Greatest Sports Dynasty, EVER...Who Is It?

[Enigma869]

Would love to hear from some of the great sports fans on this board. I have my answer and I honestly don't even think there is any team in any sport who is a close second, but I'd love to hear your opinion. Which team had the greatest run of winning, EVER, in any sport and why do you think that team was the most dominant team?

[ScarabGator]

Miami Dolphins, 1972-1973. Period.

[gr8dane]

Manchester United.2008.
Won the league premier division.
Won the Football charity cup.
Won the European cup and
Won the club world cup.

They have won about 54 different titles in club history.

[Enigma869]

Manchester United.2008.
Won the league premier division.
Won the Football charity cup.
Won the European cup and
Won the club world cup.

They have won about 54 different titles in club history.

I would say for soccer fans, that would easily be the winner. For the sake of this question, I am referring to American sports teams only, because most of us don't know (and more importantly don't care) if a soccer ball is full of air or feathers

[Enigma869]

Miami Dolphins, 1972-1973. Period.

Sorry dude, but two seasons of success isn't close to a "dynasty" by anyone's definition!

[ScarabGator]

Miami Dolphins, 1972-1973. Period.

Sorry dude, but two seasons of success isn't close to a "dynasty" by anyone's definition!

its the level of success that I build my case on!

[Maui Tom]

UCLA/Wooden

[Enigma869]

UCLA/Wooden

That's a great one Tom.

[S2M]

That's an easy one, John....

The Boston Celtics from 1957-1969. 11 Titles in 13 years. EIGHT in a row from '59-'66. No-brainer.


And the reason was Bill Russell....

[Enigma869]

That's an easy one, John....

The Boston Celtics from 1957-1969. 11 Titles in 13 years. EIGHT in a row from '59-'66. No-brainer.


And the reason was Bill Russell....

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner. I should have known that it would be you who would get that There is NOTHING close to it in professional sports and Wooden and UCLA is the only thing that comes close in college sports. I'm convinced that Bill Russell is the most under-appreciated athlete in the history of sports. Dude has more rings than he has fingers to put them on. I doubt you'll ever see 11 championships won in 13 years by ANY team or player. It still disappoints me that the city of Boston has absolutely NOTHING named in honor of Russell (Especially in a city that has the Ted Williams Tunnel). Hell, in Chicago, they have a statue of Jordan and as great as Jordan was, Russell won twice as many championships!

[Ehwmatt]

If individuals count, then it's gotta be Roger Federer. Not only does the guy have tons of records and overall dominance, but the records he has set have for the most part completely blown the previous record holder's number away.

16 Grand Slam titles (all-time record), 6 Grand Slam Runner Ups
Career Grand Slam (won all four during career - only 6 other men have done this dating back to early 1900s)
4 ATP Masters Year End Championships
87% career winning percentage in slams
23 straight Grand Slam semifinals or better (all time record)
65 career titles
741-174 career W/L
17 Masters Series Titles (T-2nd all time)
285 weeks at ATP number 1 (2nd all time - 1 week behind Sampras), 237 CONSECUTIVE weeks ATP number 1 (1st all time - next best is Connors at 160)

He also put together some of the most dominant overall years ever when he was in his prime in the middle of the decade:

2004: 74-6 (W-Australian Open, Wimbledon, US Open)
2005: 81-4 (W-Wimbledon, US Open)
2006: 92-5 (W-Australian Open, Wimbledon, US Open)
2007: 68-9 (W-Australian Open, Wimbledon, US Open)

He has had some ups and downs the last few years, but this year, he still won the Australian Open, maintained his Grand Slam semifinal streak until the French Open this year, appeared in the QFs at the French and Wimbledon, the SFs at the US Open, and just dominated his group in the round robin at the year-ending championships to book a place in the SFs and a shot at the year-ending Masters' Cup.

When he was in his prime, he not only dominated, but he also looked incredible doing it. He had every shot in the book, was textbook smooth, and simply exuded cool. You never saw him sweat, get mad, or get tired. Not even Sampras could come close to matching all of that.


As for teams, I don't think you can beat the Russell-era Celtics. Fuck Boston though.

