Ann Wilson on Autotune

[slucero]

Those 2 racks full of ProTools HD boxes is enough to make me faint... and he's using Black Lion Audio converters now...

[Rick]

From Heart's Facebook feed ... looking good!

Holy smokes! She's lost a bunch. She had some kind of weight loss surgery in 2002 that failed. Looks like whatever she's doing this time is working.

[verslibre]

I've been a fan of Mutt since I was a teen... even have a framed letter from him on my wall.. as a young musician getting into engineering I wrote him, and asked how they got those huge drum sounds on Pyromania, he wrote me back from Battery Studios in London...

"Top o' the morn to ye, lad! Yew liked those 'big' drum sounds, eh? Well, thanks from yours truly, o' course those sounds are all boxed. Yew know: canned! Rick Allen, bless the lad's heart, he's got the internal metronome of a hound with its tail stuck in an electrical socket! He picked up his sticks and I said, 'What the hell are yew doing? Who do ye think ye are, Brian Downey? — Bugger off!' Lucky for the boys, there's this brilliant invention called the drum machine. I let Rick bash a few cymbals on the alb'm, but he's not even onnit, hardly! Easiest job in the band! Buttons, buttons, slider! Up the vol! Really, the saps are lucky I didn't put 'Mutt Lange Band' on the cov'r!"




http://www.jimsteinman.com/kerrang.htm

"It was a weird time," says Steinman. "Mutt Lange is totally insane. He has nervous breakdowns as part of his process of making records! He mixes, remixes and has a nervous breakdown. That's why they're always finished up by his engineers, Nigel Green or Mike Shipley.

"I went to Dublin to meet the band, where they were living in tax exile. They're great kids, but they were like little boys lost."

"While I was talking to them, Rick Allen came up behind me and said, 'I really want to be on this record.'

"I said, 'Hey! You're the drummer, you'll be on the record!' And then I found out he isn't even on 'Pyromania', it's all machines. He isn't on 'Hysteria' either.

"So we get the drum machine out, like Mutt says, and program it. Rick starts to play along, and he's really good! He was as good as any rock 'n' roll drummer I've ever worked with. So we use all live drums.

"Mutt comes down two weeks into recording, (He had helped the band during pre-production but originally opted out of producing. - Ed.) listens to a little of the drums, which sound perfect to me. And he goes, 'What are you doing? You're gonna throw these poor kids careers' in the toilet!' This was with the drummer right there! So we have to do the drums his way.

"Joe Elliot was the hardest to get along with. He's got a great really low voice, and a great high voice, but he has a real problem in the middle registers. So we start on a verse, and it's in the middle registers and he's having trouble."

"So I said, 'Let's skip onto the chorus to get you going,' because that was higher. It was good, so I say, 'Lets do another track,' and after a while he comes storming in the control room and says 'What the f**k are you doing?'

"It turns out that when Mutt does vocals, he uses one track and he won't let him go on to the second line of the song until he has the first line right! And he keeps erasing the first line till it's right! Joe was going, 'How am I supposed to feel the song if I'm jumping to the chorus!'

"It's a very bizarre set-up there. I got sick of it after about four months. Mutt did almost everything. He created them, and they were lost without him."

[steveo777]

Here's his studio in his Switzerland mansion... drool....

It looks almost exactly like mine but a little smaller. That S.O.B copied me!

Man, what a man cave that is!

And that MAN is now divorced. Let's see....a studio like that or Shania Twain. No contest for me. Dumbass!
Oh, he had an affair, I almost forgot. Take about revenge, apparently she is with the ex of the one he was
doing. They guy really is a mutt.

[slucero]

I've been a fan of Mutt since I was a teen... even have a framed letter from him on my wall.. as a young musician getting into engineering I wrote him, and asked how they got those huge drum sounds on Pyromania, he wrote me back from Battery Studios in London...

"Top o' the morn to ye, lad! Yew liked those 'big' drum sounds, eh? Well, thanks from yours truly, o' course those sounds are all boxed. Yew know: canned! Rick Allen, bless the lad's heart, he's got the internal metronome of a hound with its tail stuck in an electrical socket! He picked up his sticks and I said, 'What the hell are yew doing? Who do ye think ye are, Brian Downey? — Bugger off!' Lucky for the boys, there's this brilliant invention called the drum machine. I let Rick bash a few cymbals on the alb'm, but he's not even onnit, hardly! Easiest job in the band! Buttons, buttons, slider! Up the vol! Really, the saps are lucky I didn't put 'Mutt Lange Band' on the cov'r!"




http://www.jimsteinman.com/kerrang.htm

"It was a weird time," says Steinman. "Mutt Lange is totally insane. He has nervous breakdowns as part of his process of making records! He mixes, remixes and has a nervous breakdown. That's why they're always finished up by his engineers, Nigel Green or Mike Shipley.

