Don’t stop believin’ in a Steve Perry return

[tater1977]

Don’t stop believin’ in a Steve Perry return

Published: Tuesday, January 10, 2012

By GARY GRAFF
For Journal Register Newspapers


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He’s sold nearly 80 million albums worldwide, was the voice of more than two dozen Top 40 hits and is one of Rolling Stone magazine’s 100 Greatest Singers of All-Time.

He also created the non-existent South Detroit.

But for a guy with so many high profile accomplishments, Steve Perry has been a “Whatever happened to?” subject for much of the past decade and a half.

Since leaving Journey in 1998 he’s battled health issues and has surfaced only rarely, even as the music — particularly the 1981 hit “Don’t Stop Believin’,” which put the aforementioned South Detroit on the map, has endured.

It’s that past that’s made Perry surface a bit these days. He “navigated” the November release of Journey’s “Greatest Hits Vol. 2,” a sequel to the 1988 compilation that’s sold more than 25 million copies. He also supervised the re-mastering of his first solo album, 1984’s “Street Talk,” for vinyl release. Now 62 and living in southern California, just north of San Diego, Perry acknowledges “it’s been a long time, for sure” since he’s been in the limelight, but he’s happy to be talking about Journey music again.

“I was stunned at how good the band really was, to be honest with you,” Perry says. “I listened to these tracks so many times...and every time I’d listen to it I’d hear something different that I forgot about, and what a great band we once were!

“I’m older now,” he adds with a laugh, “so I think the older I get, I’m able to look back at the forest, because I certainly walked out of the trees.”

It’s not like Perry wasn’t aware of Journey’s success when he was in the band, of course. During his 21 years fronting Journey, the group notched nine consecutive platinum or (mostly) better albums, 13 Top 20 singles and record-setting concert box office figures. But Perry says the group’s frantic schedule, particularly between 1977-84, made it hard for he and his bandmates to savor their triumphs.

“I think everybody was following their heart and their nose and just doing what we do,” Perry explains. “We’re a band — we record, we rock, we instinctually reach for what we believe is a good idea and argue about stuff, disagree, agree and move forward.

“It was a quick thing. It wasn’t a lot of analyzation or digestion. We were just crankin’. It’s only now, this much later, that I can appreciate what I was part of.”

A native of the town of Hanford in California’s San Joaquin Valley, Perry didn’t have to look beyond than his home for musical inspiration.

His father Ray was a singer. His mother Mary gave him an eighth note necklace as a 12th birthday present that he still wears as a good luck charm. She also turned him on to Sam Cooke, while another R&B sound from the east also caught his ear.

“Motown...got me believing in the power of music,” Perry recalls. “I loved the Four Tops; Levi Stubbs was one of my favorite singers forever. Marvin Gaye (was) beyond genius). All that stuff was just so sincere and so believable and so grand and so majestic and so proud. I just resonated with what their musical sensibility was about, and it really lifted me up.

“Of course, I was a Beatles fan, too, and then I got into Led Zeppelin and all that later on. But when I was really young, it was R&B.”

Perry was in a band called Alien Project when he was recruited by Journey manager Herbie Herbert to join the band, which Santana alumni Neal Schon and Greg Rolie had formed as a more instrumental-oriented group exploring rock-jazz fusion. Perry’s addition instantly gave Journey more commercial appeal; his first album and Journey’s fourth overall, 1978’s “Infinity,” went triple-platinum. And though Perry — who Queen’s Brian May once called “a truly luminous singer...a voice in a million” —- says the new direction made things “tense” in the beginning, increased sales and big hits certainly smoothed things over.

Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. With Jonathan Cain of the Babys joining the band in place of Rolie, it was Journey’s first No. 1 album and spawned four hit singles — “Don’t Stop Believin’,’ “Who’s Crying Now,” “Open Arms” and “Still They Ride” — as well as the rock radio anthem “Stone In Love.” To date it’s sold more than 9.6 million copies in the U.S. and 12.4 million worldwide.

