'Seven shot dead' at US army base

[larryfromnextdoor]

mmm.. mmm... so tragic.. some reports are saying that the murderer didnt have enough rounds

to do all that damage and that some might have been killed by friendly fire.. so terrible..

[Ehwmatt]

The fact that our media still isn't branding this the terrorist attack it is is yet ANOTHER indication of how spineless and pathetic we've become as a country. Oh boo hoo, we don't want to offend anybody, give me a fucking break. The radical Muslims are the ones that aren't think it's ok to strap a bomb to your chest and blow innocent people in a coffee shop or an office building up... and then they think they'll get 17 virgins in heaven . Yet, we think we can reason and talk to these types?

The peaceful Muslims aren't going to be offended if we call a spade a spade. The media and others are continuing to perpetrate the walk-on-eggshells PC garbage that led to this guy being able to pull this off in the first place, despite putting more warning signs up than you could shake an AK-47 at. We aren't ever going to learn from our mistakes it seems, and that's scarier than anything any single terrorist attack could ever do to us.

[RossValoryRocks]

The fact that our media still isn't branding this the terrorist attack it is is yet ANOTHER indication of how spineless and pathetic we've become as a country. Oh boo hoo, we don't want to offend anybody, give me a fucking break. The radical Muslims are the ones that aren't think it's ok to strap a bomb to your chest and blow innocent people in a coffee shop or an office building up... and then they think they'll get 17 virgins in heaven . Yet, we think we can reason and talk to these types?

The peaceful Muslims aren't going to be offended if we call a spade a spade. The media and others are continuing to perpetrate the walk-on-eggshells PC garbage that led to this guy being able to pull this off in the first place, despite putting more warning signs up than you could shake an AK-47 at. We aren't ever going to learn from our mistakes it seems, and that's scarier than anything any single terrorist attack could ever do to us.

Political correctness is soooooooo good for us as a country.

I checked the Constitution, I don't see anywhere it says we have the right to no be offended.

[StevePerryHair]

The guy was a mental health professional on base.

Probably a graduate of VT!!!! *tweek*

You were right. A psychiatrist went psycho.

He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. Military records show he also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg and received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in 1997.

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What can I say? I'm right so much it's scary!!!

So now we know, he was a TRAITOR, not an infiltrator

[RedWingFan]

The guy was a mental health professional on base.

Probably a graduate of VT!!!! *tweek*

You were right. A psychiatrist went psycho.

He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. Military records show he also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg and received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in 1997.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood ... ng_suspect

What can I say? I'm right so much it's scary!!!

So now we know, he was a TRAITOR, not an infiltrator

Same difference. What we know he wasn't was just a muslim who had a bad day like you insinuated!

[StevePerryHair]

The guy was a mental health professional on base.

Probably a graduate of VT!!!! *tweek*

You were right. A psychiatrist went psycho.

He served eight years as an enlisted soldier. Military records show he also served in the ROTC as an undergraduate at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg and received a bachelor's degree in biochemistry there in 1997.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_fort_hood ... ng_suspect

What can I say? I'm right so much it's scary!!!

So now we know, he was a TRAITOR, not an infiltrator

Same difference. What we know he wasn't was just a muslim who had a bad day like you insinuated!

If you go back and read my post I did not insinuate that. I actually had a couple of scenarios INCLUDING traitor. There IS a BIG difference between an infiltrator and a traitor. This guy was a Major in the army. He did not join the army with the INTENT to commit this act which would be the true definition of a "infiltrator". He joined the army, and somewhere along the way decided he wanted to fight the Muslim extremist cause rather than for the U.S army. THAT is a traitor.

[Saint John]

Time to close down all mosques in this country. Get that shitty excuse of a religion out of this country.

[StevePerryHair]

Time to close down all mosques in this country. Get that shitty excuse of a religion out of this country.

Um, they'd have to change the constitution first.

[Saint John]

Time to close down all mosques in this country. Get that shitty excuse of a religion out of this country.

Um, they'd have to change the constitution first.