"I went to Dublin to meet the band, where they were living in tax exile. They're great kids, but they were like little boys lost."

"While I was talking to them, Rick Allen came up behind me and said, 'I really want to be on this record.'

"I said, 'Hey! You're the drummer, you'll be on the record!' And then I found out he isn't even on 'Pyromania', it's all machines. He isn't on 'Hysteria' either.

"So we get the drum machine out, like Mutt says, and program it. Rick starts to play along, and he's really good! He was as good as any rock 'n' roll drummer I've ever worked with. So we use all live drums.

"Mutt comes down two weeks into recording, (He had helped the band during pre-production but originally opted out of producing. - Ed.) listens to a little of the drums, which sound perfect to me. And he goes, 'What are you doing? You're gonna throw these poor kids careers' in the toilet!' This was with the drummer right there! So we have to do the drums his way.

"Joe Elliot was the hardest to get along with. He's got a great really low voice, and a great high voice, but he has a real problem in the middle registers. So we start on a verse, and it's in the middle registers and he's having trouble."

"So I said, 'Let's skip onto the chorus to get you going,' because that was higher. It was good, so I say, 'Lets do another track,' and after a while he comes storming in the control room and says 'What the f**k are you doing?'

"It turns out that when Mutt does vocals, he uses one track and he won't let him go on to the second line of the song until he has the first line right! And he keeps erasing the first line till it's right! Joe was going, 'How am I supposed to feel the song if I'm jumping to the chorus!'

"It's a very bizarre set-up there. I got sick of it after about four months. Mutt did almost everything. He created them, and they were lost without him."

It's pretty common knowledge that Pyromania and Hysteria drums were done with a Fairlight... Mutt told me as much in the letter he sent.. that info is all over the interwebs...what's your point?

Def Leppard fired Steinman too, because he was primarily a songwriter rather than a producer and was more interested in making a raw rock n' roll record and capturing the moment, warts and all, while the band was still interested in a bigger, more pristine pop production. It's incredibly ironic that Steinman "the songwriter" was canned, Mutt re-drafted.. and the result is Hysteria, which had 6 hit singles... kinda makes one wonder who the better songwriter is...

Steinman, who didn't even have the guts to quit... and made them fire him... was the wrong man for the job... and when Steinman sells at Mutt levels (over 200 Million)... maybe there's something to talk about..

[slucero]

Here's his studio in his Switzerland mansion... drool....

It looks almost exactly like mine but a little smaller. That S.O.B copied me!

Man, what a man cave that is!

And that MAN is now divorced. Let's see....a studio like that or Shania Twain. No contest for me. Dumbass!
Oh, he had an affair, I almost forgot. Take about revenge, apparently she is with the ex of the one he was
doing. They guy really is a mutt.

Ya - Mutt gets the Dumbshit of the Century award for what he did to Shania... no doubt.

[verslibre]

It's pretty common knowledge that Pyromania and Hysteria drums were done with a Fairlight... Mutt told me as much in the letter he sent.. that info is all over the interwebs...what's your point?

Wow, a real live Mutt Lange fanboy, huh? Dude, it was a JOKE. Didn't you read the mock letter?

Def Leppard fired Steinman too, because

I don't give a shit about Steinman. I only posted that link in case there may be somebody on this forum who doesn't know the drums on those albums were digitally realized.

And really, the drum programming is kind of stiff when you focus on it, but when you take in a song as a whole, you don't even give a shit. Listen to how unnatural the fills sound.

and the result is Hysteria, which had 6 hit singles... kinda makes one wonder who the better songwriter is...

Hysteria is a travesty compared to High 'N Dry and Pyromania. It is nadless, soulless, lame, contrived...a real sellout of an album. The effects all over the instruments and vocals are the equivalent of a neutering. The only decent song is "Run Riot" and maybe one other. They sacrificed their rock fan base for moola.