[Behshad]

If its personal records, there it only one.... The Great One,,,

Regular season records (40)
1.Most goals: 894 in 1,487 games
2.Most goals, including playoffs: 1,016 in 1,487 regular season and 208 playoff games
3.Most goals, one season: 92 in 1981–82, 80-game schedule
4.Most goals, one season, including playoffs: 100 in 1983–84, 87 goals in 74 regular season games and 13 goals in 19 playoff games
5.Most goals, 50 games from start of season: 61 in 1981–82 (October 7, 1981 to January 22, 1982, 80-game schedule) and 1983–84 (October 5, 1983 to January 25, 1984), 80-game schedule
6.Most goals, one period: 4 (Tied with 10 other players) February 18, 1981
7.Most assists: 1,963
8.Most assists, including playoffs: 2,223
9.Most assists, one season: 163 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule
10.Most assists, one season, including playoffs: 174 in 1985–86, 163 assists in 80 regular season games and 11 assists in 10 playoff games
11.Most assists, one game: 7 (tied with Billy "The Kid" Taylor) on three occasions—February 15, 1980; December 11, 1985; February 14, 1986
12.Most assists, one road game: 7 (tied with Billy Taylor) December 11, 1985
13.Most points: 2,857 in 1,487 games (894 goals, 1,963 assists)
14.Most points, including playoffs: 3,239 in 1,487 regular season and 208 playoff games. (1016 goals, 2223 assists)
15.Most points, one season: 215 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule (52 goals, 163 assists)
16.Most points, one season, including playoffs: 255 in 1984–85; 208 points in 80 regular season games and 47 points in 18 playoff games
17.Most overtime assists, career: 15
18.Most goals by a centre, career: 894
19.Most goals by a centre, one season: 92 in 1981–82, 80-game schedule
20.Most assists by a centre, career: 1,963
21.Most assists by a centre, one season: 163 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule
22.Most points by a centre, career: 2,857
23.Most points by a centre, one season: 215 in 1985–86, 80-game schedule
24.Most assists in one game by a player in his first season: 7 on February 15, 1980
25.Highest goals-per-game average, one season: 1.18 in 1983–84, 87 goals in 74 games
26.Highest assists-per-game average, career (300 min.): 1.321 -- 1,963 assists in 1,487 games
27.Highest assists-per-game average, one season: 2.04 in 1985–86, 163 assists in 80 games
28.Highest points-per-game average, one season (among players with 50-or-more points): 2.77 in 1983–84, 205 points in 74 games
29.Most 40-or-more goal seasons: 12 in 20 seasons
30.Most consecutive 40-or-more goal seasons: 12 from 1979–80 to 1990–91
31.Most 50-or-more goal seasons: 9 (tied with Mike Bossy)
32.Most 60-or-more goal seasons: 5 (tied with Mike Bossy)
33.Most consecutive 60-or-more goals seasons: 4 from 1981–82 to 1984–85
34.Most 100-or-more point seasons: 15
35.Most consecutive 100-or-more point seasons: 13 from 1979–80 to 1991–92
36.Most three-or-more goal games, career: 50 -- 37 three-goal (hat trick) games; nine four-goal games; four five-goal games
37.Most three goal games, one season: 10 (done twice) in 1981–82 and 1983–84
38.Longest consecutive assist scoring streak: 23 games in 1990–91, 48 assists
39.Longest consecutive point-scoring streak: 51 Games in 1983–84 (October 5, 1983 to January 28, 1984, 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points)
40.Longest consecutive point-scoring streak from start of season: 51 in 1983–84; 61 goals, 92 assists for 153 points (October 5, 1983 to January 28, 1984)
[edit] Playoff records (15)
1.Most playoff goals, career: 122
2.Most playoff assists, career: 260
3.Most assists, one playoff year: 31 in 1988 (19 games)
4.Most assists in one series (other than final): 14 (tied with Rick Middleton) in 1985 Conference Finals (six games vs. Chicago)
5.Most assists in final series: 10 in 1988 (four games, plus suspended game vs. Boston)
6.Most assists, one playoff game: 6 (tied with Mikko Leinonen) on April 9, 1987
7.Most assists, one playoff period: 3 -- Three assists by one player in one period of a playoff game has been recorded on 70 occasions. Gretzky has had three assists in one period five times
8.Most points, career: 382 -- 122 goals and 260 assists
9.Most points, one playoff year: 47 in 1985 (17 goals and 30 assists in 18 games)
10.Most points in final series: 13 in 1988 three goals and 10 assists (four games plus suspended game vs. Boston, three goals)
11.Most points, one playoff period: 4 (tied with nine other players)
12.Most short-handed goals, one playoff year: 3 (tied with five other players) 1983
13.Most short-handed goals, one playoff game: 2 (tied with eight other players) April 6, 1983
14.Most game winning goals in playoffs, career: 24 (tied with Brett Hull)
15.Most three-or-more goals games (hat trick): 10 (eight three-goal games, two four-goal games)
[edit] All-Star records (6)
1.Most All-Star game goals, career: 13 (in 18 games played)
2.Most All-Star game goals, one game: 4 (tied with three players) 1983 Campbell Conference
3.Most All-Star game goals, one period: 4 1983 Campbell Conference, third period
4.Most All-Star game assists, career: 12 (tied with four players)
5.Most All-Star game points, career: 25 (13 goals, 12 assists in 18 games)
6.Most All-Star game points, one period: 4 (tied with Mike Gartner and Adam Oates) 1983 Campbell Conference, third period (four goals)

