now. No way that thing sells gold if it is purely a one disc Revelation release....well, maybe the Pinoys would buy it still but.......

Daniel, was just talking to Gunbot the other day. I asked him how many units Springsteen would have to move in order to certify platinum for his latest release- which is 6 discs large. Gunbot told me 112K or something like that....are you saying it's bullshit, or legit????


I don't think you read me right. I was talking about total sales for The PROMISE equating to 112k for that week. A double disc, triple disc Quadruple disc package, ETC. can only be counted as double at the maximum. You can't put in 5 discs and hit Platinum with a hundred k in sales , you stil need to move 500k packages. You know how many people would be offloading analogy sets just to claim platinum if was that easy? :lol:
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Postby Saint John » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:50 am

Rockindeano wrote:Daniel, was just talking to Gunbot the other day. I asked him how many units Springsteen would have to move in order to certify platinum for his latest release- which is 6 discs large. Gunbot told me 112K or something like that....are you saying it's bullshit, or legit????


Legit. I don't make the rules, but I try to follow them. :)

PS he would have to sell 166,666.6 albums for a 6 CD package to go Platinum. :wink:
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Postby Don » Sat Dec 04, 2010 6:52 am

Saint John wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:Daniel, was just talking to Gunbot the other day. I asked him how many units Springsteen would have to move in order to certify platinum for his latest release- which is 6 discs large. Gunbot told me 112K or something like that....are you saying it's bullshit, or legit????


Legit. I don't make the rules, but I try to follow them. :)

PS he would have to sell 166,666.6 albums for a 6 CD package to go Platinum. :wink:


See my post above. 500k for platinum, no matter if you have a set with two discs or a hundred.

Multi disc sets is what the classification is. 500,000 = Platinum
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Postby CatEyes » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:10 am

From RIAA

Multi-Disc Set
Gold
Quantity:
500,000 units. Package must include two or more Cds (or its tape and album equivalent.)
Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.

*Minimum running time 100 minutes.

Platinum
Quantity:
One million units. Package must include two or more CDs ( or its tape and album equivalent.)
Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.
*Minimum running time 100 minutes.

Multi-Platinum
Quantity:
Two million units. Package must include two or more Cds (or its tape and album equivalent.)

Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.
*Minimum running time of 100 minutes.

*Recertified at each million unit sales level.\\\\
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Postby Don » Sat Dec 04, 2010 7:32 am

CatEyes wrote:From RIAA

Multi-Disc Set
Gold
Quantity:
500,000 units. Package must include two or more Cds (or its tape and album equivalent.)
Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.

*Minimum running time 100 minutes.

Platinum
Quantity:
One million units. Package must include two or more CDs ( or its tape and album equivalent.)
Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.
*Minimum running time 100 minutes.

Multi-Platinum
Quantity:
Two million units. Package must include two or more Cds (or its tape and album equivalent.)

Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.
*Minimum running time of 100 minutes.

*Recertified at each million unit sales level.\\\\


That's what their website SAYS but what they actually do is a little different.
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Postby Rockindeano » Sat Dec 04, 2010 9:01 am

CatEyes wrote:From RIAA

Multi-Disc Set
Gold
Quantity:
500,000 units. Package must include two or more Cds (or its tape and album equivalent.)
Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.

*Minimum running time 100 minutes.

Platinum
Quantity:
One million units. Package must include two or more CDs ( or its tape and album equivalent.)
Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.
*Minimum running time 100 minutes.

Multi-Platinum
Quantity:
Two million units. Package must include two or more Cds (or its tape and album equivalent.)

Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.
*Minimum running time of 100 minutes.

*Recertified at each million unit sales level.\\\\


This makes no sense. What you've just outlined is what appears to be platinum qualification for a single disc sale, not a multi disc sale.

Thanks Dr Gunbot for the multi disc formula. It doesn't matter if it is 2 discs or 6....gotchya.
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Postby CatEyes » Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:22 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
CatEyes wrote:From RIAA

Multi-Disc Set
Gold
Quantity:
500,000 units. Package must include two or more Cds (or its tape and album equivalent.)
Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.

*Minimum running time 100 minutes.

Platinum
Quantity:
One million units. Package must include two or more CDs ( or its tape and album equivalent.)

Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.
*Minimum running time 100 minutes.

Multi-Platinum
Quantity:
Two million units. Package must include two or more Cds (or its tape and album equivalent.)

Requirements:
*Each unit within set counts as one unit toward certification.
*Minimum running time of 100 minutes.

*Recertified at each million unit sales level.\\\\


This makes no sense. What you've just outlined is what appears to be platinum qualification for a single disc sale, not a multi disc sale.

Thanks Dr Gunbot for the multi disc formula. It doesn't matter if it is 2 discs or 6....gotchya.


I didn't outline anything

This is directly from the RIAA website http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinum.php ... r=criteria

So if the disc set contains 6 discs, 6 units are credited to the 500,000 unit requirement.

So they did not sell multi-platinum wothth of disc SETS
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Postby Babyblue » Tue Dec 07, 2010 12:26 am

perryfaithful wrote:
swataz wrote:Enter SP. lol

This quote is particularly telling:

"...but I can tell you this: if Steve Perry wanted to be back singing with Journey, everybody would find a way to make that happen."


I love Shirley's description of Journey (and others) as a "heritage act"

to expand on the above quote, another interesting tid bit, about the decision making power for Perry in Journey to this day, thought that was over for the most part....

"There was a rumor going around recently that Steve Perry wanted back in.

"Well, that's just that - a rumor. But I can tell you he's still a key component of the decision-making part of the band. Nothing gets played or released without Steve Perry signing off on it. I'm not privy to the details of their arrangement, but I can tell you this: if Steve Perry wanted to be back singing with Journey, everybody would find a way to make that happen."



I bet they would give anything to have SP back with them. :lol: :wink:
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Postby Andrew » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:51 am

I just did my own full feature interview with Kevin. Terrific talking to him and gained a lot of insight into recording an album.

It will be online in due course.....not before a lot of typing!
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Postby portland » Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:54 am

Andrew wrote:I just did my own full feature interview with Kevin. Terrific talking to him and gained a lot of insight into recording an album.

It will be online in due course.....not before a lot of typing!



Congrats Andrew....can't wait to see it in type!
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Postby Deb » Tue Dec 07, 2010 1:29 pm

Andrew wrote:I just did my own full feature interview with Kevin. Terrific talking to him and gained a lot of insight into recording an album.

It will be online in due course.....not before a lot of typing!


Very cool, can't wait to read it!

:lol: And if you need a hand with all that typing................. :D
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