No they wouldn't. It's not a religion. It's a lame excuse to spread hate, manilpulate this country's freedoms and rot the country's core.

[Ehwmatt]

If you go back and read my post I did not insinuate that. I actually had a couple of scenarios INCLUDING traitor. There IS a BIG difference between an infiltrator and a traitor. This guy was a Major in the army. He did not join the army with the INTENT to commit this act which would be the true definition of a "infiltrator". He joined the army, and somewhere along the way decided he wanted to fight the Muslim extremist cause rather than for the U.S army. THAT is a traitor.

Yes, he joined the Army as a devout radical Muslim who told people he was a "Muslim first, an American second" who tried to contact a radical imam over in Yemen 20 times, but oh, he just had a slight change of heart at some point that made him massacre 13 people

When are people going to learn that pussyfooting around the truth isn't going to help matters?

This was a terrorist. I believe he did join the army with the intent to commit this act, just as those gutless fucks got trained at OUR flight schools to crash planes into buildings.

[StevePerryHair]

If you go back and read my post I did not insinuate that. I actually had a couple of scenarios INCLUDING traitor. There IS a BIG difference between an infiltrator and a traitor. This guy was a Major in the army. He did not join the army with the INTENT to commit this act which would be the true definition of a "infiltrator". He joined the army, and somewhere along the way decided he wanted to fight the Muslim extremist cause rather than for the U.S army. THAT is a traitor.

Yes, he joined the Army as a devout radical Muslim who told people he was a "Muslim first, an American second" who tried to contact a radical imam over in Yemen 20 times, but oh, he just had a slight change of heart at some point that made him massacre 13 people

When are people going to learn that pussyfooting around the truth isn't going to help matters?

This was a terrorist. I believe he did join the army with the intent to commit this act, just as those gutless fucks got trained at OUR flight schools to crash planes into buildings.

He is a MAJOR. That means he's been in the military a long time. He wasn't some "sleeper cell" buying his time there. He joined BEFORE 9/11, and this was not a technical infiltration. Infiltration means he was PLACED there. You people just need to get your terms straight and GET what I"m saying. I am not pussyfooting. A traitor is no better. And I'm sure he waited all this time just to shoot a few people on a military base... right

[Ehwmatt]

If you go back and read my post I did not insinuate that. I actually had a couple of scenarios INCLUDING traitor. There IS a BIG difference between an infiltrator and a traitor. This guy was a Major in the army. He did not join the army with the INTENT to commit this act which would be the true definition of a "infiltrator". He joined the army, and somewhere along the way decided he wanted to fight the Muslim extremist cause rather than for the U.S army. THAT is a traitor.

Yes, he joined the Army as a devout radical Muslim who told people he was a "Muslim first, an American second" who tried to contact a radical imam over in Yemen 20 times, but oh, he just had a slight change of heart at some point that made him massacre 13 people

When are people going to learn that pussyfooting around the truth isn't going to help matters?

This was a terrorist. I believe he did join the army with the intent to commit this act, just as those gutless fucks got trained at OUR flight schools to crash planes into buildings.

He is a MAJOR. That means he's been in the military a long time. He wasn't some "sleeper cell" buying his time there. He joined BEFORE 9/11, and this was not a technical infiltration. Infiltration means he was PLACED there. You people just need to get your terms straight and GET what I"m saying. I am not pussyfooting. A traitor is no better.

He sat there and got two degrees on our dime, all the while harboring these radical Islamist feelings. He was expressing his desires as early as a year into his master's degree, and likely earlier, I just haven't heard evidence. That was WELL before he became a major. In his first presentation while doing his MPH, he did a presentation on the merits of suicide bombing in an... (wait for it).... environmental health class.

Being a traitor would require him to have a change of heart. Maybe he wasn't placed there by al-Qaeda or some towel-wearing imam when he entered the army, but don't think for a minute that this guy came into the Army wanting to serve America and had an about face that caused him to kill 13 people. Can you really be that narrow-sighted? Come on now.

You're trying to pretend like this is an argument about semantics, but it's not. He was giving off warning signs for years and no one acted on it because people want to be PC and battle over semantics. Fail.