“I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Perry says. “Jon had so many creative ideas, and he and I did a lot of lyrics back then, too. It just turned another corner...thought at the time it felt like we were just doing more music the same way we always had. But time has shown it to be more of a quintessential album than some of the others.”

Perry is also “stunned” by the life “Don’t Stop Believin’ “ has had, from its initial march to No. 9 on the Billboard Hot 100 to rebirths as a sports stadium anthem and signature song for TV’s “Glee” and the musical “Rock of Ages.”

“To see whole new generations embrace that song and love it as much as we did when we recorded and wrote it — come on!,” Perry says. “I’m amazed — and grateful.”

One of the song’s most iconic placements, of course, was in the in the 2007 series finale of “The Sopranos.” But, Perry reveals, he almost didn’t let it happen.

“Jon (Cain) and Neal (Schon) had approved whatever they wanted to do,” he remembers, “but I said, ‘Well, I do care, and I want to know how it’s used.’ If somebody got whacked, I didn’t want to do that with that song.” The show’s producers initially refused to tell him, but three days before the episode aired Perry was still holding out. So they relented, swearing the singer to secrecy — though he says they did not clue him in to the famous cut to a silent black screen.

“They did tell me nobody was getting whacked, so I said yes,” Perry says. “The cool thing to me is that Tony Soprano digs Journey. He goes to the jukebox and thumbs through Heart and Tony Bennett...and you assume it’s gotta be Tony Bennett, right? Then all of a sudden Journey starts, and that was very cool.”

“Escape’s” success vaulted Journey into a new stratosphere and gave Perry the latitude to release “Street Talk,” which went double-platinum and spawned the Top 5 hit “Oh Sherrie.” The Journey saga, however, was about the come to an acrimonious end, though it proved to be a long goodbye.

When the band released “Trial By Fire” in 1996 after a 10-year hiatus, Perry was suffering from a degenerative condition that required hip replacement surgery which the singer was reluctant to undergo. Two years later Schon and Cain elected to go on without Perry, with the former saying at the time that “we shouldn’t have to sit around just because (Perry) doesn’t want to get himself better.”

Journey has been through three singers since, while Perry—- who did have the surgery in 1998 — has been mostly out of sight, though he did release a “Greatest Hits + Five Unreleased” compilation, recorded a couple of songs for the “Quest For Camelot” film soundtrack, appeared at Journey’s Hollywood Walk of Fame star ceremony in 2005 and attended a 2005 World Series game for the Chicago White Sox, who used “Don’t Stop Believin’ “ as their theme song that season.

These days Perry says his relationship with the Journey camp is “civil through channels. We really don’t have a lot to say to each other at this point. We have certainly for years now gone our separate ways and we’re all living different lives. They’ve got their singer (Arnel Pineda) and they’re working and they’re happy and everybody’s fine.”

Perry plans to be working in the near future, too. He’s constructing a recording studio at his home with “a tracking room about the size of Motown’s” Studio A, and he’s “written a whole bunch of ideas and directions, all over the map in the last two, three years.” He plans to get to work in earnest during 2012, though he’s not holding himself to a timetable.

“I don’t want it to have pressure,” Perry explains, “because I’ll worry about it sucking, and then what am I gonna do? I’ve got all this pressure...that I just don’t want on me, so I’ve allowed myself the ability to sketch and write as I go, and I’ll do it at my own pace.”

And though he says he’d “love to” play live again, Perry isn’t making promises in that direction, either.

“I’m no spring chicken,” he acknowledges. “The same arthritis that ate up my left hip that finally got replaced hasn’t stopped there...And touring is a lot of work. I’m impressed when I see people like Eric Clapton out there. Gee whiz, Eric, give me a break! It’s amazing. I know it’s gotta hurt somewhere.

“Right now I just want to work on some music, and I’ll deal with other stuff later on.”

