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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:20 am

Ehwmatt wrote:Yeah, I'm always extra polite to service workers. It's a hard job. I start my tip at 20% and it takes a lot to even bring me down to 15%, and I always say "please," "thank you" and frame requests for refills with a "when you get a minute..."

Even outside the service worker context, there's just no reason for taking out your own problems on a stranger, whether it be a waiter or some random guy on the street that says hello to you. I'm always cordial even when I'm not having the best day.


Good post. I agree with all your points. Sometimes, even when a waiter or waitress forgets the silver-wear or ketchup or whatever the case may be, I actually feel bad into not even saying it because I don't want to come off as an asshole to even confront the situation. I never want to come off as a prick so I mainly act as polite as possible in those situations.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:24 am

artist4perry wrote:I hate when the teachers and I leave to go from a restaurant, and I leave a 5$ tip, and they leave 50cents, a dollar, and I know they had an expensive meal, embarrasses me to no end! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:


I remember me and my buddies went to a new Mexican place that just opened about 30 minutes from us. We decided to make the trip down to check it out. Is it just me, or are Mexicans the most easy going and nicest people around? Incredibly nice. Anyway, I mis-judged the money I had in my pocket and only had some chump change for a tip when of course, all of my buddies look to me to grab a tip. We walked out of there with putting down 70 cents. The bill wasn't much, but it bothered me so bad that I decided to drive back down there and hand them an extra 5 bucks for their service . I hate that stuff, I feel terrible and horrible if it ever happens. Now, I come prepared hah.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:31 pm

YoungJRNY wrote:Good post. I agree with all your points. Sometimes, even when a waiter or waitress forgets the silver-wear or ketchup or whatever the case may be, I actually feel bad into not even saying it because I don't want to come off as an asshole to even confront the situation. I never want to come off as a prick so I mainly act as polite as possible in those situations.


I'm so easy going, sometimes they can bring me the wrong thing and if it's good enough, I'll eat it anyway. That's a rare, rare thing but it's kinda fun when it happens.

artist4perry wrote:I hate when the teachers and I leave to go from a restaurant, and I leave a 5$ tip, and they leave 50cents, a dollar, and I know they had an expensive meal, embarrasses me to no end! :oops: :oops: :oops: :oops:


And if you don't stick it under your own plate to separate it, their cheapness waters down the effect of your tip and sucks you into their cheapitude.

YoungJRNY wrote:I remember me and my buddies went to a new Mexican place that just opened about 30 minutes from us. We decided to make the trip down to check it out. Is it just me, or are Mexicans the most easy going and nicest people around? Incredibly nice. Anyway, I mis-judged the money I had in my pocket and only had some chump change for a tip when of course, all of my buddies look to me to grab a tip. We walked out of there with putting down 70 cents. The bill wasn't much, but it bothered me so bad that I decided to drive back down there and hand them an extra 5 bucks for their service . I hate that stuff, I feel terrible and horrible if it ever happens. Now, I come prepared hah.


They are great waiters -- some of the best. Too bad that $5 is leaving the American ecomony and heading south.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:55 pm

I'm so easy going, sometimes they can bring me the wrong thing and if it's good enough, I'll eat it anyway. That's a rare, rare thing but it's kinda fun when it happens.


Same here RIP. I'm viciously easy going in nature as well. One time me and my GF were out to eat at Eat N Park and I ordered the breakfast slam. I saw our waitress was rushing around and could tell she was very frustrated and had a lot on her plate but pulled it off and still put on a nice happy face. I got sunny side up (dippy eggs I call em haha) and sure enough she brought my plate out with no toast and like, 2 strips of bacon and tiny bit of sausage. Knowing it wasn't her fault but the cooks, I just let it go, ate my eggs with the bacon then ate the rest with a fork, even though toast is the X factor. Sometimes, I just don't wanna deal with it out of sheer easy going nature.
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Postby Rip Rokken » Thu Sep 09, 2010 11:51 pm

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I'm so easy going, sometimes they can bring me the wrong thing and if it's good enough, I'll eat it anyway. That's a rare, rare thing but it's kinda fun when it happens.