Records update
Since Wayne Gretzky’s retirement, two of his records have fallen and he has gained one record, leaving him with a new total of 60 official records.

Gretzky’s record of 15 regular season overtime assists has now been passed by three players. They are Nicklas Lidstrom (16), Adam Oates (17), and Mark Messier (18).
Joe Sakic (16), Mark Messier (14), and Ray Bourque (13) have passed Gretzky’s record (12) for most All-star game assists.
Wayne Gretzky finished his career with a 1.921 points per game average. Only Mario Lemieux, then retired, had a better points per game average at that time. Lemieux since came out of retirement in 2000 and played until the 2005–06 NHL season. Lemieux's points per game average has dropped to 1.883 before retiring once again midway through the 2005–06 season. This gives the record back to Gretzky.
[edit] Unofficial records
Along with his numerous official records, Wayne Gretzky also has many "unofficial" records. These other records are not recognised by the NHL Official Guide and Record Book.

Youngest player to score 50 goals in a season (19 years, two months)
Most points by an NHL player in his first year: 137. He was not considered a rookie in his first year, so the rookie record belongs to Teemu Selanne with 132
Most assists by an NHL player in his first year: 86. The rookie record is held jointly by Peter Stastny and Joe Juneau with 70 assists. Note that the record book gives Gretzky the record for most assists and points in a game as a first year player, but not the season totals
Most 200-or-more point seasons: 4. Gretzky owns the official record for most 100 point seasons. He is the only player to reach 200 points in a season
Most consecutive 200 point seasons: 3
Most 70-or-more goal seasons: 4. The NHL has a record for most 60 goal seasons, but not 70. Eight players have achieved 70 goals, and Brett Hull did so three times.
Most consecutive 70 goal seasons: 4
Most 80-or-more goal seasons: 2
Most 90-or-more goal seasons: 1. Gretzky is the only player to achieve this
Fastest 50 goals from start of season: 50 goals in 39 games. 50 goals in 50 games is labelled as the most difficult one to break of all of Gretzky's records. The NHL has an official record for the most goals in 50 games, but not the fastest 50 goals
Fastest 100 points: 34 games in 1983–84
Most seasons averaging at least 1 point per game: 19
Most consecutive seasons averaging at least 1 point per game: 19
Most seasons averaging at least 2 points per game: 10
Most consecutive seasons averaging at least 2 points per game: 9
Most game winning goals in the playoffs: 24 (tied with Brett Hull)
Most 100-or-more assist seasons: 11
Most consecutive 100-or-more assist seasons: 11
Most NHL and WHA regular season assists: 2,027
Most NHL and WHA regular season points: 2,967
Most NHL and WHA regular season and playoff goals: 1,072 (one more than Gordie Howe)
Most NHL and WHA regular season and playoff assists: 2,297
Most NHL and WHA regular season and playoff points: 3,369
Most MVP awards (Hart Trophy): 9
Most scoring championships (Art Ross Trophy): 10
Largest margin of victory in the scoring race: 79 (in 1983–84)
Most seasons where he was his team's leading scorer: 19
Most official NHL records: 61 on retirement, 60 at present
Highest Plus/Minus in a Single Playoff Year: +28 (1984-85)
The following are milestone records:

