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Postby shaneslatts » Sun Aug 26, 2018 8:22 am

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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby slucero » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:23 am

No Erasin'.... not "No Eracin".... :mrgreen:




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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Sun Aug 26, 2018 10:44 pm

I mean, compared to what? "Foolish Heart", "Strung Out", "You Better Wait", or "I Stand Alone"?
They've all been great songs. Hard to choose.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby perryfan61 » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:08 am

I would say no. It's a good song, I'm really enjoying it, but it's not better than Strung Out or Foolish Heart.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby shaneslatts » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:42 am

slucero wrote:No Erasin'.... not "No Eracin".... :mrgreen:


I changed the spellin on porpice.




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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby shaneslatts » Mon Aug 27, 2018 12:45 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:I mean, compared to what? "Foolish Heart", "Strung Out", "You Better Wait", or "I Stand Alone"?
They've all been great songs. Hard to choose.


I agree... and to me, that's a good thing because it means that his ability to write (or co-write) hasn't diminished.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Sighlence » Tue Aug 28, 2018 3:25 am

I don't find myself comparing it to past songs. This all just seems different and i'ma just soakin' it alllllll in.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Marabelle » Tue Aug 28, 2018 4:50 am

Oh Sherry for me was the music of a young, cannot get enough of your love and sorry if I screwed up; please forgive me song. No Erasin is an older storyteller who has loved a few more women with a few more experiences with some mistakes of the heart and some forgiveness for himself; I love them both but today can relate to what he’s singing about. It’s life with all the discovery of life with the bruises and the pain, but love being the saving grace.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby shaneslatts » Tue Aug 28, 2018 6:55 am

Marabelle wrote:Oh Sherry for me was the music of a young, cannot get enough of your love and sorry if I screwed up; please forgive me song. No Erasin is an older storyteller who has loved a few more women with a few more experiences with some mistakes of the heart and some forgiveness for himself; I love them both but today can relate to what he’s singing about. It’s life with all the discovery of life with the bruises and the pain, but love being the saving grace.



I agree... It almost seems like "No Erasin" is a bookend to "Oh Sherrie".
That's the vibe I get from it.

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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Pacfanweb » Tue Aug 28, 2018 7:12 am

Marabelle wrote:Oh Sherry for me was the music of a young, cannot get enough of your love and sorry if I screwed up; please forgive me song. No Erasin is an older storyteller who has loved a few more women with a few more experiences with some mistakes of the heart and some forgiveness for himself; I love them both but today can relate to what he’s singing about. It’s life with all the discovery of life with the bruises and the pain, but love being the saving grace.


We are ALL in different places now. The storyteller and his audience.

I don't find it useful to compare because they are just such different times in all our lives.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby carleysdad » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:58 am

shaneslatts wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oawl9e-tFVM


OMG people....are you delirious? "No Erasin'" is absolutely dreadful. I'm a long-time (1979 to be exact) Journey/Steve Perry fan, and have bought just about everything they (the band and most of the side projects) have put out over the years. But I would have rather SP stayed retired than to embarrass himself (and his fans) with this rubbish. The songwriting is positively atrocious and his voice is completely shot. To compare this horrible single with the likes of Oh Sherrie (it's not spelled Oh Sherry) is utterly ridiculous. I understand that SP fans were dying to hear his voice again, but if this is what he sounds like (to me it sounds like a seal being clubbed) he should have stayed retired.

Side note: Just to make sure I wasn't being overly critical, I forwarded the YouTube link of the No Erasin' video to my wife and a few friends who I know love Journey and SP. EVERYONE responded the same way.....and it wasn't in a positive manner. To quote my wife, "That's so bad. Steve should have stayed retired."

I think those of you who are saying that you like this song were just soooo desperate to hear something (anything) from Perry, that he could have recorded the Pledge of Allegiance and you would say its great.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Memorex » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:40 am

carleysdad wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oawl9e-tFVM


OMG people....are you delirious? "No Erasin'" is absolutely dreadful. I'm a long-time (1979 to be exact) Journey/Steve Perry fan, and have bought just about everything they (the band and most of the side projects) have put out over the years. But I would have rather SP stayed retired than to embarrass himself (and his fans) with this rubbish. The songwriting is positively atrocious and his voice is completely shot. To compare this horrible single with the likes of Oh Sherrie (it's not spelled Oh Sherry) is utterly ridiculous. I understand that SP fans were dying to hear his voice again, but if this is what he sounds like (to me it sounds like a seal being clubbed) he should have stayed retired.

