Anyone that thinks the OWS movement is admirable....

[strangegrey]

you need to lay down the crack pipe and watch this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... l1ObUGAoHE

The OWS movement is responsible for public urination / defecation, rapes, and vandalism in all cities where an 'OWS' gathering has occurred.

Irrespective of your political allegiances, you can *not* say the same thing about the Tea Party gatherings.


Discuss....

[ebake02]

They're basically modern day hippies, just as dirty and baked as their 60s counterparts.

[S2M]

Their message is admirable....their execution of said message is deplorable.

[Slander]

They're basically modern day hippies, just as dirty and baked as their 60s counterparts.

Agreed there are some in the crowd, but that's really stroking with too broad of a brush. There have been protest in many countries and cities. Trust me hippies ain't that organized.

[strangegrey]

Their message is admirable....their execution of said message is deplorable.

Huh?

Pray tell....what's the message?

Because I have not been able to find a single unified message throughout the past 2 months. If you ask 10 different OWS scumbags shitting on the street, they will tell you 10 different reasons for their 'protest'. If you can somehow distill a single message that has eluded and escaped the actual protesters for the length of this protest....you are a way smarter than the collective news agencies covering this idiotic protest.

The fact of the matter is that they are pissed that this so-called 'recovery' (which is nothing but -- dirty little secret is that we're still in a depression, your president is just too chickenshit to tell you) has resulted in their inability to get a job......and they're childishly above working for less than their overinflated/perceived self-worth. It's a fucking group temper tantrum.....a juvenile display of idiocy.

So instead, they become useful idiots for the socialist/communist regimes operating in this country....and they're lashing out at the one slice of the economy still capable of giving them a job.


Fucking idiots.


They're serving Obama, Soros and their Alinsky cronies as a means to an end. If their message were truly admirable, they would have marched on washington....the real cause of their economic plight.


Instead, they decide to shit in a park, raping other protesters for 2 months, when they could have been looking for jobs.....




There's ZERO admirable about anything they're doing.......and you can try to rationalize it away by thinking the message and the execution are mutually exclusive.....but the cold, hard, fucking fact here is that they are joined at the hip.

[Slander]

They're serving Obama, Soros and their Alinsky cronies as a means to an end.

yawn zzzzzzzzzz

[strangegrey]

They're serving Obama, Soros and their Alinsky cronies as a means to an end.

yawn zzzzzzzzzz

Fuck off, you're part of the problem if you're going to ignore the evil that has descended on this country.

[Ehwmatt]

i just can't believe people could sit there and literally camp out for weeks on end crying about being down on their luck.

the fact of the matter is i'm a young guy in this economy. and i've locked down a very solid job through hard work and determination. i didn't even stop having fun. i've partied a lot, go to concerts, have a girlfriend, and all that. i was just responsible enough to handle my shit through everything I've done academically and professionally.

i think the "college degree" mindset is to blame. after manufacturing/industrial jobs went the way of the dodo, the last few generations of people have been told that the key to success is "going to college."

Well, unfortunately, once the bottom dropped out, merely being some dickfuck history, philosophy, or political science major isn't enough to make it in a competitive economy where the jobs available demand... *GASP*... wait for it... a marketable skill! nevertheless, hordes of people flock off to college every year, drink and party their ways to mediocre grades with no extracurriculars or other distinctions (sorry, frats/sororities don't count) in a useless liberal arts program/major, and then come out expecting the world owes them a six-figure job.

These clowns just can't seem to understand that you have to distinguish yourself. And more importantly, you have to have a marketable skill.

Frank, the fact of the matter is that for the last 8 years, I've been on the front lines of young people trying to make something of themselves. And the truth is, most people simply don't work that hard. I don't know if it's just more obvious in this generation because Facebook shows you which people dick off more than others or if my generation really is worse. In the end, most people I know in a tough job situation are reaping what they have sown.

It's funny, economic downturn and all, the friends from home I have (or keep up with through Facebook etc) that are doing well in their young careers are people I could have told you in 6th grade would do well for themselves. And the people who don't have jobs, are at OWS, and/or living in daddy's basement at 25/26 years old are the people I could have told you would be doing just that even at age 11 or 12.