[Ftloperry]

Great read!

[sp old ldy]

Is this the third interview??

[annie89509]

Is this the third interview??

Seems different media outlets pick up on the actual SP interviews, chop up the contents, and run it on their own pages as a news article.

[slucero]

"about the size of Motown Studio A"....

[Gideon]

Thank you, SP. Finally Cain gets his due.

Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. With Jonathan Cain of the Babys joining the band in place of Rolie, it was Journey’s first No. 1 album and spawned four hit singles — “Don’t Stop Believin’,’ “Who’s Crying Now,” “Open Arms” and “Still They Ride” — as well as the rock radio anthem “Stone In Love.” To date it’s sold more than 9.6 million copies in the U.S. and 12.4 million worldwide.

“I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Perry says. “Jon had so many creative ideas, and he and I did a lot of lyrics back then, too. It just turned another corner...thought at the time it felt like we were just doing more music the same way we always had. But time has shown it to be more of a quintessential album than some of the others.”

[Kor'n]

Thank you, SP. Finally Cain gets his due.

Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. With Jonathan Cain of the Babys joining the band in place of Rolie, it was Journey’s first No. 1 album and spawned four hit singles — “Don’t Stop Believin’,’ “Who’s Crying Now,” “Open Arms” and “Still They Ride” — as well as the rock radio anthem “Stone In Love.” To date it’s sold more than 9.6 million copies in the U.S. and 12.4 million worldwide.

“I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Perry says. “Jon had so many creative ideas, and he and I did a lot of lyrics back then, too. It just turned another corner...thought at the time it felt like we were just doing more music the same way we always had. But time has shown it to be more of a quintessential album than some of the others.”

Too bad all those "creative ideas" went by the wayside when Steve Perry left them. Guess Jon had no one to help him bring them to fruition. He could not go to Waite for Waite called "Open Arms"...what?

[Gideon]

Thank you, SP. Finally Cain gets his due.

Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. With Jonathan Cain of the Babys joining the band in place of Rolie, it was Journey’s first No. 1 album and spawned four hit singles — “Don’t Stop Believin’,’ “Who’s Crying Now,” “Open Arms” and “Still They Ride” — as well as the rock radio anthem “Stone In Love.” To date it’s sold more than 9.6 million copies in the U.S. and 12.4 million worldwide.

“I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Perry says. “Jon had so many creative ideas, and he and I did a lot of lyrics back then, too. It just turned another corner...thought at the time it felt like we were just doing more music the same way we always had. But time has shown it to be more of a quintessential album than some of the others.”

Too bad all those "creative ideas" went by the wayside when Steve Perry left them. Guess Jon had no one to help him bring them to fruition. He could not go to Waite for Waite called "Open Arms"...what?

Possibly, but then it probably comforted Jon that he was responsible for Journey's greatest success. Good to see that SP knows where his bread is buttered.

[onmyjrny]

Thank you, SP. Finally Cain gets his due.

Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. With Jonathan Cain of the Babys joining the band in place of Rolie, it was Journey’s first No. 1 album and spawned four hit singles — “Don’t Stop Believin’,’ “Who’s Crying Now,” “Open Arms” and “Still They Ride” — as well as the rock radio anthem “Stone In Love.” To date it’s sold more than 9.6 million copies in the U.S. and 12.4 million worldwide.

“I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Perry says. “Jon had so many creative ideas, and he and I did a lot of lyrics back then, too. It just turned another corner...thought at the time it felt like we were just doing more music the same way we always had. But time has shown it to be more of a quintessential album than some of the others.”

Too bad all those "creative ideas" went by the wayside when Steve Perry left them. Guess Jon had no one to help him bring them to fruition. He could not go to Waite for Waite called "Open Arms"...what?

Possibly, but then it probably comforted Jon that he was responsible for Journey's greatest success. Good to see that SP knows where his bread is buttered.