Side note: Just to make sure I wasn't being overly critical, I forwarded the YouTube link of the No Erasin' video to my wife and a few friends who I know love Journey and SP. EVERYONE responded the same way.....and it wasn't in a positive manner. To quote my wife, "That's so bad. Steve should have stayed retired."

I think those of you who are saying that you like this song were just soooo desperate to hear something (anything) from Perry, that he could have recorded the Pledge of Allegiance and you would say its great.


The old if you don't agree with me you must be wrong nugget.

I don't know. I just like the song and I think he sounds great. But I don't need you to feel the same.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Greg » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:53 am

carleysdad wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oawl9e-tFVM


OMG people....are you delirious? "No Erasin'" is absolutely dreadful. I'm a long-time (1979 to be exact) Journey/Steve Perry fan, and have bought just about everything they (the band and most of the side projects) have put out over the years. But I would have rather SP stayed retired than to embarrass himself (and his fans) with this rubbish. The songwriting is positively atrocious and his voice is completely shot. To compare this horrible single with the likes of Oh Sherrie (it's not spelled Oh Sherry) is utterly ridiculous. I understand that SP fans were dying to hear his voice again, but if this is what he sounds like (to me it sounds like a seal being clubbed) he should have stayed retired.

Side note: Just to make sure I wasn't being overly critical, I forwarded the YouTube link of the No Erasin' video to my wife and a few friends who I know love Journey and SP. EVERYONE responded the same way.....and it wasn't in a positive manner. To quote my wife, "That's so bad. Steve should have stayed retired."

I think those of you who are saying that you like this song were just soooo desperate to hear something (anything) from Perry, that he could have recorded the Pledge of Allegiance and you would say its great.



Or, maybe people just like the song? :roll:
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby tater1977 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:54 am

carleysdad wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oawl9e-tFVM


OMG people....are you delirious? "No Erasin'" is absolutely dreadful. I'm a long-time (1979 to be exact) Journey/Steve Perry fan, and have bought just about everything they (the band and most of the side projects) have put out over the years. But I would have rather SP stayed retired than to embarrass himself (and his fans) with this rubbish. The songwriting is positively atrocious and his voice is completely shot. To compare this horrible single with the likes of Oh Sherrie (it's not spelled Oh Sherry) is utterly ridiculous. I understand that SP fans were dying to hear his voice again, but if this is what he sounds like (to me it sounds like a seal being clubbed) he should have stayed retired.

Side note: Just to make sure I wasn't being overly critical, I forwarded the YouTube link of the No Erasin' video to my wife and a few friends who I know love Journey and SP. EVERYONE responded the same way.....and it wasn't in a positive manner. To quote my wife, "That's so bad. Steve should have stayed retired."

I think those of you who are saying that you like this song were just soooo desperate to hear something (anything) from Perry, that he could have recorded the Pledge of Allegiance and you would say its great.

Thanks for your layman review, but I'll stick with SP's and Andrew's professional reviews. :wink:
IF after, I listen to it OCT 5th and my opinion changes, then I'll let you know. :roll:
PS - I been a fan of SP/J and their solo stuff since March of 1978.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby tater1977 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:04 am

carleysdad wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oawl9e-tFVM


I understand that SP fans were dying to hear his voice again, but if this is what he sounds like (to me it sounds like a seal being clubbed) he should have stayed retired.


Bet that makes you feel big, huh :?:
Everyone can have different opinions, but that doesn't
give you permission to be an ass.
If you're going to critique SP, at least use something
original and not something you've recycled from 40 years ago dude.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby scarab » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:31 am

No Erasin' would have fit so well on Street Talk. To me it sounds in the vibe of You Should be Happy.
Yes, his voice is more raspy (and no where near shot). The harmonies and the bridge/ending are great on this song.
Only semi not good part is the first verse, after a great guitar opening, it doesnt quite fit, but redeems itself the rest of the song.
Even Oh Sherrie had its not so good parts, mainly the guitar solo.

It has 2plus million views on youtube, at least people want to hear it.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby brywool » Fri Aug 31, 2018 7:49 am

No Erasin's good.
Oh Sherrie's good.
You Better Wait is better than BOTH.
NO. He's NOT Steve F'ing Perry. But he's Arnel F'ing Pineda and I'm okay with that.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby perryfan61 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:18 am

carleysdad wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oawl9e-tFVM


OMG people....are you delirious? "No Erasin'" is absolutely dreadful. I'm a long-time (1979 to be exact) Journey/Steve Perry fan, and have bought just about everything they (the band and most of the side projects) have put out over the years. But I would have rather SP stayed retired than to embarrass himself (and his fans) with this rubbish. The songwriting is positively atrocious and his voice is completely shot. To compare this horrible single with the likes of Oh Sherrie (it's not spelled Oh Sherry) is utterly ridiculous. I understand that SP fans were dying to hear his voice again, but if this is what he sounds like (to me it sounds like a seal being clubbed) he should have stayed retired.

