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Postby Don » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:22 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/halloffam ... ech-090914

Of all the wacky words of the past week -- including Kanye West's stomping on Taylor Swift's Video Music Award, Serena Williams' threat to ball-stuff a line judge and Rep. Joe Wilson's disrespecting President Obama in the middle of a congressional address -- the only ones I can defend came during Michael Jordan's Hall of Fame induction speech. Jordan spoke from the heart. The thing is, his heart's as cold as liquid nitrogen.

If you enjoyed all of Jordan's acrobatic feats, his scoring outbursts and (most of all) his clutch performances, then you can't say you were disappointed in his attitude upon finally reaching basketball's Olympus. They're inseparable. You don't get Jordan the G.O.A.T. without the E-G-O. You don't get his triumphing again and again without his using every sleight -- real or perceived -- to motivate himself.

Deep inside Jordan is "an assassin," as former Chicago Bulls assistant coach John Bach once described him. And so when it was his turn to take the stage in Springfield, Mass., the final act after we heard from a gracious David Robinson, a surprisingly funny John Stockton, a thoughtful C. Vivian Stringer, and an uncomfortable-at-the-thought-of-speaking-about-himself Jerry Sloan, Jordan aimed his sight and gave thanks and payback to every foe and ally who provided him with incentive.

He got the high school coach who cut him and the guy who beat him out for the final spot on the team. He got his beloved North Carolina coach, Dean Smith, for keeping him off the Sports Illustrated cover that went to the upperclassmen instead. He got Pat Riley and Riley's "little" protege, Jeff Van Gundy, for all of their gamesmanship during the Bulls-Knicks rivalry in the '90s. He got his old Chicago general manager/foil Jerry Krause, delivering the final refutation on Krause's ill-advised "organizations win championships" remark. He got every media member who doubted Jordan's ability to win an NBA championship. And he went on an extended riff on Bryon Russell, the man forever frozen in the highlight of Jordan's final shot in a Bulls uniform.

Jordan said that came from Russell's expressing a desire for Jordan to come back from his first retirement so he could guard him. He asked Stockton if he remembered that conversation, prompting the second-greatest reaction shot of the weekend. (The first was Beyonce's how-did-I-get-dragged-into-this? expression following Kanye's mike-grab from Taylor Swift.) Stockton looked as if he had no recollection of that discussion at all, and I wouldn't be surprised if it never actually happened.

Jordan has made stuff up before, most notably when he claimed Bullets rookie LaBradford Smith said, "Nice game, Mike," after lighting up His Airness for 37 points. Jordan returned fire with 36 points in the first half against Smith the next time they played. Years later, he confessed Smith never said anything to him.

When the Bulls played the Cavaliers in the 1993 playoffs and Cleveland guard Gerald Wilkins was asked about his ability to guard Jordan, Wilkins always pointed out that nobody could shut Jordan down, but he had been somewhat effective against him. Jordan scored 43 points in the first game of the series, and afterward said with a smirk, "I guess the 'Jordan-stopper' had a pretty tough night." No one else heard Wilkins call himself a Jordan-stopper. But Jordan did, in his own mind, which shows you just how differently things worked in there.

That's the mindset that created Air Jordan, the basketball player we then proceeded to deify. How could his ego not become inflated to 28 psi when he was continuously asked questions such as "Can you fly?" and "Are you a god?"

Unlike Muhammad Ali, Jordan never ran around proclaiming himself the greatest of all time. Jordan always found a way to tactfully discuss his greatness, acknowledging that he did it better than most, but never putting himself ahead of the legends or the game himself. He usually tailored every word to fit into people's expectations of what someone in his position would say. He even did it earlier in the day of his induction, spending most of his news conference discussing his appreciation for his deceased father, his coaches and the Chicago fans. He was asked and he responded.

For his speech, there were no questions, no prompts. As a result you got Jordan, genuine and unfiltered. It's the way he tends to be when the cameras are turned off and the notepads put away. He cried at the outset of his speech. He had people cringing by the end. But through it all he stayed true to himself and his era.