[Ehwmatt]

And I'm sure he waited all this time just to shoot a few people on a military base... right

Yeah, and to get two degrees while he was it. They want to use our own resources against us, that's play #1 in the terrorist playbook.

And wow, look at you denigrating the massacre of 13 defenseless people to try and make your argument work. Great work, keep it up.

[StevePerryHair]

If you go back and read my post I did not insinuate that. I actually had a couple of scenarios INCLUDING traitor. There IS a BIG difference between an infiltrator and a traitor. This guy was a Major in the army. He did not join the army with the INTENT to commit this act which would be the true definition of a "infiltrator". He joined the army, and somewhere along the way decided he wanted to fight the Muslim extremist cause rather than for the U.S army. THAT is a traitor.

Yes, he joined the Army as a devout radical Muslim who told people he was a "Muslim first, an American second" who tried to contact a radical imam over in Yemen 20 times, but oh, he just had a slight change of heart at some point that made him massacre 13 people

When are people going to learn that pussyfooting around the truth isn't going to help matters?

This was a terrorist. I believe he did join the army with the intent to commit this act, just as those gutless fucks got trained at OUR flight schools to crash planes into buildings.

He is a MAJOR. That means he's been in the military a long time. He wasn't some "sleeper cell" buying his time there. He joined BEFORE 9/11, and this was not a technical infiltration. Infiltration means he was PLACED there. You people just need to get your terms straight and GET what I"m saying. I am not pussyfooting. A traitor is no better.

He sat there and got two degrees on our dime, all the while harboring these radical Islamist feelings. He was expressing his desires as early as a year into his master's degree, and likely earlier, I just haven't heard evidence. That was WELL before he became a major. In his first presentation while doing his MPH, he did a presentation on the merits of suicide bombing in an... (wait for it).... environmental health class.

Being a traitor would require him to have a change of heart. Maybe he wasn't placed there by al-Qaeda or some towel-wearing imam when he entered the army, but don't think for a minute that this guy came into the Army wanting to serve America and had an about face that caused him to kill 13 people. Can you really be that narrow-sighted? Come on now.

You're trying to pretend like this is an argument about semantics, but it's not. He was giving off warning signs for years and no one acted on it because people want to be PC and battle over semantics. Fail.

You missed what I added on at the end. Why would he wait ALL THESE YEARS to just shoot a few people? These terrorists are calculated and they want to do big things. I just don't think if this was some well planned out thing, it wouldnt' have been bigger. Like planting bombs, and involving others. Your theory makes no sense in the true sense of the word infiltration. It seems to me he was just buying into those things and slowly over time decided to act on what he was feeling.

[StevePerryHair]

And I'm sure he waited all this time just to shoot a few people on a military base... right

Yeah, and to get two degrees while he was it. They want to use our own resources against us, that's play #1 in the terrorist playbook.

And wow, look at you denigrating the massacre of 13 defenseless people to try and make your argument work. Great work, keep it up.

That's not the point. I think it's HORRIBLE that he killed 13 people and could have killed more. Don't put words or thoughts in my mouth. My point is, if someone is going to go through ALL that trouble, for ALL this time, they would have planned something much larger. Look at how long those 9/11 sleeper cells waited? For something HUGE. They could have shot up malls, theme parks, anything. But they had patience and planned and plotted something huge. He just seems like more of a traitor to me. I am allowed my opinion

[Ehwmatt]

If you go back and read my post I did not insinuate that. I actually had a couple of scenarios INCLUDING traitor. There IS a BIG difference between an infiltrator and a traitor. This guy was a Major in the army. He did not join the army with the INTENT to commit this act which would be the true definition of a "infiltrator". He joined the army, and somewhere along the way decided he wanted to fight the Muslim extremist cause rather than for the U.S army. THAT is a traitor.

Yes, he joined the Army as a devout radical Muslim who told people he was a "Muslim first, an American second" who tried to contact a radical imam over in Yemen 20 times, but oh, he just had a slight change of heart at some point that made him massacre 13 people

When are people going to learn that pussyfooting around the truth isn't going to help matters?