Fastest 400 Goals (436 games)
Fastest 500 Goals (575 games)
Fastest 600 Goals (718 games, one less than Mario Lemieux)
Fastest 700 Goals (886 games)
Fastest 800 Goals (1116 games)
Fastest 1000 Points (424 games)
Only Player To Reach 2000 Career Points
Only Player To Reach 3000 Career Points, Regular Season and Playoffs combined


Career statistics
Regular season Playoffs
Season Team League GP G A Pts PIM +/- PP SH GW GP G A Pts PIM
1975–76 Toronto Nationals MetJHL 28 27 33 60 7 — — — — — — — — —
1976–77 Seneca Nationals MetJHL 32 36 36 72 35 — — — — 23 40 35 75 —
1976–77 Peterborough Petes OHL 3 0 3 3 0 — — — — — — — — —
1977–78 Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds OHL 64 70 112 182 14 — — — — — — — — —
1978–79 Indianapolis Racers WHA 8 3 3 6 0 — — — — — — — — —
1978–79 Edmonton Oilers WHA 72 43 61 104 19 — — — — 13 10 10 20 2
1979–80 Edmonton Oilers NHL 79 51 86 137 21 +15 13 1 6 3 2 1 3 0
1980–81 Edmonton Oilers NHL 80 55 109 164 28 +41 15 4 3 9 7 14 21 4
1981–82 Edmonton Oilers NHL 80 92 120 212 26 +81 18 6 12 5 5 7 12 8
1982–83 Edmonton Oilers NHL 80 71 125 196 59 +60 18 6 9 16 12 26 38 4
1983–84 Edmonton Oilers NHL 74 87 118 205 39 +76 20 12 11 19 13 22 35 12
1984–85 Edmonton Oilers NHL 80 73 135 208 52 +98 8 11 7 18 17 30 47 4
1985–86 Edmonton Oilers NHL 80 52 163 215 46 +71 11 3 6 10 8 11 19 2
1986–87 Edmonton Oilers NHL 79 62 121 183 28 +70 13 7 4 21 5 29 34 6
1987–88 Edmonton Oilers NHL 64 40 109 149 24 +39 9 5 3 19 12 31 43 16
1988–89 Los Angeles Kings NHL 78 54 114 168 26 +15 11 5 5 11 5 17 22 0
1989–90 Los Angeles Kings NHL 73 40 102 142 42 +8 10 4 4 7 3 7 10 0
1990–91 Los Angeles Kings NHL 78 41 122 163 16 +30 8 0 5 12 4 11 15 2
1991–92 Los Angeles Kings NHL 74 31 90 121 34 -12 12 2 2 6 2 5 7 2
1992–93 Los Angeles Kings NHL 45 16 49 65 6 +6 0 2 1 24 15 25 40 4
1993–94 Los Angeles Kings NHL 81 38 92 130 20 -25 14 4 0 — — — — —
1994–95 Los Angeles Kings NHL 48 11 37 48 6 -20 3 0 1 — — — — —
1995–96 Los Angeles Kings NHL 62 15 66 81 32 -7 5 0 2 — — — — —
1995–96 St. Louis Blues NHL 18 8 13 21 2 -6 1 1 1 13 2 14 16 0
1996–97 New York Rangers NHL 82 25 72 97 28 +12 6 0 2 15 10 10 20 2
1997–98 New York Rangers NHL 82 23 67 90 28 -11 6 0 4 — — — — —
1998–99 New York Rangers NHL 70 9 53 62 14 -23 3 0 3 — — — — —
20 years Totals NHL 1487 894 1963 2857 577 +518 204 73 91 208 122 260 382 66

Awards

Gretzky's statue at Rexall Place, EdmontonHe won nine Hart Trophies, the NHL's most valuable player award, and eight of these were awarded in consecutive years from 1980–87. Gretzky holds the record for most MVP awards of any player in North American professional sports.