Same here RIP. I'm viciously easy going in nature as well. One time me and my GF were out to eat at Eat N Park and I ordered the breakfast slam. I saw our waitress was rushing around and could tell she was very frustrated and had a lot on her plate but pulled it off and still put on a nice happy face. I got sunny side up (dippy eggs I call em haha) and sure enough she brought my plate out with no toast and like, 2 strips of bacon and tiny bit of sausage. Knowing it wasn't her fault but the cooks, I just let it go, ate my eggs with the bacon then ate the rest with a fork, even though toast is the X factor. Sometimes, I just don't wanna deal with it out of sheer easy going nature.


That's interesting, because most people I know draw the line at receiving the wrong order (even if they are nice about it). I will sometimes mention something gently if I wanted it bad enough (like maybe a particular side item), and they never mind. Usually they let you keep what you have and bring you the right thing.

So funny about your breakfast story - I was in a Denny's with a co-worker one day who ordered a "Slam" breakfast, and he was brutal to the waitress for his eggs not being exactly right. I think he was asking for sunny-side-up but thought they weren't supposed to be runny at all for some reason. He poked them and asked her very condescendingly if that's what she thought they looked like, and then argued with her about the definition of sunny-side-up. Finally he asked for the manager and complained about the waitress in front of her and everyone else. I was mortified and left her a very nice tip that day.

I've never heard of Eat N Park before. I'd think you'd want to park first, then eat! Someday someone will probably sue them when they have an accident, and some attorney will actually take the case.

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Postby conversationpc » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:49 am

I've heard it said that people who aren't polite to waiters, waitresses, etc., aren't nice people to begin with. I think people show their real colors in situations like that.
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 4:12 am

conversationpc wrote:I've heard it said that people who aren't polite to waiters, waitresses, etc., aren't nice people to begin with. I think people show their real colors in situations like that.


I agree. My approach - and this is with everyone I meet, not specific to waitstaff - has always been that I'm fine and cool with everyone untill/unless they give me reason not to be. And I don't mean they annoy me in some way, or whatever, I mean until they specifcally do or say something to me that gives me a reason to have a problem. Because really, if you're going to be rude to someone, especially a stranger, for no good reason, people will see that about you.

With waitstaff, it's the same thing... I'm fine until I get a reason. And with that, it has to be a pretty big reason if I'm not going to tip, or say something to them abotu whatever the issue is. I mean, if they're really slow, I'll take into account if the place is busy or if they appear to be shortstaffed or whatever. Or if they bring the worng thing... maybe I wasn't clear enough when I asked for whatever it is? (that happened once... I screwed up my own order by wording just one thing wrong and ended up with a 2lb fresh lobster!) So it has to be a pretty GLARING fuck-up that I know can't be blamed on something else for me to actually get mad at them. :lol:
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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:08 am

Rip Rokken wrote:I'm so easy going, sometimes they can bring me the wrong thing and if it's good enough, I'll eat it anyway. That's a rare, rare thing but it's kinda fun when it happens.


I've done that SO many times too, and the only time I've ever sent something back was when there was shellfish in it because I can't eat that.

It is embarassing to be with other people who are just rude. Have a co-worker who a bunch of us just stopped going to lunch with because of that. Her thing though is she does her rudeness with just enough of a smile that she thinks it doesn't come across that way, but sorry, smiles don't cover up bitchiness :lol: But we've also realized she's a bit of a passive-aggressive fruitcake in pretty much all areas of life so it's a lost cause, lol.

Again I don't know how waiters and waitresses do it, I couldn't.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Sep 10, 2010 5:16 am

Rip Rokken wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
I'm so easy going, sometimes they can bring me the wrong thing and if it's good enough, I'll eat it anyway. That's a rare, rare thing but it's kinda fun when it happens.


Same here RIP. I'm viciously easy going in nature as well. One time me and my GF were out to eat at Eat N Park and I ordered the breakfast slam. I saw our waitress was rushing around and could tell she was very frustrated and had a lot on her plate but pulled it off and still put on a nice happy face. I got sunny side up (dippy eggs I call em haha) and sure enough she brought my plate out with no toast and like, 2 strips of bacon and tiny bit of sausage. Knowing it wasn't her fault but the cooks, I just let it go, ate my eggs with the bacon then ate the rest with a fork, even though toast is the X factor. Sometimes, I just don't wanna deal with it out of sheer easy going nature.