[slucero]

It's pretty common knowledge that Pyromania and Hysteria drums were done with a Fairlight... Mutt told me as much in the letter he sent.. that info is all over the interwebs...what's your point?

Wow, a real live Mutt Lange fanboy, huh? Dude, it was a JOKE. Didn't you read the mock letter?

Def Leppard fired Steinman too, because

I don't give a shit about Steinman. I only posted that link in case there may be somebody on this forum who doesn't know the drums on those albums were digitally realized.

And really, the drum programming is kind of stiff when you focus on it, but when you take in a song as a whole, you don't even give a shit. Listen to how unnatural the fills sound.

and the result is Hysteria, which had 6 hit singles... kinda makes one wonder who the better songwriter is...

Hysteria is a travesty compared to High 'N Dry and Pyromania. It is nadless, soulless, lame, contrived...a real sellout of an album. The effects all over the instruments and vocals are the equivalent of a neutering. The only decent song is "Run Riot" and maybe one other. They sacrificed their rock fan base for moola.

Fuck you asshole... He's a legendary engineer, producer and a pretty damn good songwriter... anyone who's into audio engineering has heard of Mutt and his work.

And no... You didn't post the link "in case there may be somebody on this forum who doesn't know the drums on those albums were digitally realized".. you posted it to because you don't like Mutt or his skills... and thats why the rest of your post rips on his work on Hysteria ... You have enough of an opinion on Hysteria that you've had to have listened to it more than once I bet... prolly even bought the thing...

You're entitled to Lep-hate... but instead of being disingenuous, at least be a man, own it and be honest about it...

And when it's all said and done.. the Lep boys wanted Lange... and were more than willing to "sacrifice their rock fan base for moola", and would have likely told you to go off and write your own hit song... "Alone with your principles"

[Michigan Girl]

I've been a fan of Mutt since I was a teen... even have a framed letter from him on my wall.. as a young musician getting into engineering I wrote him, and asked how they got those huge drum sounds on Pyromania, he wrote me back from Battery Studios in London... blew my mind...

This is way cool!!!




ANN WILSON LOOKS INCREDIBLE!!!

[Deb]

I've been a fan of Mutt since I was a teen... even have a framed letter from him on my wall.. as a young musician getting into engineering I wrote him, and asked how they got those huge drum sounds on Pyromania, he wrote me back from Battery Studios in London... blew my mind...

This is way cool!!!


ANN WILSON LOOKS INCREDIBLE!!!

+1 on both counts!

[verslibre]

Fuck you asshole... He's a legendary engineer, producer and a pretty damn good songwriter... anyone who's into audio engineering has heard of Mutt and his work.

And no... You didn't post the link "in case there may be somebody on this forum who doesn't know the drums on those albums were digitally realized".. you posted it to because you don't like Mutt or his skills... and thats why the rest of your post rips on his work on Hysteria ... You have enough of an opinion on Hysteria that you've had to have listened to it more than once I bet... prolly even bought the thing...

You're entitled to Lep-hate... but instead of being disingenuous, at least be a man, own it and be honest about it...

Settle down, kiddo. OF COURSE I "bought the thing"! I bought it back in '87, when it was released! Did you??

Pyromania came out in '83...it was a long wait till Hysteria. At first it was alright because it was new. "Women" and "Run Riot" were songs I could dig. But then the newness wore off and I couldn't help but focus on how processed everything sounded. Gated drum sounds. Guitars with no bite. Nonexistent bass. The Leppard had been neutered!

[No Surprize]

Who really fucking cares if it was "digitally realized"? It's the end product that counts and all that matters. Now were going to hear how "Back in Black" was "digitally altered" so we could all understand one syllable of a Brian Johnson sung tune. Or were gonna hear how Mutt reached into his magic bag of "Digitally altered alien artifacts" and superimposed his will on "foreigner 4" and it became a mega-best seller. Hell, Mutt even produced "High N Dry", yea, imagine that shit. Raw, to the balls rock. Sure, "Hysteria" is a far cry from HND, even PYRO, and it didn't sell great right away. It took some time. As far as "guitars with no bite", sounds fucking great to me. Having 2 guitarist playing 2 totally different parts sounding as one and not some long ass overblown Yngwie Malmsteen shredding solo. It's the song that matters in the end. Oh, yeah, umm, Rush. A great trio of musicians. To bad Lee's voice sounds like nails on a chalkboard.

[verslibre]

Who really fucking cares if it was "digitally realized"?