This was a terrorist. I believe he did join the army with the intent to commit this act, just as those gutless fucks got trained at OUR flight schools to crash planes into buildings.

He is a MAJOR. That means he's been in the military a long time. He wasn't some "sleeper cell" buying his time there. He joined BEFORE 9/11, and this was not a technical infiltration. Infiltration means he was PLACED there. You people just need to get your terms straight and GET what I"m saying. I am not pussyfooting. A traitor is no better.

He sat there and got two degrees on our dime, all the while harboring these radical Islamist feelings. He was expressing his desires as early as a year into his master's degree, and likely earlier, I just haven't heard evidence. That was WELL before he became a major. In his first presentation while doing his MPH, he did a presentation on the merits of suicide bombing in an... (wait for it).... environmental health class.

Being a traitor would require him to have a change of heart. Maybe he wasn't placed there by al-Qaeda or some towel-wearing imam when he entered the army, but don't think for a minute that this guy came into the Army wanting to serve America and had an about face that caused him to kill 13 people. Can you really be that narrow-sighted? Come on now.

You're trying to pretend like this is an argument about semantics, but it's not. He was giving off warning signs for years and no one acted on it because people want to be PC and battle over semantics. Fail.

You missed what I added on at the end. Why would he wait ALL THESE YEARS to just shoot a few people? These terrorists are calculated and they want to do big things. I just don't think if this was some well planned out thing, it wouldnt' have been bigger. Like planting bombs, and involving others. Your theory makes no sense in the true sense of the word infiltration. It seems to me he was just buying into those things and slowly over time decided to act on what he was feeling.

Because he got two degrees for free out of it. Terrorist cells don't want Abdul and Aziz from the opium fields in Afghanistan. They want highly educated, well-trained men. Why not get that training in the U.S.?

Again, you're trying to play semantics and it's as transparent as a piece of cellophane. The guy was probably planning to go over to Yemen and join the cause with the imam he tried to contact 20 times within the last year, but his radicalism made him snap and pull this off.

You're trying to make terrorism into a rational thing. Terrorism and totalitarianism are movements steeped in irrationality. That is why you can't reason with them or use diplomacy... because it's totally irrational.

EDIT: We are talking about idiots who think strapping a bomb to your chest and blowing up women and children is the key to heaven and 17 virgins. They aren't necessarily making calculations. They just want to instill fear

[StevePerryHair]

If you go back and read my post I did not insinuate that. I actually had a couple of scenarios INCLUDING traitor. There IS a BIG difference between an infiltrator and a traitor. This guy was a Major in the army. He did not join the army with the INTENT to commit this act which would be the true definition of a "infiltrator". He joined the army, and somewhere along the way decided he wanted to fight the Muslim extremist cause rather than for the U.S army. THAT is a traitor.

Yes, he joined the Army as a devout radical Muslim who told people he was a "Muslim first, an American second" who tried to contact a radical imam over in Yemen 20 times, but oh, he just had a slight change of heart at some point that made him massacre 13 people

When are people going to learn that pussyfooting around the truth isn't going to help matters?

This was a terrorist. I believe he did join the army with the intent to commit this act, just as those gutless fucks got trained at OUR flight schools to crash planes into buildings.

He is a MAJOR. That means he's been in the military a long time. He wasn't some "sleeper cell" buying his time there. He joined BEFORE 9/11, and this was not a technical infiltration. Infiltration means he was PLACED there. You people just need to get your terms straight and GET what I"m saying. I am not pussyfooting. A traitor is no better.

He sat there and got two degrees on our dime, all the while harboring these radical Islamist feelings. He was expressing his desires as early as a year into his master's degree, and likely earlier, I just haven't heard evidence. That was WELL before he became a major. In his first presentation while doing his MPH, he did a presentation on the merits of suicide bombing in an... (wait for it).... environmental health class.

Being a traitor would require him to have a change of heart. Maybe he wasn't placed there by al-Qaeda or some towel-wearing imam when he entered the army, but don't think for a minute that this guy came into the Army wanting to serve America and had an about face that caused him to kill 13 people. Can you really be that narrow-sighted? Come on now.