[ebake02]

They're basically modern day hippies, just as dirty and baked as their 60s counterparts.

Trust me hippies ain't that organized.

Talking from experience?

[Journey/Survivor]

i think the "college degree" mindset is to blame. after manufacturing/industrial jobs went the way of the dodo, the last few generations of people have been told that the key to success is "going to college."

These clowns just can't seem to understand that you have to distinguish yourself. And more importantly, you have to have a marketable skill.

There's this one particular friend of mine, he's 42 years old, and he's talking about going back to college. He already has degrees, but he's unhappy with where he is professionally.

He was taught to believe that if you get a college degree that the world will cater to you, that everything just falls into place. He keeps seeing his co-workers get promotions while he stays at the same level, and so then he bitches about how he has these degrees and that he should be given promotions.

I've been trying to tell him for years that an ordinary college degree no-longer guarantees anything. that you need to get certified in a particular area of expertise.

[TRAGChick]

i think the "college degree" mindset is to blame. after manufacturing/industrial jobs went the way of the dodo, the last few generations of people have been told that the key to success is "going to college."

These clowns just can't seem to understand that you have to distinguish yourself. And more importantly, you have to have a marketable skill.

There's this one particular friend of mine, he's 42 years old, and he's talking about going back to college. He already has degrees, but he's unhappy with where he is professionally.

He was taught to believe that if you get a college degree that the world will cater to you, that everything just falls into place. He keeps seeing his co-workers get promotions while he stays at the same level, and so then he bitches about how he has these degrees and that he should be given promotions.

I've been trying to tell him for years that an ordinary college degree no-longer guarantees anything. that you need to get certified in a particular area of expertise.

Degree, Shmegree....hell, with my "Music Performance" Degree, I should be on BROADWAY by now..

But, I don't wanna...

Out of SHEER WILL, I got a job within the Advertising Industry as a Media Coordinator - I was a Sales Rep back in the early-mid 90s, but hated it.
I realized I wanted to go into Production.

In 2010, I was hired into a position that I had NO FORMAL TRAINING. But, because I own and maintain tragband.com, I was able to learn REAL QUICK how to manage / change / update online information.

I learned all of that because of MY WILL to want to learn.

Anyone can do ANYTHING they put their minds to! \~/

[Jonny B]

i think the "college degree" mindset is to blame. after manufacturing/industrial jobs went the way of the dodo, the last few generations of people have been told that the key to success is "going to college."

These clowns just can't seem to understand that you have to distinguish yourself. And more importantly, you have to have a marketable skill.

There's this one particular friend of mine, he's 42 years old, and he's talking about going back to college. He already has degrees, but he's unhappy with where he is professionally.

He was taught to believe that if you get a college degree that the world will cater to you, that everything just falls into place. He keeps seeing his co-workers get promotions while he stays at the same level, and so then he bitches about how he has these degrees and that he should be given promotions.

I've been trying to tell him for years that an ordinary college degree no-longer guarantees anything. that you need to get certified in a particular area of expertise.

No, you also need a Master's Degree in Favoritism Manipulation (also known as 'Ass-Kissing.') If the high mucky mucks of your company don't favor you, you don't go anywhere. It doesn't matter how many degrees you have or how hard you work. It took a change in store manager at my work before I FINALLY got out of my previous position and got something a little better. The guy was neck-deep in favorites.

[artist4perry]

Some may have a message, but too many of them are scum that are destroying public property and making an expensive mess. So much for caring for the economic mess in our country. Lets go out and make an expensive nightmare on the taxpayers dime in the name of stupidity. Women who are there are not safe, and are stupid to stay knowing the dangers. There are other ways to get your point across without smelling up the cities and costing a fortune. Got a message for them......... volunteer to clean up after yourself................your momma doesn't live here!

[hoagiepete]

Selfish, lazy and narrow minded.

For the first time in their life they think they are actually doing something. Yup, sitting around for a "cause". They are indeed similar to the hippies that tried to convince themselves that sitting around smoking dope was really doing something productive. In reality, it was an excuse to sit around and smoke dope.