That's interesting, because most people I know draw the line at receiving the wrong order (even if they are nice about it). I will sometimes mention something gently if I wanted it bad enough (like maybe a particular side item), and they never mind. Usually they let you keep what you have and bring you the right thing.

So funny about your breakfast story - I was in a Denny's with a co-worker one day who ordered a "Slam" breakfast, and he was brutal to the waitress for his eggs not being exactly right. I think he was asking for sunny-side-up but thought they weren't supposed to be runny at all for some reason. He poked them and asked her very condescendingly if that's what she thought they looked like, and then argued with her about the definition of sunny-side-up. Finally he asked for the manager and complained about the waitress in front of her and everyone else. I was mortified and left her a very nice tip that day.

I've never heard of Eat N Park before. I'd think you'd want to park first, then eat! Someday someone will probably sue them when they have an accident, and some attorney will actually take the case.

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That's hilarious out of sheer ignorance and just morbidly disrespectful. It couldn't of been that bad to cause that kind of scene over 6$ eggs. People never cease to amaze me.

Now that we're on topic, your buddy IS right of what sunny side up eggs are. (I actually got the term wrong as well.. see how easy it is to mess up an order? Just like Kim said, haha.) Anyway, sunny side up eggs are the eggs turned inside out which the oak is cooked to be in a hard-boiled like state, popping out from its top.

The "dippy" eggs are over-easy eggs, so I got that term wrong. :lol: 8) 8)
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Postby Saint John » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:30 am

YoungJRNY wrote:Now that we're on topic, your buddy IS right of what sunny side up eggs are. (I actually got the term wrong as well.. see how easy it is to mess up an order? Just like Kim said, haha.) Anyway, sunny side up eggs are the eggs turned inside out which the oak is cooked to be in a hard-boiled like state, popping out from its top.

The "dippy" eggs are over-easy eggs, so I got that term wrong. :lol: 8) 8)


"Sunny side up" eggs have a runny yolk, Trav.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Sep 10, 2010 6:59 am

Saint John wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:Now that we're on topic, your buddy IS right of what sunny side up eggs are. (I actually got the term wrong as well.. see how easy it is to mess up an order? Just like Kim said, haha.) Anyway, sunny side up eggs are the eggs turned inside out which the oak is cooked to be in a hard-boiled like state, popping out from its top.

The "dippy" eggs are over-easy eggs, so I got that term wrong. :lol: 8) 8)


"Sunny side up" eggs have a runny yolk, Trav.


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Over Easy are the ones that you can dab with toast and all hell breaks loose with runnyness. Either that, or I'm doing my best impersonation of being a fucking retard. :x
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Postby Saint John » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:00 am

A style known simply as 'fried' — eggs are fried on both sides with the yolks broken until set or hard.

'Over well', also called 'over hard' or 'hard' — cooked on both sides until the yolk has solidified.

'Over medium' — cooked on both sides; the yolk is of medium consistency and the egg white is thoroughly cooked.

'Over easy', also called 'over light or runny' — cooked on both sides; the yolk is a thin liquid, while the egg white is fully cooked. "Over easy" fried eggs are also commonly referred to as dippy eggs or dip eggs by Marylanders and by Pennsylvania Dutch persons living in southern Pennsylvania, mainly due to the practice of dipping toast into the yolk while eating.

'Sunny side up' — cooked only on one side; yolk is liquid; the egg white is often still a bit runny as well. This is often known simply as 'eggs up'. Gently splashing the hot cooking oil or fat on the sunny side uncooked white, i.e., basting, may be done to thoroughly cook the white. Covering the frying pan with a lid during cooking (optionally adding a cover and half-teaspoon of water just before finishing) allows for a less "runny" egg, and is an alternate method to flipping for cooking an egg over easy (this is occasionally called 'sunny side down').
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Postby YoungJRNY » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:08 am

I'm glad we got to the bottom of Egg Wars. What a legendary MR off subject thread. 8)
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Postby Everett » Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:08 am

I guess i'm the only one that likes my eggs scrambled. Anything else is freakin disgusting
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Postby Rip Rokken » Fri Sep 10, 2010 1:27 pm

Melissa wrote:It is embarassing to be with other people who are just rude. Have a co-worker who a bunch of us just stopped going to lunch with because of that. Her thing though is she does her rudeness with just enough of a smile that she thinks it doesn't come across that way, but sorry, smiles don't cover up bitchiness :lol: But we've also realized she's a bit of a passive-aggressive fruitcake in pretty much all areas of life so it's a lost cause, lol.