You're trying to pretend like this is an argument about semantics, but it's not. He was giving off warning signs for years and no one acted on it because people want to be PC and battle over semantics. Fail.

You missed what I added on at the end. Why would he wait ALL THESE YEARS to just shoot a few people? These terrorists are calculated and they want to do big things. I just don't think if this was some well planned out thing, it wouldnt' have been bigger. Like planting bombs, and involving others. Your theory makes no sense in the true sense of the word infiltration. It seems to me he was just buying into those things and slowly over time decided to act on what he was feeling.

Because he got two degrees for free out of it. Terrorist cells don't want Abdul and Aziz from the opium fields in Afghanistan. They want highly educated, well-trained men. Why not get that training in the U.S.?

Again, you're trying to play semantics and it's as transparent as a piece of cellophane. The guy was probably planning to go over to Yemen and join the cause with the imam he tried to contact 20 times within the last year, but his radicalism made him snap and pull this off.

You're trying to make terrorism into a rational thing. Terrorism and totalitarianism are movements steeped in irrationality. That is why you can't reason with them or use diplomacy... because it's totally irrational.

Matthew, you are giving me a HEADACHE!! I NEVER said he WASN'T a terrorist!!! I simply said he wasn't an infiltrator. Yes, semantics, so why not leave it at that and stop telling me what I think and feel about this. This whole act disgusts and scares me. He IS a terrorist no matter which way you look at it.

[Ehwmatt]

Matthew, you are giving me a HEADACHE!! I NEVER said he WASN'T a terrorist!!! I simply said he wasn't an infiltrator. Yes, semantics, so why not leave it at that and stop telling me what I think and feel about this. This whole act disgusts and scrares me. He IS a terrorist no matter which way you look at it.

Fair enough, fair enough. I'm just trying to make a point here that I don't want to get lost on anybody:

We HAVE to stop playing PC games and walking on eggshells when it comes to these kinds of issues. The guy was in contact with a radical, violent imam; he talked about terrorism 80% of his time according to classmates at MPH program he was in; and he regularly declared his loyalty to Islam and the illegitimacy of the principle conflict the military he was in was involved in. Yet, no one acted because they were scared of offending. That has to stop. That's why it has to be called for what it is, terrorism. The media doesn't have the balls to say so, neither do the authorities yet.

[StevePerryHair]

Matthew, you are giving me a HEADACHE!! I NEVER said he WASN'T a terrorist!!! I simply said he wasn't an infiltrator. Yes, semantics, so why not leave it at that and stop telling me what I think and feel about this. This whole act disgusts and scrares me. He IS a terrorist no matter which way you look at it.

Fair enough, fair enough. I'm just trying to make a point here that I don't want to get lost on anybody:

We HAVE to stop playing PC games and walking on eggshells when it comes to these kinds of issues. The guy was in contact with a radical, violent imam; he talked about terrorism 80% of his time according to classmates at MPH program he was in; and he regularly declared his loyalty to Islam and the illegitimacy of the principle conflict the military he was in was involved in. Yet, no one acted because they were scared of offending. That has to stop. That's why it has to be called for what it is, terrorism. The media doesn't have the balls to say so, neither do the authorities yet.

Well I'm not afraid of offending and I don't get why they are either. maybe for ONCE the media wants to get their facts first adn that would be a first But I feel that the military failed if they couldn't have realized these things in a background check. I mean military men get BIG background checks and if these things happened prior to him joining, that is really horrible they didn't catch it .But then that was pre- 9/11 so maybe they weren't looking for those specific things then. I also think it's extreme though to do as some have suggested and not having any Muslims in the military. I think it's unfair to lump a whole HUGE group of people as terrorists just due to their religion. It might be time to do some more extensive background checks now though? I don't know. I'm not a military expert, so I have no idea how they handle everything. And it IS terrorism. This definitely fits the meaning of the word terrorism.