What are they trying to accomplish? Really? What is their goal? Only thing they are succeeding at is hurting the small business owners in the area they "occupy" and annoying those that live there and actually pay rent. Everyone that works for or is actively trying to find ways to make a living could care less about these folks. Not one thing they are doing will impact change, at least the change that they are looking for (whatever that is).

I've spent the last 12 years working to spread the word on the importance of career and technical education and the opportunites available. You don't need a four year degree to be successful. You do need the willingness to work and the current generation of young folks a) don't know what hard work is and how rewarding it can be, b) are so soft from sitting in their houses all day long playing video games that the thought of actually doing something other than sitting on their asses is cruel and unusual punishment, or c) think they should be handed the presidency of the company just because or d) believe everthing should be just given to them (see c).

Representing the construction industry, I've seen time and time again a young workforce that habitually calls in sick, is late because the dog had to be taken to the vet, quit after a few days or ironically finds reasons to collect work comp. It's really frustrating. Especially when you have immigrants WANTING to work, and you can't get enough legal ones in the country to do the work that needs to be done.

I do admit boards of directors need to reign in the arrogance of corporate execs that think they are worth the millions they are paying themselves, even when earnings are down. Just like politicians, they do stupid things long enough, they think it is ok and nobody will notice or care. Second, the small minds of those protesting need an education on the importance of companies AND profit. They are not bad things.

Maybe there needs to be a place all those that can't (or aren't willing to) fend for themselves can go. Problem is, if no one is there to take care of them, what would they do?

[ebake02]

i think the "college degree" mindset is to blame. after manufacturing/industrial jobs went the way of the dodo, the last few generations of people have been told that the key to success is "going to college."

These clowns just can't seem to understand that you have to distinguish yourself. And more importantly, you have to have a marketable skill.

There's this one particular friend of mine, he's 42 years old, and he's talking about going back to college. He already has degrees, but he's unhappy with where he is professionally.

He was taught to believe that if you get a college degree that the world will cater to you, that everything just falls into place. He keeps seeing his co-workers get promotions while he stays at the same level, and so then he bitches about how he has these degrees and that he should be given promotions.

I've been trying to tell him for years that an ordinary college degree no-longer guarantees anything. that you need to get certified in a particular area of expertise.

No, you also need a Master's Degree in Favoritism Manipulation (also known as 'Ass-Kissing.') If the high mucky mucks of your company don't favor you, you don't go anywhere. It doesn't matter how many degrees you have or how hard you work. It took a change in store manager at my work before I FINALLY got out of my previous position and got something a little better. The guy was neck-deep in favorites.

Exactly, education doesn't matter anymore and neither does experience. The only way to get anywhere is this job market we live in today is to kiss the right ass, have friends in the right places or you need a super-star resume that knocks it out of the park.

[Rockindeano]

This OWS IS a great movement. It is a conversation changer, and it is admirable.

Man this Board tilts more right than the fuckin Titanic did when Kathy Bates decided to board a lifeboat on that particular side of the ship.

The right is going to have their collective asses kicked this year...Whitehouse-Obama keeps it. Senate- Increase in Dem power. House- Back to Dems. Governorships- recalling of GOP shitfucks Kasich and Walker. Awesome.

[slucero]

This OWS IS a great movement. It is a conversation changer, and it is admirable.

Man this Board tilts more right than the fuckin Titanic did when Kathy Bates decided to board a lifeboat on that particular side of the ship.

The right is going to have their collective asses kicked this year...Whitehouse-Obama keeps it. Senate- Increase in Dem power. House- Back to Dems. Governorships- recalling of GOP shitfucks Kasich and Walker. Awesome.

D-No you've just gone full-retard

[RossValoryRocks]

This OWS IS a great movement. It is a conversation changer, and it is admirable.

Man this Board tilts more right than the fuckin Titanic did when Kathy Bates decided to board a lifeboat on that particular side of the ship.

The right is going to have their collective asses kicked this year...Whitehouse-Obama keeps it. Senate- Increase in Dem power. House- Back to Dems. Governorships- recalling of GOP shitfucks Kasich and Walker. Awesome.