Shaquille O'Neal made an interesting point during the video tribute: Jordan was a hip-hop version of Dr. J. Maybe Jordan's internal sound system wasn't booming hip-hop tracks -- after he hit The Shot over Craig Ehlo, he referenced an Anita Baker song during his on-court interview -- but Jordan's rise coincided precisely with the ascendance of hip-hop to the top of pop culture. He was drafted the same year Run-DMC (the rappers who did the most to bring hip-hop to the mainstream) released their first album. Jordan won his first Most Valuable Player award in 1988; the first rap song to win a Grammy Award was DJ Jazzy Jeff & The Fresh Prince's "Parents Just Don't Understand" in 1989. By the time he retired, his name worked his way into the lexicon as the standard of excellence (Jay-Z: "I'm the Mike Jordan of recordin'").

At its core, rapping is about verbal battling, using words to put people in their place. That's the cultural shift that mirrored Jordan's career, and you're likely to hear more of it reflected in Hall of Fame speeches from here on as the hip-hop generation makes its way to Springfield. Jordan can't impose his will on the court anymore. He's still as competitive as ever, and his words are all he has left for the fight.
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Postby Ehwmatt » Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:41 am

After his performance there, I would like to see them bring the real reason why he "retired" to try baseball (which my grandma was better at) to light again.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:04 am

Jordan is a dick. That was such a classless arrogant speech and f him in the a for acting like that.

For a guy who is hailed as one of the greatest athletes of all time, he should have been a whole lot more tactful and respectful. He can go to behavioral class with the rest of the summer '09 misfits such as Kanye, Serena, Jermaine and Papa Joe, and Joe Wilson, all of whom need a big spoonful of STFU.
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Postby brywool » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:20 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMMBWJJPjSE

didn't seem that bad to me...
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Postby Don » Tue Sep 22, 2009 6:33 am

This was the article everyone was quoting from Yahoo. I thought the one from ESPN was a little more impartial.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

SPRINGFIELD, Mass. – The tears tumbled, flooding his face and Michael Jordan had yet to march to the microphone at Symphony Hall. He had listened to the genuine stories and speeches of a remarkable class. He had watched a “This is Your Life” video compilation of his basketball genius. Everything flashed before him, a legacy that he’s fought with body and soul to never, ever let go into yesterday.

Yes, Michael Jordan was still fighting it on Friday night, and maybe he always will. Mostly, he was crying over the passing of that old Jordan, and it wouldn’t be long until he climbed out of his suit and back into his uniform and shorts, back into an adolescent act that’s turned so tedious.

This wasn’t a Hall of Fame induction speech, but a bully tripping nerds with lunch trays in the school cafeteria. He had a responsibility to his standing in history, to players past and present, and he let everyone down. This was a night to leave behind the petty grievances and past slights – real and imagined. This was a night to be gracious, to be generous with praise and credit.

“M.J. was introduced as the greatest player ever and he’s still standing there trying to settle scores,” one Hall of Famer said privately later.

Jordan didn’t hurt his image with the NBA community as much as he reminded them of it. “That’s who Michael is,” one high-ranking team executive said. “It wasn’t like he was out of character. There’s no one else who could’ve gotten away with what he did tonight. But it was Michael, and everyone just goes along.”

Jordan wandered through an unfocused and uninspired speech at Symphony Hall, disparaging people who had little to do with his career, like Jeff Van Gundy and Bryon Russell. He ignored people who had so much to do with it, like his personal trainer, Tim Grover. This had been a moving and inspirational night for the NBA – one of its best ceremonies ever – and five minutes into Jordan’s speech it began to spiral into something else. Something unworthy of Jordan’s stature, something beneath him.

Jordan spent more time pointlessly admonishing Van Gundy and Russell for crossing him with taunts a dozen years ago than he did singling out his three children. When he finally acknowledged his family, Jordan blurted, in part, to them, “I wouldn’t want to be you guys.”

Well, um, thanks Dad. He meant it, too. If not the NBA, he should’ve thought of his children before he started spraying fire at everyone.