[Ehwmatt]

Matthew, you are giving me a HEADACHE!! I NEVER said he WASN'T a terrorist!!! I simply said he wasn't an infiltrator. Yes, semantics, so why not leave it at that and stop telling me what I think and feel about this. This whole act disgusts and scrares me. He IS a terrorist no matter which way you look at it.

Fair enough, fair enough. I'm just trying to make a point here that I don't want to get lost on anybody:

We HAVE to stop playing PC games and walking on eggshells when it comes to these kinds of issues. The guy was in contact with a radical, violent imam; he talked about terrorism 80% of his time according to classmates at MPH program he was in; and he regularly declared his loyalty to Islam and the illegitimacy of the principle conflict the military he was in was involved in. Yet, no one acted because they were scared of offending. That has to stop. That's why it has to be called for what it is, terrorism. The media doesn't have the balls to say so, neither do the authorities yet.

Well I'm not afraid of offending and I don't get why they are either. maybe for ONCE the media wants to get their facts first adn that would be a first But I feel that the military failed if they couldn't have realized these things in a background check. I mean military men get BIG background checks and if these things happened prior to him joining, that is really horrible they didn't catch it .But then that was pre- 9/11 so maybe they weren't looking for those specific things then. I also think it's extreme though to do as some have suggested and not having any Muslims in the military. I think it's unfair to lump a whole HUGE group of people as terrorists just due to their religion. It might be time to do some more extensive background checks now though? I don't know. I'm not a military expert, so I have no idea how they handle everything. And it IS terrorism. This definitely fits the meaning of the word terrorism.

I never suggested no Muslims in the military and Dan was clearly being facetious. What I AM suggesting is just a little common sense, though

When a Muslim in the armed forces spends 80% of his time talking about how the war on terror is a "war on Islam," gives graduate school presentations on the merits of suicide bombing, has a chain of attempts to contact a known radical imam in Yemen (once based in the U.S.), and all that crap, just maybe someone should look into that. Common sense should rule the day, not PC-ness

[Sarah]

Yet, no one acted because they were scared of offending. That has to stop. That's why it has to be called for what it is, terrorism. The media doesn't have the balls to say so, neither do the authorities yet.

There are a lot of Muslim voters and politicians don't want to get anyone mad at them

Also, my roommate is Muslim (she wears a scarf and all) and she's pretty cool. They're not all bad.

[Saint John]

I never suggested no Muslims in the military and Dan was clearly being facetious.

Oh no he wasn't. Boot each and every one of those motherfuckers out immediately. Close down all mosques and require every soldier to piss and shit on the koran. If they can they're in and if they can't they're out. Time to do some fucking house cleaning. And this fuckhead was an infiltrator and a terrorist. His infiltration was proven by spewing pro-muslin and anti-american sentiment for many years. I truly believe that they have probably infiltrated far greater and more dangerous positions than this Allah-loving dicktard. I hope they torture him every day till he's 80 and then burn him on top of 10,000 korans.

[larryfromnextdoor]

DC Sniper Muhammad, exucuted today..



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Victim's Brother Says 'Surreal Watching Life Sapped Out' of DC Sniper
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(Nov. 10) -- John Allen Muhammad's life came to a close Tuesday night as the convicted D.C. sniper was put to death by lethal injection at a prison in southern Virginia. According to prison spokesman Larry Traylor, officials declared Muhammad dead at precisely 9:11 p.m. at the Greensville Correctional Center.

The time of death echoed the first anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, when Muhammad and his young accomplice Lee Boyd Malvo wreaked such deadly havoc in the Washington, D.C., area.

According to Traylor, the prisoner was "very unemotional" as he was led into the execution chamber. "He seemed quiet and relaxed," said the official. "After he was placed on the gurney and strapped down, he was motionless."

And although Muhammad was given the chance to make a final statement, he declined. "He did not say anything," reported Traylor. "I did not hear him utter a word."

For some of the families of his many victims, the execution brought little sense of closure. Steven Moore, whose sister Linda Franklin was slain by Muhammad in Washington, greeted the news on CNN with no visible joy. "It's another life gone," he said, "this one deservedly so.... I don't feel any closure. The justice system has executed another prisoner who needs to be executed."