Jon was the final piece to the puzzle. The success came from the chemistry that happened when the 5 of them got together. Jon was a big piece of that but not the sole reason. It seems like Steve is starting to realize these things as he gets older and more reflective. He certainly has had really good things to say about his former bandmates in all the interviews he has done.

If the 5 of them had realized this point back in 1983, I think we would have gotten a couple more great albums from the band.

[Kor'n]

Thank you, SP. Finally Cain gets his due.

Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. With Jonathan Cain of the Babys joining the band in place of Rolie, it was Journey’s first No. 1 album and spawned four hit singles — “Don’t Stop Believin’,’ “Who’s Crying Now,” “Open Arms” and “Still They Ride” — as well as the rock radio anthem “Stone In Love.” To date it’s sold more than 9.6 million copies in the U.S. and 12.4 million worldwide.

“I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Perry says. “Jon had so many creative ideas, and he and I did a lot of lyrics back then, too. It just turned another corner...thought at the time it felt like we were just doing more music the same way we always had. But time has shown it to be more of a quintessential album than some of the others.”

Too bad all those "creative ideas" went by the wayside when Steve Perry left them. Guess Jon had no one to help him bring them to fruition. He could not go to Waite for Waite called "Open Arms"...what?

Possibly, but then it probably comforted Jon that he was responsible for Journey's greatest success. Good to see that SP knows where his bread is buttered.

As much as it "comforted" Perry that his great voice turned ordinary songs into hits to be heard to this day. "Good to see that [Jon] knows where his bread is buttered" especially since it has been butter-less since Perry left.

"My greatest success came with Steve Perry." Jon Cain / 2011

[Gideon]

Thank you, SP. Finally Cain gets his due.

Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. With Jonathan Cain of the Babys joining the band in place of Rolie, it was Journey’s first No. 1 album and spawned four hit singles — “Don’t Stop Believin’,’ “Who’s Crying Now,” “Open Arms” and “Still They Ride” — as well as the rock radio anthem “Stone In Love.” To date it’s sold more than 9.6 million copies in the U.S. and 12.4 million worldwide.

“I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Perry says. “Jon had so many creative ideas, and he and I did a lot of lyrics back then, too. It just turned another corner...thought at the time it felt like we were just doing more music the same way we always had. But time has shown it to be more of a quintessential album than some of the others.”

Too bad all those "creative ideas" went by the wayside when Steve Perry left them. Guess Jon had no one to help him bring them to fruition. He could not go to Waite for Waite called "Open Arms"...what?

Possibly, but then it probably comforted Jon that he was responsible for Journey's greatest success. Good to see that SP knows where his bread is buttered.

Jon was the final piece to the puzzle. The success came from the chemistry that happened when the 5 of them got together. Jon was a big piece of that but not the sole reason. It seems like Steve is starting to realize these things as he gets older and more reflective. He certainly has had really good things to say about his former bandmates in all the interviews he has done.

If the 5 of them had realized this point back in 1983, I think we would have gotten a couple more great albums from the band.

Well said, but then wisdom is supposed to come with age is it not? So it's not surprising that SP has these revelations now and is more vocal about them. Too bad Jon gets the shaft in the long run, but it's good that SP gives him his proper due.

[Gideon]

As much as it "comforted" Perry that his great voice turned ordinary songs into hits to be heard to this day. "Good to see that [Jon] knows where his bread is buttered" especially since it has been butter-less since Perry left.

"My greatest success came with Steve Perry." Jon Cain / 2011

No argument here, Jon's success came with SP. But per SP, his great success came from Jon and his creative ideas. Us Journey fans are fortunate that such a talented songwriter turned a no-name singer that no one wanted into one of pop music's biggest stars.

Thank you, Mr. Cain for the career of Steve Perry.

[tater1977]

As much as it "comforted" Perry that his great voice turned ordinary songs into hits to be heard to this day. "Good to see that [Jon] knows where his bread is buttered" especially since it has been butter-less since Perry left.