No one ever feels sorry for Isiah Thomas, but Jordan tsk-tsked him and George Gervin and Magic Johnson for the 1985 All-Star game “freeze-out.” Jordan was a rookie, and the older stars decided to isolate him. It was a long time ago, and he obliterated them all for six NBA championships and five MVP trophies. Isiah and the Ice Man looked stunned, as intimidated 50 feet from the stage as they might have been on the basketball court.

The cheering and laughter egged Jordan on, but this was no public service for him. Just because he was smiling didn’t mean this speech hadn’t dissolved into a downright vicious volley.

Worst of all, he flew his old high school teammate, Leroy Smith, to Springfield for the induction. Remember, Smith was the upperclassman his coach, Pop Herring, kept on varsity over him as a high school sophomore. He waggled to the old coach, “I wanted to make sure you understood: You made a mistake, dude.”

Whatever, Michael. Everyone gets it. Truth be told, everyone got it years ago, but somehow he thinks this is a cleansing exercise. When basketball wanted to celebrate Jordan as the greatest player ever, wanted to honor him for changing basketball everywhere, he was petty and punitive. Yes, there was some wink-wink teasing with his beloved Dean Smith, but make no mistake: Jordan revealed himself to be strangely bitter. You won, Michael. You won it all. Yet he keeps chasing something that he’ll never catch, and sometimes, well, it all seems so hollow for him.

This is why he’s a terrible basketball executive because he still hasn’t learned to channel his aggressions into hard work on that job. For the Charlotte Bobcats, Jordan remains an absentee boss who keeps searching for basketball players on fairways and greens.

From the speeches of David Robinson to John Stockton, Jerry Sloan to Vivian Stringer, there was an unmistakable thread of peace of mind and purpose. At times, they were self-deprecating and deflective of praise. Jordan hasn’t mastered that art, and it reveals him to be oddly insecure. When Jordan should’ve thanked the Bulls’ ex-GM, Jerry Krause, for surrounding him with championship coaches and talent, he ridiculed him. It was me, Jordan was saying. Not him. “The organization didn’t play with the flu in Utah,” Jordan grumbled.

For Jordan to let someone else share in the Bulls’ dynasty never will diminish his greatness. Just enhance it. Only, he’s 46 years old and he still doesn’t get it. Yes, Jordan did gush over Scottie Pippen, but he failed to confess that he had wanted Krause to draft North Carolina’s Joe Wolf. Sometimes, no one is better with half a story, half a truth, than Jordan. All his life, no one’s ever called him on it.

Whatever Jordan wants to believe, understand this: The reason that Van Gundy’s declaration of him as a “con man” so angered him is because it was true on so many levels.

It was part of his competitive edge, part of his marketability and yes, part of his human frailty.

Jordan wasn’t crying over sentimentality on Friday night as much as he was the loss of a life that he returned from two retirements to have again. The finality of his basketball genius hit him at the induction ceremony, hit him hard. Jordan showed little poise and less grace.

Once again, he turned the evening into something bordering between vicious and vapid, an empty exercise for a night that should’ve had staying power, that should’ve been transformative for basketball and its greatest player. What fueled his fury as a thirtysomething now fuels his bitterness as a lost, wandering fortysomething who threatened a comeback at 50.

“Don’t laugh,” Michael Jordan warned.

No one’s laughing anymore.

Once and for all, Michael: It’s over.

You won.
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:02 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jordan is a dick. That was such a classless arrogant speech and f him in the a for acting like that.

For a guy who is hailed as one of the greatest athletes of all time, he should have been a whole lot more tactful and respectful. He can go to behavioral class with the rest of the summer '09 misfits such as Kanye, Serena, Jermaine and Papa Joe, and Joe Wilson, all of whom need a big spoonful of STFU.


What did Jermaine do? I missed it.
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Postby Saint John » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:04 am

steveo777 wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jordan is a dick. That was such a classless arrogant speech and f him in the a for acting like that.

For a guy who is hailed as one of the greatest athletes of all time, he should have been a whole lot more tactful and respectful. He can go to behavioral class with the rest of the summer '09 misfits such as Kanye, Serena, Jermaine and Papa Joe, and Joe Wilson, all of whom need a big spoonful of STFU.