Others found a least a measure of solace in observing Muhammad's end. Cheryll Witz was among those who traveled to Viriginia to witness the procedure. Her father, Jerry Taylor, was killed on an Arizona golf course in March 2002 by Malvo.

"[Muhammad] basically watched my dad breathe his last breath," Witz told The Associated Press. "Why shouldn't I watch his last breath?"

Earlier in the day, as Bob Meyers made the long drive to the prison, he recalled the day seven years ago when he urged his brother to leave the Washington area. It was too dangerous to stay there, he argued, while the mysterious D.C. sniper remained on the loose.

"His comment was, 'There are millions of people down here. It's pretty unlikely I would be involved,'" Meyers said. But he finally relented, agreeing to return to the family home in rural Perkiomenville, Pa., for the weekend. He was set to leave early Friday morning.

"Unfortunately," Meyers said, "he didn't make it past Tuesday evening."

Dean Meyers, 53, was pumping gas in Manassas, Va., on Oct. 9, 2002, when he became the seventh of 10 people killed by Muhammad or Malvo in the Washington region.

In all, the sniping team would shoot 22 people, murdering 15 of them, in a deadly coast-to-coast spree that stretched from the Northwest to the deep South. But it was their three-week finale in Maryland, Virginia and Washington, D.C., that jangled the capital region and the nation as it nervously marked the one-year anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. And it was Meyers' murder that led to Muhammad's conviction and his trip to Virginia's death chamber.

Meyers and his wife, Lori, were also among victims' family members who watched Muhammad die.

"Honestly, it was surreal watching the life being sapped out of somebody intentionally," said Meyers, 56, who works in a buildling material supply company. "I watched my mother die of natural causes, but that was very different.... It was a point of closure, I would say. But that pretty much was overcome by the sadness that the whole situation generates in my heart -- that [Muhammad] would get to the place where he did what he did, and it had come to this."

Also watching were Isa Nichols and her daughter Tamara. Eight months before the snipers struck fear into the nation's capital, the pair killed Keenya Cook at Nichols' home in Tacoma, Wash.

The murder remained a cold case until Nichols saw Muhammad's photo on TV as a suspect in the D.C. sniper shooting spree. That's when she realized Muhammad, who had repaired her car and whose children her daughter had baby-sat, had sent Malvo to target her for helping Mohammad's wife, Mildred, escape their abusive marriage. Cook, 21, answered the door instead on Feb. 16, 2002, and was shot point-blank. The teen, then 16, "later confessed it was his initiation shooting" under Muhammad's tutelage, Nichols said.

"For me, it's a process of justice being carried out," said Nichols, who has written a book, "Genesis: The Bullet Was Meant For Me: D.C. Sniper Story Untold." She said she is at peace with Malvo's sentence of life without parole because "he had the mind of a child who happened to be with a man who became diabolical."

Nichols flew across the country to witness Muhammad's execution because of Tamara, who discovered her cousin's body and is now 21. "She said, 'Mommy, I want to be there," Nichols said as she drove south on Interstate 95 toward the prison. "She said, 'I need closure.'"

[Ehwmatt]

DC Sniper Muhammad, exucuted today..

Excellent, I hope Diaperhead Hasan is next. Then I hope this serial murderer/rapist from Cleveland (Anthony Sowell) that killed 11 women and let their bodies decay in his house is third in line.

[Saint John]

Muhammad is another Muslim fuck that they refused to call a terrorist...even though he wanted to recruit homesless kids to Canada to train to be terrorists!!! The fucking media has blood on its hands regarding Fort Hood. More specifically, the ACLU and the people that bow down to "The League For Muslim Equality" and other variations of terrorist coddlers. I'll say it right now...FUCK MUSLIMS! And if there are a few good ones...fuck them too! And shame on them for being a apart of a religion that has been grounded in fanaticism for hundreds, if not thousands, of years! Religion, in general, makes me sick. There's a no fucking good agenda behind virtually all of them.