Lou Kaplan Trophy (WHA rookie of the year) — 1979
Calder Memorial Trophy (NHL rookie of the year) - 1980
Hart Memorial Trophy (most valuable player) — 1980–87, 1989
Art Ross Trophy (scoring champion) — 1981–87, 1990, 1991, 1994
Conn Smythe Trophy (playoff most valuable player) — 1985, 1988
Lester B. Pearson Award (outstanding player, voted by the players) — 1982–85, 1987
Lady Byng Memorial Trophy (sportsmanship) — 1980, 1991, 1992, 1994, 1999
NHL Goal Scoring leader 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1987, now the Maurice Richard Trophy
NHL Plus/Minus Award (best plus-minus rating) — 1982, 1984^, 1985^, 1987^
Stanley Cup 1984, 1985, 1987, 1988
Canada Cup 1984, 1987, 1991
Clarence S. Campbell Bowl (Western Conference Champions) 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1987, 1988, 1993
Presidents' Trophy (NHL Regular Season Champion) 1986, 1987
Chrysler-Dodge/NHL Performer of the Year – 1985–87
Lester Patrick Trophy (outstanding service to hockey in the United States) — 1994
Lou Marsh Trophy (Canadian athlete of the year) — 1982, 1983, 1985, 1989
Lionel Conacher Award (Canadian male athlete of the year) — 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1985, 1989, 1999
NHL All-Star Game MVP — 1983, 1989, 1999
NHL MVP - Rendez-vous '87
Sports Illustrated Sportsman of the Year: 1982
Associated Press Male Athlete of the Year 1982
Olympic Gold - Hockey (as Executive Director-Manager) 2002
World Cup of Hockey (as Executive Director-Manager) 2004
^- Awarded the defunct Emery Edge Trophy

Honors
8-Time All-NHL First Team (1981–87, 1991)
7-Time All-NHL Second Team (1980, 1988–90, 1994, 1997, 1998)
In 1998, he was ranked number 1 on The Hockey News' list of the 100 Greatest Hockey Players
Hockey Hall Of Fame 1999 Inductee
Officer of the Order of Canada[1]
First international recipient of the Horatio Alger Award[2]
Received star on Canada's Walk of Fame[3]
AP-Athlete Of The Decade, 1980's
Ranked #1 Canadian Athlete of the Century
Sports Illustrated's Hockey Player of the Century
Ranked #5 in both ESPN SportsCentury's and the Associated Press's Top 100 Athletes of the 20th Century (Behind Muhammad Ali, Michael Jordan, Babe Ruth, Jim Brown (ESPN) and Jim Thorpe (AP))
In 2007, he was ranked number 1 in The Hockey News' book The Top 60 Since 1967
IIHF Centennial All-Star Team
Jersey number 99 retired league-wide by NHL

[S2M]

One person isn't a dynasty, and Wayne's stats don't count in my eyes because there was a non-written rule that he was 'not to be touched'....I never saw that guy checked, decked or otherwise touched.....ever. He was allowed free reign to skate, pass, and score.....

[gr8dane]

That's an easy one, John....

The Boston Celtics from 1957-1969. 11 Titles in 13 years. EIGHT in a row from '59-'66. No-brainer.


And the reason was Bill Russell....

Ding, ding, ding! We have a winner. I should have known that it would be you who would get that There is NOTHING close to it in professional sports and Wooden and UCLA is the only thing that comes close in college sports. I'm convinced that Bill Russell is the most under-appreciated athlete in the history of sports. Dude has more rings than he has fingers to put them on. I doubt you'll ever see 11 championships won in 13 years by ANY team or player. It still disappoints me that the city of Boston has absolutely NOTHING named in honor of Russell (Especially in a city that has the Ted Williams Tunnel). Hell, in Chicago, they have a statue of Jordan and as great as Jordan was, Russell won twice as many championships!

That is very impressive,even if I don't care for basketball.

[Ehwmatt]

One person isn't a dynasty, and Wayne's stats don't count in my eyes because there was a non-written rule that he was 'not to be touched'....I never saw that guy checked, decked or otherwise touched.....ever. He was allowed free reign to skate, pass, and score.....