Side note: Just to make sure I wasn't being overly critical, I forwarded the YouTube link of the No Erasin' video to my wife and a few friends who I know love Journey and SP. EVERYONE responded the same way.....and it wasn't in a positive manner. To quote my wife, "That's so bad. Steve should have stayed retired."

I think those of you who are saying that you like this song were just soooo desperate to hear something (anything) from Perry, that he could have recorded the Pledge of Allegiance and you would say its great.


My initial impression of the song was not great either, but the more I listen to it, the more I like it. It really does grow on you. And to judge the whole album on just one song is jumping the gun, IMHO.

If you feel the same way after hearing the whole album, then fine, that's your considered opinion, but to throw this very critical review out there on the basis of one song is not being realistic. Even Lora said that this was not her favourite song either, so come back when you've heard the whole album.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby jrny84 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:48 am

I was just listening to FTLOSM, the title track. Really like this one too. I've never actually listened to this whole album through, but there are some good ones on there.

As for "No Erasin", I think its a great one as well! Very catchy chorus and love the sentimental feel.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Gideon » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:53 am

carleysdad wrote:I think those of you who are saying that you like this song were just soooo desperate to hear something (anything) from Perry, that he could have recorded the Pledge of Allegiance and you would say its great.


Speaking as someone who's historically never been shy about criticizing any member of Journey, past or present, including SP, I'll open by saying I liked the song. Was it perfect? No. Was it up to par with his previous efforts vocally? Not even close. But that was a damn good chorus and I'm excited to hear him again. I played the song on a continuous loop for 8 hours the first day and I'd pay big $$$ to see him live if he decides to tour.

That said... ^^ Carley's Dad has a point here. Scrolling through the YouTube comments, I've seen plenty of comments from people saying nothing's changed since 1981... they're full of shit.

There's a thing called confirmation bias at play and it encourages us to simply reaffirm what we wanna hear. As much as I wanna hear SP put out a fantastic album, if he doesn't... I'm OK saying as much, however respectfully.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Pacfanweb » Fri Aug 31, 2018 12:49 pm

His voice isn't "shot" just because he can't sing super high like he could 35 years ago.

He still has the same control over his voice and can emote through it just like he always could.

But it's not "shot". Not like he sounds like Paul Stanley or David Coverdale do now. When you think of voices that are "shot", those are the prime examples....not someone like Perry.
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Postby shaneslatts » Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:43 pm

Pacfanweb wrote:His voice isn't "shot" just because he can't sing super high like he could 35 years ago.

He still has the same control over his voice and can emote through it just like he always could.

But it's not "shot". Not like he sounds like Paul Stanley or David Coverdale do now. When you think of voices that are "shot", those are the prime examples....not someone like Perry.


Saying Perry sounds like a "seal being clubbed to death" is idiotic, tbh.
He just sounds like an older Steve Perry.
Sinatra should have never recorded "New York, New York" because he didn't sound like he did in 1950.
It's as dumb as spelling "Sherri" Sherry or "Erasin' Eracin.
No.. wait...It's much, much dumber. :mrgreen:
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Monker » Fri Aug 31, 2018 5:37 pm

carleysdad wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oawl9e-tFVM


OMG people....are you delirious? "No Erasin'" is absolutely dreadful. I'm a long-time (1979 to be exact) Journey/Steve Perry fan, and have bought just about everything they (the band and most of the side projects) have put out over the years. But I would have rather SP stayed retired than to embarrass himself (and his fans) with this rubbish. The songwriting is positively atrocious and his voice is completely shot. To compare this horrible single with the likes of Oh Sherrie (it's not spelled Oh Sherry) is utterly ridiculous. I understand that SP fans were dying to hear his voice again, but if this is what he sounds like (to me it sounds like a seal being clubbed) he should have stayed retired.

Side note: Just to make sure I wasn't being overly critical, I forwarded the YouTube link of the No Erasin' video to my wife and a few friends who I know love Journey and SP. EVERYONE responded the same way.....and it wasn't in a positive manner. To quote my wife, "That's so bad. Steve should have stayed retired."

I think those of you who are saying that you like this song were just soooo desperate to hear something (anything) from Perry, that he could have recorded the Pledge of Allegiance and you would say its great.