Yeah, who cares if you have a drummer but the producer thinks he sucks so he uses canned sounds, instead? Either that means you need another drummer (and it's not like Lepp beats are particularly complex ones) or you have a producer who's a wanker.

It's the end product that counts and all that matters. Now were going to hear how "Back in Black" was "digitally altered" so we could all understand one syllable of a Brian Johnson sung tune. Or were gonna hear how Mutt reached into his magic bag of "Digitally altered alien artifacts" and superimposed his will on "foreigner 4" and it became a mega-best seller.

Ramble on, rambler...

Hell, Mutt even produced "High N Dry", yea, imagine that shit. Raw, to the balls rock.

Yeah...and? He didn't maintain that approach, did he? He filed off all the sharp edges so nobody would get hurt. Then he overlaid velvet. What was he producing...Def-fucking-Leppard or Eurythmics???

As far as "guitars with no bite", sounds fucking great to me. Having 2 guitarist playing 2 totally different parts sounding as one and not some long ass overblown Yngwie Malmsteen shredding solo. It's the song that matters in the end.

Those are the only two approaches to playing guitar? Wow, thanks for informing us. I didn't realize it only boiled down to neoclassical shredding or blurring two "distinct" guitar lines to be virtually indistinguishable from each other.

Oh, yeah, umm, Rush. A great trio of musicians. To bad Lee's voice sounds like nails on a chalkboard.

Geddy doesn't have to lip his lead vocals.

[RossValoryRocks]

Mutt Lange is an idiot...want the proof? He got rid of Shania...one of the 10 hottest women in music for a hag...more proof you say?? The one if he left Shania for is on the right:

[Deb]

Mutt Lange is an idiot...want the proof? He got rid of Shania...one of the 10 hottest women in music for a hag...more proof you say?? The one if he left Shania for is on the right:

LOL, Mutt traded down, Shania traded up.....

[FinnFreak]

Mutt Lange is an idiot...want the proof? He got rid of Shania...one of the 10 hottest women in music for a hag...more proof you say?? The one if he left Shania for is on the right:

LOL, Mutt traded down, Shania traded up.....

From Ann Wilson to the Lange break up story..?

The *only* public version of it is Shania's...

Mutt has some strange ways of handling affairs, though... instead of going on with his "affair" in Switzerland, he lived in Chad Kroeger's house for six months working on Nickleback's Dark Horse album.

Billy Squier talks about his album "Signs of Life" (1984) :


"I've always looked at "Signs of Life" as being a pivotal record in my career, though for reasons you might not expect. Going into the project, things couldn't have been better. I'd just come off a great success with the "Emotions..." LP and tour. I'd bought my first home in the city where I'd struggled to make ends meet for over ten years while pursuing my dream of a career in music...the only dream that ever really mattered. I had back-to-back smash records and was on top of the world (or close to it). But things aren't always as they seem.

I'd signed up Robert John "Mutt" Lange to produce SOL. Mutt was really coming into his own, having produced major records for AC/DC, Foreigner, and Def Leppard, and the idea of working together really excited both of us. Several years earlier, before meeting Mutt, I'd had a brief tryst with his wife, whom I met at Tramp's, the famous London night club owned by Johnny Gold. This sort of dalliance was fairly common practice in those days, and I never gave it much thought. As we readied ourselves to go into the studio, Mutt fell behind schedule with The Cars "Heartbeat City" record, so I took the band into rehearsals to start fleshing out the new material I'd written. One day, we were interrupted by a long-distance phone call from Mutt: "Billy, I know all about you and Olga - I'm not doing the record." Just like that, our spectacular collaboration was in ruins. I was stunned. I soon learned that the two of them were breaking up and surmised she must have said something catty, to the effect of, "Have fun with Billy, I did." Mutt is a very decisive and strong-willed person, and when he makes his mind up, that's that. He would not allow us to have a conversation about what had transpired...he just shut the door and walked away."

www.billysquier.com

Three sides to every story..? (maybe more)


John -

[DrFU]

Girl rocks!

[steveo777]

Girl rocks!

I've had a crush on Nancy forever. Yes, she rocks!

[RPM]

Ann Wilson is one of the best female vocalist of all time.
Mutt Lange is one of the most successful and influential producer/engineer/songwriter's EVER (my fav)
Shania Twain is a wonderful talented beautiful Singer.
Mutt Lange is an idiot.