Again I don't know how waiters and waitresses do it, I couldn't.


LOL, you have a co-worker like that? Oh, the horror -- I can't stand those types, and it sounds like you pegged her. Does she have any clue why people won't go out with her anymore?
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Postby stevew2 » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:13 pm

My ex would be rude cause a hot waitress would wait on us and she would throw a fit cause I got more food than she did,It ruined the meal.If she did a good job ,id tip her good,than hear shit about it later
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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:42 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:
Melissa wrote:It is embarassing to be with other people who are just rude. Have a co-worker who a bunch of us just stopped going to lunch with because of that. Her thing though is she does her rudeness with just enough of a smile that she thinks it doesn't come across that way, but sorry, smiles don't cover up bitchiness :lol: But we've also realized she's a bit of a passive-aggressive fruitcake in pretty much all areas of life so it's a lost cause, lol.

Again I don't know how waiters and waitresses do it, I couldn't.


LOL, you have a co-worker like that? Oh, the horror -- I can't stand those types, and it sounds like you pegged her. Does she have any clue why people won't go out with her anymore?


Yeah I think over the years she's figured it out :lol: She's a actually a little better now, but it still shines through the cracks :lol:
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Postby Melissa » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:44 pm

Saint John wrote:A style known simply as 'fried' — eggs are fried on both sides with the yolks broken until set or hard.

'Over well', also called 'over hard' or 'hard' — cooked on both sides until the yolk has solidified.

'Over medium' — cooked on both sides; the yolk is of medium consistency and the egg white is thoroughly cooked.

'Over easy', also called 'over light or runny' — cooked on both sides; the yolk is a thin liquid, while the egg white is fully cooked. "Over easy" fried eggs are also commonly referred to as dippy eggs or dip eggs by Marylanders and by Pennsylvania Dutch persons living in southern Pennsylvania, mainly due to the practice of dipping toast into the yolk while eating.

'Sunny side up' — cooked only on one side; yolk is liquid; the egg white is often still a bit runny as well. This is often known simply as 'eggs up'. Gently splashing the hot cooking oil or fat on the sunny side uncooked white, i.e., basting, may be done to thoroughly cook the white. Covering the frying pan with a lid during cooking (optionally adding a cover and half-teaspoon of water just before finishing) allows for a less "runny" egg, and is an alternate method to flipping for cooking an egg over easy (this is occasionally called 'sunny side down').


I like over medium! They can still be "dippy" that way too! :lol:
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Postby Rip Rokken » Fri Sep 10, 2010 10:49 pm

Melissa wrote:
Rip Rokken wrote:
Melissa wrote:It is embarassing to be with other people who are just rude. Have a co-worker who a bunch of us just stopped going to lunch with because of that. Her thing though is she does her rudeness with just enough of a smile that she thinks it doesn't come across that way, but sorry, smiles don't cover up bitchiness :lol: But we've also realized she's a bit of a passive-aggressive fruitcake in pretty much all areas of life so it's a lost cause, lol.

Again I don't know how waiters and waitresses do it, I couldn't.


LOL, you have a co-worker like that? Oh, the horror -- I can't stand those types, and it sounds like you pegged her. Does she have any clue why people won't go out with her anymore?


Yeah I think over the years she's figured it out :lol: She's a actually a little better now, but it still shines through the cracks :lol:


There is little hope for a cure, unfortunately. A brain scan might reveal the physiological defects that cause her to behave like that. :) Best option is exactly what you're doing -- social containment, just like we contain violent criminals to protect society.

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Postby Rip Rokken » Fri Sep 10, 2010 11:14 pm

stevew2 wrote:My ex would be rude cause a hot waitress would wait on us and she would throw a fit cause I got more food than she did,It ruined the meal.If she did a good job ,id tip her good,than hear shit about it later


If she wanted to eat as much as you and griped about not getting it, I'd be worried.
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Postby Deb » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:29 am

Melissa wrote:
Saint John wrote:A style known simply as 'fried' — eggs are fried on both sides with the yolks broken until set or hard.