"My greatest success came with Steve Perry." Jon Cain / 2011

No argument here, Jon's success came with SP. But per SP, his great success came from Jon and his creative ideas. Us Journey fans are fortunate that such a talented songwriter turned a no-name singer that no one wanted into one of pop music's biggest stars.

Thank you, Mr. Cain for the career of Steve Perry.

LOL Gideon..I gotta ask..did you ever get to see SP/J live?

[Gideon]

As much as it "comforted" Perry that his great voice turned ordinary songs into hits to be heard to this day. "Good to see that [Jon] knows where his bread is buttered" especially since it has been butter-less since Perry left.

"My greatest success came with Steve Perry." Jon Cain / 2011

No argument here, Jon's success came with SP. But per SP, his great success came from Jon and his creative ideas. Us Journey fans are fortunate that such a talented songwriter turned a no-name singer that no one wanted into one of pop music's biggest stars.

Thank you, Mr. Cain for the career of Steve Perry.

LOL Gideon..I gotta ask..did you ever get to see SP/J live?

Only in youtube vids.

Why, was he not one of pop music's biggest stars? I might have exaggerated a little.

[tater1977]

As much as it "comforted" Perry that his great voice turned ordinary songs into hits to be heard to this day. "Good to see that [Jon] knows where his bread is buttered" especially since it has been butter-less since Perry left.

"My greatest success came with Steve Perry." Jon Cain / 2011

No argument here, Jon's success came with SP. But per SP, his great success came from Jon and his creative ideas. Us Journey fans are fortunate that such a talented songwriter turned a no-name singer that no one wanted into one of pop music's biggest stars.

Thank you, Mr. Cain for the career of Steve Perry.

LOL Gideon..I gotta ask..did you ever get to see SP/J live?

Only in youtube vids.

Why, was he not one of pop music's biggest stars? I might have exaggerated a little.

LMBO...oh ok...& no you didn't exaggerate ....

[slucero]

potato/potato... lol

[Gideon]

As much as it "comforted" Perry that his great voice turned ordinary songs into hits to be heard to this day. "Good to see that [Jon] knows where his bread is buttered" especially since it has been butter-less since Perry left.

"My greatest success came with Steve Perry." Jon Cain / 2011

No argument here, Jon's success came with SP. But per SP, his great success came from Jon and his creative ideas. Us Journey fans are fortunate that such a talented songwriter turned a no-name singer that no one wanted into one of pop music's biggest stars.

Thank you, Mr. Cain for the career of Steve Perry.

LOL Gideon..I gotta ask..did you ever get to see SP/J live?

Only in youtube vids.

Why, was he not one of pop music's biggest stars? I might have exaggerated a little.

LMBO...oh ok...& no you didn't exaggerate ....

I'm just busting Kor'n's metaphorical balls. He comes in and gives a pro-SP slant, I give a pro-JC one and the board remains in balance.

[Kor'n]

As much as it "comforted" Perry that his great voice turned ordinary songs into hits to be heard to this day. "Good to see that [Jon] knows where his bread is buttered" especially since it has been butter-less since Perry left.

"My greatest success came with Steve Perry." Jon Cain / 2011

No argument here, Jon's success came with SP. But per SP, his great success came from Jon and his creative ideas. Us Journey fans are fortunate that such a talented songwriter turned a no-name singer that no one wanted into one of pop music's biggest stars.

Thank you, Mr. Cain for the career of Steve Perry.

"Us [We] Journey fans are fortunate" that a "no-name singer that no one wanted [turned] "into one of pop music's biggest stars" by using that great voice and songwriting skills, by holding the hands of a crushed writer and turning his song called "rubbish" into a great song that has been covered by others.

"Thank you" Steve Perry for the great songs you created with Journey b/c they were barren before you and barren after you, even though they've pretty much turned themselves into a "tribute band." RS 2008

[Kor'n]

Thank you, SP. Finally Cain gets his due.