But is one person a dynasty in an individual sport? Or no?

[S2M]

One person isn't a dynasty, and Wayne's stats don't count in my eyes because there was a non-written rule that he was 'not to be touched'....I never saw that guy checked, decked or otherwise touched.....ever. He was allowed free reign to skate, pass, and score.....

But is one person a dynasty in an individual sport? Or no?

Of course...but I think you would substitute 'dynasty' for 'dominant'....semantics? yes....but I think it applies. Glad I could help...

[Ehwmatt]

One person isn't a dynasty, and Wayne's stats don't count in my eyes because there was a non-written rule that he was 'not to be touched'....I never saw that guy checked, decked or otherwise touched.....ever. He was allowed free reign to skate, pass, and score.....

But is one person a dynasty in an individual sport? Or no?

Of course...but I think you would substitute 'dynasty' for 'dominant'....semantics? yes....but I think it applies. Glad I could help...

I mean, despite my post about Roger earlier, dynasty in sports might also imply some kind of continuity within the organization despite major changes - e.g., people move on and leave, retire, trade etc, but the core excellence of the team keeps shining through. So who knows.

[YoungJRNY]

Dynasty is a word and honor thrown around way too often in sports in my opinion. A dynasty should be defined via organization and not via team because if you look at a landscape such as the NFL, never since the hay-day has one team kept the same core of players from top to bottom throughout a set amount of years. The same few core might be there, but teams approach different ways each year so it's very hard to continue the success in the modern day competition whether it be ownership, head coach changes, drafts, trades, free agent signing, etc. A certain team that plays together with the same core group of guys only have SO many years to withhold dominance on a league because window's of opportunity close within a 2-3 year time gap.

With that said, I respect ALL era's of dynasty in sports and it's difficult to choose just one because league's, whichever league it may be, changes so dramatically from year to year as well as the rest of the entire teams' rosters. A change here or change there could make or break a season or a 2-3 year time expectancy so I think every dynasty that's been born deserves their spot in their own category because every teams different in their own special and their unique way in a certain time period of how the league is run at THAT time.

I look more at the organization and see how an ownership and tradition of a team does within their whole franchise and existence and how they respond when things do go wrong and what they do to respond and get back to elite level over a 10-15 year time period to remain competitive. THAT'S impressive to me. One set team isn't going to win the trophy every year, but to stay competitive and relevant is just as impressive givin the intangibles in sports.

If I had to pick the best EVER run in any sport, I'd have to agree that it has to be the Celtics even though basketball doesn't do much for me and believe there's too many gaps to get to that point if the cards are played right in the NBA ( too many 3-peats and back to back Titles over the years lose's the difficulty/credibility level in the NBA and esp MLB.) You could make a case for Jimmie Johnson winning 5 straight titles in NASCAR, but I'll leave that up to Deano, haha. Matt makes a good point in the game of tennis as well, but it's all in how you personally define dynasty.

[Rockindeano]

John, I would have answered Boston Celtics too, had I been up at 615A, you cocksucker.

Matty, is Federer's stats better than Pete Sampras? Also, about dynasties, yes, a tennis player, golfer or racecar driver can be a dynasty, as it is a sport, albeit individual in nature. Posting Gretzky's stat is definitely not a dynasty. I would say only two people have a chance at the Celtics dominant run; Tiger Woods, if he gets his shit together, and Jimmie Johnson(he has won 5 in a row, and that IS a dynasty, whether or not you like the sport or not, you cannot argue the tremendous success he has had).

Dynasties that were pretty good, but fall short of the Celtics:

The 49'ers team in the 80's was pretty fuckin good
The Edmonton Oilers had the 5 Stanley Cups in a row
The Lakers in the 80's were solid
The NY Islanders 4 Cups in a row
The New York Yankees are sports winningest Dynasty, period. What are they up to now, 28 World Championships? They just didn't win as many in a row as Boston did.
Lastly, and I HATE to write this, but UCONN women's basketball is pretty fucking good.

[Behshad]

One person isn't a dynasty, and Wayne's stats don't count in my eyes because there was a non-written rule that he was 'not to be touched'....I never saw that guy checked, decked or otherwise touched.....ever. He was allowed free reign to skate, pass, and score.....

