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Postby Gaffguitars » Thu Mar 04, 2004 2:49 am

This was posted by Peter on his website www.petercriss.net. What do you guys think? Or is Eric Singer so much better that it doesn't matter? I can't wait to see how Gene and Paul spin this. Gene's album is called ASSHOLE. Seems like a good title since he seems to be one. Too bad.



To the fans...
March 2nd
I have been receiving thousands of fan mail as to what is going on with KISS. Today, my contract ran out. No one, again no one has called me, or my attorney about an extension for future touring. As a founding member I find this to be disrespectful to me, and to the fans that have made us one of the biggest bands in the world. You will always get the truth from me, I have no reason to lie to the people that gave me such a wonderful life. And that’s the god’s honest truth.



God bless,

Peter Criss



P.S.

This is the stuff that breaks my heart.
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Postby toby70374 » Thu Mar 04, 2004 3:38 am

i dont know what to make of this.why would they not get peter back in unless they had problems with him or they figure this tour may not generate much cash so lets get someone who is willing to play for much less.its a shame cause eric is such a hugh tallent.guess greed from mr asshole will conqore all.
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Postby Kenny » Thu Mar 04, 2004 12:07 pm

Ya know, Gene Simmons has given me and a lot of other people a lot of music which has provided a soundtrack for our lives - some folks are pretty quick to label him as an asshole, greedy, whatever.
He may well be, but then there are two sides to every story.

Personally, I think Singer should stay with the Alice Cooper band. Little more stable employment prospects.
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Postby Gaffguitars » Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:12 pm

Kenny wrote:Ya know, Gene Simmons has given me and a lot of other people a lot of music which has provided a soundtrack for our lives - some folks are pretty quick to label him as an asshole, greedy, whatever.
He may well be, but then there are two sides to every story.

Personally, I think Singer should stay with the Alice Cooper band. Little more stable employment prospects.



It's his own label. However, I agree with you that Eric should stay in Alice's band. He is soooo good in that situation. Alice's music really complements his style. KISS does not. Alive III proves it. Detroit with a double kick? Please.


I believe Peter was only back for one reason. They needed him to sing Beth for the kiss symphony. Ace has been calling Gene and Paul liars for years. I guess he is right. They have done nothing to ever prove him wrong.

They're making money now. The fans don't matter anymore. They're tapping the pockets of the general public until they stop buying tickets and T-shirts.
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Postby Kenny » Fri Mar 05, 2004 12:19 am

"It's his own label"? Gaff, I wasn't referring to any record label!
I was referring to the fact that fans can be very fickle sometimes.

If people think Simmons is a lying, greedy, asshole, fine - don't buy anymore Kiss product or anything with Simmon's name on it.

When it comes to Criss, like I said, there are two sides to every story......
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Postby Gaffguitars » Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:20 pm

Kenny wrote:"It's his own label"? Gaff, I wasn't referring to any record label!
I was referring to the fact that fans can be very fickle sometimes.

If people think Simmons is a lying, greedy, asshole, fine - don't buy anymore Kiss product or anything with Simmon's name on it.

When it comes to Criss, like I said, there are two sides to every story......


I didn't mean "record label". I meant he has labeled himself an Asshole with the title of his new album. I know there are two sides to the story but over the years I find Gene to be all spin. He been full of shit for years. I didn't see them last year and I won't be going this year. It's a shame.
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Postby Kenny » Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:25 am

Ah, so you think he is referring to himself with the name of the album........I expect we will have to hear the title track before we can determine whether that is true or not.
I suspect he is way too vain to call himself an 'asshole'......however, he may also be a realist, so who knows.
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Postby Gaffguitars » Sun Mar 07, 2004 4:19 am

Kenny wrote:Ah, so you think he is referring to himself with the name of the album........I expect we will have to hear the title track before we can determine whether that is true or not.
I suspect he is way too vain to call himself an 'asshole'......however, he may also be a realist, so who knows.


You maybe right. I could be jumping to conclusions. I have seen him quoted as saying " OK I'm an asshole. So what's your point?" several times on his website and interviews. That's why I came to the conclusion I did. But still, if Peter is correct then it's a pretty shitty thing to do to him and the fans.
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Postby Kenny » Sun Mar 07, 2004 1:15 pm

yeah.....if they weren't going to renew Peter's 'contract', at least they could have contacted him or his management.
You know, now that you've said that, I have also read Simmons saying things like "Yeah I'm an asshole - a rich one"......

Pretty fucked up idea to call an album that though.
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Postby MAGICTOUCH » Fri Mar 12, 2004 5:06 pm

Maybe when putting a title on the album he was thinking of someone else?
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Postby Kenny » Fri Mar 12, 2004 11:40 pm

MAGICTOUCH wrote:Maybe when putting a title on the album he was thinking of someone else?

Anything is possible when it comes to Simmons I suppose.....tell me, as KISS freak, would you be looking at buying the Simmons and Stanley solo albums Magic?
Myself, I might have a listen to Paul Stanley's , but I just don't know about Gene.
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Postby Kenny » Sun Mar 14, 2004 3:35 am

Magic?.........MAGIC???
Awww, come on!!!!!
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Postby Wayne » Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:55 am

Peter Criss one of the greatest rock drummers of all time who has already made rock history a million times over as a member of the legendary rock band Kiss while this is just his rock star ego getting the best of him with this whining statement blaming Gene & Paul!!!
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Postby Bobby Van Halen » Wed Apr 07, 2004 1:46 pm

ive met peter criss,he's an asshole.Enough said
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Postby Gaffguitars » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:00 am

Bobby Van Halen wrote:ive met peter criss,he's an asshole.Enough said



So you say. I've met him several times. He was always more than cool.
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Postby NUBMAN » Fri Apr 09, 2004 1:05 am

Kiss should have packed it in after the Reunion tour. Everything past that has been total cheeseball cash ins. I have been a huge Kiss fan since the mid-70's and have seen them live in every decade. I dont care very much for the Thayer version of Ace, although I know Thayer plays the songs as good or better than Ace can. Singer is awesome too. Dressing him as the Catman is just plain bad. Its Gene proving a point to Ace & Pete that he can do whatever he wants. Gene pulls this stuff before every tour. He replaces the originals and hopes to break Ace & Pete by having them crawl back for substationally less money. $$$$$ is what it is all about. Cash and power. I will agree that maybe Ace and Pete shouldnt get as much as Paul and Gene. After all, they did carry on the band when Ace & Pete left. They returned as "Employees" of the Kiss company in 1996, not full partners in a 4 way split.
The only member of Kiss that has truely still got it is Paul. Ace is a mess (just look back at the Farewell tour footage) and Pete is simply too old and unable to play like he used to (again, look at any tour footage...not the symphony stuff).
Seeing a Kiss show is still fun IMO. The music is actually better without Ace & Pete playing sloppily. However, knowing that it is only really Gene and Paul takes a little away from it for me. Saddens me. There comes a time when old sparky needs to be put to sleep. I think its time for sparky to wipe off the makeup and take a deep breath of the gas.
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