Nothing was bigger for Journey than 1981’s “Escape” album. With Jonathan Cain of the Babys joining the band in place of Rolie, it was Journey’s first No. 1 album and spawned four hit singles — “Don’t Stop Believin’,’ “Who’s Crying Now,” “Open Arms” and “Still They Ride” — as well as the rock radio anthem “Stone In Love.” To date it’s sold more than 9.6 million copies in the U.S. and 12.4 million worldwide.

“I have to attribute that to Jonathan coming in and joining the writing team,” Perry says. “Jon had so many creative ideas, and he and I did a lot of lyrics back then, too. It just turned another corner...thought at the time it felt like we were just doing more music the same way we always had. But time has shown it to be more of a quintessential album than some of the others.”

Too bad all those "creative ideas" went by the wayside when Steve Perry left them. Guess Jon had no one to help him bring them to fruition. He could not go to Waite for Waite called "Open Arms"...what?

Possibly, but then it probably comforted Jon that he was responsible for Journey's greatest success. Good to see that SP knows where his bread is buttered.

Jon was the final piece to the puzzle. The success came from the chemistry that happened when the 5 of them got together. Jon was a big piece of that but not the sole reason. It seems like Steve is starting to realize these things as he gets older and more reflective. He certainly has had really good things to say about his former bandmates in all the interviews he has done.

If the 5 of them had realized this point back in 1983, I think we would have gotten a couple more great albums from the band.

Well said, but then wisdom is supposed to come with age is it not? So it's not surprising that SP has these revelations now and is more vocal about them. Too bad Jon gets the shaft in the long run, but it's good that SP gives him his proper due.

More than they do for him!

[Gideon]

by holding the hands of a crushed writer

Since SP is the one who is reduced to tears during the mixing process and refuses to release new material to the public out of chronic insecurity, maybe Jon could reciprocate here?

even though they've pretty much turned themselves into a "tribute band." RS 2008

Rolling Stone also says SP is about 70 places lower than Bob Dylan on the singing totem pole and opined that the man's own mother wouldn't have missed him in Journey when they were playing with Kevin Chalfant. Beneath Bob Dylan and forgotten by your own mother? Ouch.

More than they do for him!

Nah, Jon and Neal are very generous with their praise for SP's contributions and talents. The fact that they don't rename the band or kneel before a bust of him before every concert doesn't exactly constitute shortchanging the man.

[Gideon]

By the way, it's good to see you back Kor'n and I mean that. The board is missing most of its rogues gallery so discussions like these are few and far between.

[slucero]

... the same Rolling Stone that hates all things Journey... hardly a barometer...


Without Cain.. Perry hasn't done shit

Without Perry... Cain hasn't either..

[Gideon]

... the same Rolling Stone that hate all things Journey... hardly a barometer...

Yep, and my point speaks to just that. RS might consider present!Journey a tribute band, but they've never had much respect for the band or SP anyway.

[slucero]

yup.

[Kor'n]

by holding the hands of a crushed writer

Since SP is the one who is reduced to tears during the mixing process and refuses to release new material to the public out of chronic insecurity, maybe Jon could reciprocate here?

Quite sure Jon could have used another hand to hold after the colossal flop of Eclipse. Maybe they should have put on stop on that difficult "mixing process and [not] release new material to the public out of" their arrogance in believing s/one from YouTube could restore them back to glory.

And, I believe Perry was also reduced to tears when his mom died. I guess all of that falls under what RS calls "passionate sincerity." Too bad Pineda does not suffer from "chronic insecurity" for that may have pushed him to co-write on his homeland song "City of Hope" instead of looking forward to aping Augeri on Arrival.

even though they've pretty much turned themselves into a "tribute band." RS 2008

Rolling Stone also says SP is about 70 places lower than Bob Dylan on the singing totem pole and opined that the man's own mother wouldn't have missed him in Journey when they were playing with Kevin Chalfant. Beneath Bob Dylan and forgotten by your own mother? Ouch.

