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Postby Zedul » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:23 am

I cannot freakin believe it!

I am so happy.... from an 0-12 season to outplaying LSU and barely losing, to slapping Idaho... and now finally dropping USC!

My alma mater has a football team again!

Sorry.

I just had to let it out.

And gratz to Florida, with SC out of the title game picture the championship road got much easier. ;)
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Postby Ehwmatt » Sun Sep 20, 2009 9:28 am

File this one under the "Why college football should have a fuckin playoff."

They didn't even have their QB today and now one loss ruins their season as usual.

Now, I'd like to put a disclaimer on this certain situation and say that I don't believe USC was as good as its ranking to begin with - they didn't look good at all against OSU! But still...
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Re: Yea Huskies, Yea Huskies!!!!

Postby Rockindeano » Sun Sep 20, 2009 11:25 am

Zedul wrote:I cannot freakin believe it!

I am so happy.... from an 0-12 season to outplaying LSU and barely losing, to slapping Idaho... and now finally dropping USC!

My alma mater has a football team again!

Sorry.

I just had to let it out.

And gratz to Florida, with SC out of the title game picture the championship road got much easier. ;)


1- I officially hate you being that you are a Dawg.

2- SC lost early, they are anything but out of it. I hate SC, but I'll take a road loss to a now pretty decent UW team on the road, a tough schedule(unlike UF), so a one loss early may be ok...Boise St now looks like a team to beat.

3- Florida didn't really impress me. They run that chickenshit snap the ball and let Timmy run wherever he can won't work against LSU, ALA or even Georgia. Look, they're good, but they lost some speed at receiver and Tebow showed today he isn't a pocket passer with a shotgun arm.

4- A one loss USC is a much better team than an undefeated Penn St.
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Postby Maui Tom » Sun Sep 20, 2009 12:34 pm

Congrats Z.....go crazy....:)
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Postby Arkansas » Sun Sep 20, 2009 3:40 pm

Ehwmatt wrote:... and now one loss ruins their season as usual. ...


The 'loss' didn't ruin their season. THEY ruined their own season. If THEY were deserving of greatness, then they wouldn't have lost the game.

Btw, I do agree with having a playoff system. But regardless, truly great teams don't lose.



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Postby Maui Tom » Sun Sep 20, 2009 5:45 pm

SC fucks up every year...Harbaugh at Stanford talked Kiffin like smack a couple years back and took his hopelessly undermanned Stanford team into the Coliseum and WON.....

I think Pete is a great recruiter and shit but a terrible game coach....
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Re: Yea Huskies, Yea Huskies!!!!

Postby ScarabGator » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:10 pm

Rockindeano wrote:
Zedul wrote:I cannot freakin believe it!

I am so happy.... from an 0-12 season to outplaying LSU and barely losing, to slapping Idaho... and now finally dropping USC!

My alma mater has a football team again!

Sorry.

I just had to let it out.

And gratz to Florida, with SC out of the title game picture the championship road got much easier. ;)


1- I officially hate you being that you are a Dawg.

2- SC lost early, they are anything but out of it. I hate SC, but I'll take a road loss to a now pretty decent UW team on the road, a tough schedule(unlike UF), so a one loss early may be ok...Boise St now looks like a team to beat.

3- Florida didn't really impress me. They run that chickenshit snap the ball and let Timmy run wherever he can won't work against LSU, ALA or even Georgia. Look, they're good, but they lost some speed at receiver and Tebow showed today he isn't a pocket passer with a shotgun arm.

4- A one loss USC is a much better team than an undefeated Penn St.


Dean, you may find this hard to believe but I agree with you about our WR situation. No Percy Harvin and no Louis Murphy really hurts. We do have talent in that spot but its unproven for the most part. Riley Cooper is a stud though. Tennessee has always been a big SEC rival for us and they came in with nothing to lose. They played a great game. But if Tebow doesnt fumble at the goalline late in the 4th quarter the score is 30-6. Anyway, a win is a win and knowing Urban Meyer this team will get even better from this. I was at the game yesterday and let me tell you-it was electric, probably the most insane crowd Ive seen in a while. Bad thing was police was beefed up on campus because of expected friction between Tenn fans and ours. So your boy here had to get real creative to sneak beer around campus....
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Postby Saint John » Sun Sep 20, 2009 10:43 pm

Ironically, my 82 year old aunt from Seattle is in town and the first thing she said to me last night was "Dan, do you know what the score of Huskies game was?" When I told her she almost started crying. My cousin played baseball at UW, was the Pac 10 North MVP back to back seasons, was drafted in the 3rd round by the Orioles and now coaches there (at UW). His baseball career was cut short by a horrifying knee injury suffered when sliding into second base. Numerous surgeries couldn't fix his knee properly. Shame, the kid hit over .700 in high school, tore it up in college and the scouts were really high on him.
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Postby Zedul » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:04 am

Arkansas wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:... and now one loss ruins their season as usual. ...