What did Jermaine do? I missed it.


Took his "clothes off." Oh, wait, wrong Jermaine.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:10 am

steveo777 wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jordan is a dick. That was such a classless arrogant speech and f him in the a for acting like that.

For a guy who is hailed as one of the greatest athletes of all time, he should have been a whole lot more tactful and respectful. He can go to behavioral class with the rest of the summer '09 misfits such as Kanye, Serena, Jermaine and Papa Joe, and Joe Wilson, all of whom need a big spoonful of STFU.


What did Jermaine do? I missed it.


Nothing major... unless you count running around all summer with his mouth open trying to make money off Mike.

Jermaine's fake charity? Check. Agenda pushed for burying Mike at Neverland and turning it into a Graceland for Mike fans? Check. (epic fail, but still... check) Selling tickets to a tribute show, yet having no true lineup, while none of the lineup you announced were ever confirmed? Checkadilio.

Is it time for his weekly appearance on Larry King with yet another project yet? :lol: :lol:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:11 am

Saint John wrote:
steveo777 wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jordan is a dick. That was such a classless arrogant speech and f him in the a for acting like that.

For a guy who is hailed as one of the greatest athletes of all time, he should have been a whole lot more tactful and respectful. He can go to behavioral class with the rest of the summer '09 misfits such as Kanye, Serena, Jermaine and Papa Joe, and Joe Wilson, all of whom need a big spoonful of STFU.


What did Jermaine do? I missed it.


Took his "clothes off." Oh, wait, wrong Jermaine.


LMAO! 10 points for a seriously old and obscure reference.
Then again, old and obscure sounds about right for you, eh, Supafly? :lol: :wink:
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Postby Don » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:17 am

We're going there, are we?

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Postby steveo777 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:23 am

Gunbot wrote:We're going there, are we?

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Since I cannot view images at work, shall I assume we are going on an MR field trip? Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :lol:
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Postby Don » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:30 am

steveo777 wrote:
Gunbot wrote:We're going there, are we?

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Since I cannot view images at work, shall I assume we are going on an MR field trip? Weeeeeeeeeeeeeee! :lol:


It's just a photo of former Culture Club backup singer and one hit wonder Jermaine Stewart, who checked out from AIDS induced liver cancer about 12 years ago.
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Postby Rhiannon » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:40 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jermaine's fake charity? Check. Agenda pushed for burying Mike at Neverland and turning it into a Graceland for Mike fans? Check. (epic fail, but still... check) Selling tickets to a tribute show, yet having no true lineup, while none of the lineup you announced were ever confirmed? Checkadilio.


Being the one to push Tohme Tohme on Mike, check. Fake charity... try fake charities! Lying and repeatedly changing his story about the most random of details making him seem... well, never mind that, check. Painting his hair on, check. Being a vampiric, vulture, sucking his association with his last name for all it's worth, check. Fucked his brother's wife, got her knocked up at the same time he knocked up his current wife, divorced her then went on to knock up someone else, marry his ex-sister-in-law, and name that poor kid Jermajesty out of jealousy that Mike named his sons "Prince" (which was after their Grandfather and NOT some weird ass name from left field), check. Fuuuuuuck him. And fuuuuuuck his damned "Tribute2010". Wembley in June my ass.
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Postby Rockindeano » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:45 am

bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jordan is a dick. That was such a classless arrogant speech and f him in the a for acting like that.

For a guy who is hailed as one of the greatest athletes of all time, he should have been a whole lot more tactful and respectful. He can go to behavioral class with the rest of the summer '09 misfits such as Kanye, Serena, Jermaine and Papa Joe, and Joe Wilson, all of whom need a big spoonful of STFU.


Who the frig is Papa Joe and what the Frig did he do? The Pizza dude? He rules ass!
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Postby Rick » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:48 am

Rhiannon wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jermaine's fake charity? Check. Agenda pushed for burying Mike at Neverland and turning it into a Graceland for Mike fans? Check. (epic fail, but still... check) Selling tickets to a tribute show, yet having no true lineup, while none of the lineup you announced were ever confirmed? Checkadilio.