Yep, read many times. Do you mean the "turkey farmer" is on the Greatest Singer's list and the child-prodigy "noodler" is not on the Greatest Guitarist list? By the way how many singers are there in the world? How could great singers like Ann Wilson, Dennis DeYoung, John Farnham, etc. not even make the list. Nice Steven Tyler slide in at 99. Quite surprise RS would do right and include Perry on the list, but guess RS can deal with reality "pure tone and passionate sincerity, undeniable."

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ ... z1lOT6DLB3

Read it many times prior....

Perhaps that Chalfant gathering was the beginning of Journey's cloning process that could make him be "forgotten by his mother." Guess cloning can even fool mom:

"Meanwhile, Journey is on the road with a new singer, Steve Augeri, who sounds enough like Perry to warrant suspicions that Scottish cloning scientists were somehow involved in the auditioning process." RS 12.15.98 Ouch!

More than they do for him!

Nah, Jon and Neal are very generous with their praise for SP's contributions and talents. The fact that they don't rename the band or kneel before a bust of him before every concert doesn't exactly constitute shortchanging the man.

"Actions speak louder than words." But the new guy could NOT deliver the big one - Eclipse, as they have been incapable of delivering in the past.

[Kor'n]

... the same Rolling Stone that hate all things Journey... hardly a barometer...

Yep, and my point speaks to just that. RS might consider present!Journey a tribute band, but they've never had much respect for the band or SP anyway.

Yep, but he made the list and Schon did not.

[Kor'n]

... the same Rolling Stone that hates all things Journey... hardly a barometer...


Without Cain.. Perry hasn't done shit

Street Talk, multi-platinum and FTLOSM - gold, and now RETIRED.

Without Perry... Cain hasn't either..

Revelation fluke and Eclipse flop, and may want to consider RETIREMENT.

[slucero]

... the same Rolling Stone that hate all things Journey... hardly a barometer...

Yep, and my point speaks to just that. RS might consider present!Journey a tribute band, but they've never had much respect for the band or SP anyway.

Yep, but he made the list and Schon did not.

what does that have to do with Cain...

[annie89509]

... the same Rolling Stone that hate all things Journey... hardly a barometer...

Yep, and my point speaks to just that. RS might consider present!Journey a tribute band, but they've never had much respect for the band or SP anyway.

Yep, but he made the list and Schon did not.

what does that have to do with Cain...

He didn't make RS list either?
btw...just wanted to comment that we're seemingly getting a kinder and gentler Giddy... the kid is alright .

[slucero]

... the same Rolling Stone that hates all things Journey... hardly a barometer...


Without Cain.. Perry hasn't done shit

Street Talk, multi-platinum and FTLOSM - gold, and now RETIRED.

Without Perry... Cain hasn't either..

Revelation fluke and Eclipse flop, and may want to consider RETIREMENT.

1984 - Street Talk
1994 - FLOTSM

Perry's last music release was 18 years ago... and his inactivity is essentially retirement... until he puts out something... anything....




2001: Arrival
2002: Red 13 (EP)
2005: Generations
2008: Revelation
2011: Eclipse


Compared to Perry (that's what we're doing right?) Journey has been releasing stuff pretty consistently.. and Arrival is a great album..and though they may not be selling as well.. and while their current lineup may appear "tired", retired they are not.



The reality is that Cain nor Perry has achieved the kind of success they achieved together with the Journey albums... the success they BOTH contributed to.


TODAY

Perry is only relevant TODAY because of co-writing and singing JOURNEY SONGS... Street Talk, and FLOTSM (as much as I love those albums too) are NOT why GLEE and THE SORPANOS chose DSB...

Cain is only relevant TODAY because of co-writing JOURNEY SONGS... his 2 Babys albums (Union Jacks and On The Edge), nor his TEN solo albums are not why people remember him.


This is a circular and pointless argument.