The 'loss' didn't ruin their season. THEY ruined their own season. If THEY were deserving of greatness, then they wouldn't have lost the game.

Btw, I do agree with having a playoff system. But regardless, truly great teams don't lose.

later~


I've seen many truly great teams over the years lose. I can probably list at least a dozen instances when a truly great team has lost a game.

Of course this does not look like a great USC team. ;)

Like any conference the teams really start to hate it each other so it get's harder to run the board once people start to REALLY hate a school that has dominated for a long time like SC has. Everyone is motivated to play their hearts out against you.


Then you schedule Ohio State... a big time program way out in the east coast and come back and play a team that was the worst in the history of the Pac-10 but are MUCH BETTER this year, and suddenly your motivation isn't there and you get ambushed!

It happens all the time. Especially when your starting QB goes down!
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:11 am

Arkansas wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:... and now one loss ruins their season as usual. ...


The 'loss' didn't ruin their season. THEY ruined their own season. If THEY were deserving of greatness, then they wouldn't have lost the game.

Btw, I do agree with having a playoff system. But regardless,[b] truly great teams don't lose. [/b]



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Truly the most boneheaded comment I've ever read here! Have you ever played a sport at any level past the sixth grade? Anyone who has knows that ANYBODY can have an off day on a given day. Anyone who has also knows that sports is all about matchups and sometimes, inexplicably, a team/player will pose problems for a very good team. That's the nature of sports. Just because teams have gone unbeaten before doesn't make your proclamation true. Florida won it all last year - they lost! I'd venture to say that was a "truly great team."

Just because college football is retarded and doesn't have a playoff system doesn't make a ridiculous assertion that "truly great teams never lose" true. Give me a break.

And of course, I will qualify all this as I did in my original post and echo Zedul just above me that this wasn't a "truly great USC team" by indication of this game and the lucky win against a very good, but flawed OSU team.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:11 am

Arkansas wrote: But regardless, truly great teams don't lose.

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I couldn't disagree more. Unlike any other sport, lesser football can defeat superior football teams. It happens ALL THE TIME in football...even with "great" teams. Making a statement like "truly great teams don't lose" is simply nuts, because it happens endlessly in football. A team that is "great" that puts up eye popping numbers all over the place doesn't become any less "great" just because they happen to lose a game! College football will NEVER EVER EVER be taken seriously (and I'm not talking about by the yahoo sports fans who have zero other sports or teams to pay any attention to, or those who are alums or wanna be alums) by the masses until they implement a playoff system. Anyone who truly believes that a fucking computer selecting a "National Champion" makes a bit of sense needs their fucking head examined! It's a moronic system that's a complete embarrassment to competition!
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:14 am

Enigma869 wrote:
Arkansas wrote: But regardless, truly great teams don't lose.

later~



I couldn't disagree more. Unlike any other sport, lesser football can defeat superior football teams. It happens ALL THE TIME in football...even with "great" teams. College football will NEVER EVER EVER be taken seriously (and I'm not talking about by the yahoo sports fans who have zero other sports or teams to pay any attention to, or those who are alums or wanna be alums) by the masses until they implement a playoff system. Anyone who truly believes that a fucking computer selecting a "National Champion" makes a bit of sense needs their fucking head examined! It's a moronic system that's a complete embarrassment to competition!


I wouldn't even say it's unlike any other sport, John. Matchups, days where you show up and just don't have "it" for whatever reason, injuries, and even plain dumb luck can play a factor in individual sports like tennis all the way to very team-oriented efforts like football.

Totally agree with everything else.

Edit: I always remember the adage "Anyone can lose." My dad used to say that to me when I was all pissed off about losing a game or a match to a team or someone I felt I shouldn't have.
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:27 am

Ehwmatt wrote:
I wouldn't even say it's unlike any other sport, John. Matchups, days where you show up and just don't have "it" for whatever reason, injuries, and even plain dumb luck can play a factor in individual sports like tennis all the way to very team-oriented efforts like football.