Being the one to push Tohme Tohme on Mike, check. Fake charity... try fake charities! Lying and repeatedly changing his story about the most random of details making him seem... well, never mind that, check. Painting his hair on, check. Being a vampiric, vulture, sucking his association with his last name for all it's worth, check. Fucked his brother's wife, got her knocked up at the same time he knocked up his current wife, divorced her then went on to knock up someone else, marry his ex-sister-in-law, and name that poor kid Jermajesty out of jealousy that Mike named his sons "Prince" (which was after their Grandfather and NOT some weird ass name from left field), check. Fuuuuuuck him. And fuuuuuuck his damned "Tribute2010". Wembley in June my ass.


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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:51 am

Rockindeano wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jordan is a dick. That was such a classless arrogant speech and f him in the a for acting like that.

For a guy who is hailed as one of the greatest athletes of all time, he should have been a whole lot more tactful and respectful. He can go to behavioral class with the rest of the summer '09 misfits such as Kanye, Serena, Jermaine and Papa Joe, and Joe Wilson, all of whom need a big spoonful of STFU.


Who the frig is Papa Joe and what the Frig did he do? The Pizza dude? He rules ass!


Papa Joe Jackson, that money-grubbing, child-beating, record label-pimping two days after MJ died, california raisin-looking SOB.

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Postby Michigan Girl » Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:11 am

Rick wrote:
Rhiannon wrote:
bluejeangirl76 wrote:Jermaine's fake charity? Check. Agenda pushed for burying Mike at Neverland and turning it into a Graceland for Mike fans? Check. (epic fail, but still... check) Selling tickets to a tribute show, yet having no true lineup, while none of the lineup you announced were ever confirmed? Checkadilio.


Being the one to push Tohme Tohme on Mike, check. Fake charity... try fake charities! Lying and repeatedly changing his story about the most random of details making him seem... well, never mind that, check. Painting his hair on, check. Being a vampiric, vulture, sucking his association with his last name for all it's worth, check. Fucked his brother's wife, got her knocked up at the same time he knocked up his current wife, divorced her then went on to knock up someone else, marry his ex-sister-in-law, and name that poor kid Jermajesty out of jealousy that Mike named his sons "Prince" (which was after their Grandfather and NOT some weird ass name from left field), check. Fuuuuuuck him. And fuuuuuuck his damned "Tribute2010". Wembley in June my ass.


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Postby wednesday's child » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:31 am

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Holy fuck....LMAO!!!!!
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Postby Chubby321 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:35 am

I love Michael Jordan. Simply the best!!

I don't care what everyone thinks.
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Postby steveo777 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:54 pm

Chubby321 wrote:I love Michael Jordan. Simply the best!!

I don't care what everyone thinks.


Chubby, an a-hole can still play great basketball but at the end of the day he remains an a-hole. There are plenty of top athletes that while their game is admired, off the court they are a-holes. Many pro athletes fall into that category, though I won't start naming them all. ;)
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:00 pm

steveo777 wrote:
Chubby321 wrote:I love Michael Jordan. Simply the best!!

I don't care what everyone thinks.


Chubby, an a-hole can still play great basketball but at the end of the day he remains an a-hole. There are plenty of top athletes that while their game is admired, off the court they are a-holes. Many pro athletes fall into that category, though I won't start naming them all. ;)


I'll start with LeBron. Quite possibly the biggest a-hole in sports today.
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Postby Joe Vana » Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:16 pm

Chubby321 wrote:I love Michael Jordan. Simply the best!!

I don't care what everyone thinks.


I live in Chicago....been a Bulls fan and supporter my whole life....I have ran into Jordan on many occasions...always been nice.....but that speach made him look like a bitter, conceited, vindictive prick....

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Postby Chubby321 » Tue Sep 22, 2009 4:39 pm

A-hole, conceited, vindictive.......who cares.

I had so many wonderful and happy days/nights when the Bulls were winning championship after championship. That, I will never forget and Jordan was at the center of it all. I treasure those days. The enjoyment and the thrill....priceless.

Love him to death..... even after the speech. 8)
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