You will never convince anybody of that here. Imo, this song and album exist only because Perry wanted to express himself one.last time. It is more for those who have said they would buy Perry singing the phone book than those who listen with a critical ear. I doubt he cares what you or I think.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby carleysdad » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:01 pm

perryfan61 wrote:
carleysdad wrote:
shaneslatts wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oawl9e-tFVM


OMG people....are you delirious? "No Erasin'" is absolutely dreadful. I'm a long-time (1979 to be exact) Journey/Steve Perry fan, and have bought just about everything they (the band and most of the side projects) have put out over the years. But I would have rather SP stayed retired than to embarrass himself (and his fans) with this rubbish. The songwriting is positively atrocious and his voice is completely shot. To compare this horrible single with the likes of Oh Sherrie (it's not spelled Oh Sherry) is utterly ridiculous. I understand that SP fans were dying to hear his voice again, but if this is what he sounds like (to me it sounds like a seal being clubbed) he should have stayed retired.

Side note: Just to make sure I wasn't being overly critical, I forwarded the YouTube link of the No Erasin' video to my wife and a few friends who I know love Journey and SP. EVERYONE responded the same way.....and it wasn't in a positive manner. To quote my wife, "That's so bad. Steve should have stayed retired."

I think those of you who are saying that you like this song were just soooo desperate to hear something (anything) from Perry, that he could have recorded the Pledge of Allegiance and you would say its great.


My initial impression of the song was not great either, but the more I listen to it, the more I like it. It really does grow on you. And to judge the whole album on just one song is jumping the gun, IMHO.

If you feel the same way after hearing the whole album, then fine, that's your considered opinion, but to throw this very critical review out there on the basis of one song is not being realistic. Even Lora said that this was not her favourite song either, so come back when you've heard the whole album.


I totally agree with you perryfan61. Hopefully the rest of the album is better than the first single. I will admit that the chorus of "No Erasin'" is somewhat catchy, but the rest of the lyrics suck. As a matter of fact, I cringe every time I listen to the song because the lyrics are soooo bad.

As for the rest of you who are bashing on me for my previous comments, I apologize if I offended anyone. That wasn't my intent. I TOTALLY understand that Perry is almost 70 and his voice has changed dramatically. I just wish he would have used his "deeper" (more mature) voice instead of attempting to use his falsetto. His falsetto no longer sounds good.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:45 pm

carleysdad wrote: I just wish he would have used his "deeper" (more mature) voice instead of attempting to use his falsetto. His falsetto no longer sounds good.


Song sounds like mostly full chest voice to me. Not falsetto.
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Postby The_Noble_Cause » Fri Aug 31, 2018 11:46 pm

Monker wrote:Imo, this song and album exist only because Perry wanted to express himself one.last time.


Perry has openly said he made the album because he finally had something to say again. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Sighlence » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:11 am

Meh...there will always be those who want to shit on the parade. For the record: Me, my wife and a few of MY hardcore Journey/SP fans (who didn’t need me to tell them he had a new single out) cancel you out. I didn’t delve into it with high expectations from someone who has been away from it all for 20+ years so i wasn’t expecting a 29 or 49yr old Perry. It took my ears two or three listens before i turned to my wife with a smile and said “He’s still got it”. The voice is still there, he just needs to use the the instrument. Looking forward to the rest of the Album.

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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Art Vandelay » Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:30 am

I played No Eracin' for my two daughters in the car the other night. They're 14 and 10 and are part of the era that sings Don't Stop Believin' everywhere and all the time.

I didn't say anything about the song, I just put it on. My oldest said she liked the beat and asked who it was. I told her it was Steve Perry,who used to sing in Journey. She said, "oh, he's the guy who sings Don't Stop Believin' He sounds older, but I can tell it's him."

They were both humming the tune for the rest of the night. And that was all based on their judgement.
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Postby tater1977 » Sat Sep 01, 2018 2:03 am

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carleysdad wrote:


OMG people....are you delirious? "No Erasin'" is absolutely dreadful. But I would have rather SP stayed retired than to embarrass himself (and his fans) with this rubbish. . but if this is what he sounds like (to me it sounds like a seal being clubbed) he should have stayed retired.[/quote]

As for the rest of you who are bashing on me for my previous comments, I apologize if I offended anyone. That wasn't my intent. [/quote]
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Re: Is "No Eracin" Steve Perrys best Single since "Oh Sherry

Postby Monker » Sat Sep 01, 2018 3:22 am

The_Noble_Cause wrote:
Monker wrote:Imo, this song and album exist only because Perry wanted to express himself one.last time.


Perry has openly said he made the album because he finally had something to say again. There's nothing wrong with that.

Well, I am glad Steve Perry agrees with me,
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