'Over well', also called 'over hard' or 'hard' — cooked on both sides until the yolk has solidified.

'Over medium' — cooked on both sides; the yolk is of medium consistency and the egg white is thoroughly cooked.

'Over easy', also called 'over light or runny' — cooked on both sides; the yolk is a thin liquid, while the egg white is fully cooked. "Over easy" fried eggs are also commonly referred to as dippy eggs or dip eggs by Marylanders and by Pennsylvania Dutch persons living in southern Pennsylvania, mainly due to the practice of dipping toast into the yolk while eating.

'Sunny side up' — cooked only on one side; yolk is liquid; the egg white is often still a bit runny as well. This is often known simply as 'eggs up'. Gently splashing the hot cooking oil or fat on the sunny side uncooked white, i.e., basting, may be done to thoroughly cook the white. Covering the frying pan with a lid during cooking (optionally adding a cover and half-teaspoon of water just before finishing) allows for a less "runny" egg, and is an alternate method to flipping for cooking an egg over easy (this is occasionally called 'sunny side down').


I like over medium! They can still be "dippy" that way too! :lol:


Over easy for me. Nothing worse than a dry egg. Or burnt bacon for that matter. :lol:
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Postby conversationpc » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:49 am

I vote over easy...Especially with a good steak for breakfast.
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Postby artist4perry » Sat Sep 11, 2010 10:55 am

Saint John wrote:A style known simply as 'fried' — eggs are fried on both sides with the yolks broken until set or hard.

'Over well', also called 'over hard' or 'hard' — cooked on both sides until the yolk has solidified.

'Over medium' — cooked on both sides; the yolk is of medium consistency and the egg white is thoroughly cooked.

'Over easy', also called 'over light or runny' — cooked on both sides; the yolk is a thin liquid, while the egg white is fully cooked. "Over easy" fried eggs are also commonly referred to as dippy eggs or dip eggs by Marylanders and by Pennsylvania Dutch persons living in southern Pennsylvania, mainly due to the practice of dipping toast into the yolk while eating.

'Sunny side up' — cooked only on one side; yolk is liquid; the egg white is often still a bit runny as well. This is often known simply as 'eggs up'. Gently splashing the hot cooking oil or fat on the sunny side uncooked white, i.e., basting, may be done to thoroughly cook the white. Covering the frying pan with a lid during cooking (optionally adding a cover and half-teaspoon of water just before finishing) allows for a less "runny" egg, and is an alternate method to flipping for cooking an egg over easy (this is occasionally called 'sunny side down').


Ahhhhhhhhh....................sunny side up! With toast........................darn it I am hungry for eggs and I have to watch my cholesterol. This sucks eggs! LOL! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Triple S » Sat Sep 11, 2010 11:28 am

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YoungJRNY wrote:Now that we're on topic, your buddy IS right of what sunny side up eggs are. (I actually got the term wrong as well.. see how easy it is to mess up an order? Just like Kim said, haha.) Anyway, sunny side up eggs are the eggs turned inside out which the oak is cooked to be in a hard-boiled like state, popping out from its top.

The "dippy" eggs are over-easy eggs, so I got that term wrong. :lol: 8) 8)


"Sunny side up" eggs have a runny yolk, Trav.


. . . or a runny oak :wink: (sorry, couldn't resist)

Can't stand runny eggs - in fact I don't much care for fried eggs period (too greasy) - unless they're scrambled. Poached eggs with a medium-cooked yolk are my favorite - but I can seldom get them exactly the way I want when I cook them. And those stupid egg-poacher contraptions are way too hard to clean :evil:
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Postby stevew2 » Sat Sep 11, 2010 12:55 pm

Rip Rokken wrote:
stevew2 wrote:My ex would be rude cause a hot waitress would wait on us and she would throw a fit cause I got more food than she did,It ruined the meal.If she did a good job ,id tip her good,than hear shit about it later


If she wanted to eat as much as you and griped about not getting it, I'd be worried.
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