Last I checked, Wayne's amazing skills & stats were more acknowledged and honored than the crap your eyes see

[Ehwmatt]

John, I would have answered Boston Celtics too, had I been up at 615A, you cocksucker.

Matty, is Federer's stats better than Pete Sampras?

Yes - he has him beat in the big category - slams. He also won the French, something Pete never did. He also has more master's titles. Moreover, Sampras never put together the type of dominance that Roger did tournament to tournament over the course of his seasons. His win/loss totals in his prime are simply staggering. Plus, many of Roger's grand slam wins have been utter one-sided spankings, particularly when he was in his prime. Sampras had a lot of rough battles for what he accomplished. Pete was great, but Roger has simply outclassed him in accomplishments. The scariest part of all is that that greasy ass monkey, Nadal, might end up outclassing both of them if he can stay healthy. I hate the guy, but damn he has been beasting.

[Don]

I'll go with the Montreal Canadiens. From 56-79. 15 Stanley Cups n 24 years.

[S2M]

I'll go with the Montreal Canadiens. From 56-79. 15 Stanley Cups n 24 years.

Pretty impressive .625 winning percentage...

The Celtics' .846 percentage is, indeed, better.....

NEXT......

[Enigma869]

One person isn't a dynasty, and Wayne's stats don't count in my eyes because there was a non-written rule that he was 'not to be touched'....I never saw that guy checked, decked or otherwise touched.....ever. He was allowed free reign to skate, pass, and score.....

I can't believe I'm agreeing with S2M again. A "dynasty" is for team sports only and not an individual. As for Gretsky...don't even get me started down that road. Dude was a great player but basically skated on open ice for his entire career with every opposing player to go anywhere near him. Bobby Orr was a more significant player, because what Orr did has never been done before or since him. In spite of all of Gretsky's astonishing records, there have been other guys like him (Mario Lemieux for starters).

[Don]

I'll go with the Montreal Canadiens. From 56-79. 15 Stanley Cups n 24 years.

Pretty impressive .625 winning percentage...

The Celtics' .846 percentage is, indeed, better.....

NEXT......

I knew the percentage was lower. I was thinking of the consistency of winning over a long period of time. They won Cups in the teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. That 3 or 4 generations of fans who got to experience a championship. Not the greatest dynasty short term but long term, right up there with the Yankees.

[Enigma869]

I'll go with the Montreal Canadiens. From 56-79. 15 Stanley Cups n 24 years.

That another REALLY great one Don. Shocking of me as a lifelong Bruins fan to not talk about the Canadiens. I guess I was more focused on American teams but it's tough to ignore the Canadiens great run and great tradition. I also agree with Dean that those Edmonton teams with Messier, Gretsky, Kurri, Glenn Anderson, Paul Coffee, Grant Fuhr, Andy Moog, et, al were REALLY good teams and stacked to the hilt.

[Enigma869]

I knew the percentage was lower. I was thinking of the consistency of winning over a long period of time. They won Cups in the teens, 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s and 90s. That 3 or 4 generations of fans who got to experience a championship. Not the greatest dynasty short term but long term, right up there with the Yankees.

The Montreal Candiens are absolutely the Yankees of hockey. The thing about the Celtics 11 in 13 seasons that has always impressed me is that it's flat out ridiculous to me that any team in any sport could put a streak together like that and it's far more impressive to know that Bill Russell was the only guy who was a member of every one of those teams.

[Rockindeano]

I'll go with the Montreal Canadiens. From 56-79. 15 Stanley Cups n 24 years.

Pretty impressive .625 winning percentage...

The Celtics' .846 percentage is, indeed, better.....

NEXT......

To be fair, it's a whole lot harder to win a Stanley Cup than it is to win a NBA trophy. The hardest trophy in sports to win is the Cup, but you wouldn't know that because your blinded by the fact the Celtics are from Boston.

[Don]

When you watch those old hockey games, it's amazing more guys weren't blinded by getting hit with those pucks.

[Rockindeano]

When you watch those old hockey games, it's amazing more guys weren't blinded by getting hit with those pucks.

Especially Goalies...no masks was fucking insane!