Totally agree with everything else.



It's unlike any other sport for MANY reasons. If you look at the pro leagues, football is the only sport that the regular season has fewer than 80 freakin' games, so EVERY game is VERY significant! The playoff system in pro football is THE ONLY sport that features a "one and done" competition. I played competitive sports for many years, and my experience has been that more times than not in a multi-game playoff system, the better team usually wins. In a one game matchup, ANYTHING can, and usually does happen, and the best team doesn't always win. Just because Washington beat USC doesn't mean Washington is the better team. It simply means that for one afternoon on a Saturday in September, they played better than USC did. I'm fairly certain that if Washington played USC 100 times, they'd lose to them 99 times. I don't follow college football nearly as closely as some do on here, but I don't believe Washington won a single game last season and prior to yesterday had lost about 16 games in a row. Again, it's football, and ANYTHING can happen. Teams who are supposed to win don't always win. Hell, Michigan lost to Appalachian State (A division 1AA) school. That's eqivalent to Applachian State losing to a high school team!
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:30 am

Enigma869 wrote:
Ehwmatt wrote:
I wouldn't even say it's unlike any other sport, John. Matchups, days where you show up and just don't have "it" for whatever reason, injuries, and even plain dumb luck can play a factor in individual sports like tennis all the way to very team-oriented efforts like football.

Totally agree with everything else.



It's unlike any other sport for MANY reasons. If you look at the pro leagues, football is the only sport that the regular season has fewer than 80 freakin' games, so EVERY game is VERY significant! The playoff system in pro football is THE ONLY sport that features a "one and done" competition. I played competitive sports for many years, and my experience has been that more times than not in a multi-game playoff system, the better team usually wins. In a one game matchup, ANYTHING can, and usually does happen, and the best team doesn't always win. Just because Washington beat USC doesn't mean Washington is the better team. It simply means that for one afternoon on a Saturday in September, they played better than USC did. I'm fairly certain that if Washington played USC 100 times, they'd lose to them 99 times. I don't follow college football nearly as closely as some do on here, but I don't believe Washington won a single game last season and prior to yesterday had lost about 16 games in a row. Again, it's football, and ANYTHING can happen. Teams who are supposed to win don't always win. Hell, Michigan lost to Appalachian State (A division 1AA) school. That's eqivalent to Applachian State losing to a high school team!


I see what you meant now. Agree - the better team will always win in a multi-game series, barring catastrophic injury to key players obviously.
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Postby Zedul » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:19 am

Boy you guys are sure pounding on Arkansas!

Maybe he missed that Giants/Pat's Superbowl a few years back - where that 4th string wide receiver got a football stuck on his helmet and the Giants beat probably the best NFL team since the 85 Bears.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:20 am

Zedul wrote:Boy you guys are sure pounding on Arkansas!

Maybe he missed that Giants/Pat's Superbowl a few years back - where that 4th string wide receiver got a football stuck on his helmet and the Giants beat probably the best NFL team since the 85 Bears.


Exactly the point John and I are making! :lol:
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Postby Enigma869 » Mon Sep 21, 2009 2:38 am

Zedul wrote:Maybe he missed that Giants/Pat's Superbowl a few years back - where that 4th string wide receiver got a football stuck on his helmet and the Giants beat probably the best NFL team since the 85 Bears.



Right...a 4th string wide receiver who doesn't even have a job in the NFL this year! The Giants won that game and good for them. I still don't think they were a better team than the Patriots were that season. In fact, I don't think it was even close. I also don't think the 2001 Patriots were even half as good as the Rams team they beat in the Super Bowl that season!
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:35 am

Saint John wrote: My cousin played baseball at UW, was the Pac 10 North MVP back to back seasons, was drafted in the 3rd round by the Orioles


Poor sonofabitch. :twisted:

and now coaches there (at UW).


Tell him to Go to Hell from me. Tell him I am a Coug, he'll understand.
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Postby Arkansas » Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:09 am

Nice replies, Gents. However, I maintain that if a football team loses, they are NOT truly great. Teams of the highest caliber are very few and far between, especially in college where the rosters change every year.

Truly great means who cares what the matchup is...you're gonna pound the other guys regardless.
Truly great means not having off-days...everyone always fires on all cylinders, no significant mistakes.

Btw, winning a championship only makes you #1 for that season. Doesn't mean you were the best, or anywhere near greatness.



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Postby daytrpr » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:12 pm

That was awesome.
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