So rapes and assaults, not to mention the antisemetic rhetoric is admirable? I see. You really have dropped into full idiot mode.

[ebake02]

This OWS IS a great movement. It is a conversation changer, and it is admirable.

Man this Board tilts more right than the fuckin Titanic did when Kathy Bates decided to board a lifeboat on that particular side of the ship.

The right is going to have their collective asses kicked this year...Whitehouse-Obama keeps it. Senate- Increase in Dem power. House- Back to Dems. Governorships- recalling of GOP shitfucks Kasich and Walker. Awesome.

I support the reason for it but the wrong people are doing this. These lazy, jobless hippies are not going to get anything done. This movement needs everyday working Americans behind it to get anything done.

[conversationpc]

This OWS IS a great movement. It is a conversation changer, and it is admirable.

Man this Board tilts more right than the fuckin Titanic did when Kathy Bates decided to board a lifeboat on that particular side of the ship.

The right is going to have their collective asses kicked this year...Whitehouse-Obama keeps it. Senate- Increase in Dem power. House- Back to Dems. Governorships- recalling of GOP shitfucks Kasich and Walker. Awesome.

I support the reason for it but the wrong people are doing this. These lazy, jobless hippies are not going to get anything done. This movement needs everyday working Americans behind it to get anything done.

The problem is no one knows that the hell the reason for it is.

And what the flying crap is the deal with all the chanting and repeating everything one of their "leaders" says. Then there's the weird hand signals, the plethora of socialists, communists, anarchists, etc. It's like a freaking huge cult.

Check this out... http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colber ... n-location

[Ehwmatt]

True story I caught one of these cocksuckers at the downtown Cleveland OWS trying to break into my car while I was parked downtown on the street for a meeting. I calmly approached my passenger door and told him if he didn't get the fuck away from my car I'd be procuring my pistol from my glove compartment.

[G.I.Jim]

This OWS IS a great movement. It is a conversation changer, and it is admirable.

Man this Board tilts more right than the fuckin Titanic did when Kathy Bates decided to board a lifeboat on that particular side of the ship.

The right is going to have their collective asses kicked this year...Whitehouse-Obama keeps it. Senate- Increase in Dem power. House- Back to Dems. Governorships- recalling of GOP shitfucks Kasich and Walker. Awesome.

I support the reason for it but the wrong people are doing this. These lazy, jobless hippies are not going to get anything done. This movement needs everyday working Americans behind it to get anything done.

The problem is no one knows that the hell the reason for it is.

And what the flying crap is the deal with all the chanting and repeating everything one of their "leaders" says. Then there's the weird hand signals, the plethora of socialists, communists, anarchists, etc. It's like a freaking huge cult.

Check this out... http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colber ... n-location

That was hilarious! Lol!!

[Yoda]

i think the "college degree" mindset is to blame. after manufacturing/industrial jobs went the way of the dodo, the last few generations of people have been told that the key to success is "going to college."

The keys to success IS going to college, and/or getting a higher education of some sort. If you think you can gallop in to any professional company/agency and get a job with absolutely no education, you're in for a rude awakening buddy. HOWEVER, I say that with certain qualifiers. A college education is NOT a right. Repeating, a college education is NOT a right. It is a privilege. Nobody forced these people to take out student loans. Heck I'm saying this and I'm one of those people paying back a student loan myself. The mind set needs to be changed in this country from what can the government do for us, to what can I do for myself. I have taken a financial course that has taught me A LOT about managing money, investing, saving for college, etc.... I so WISHED I had taken this course years ago! It is literally changing my life! I'm still in the early stages of doing what I need to do to become more financially independent, but at least now I have learned what it takes! It takes hard work, time, effort, and being "grown up" in regards to spending money, but the most important aspect of it is its teaching me that I don't need the government providing for me, I can do all of that myself! Like I said, I WISHED I had taken this course earlier in my life, because I would probably be in a much, much better state of finances now, but at least I now have a good game plan and an idea of how to save, how to pay off this debt, how to save for retirement.....what's the difference between a 401K and a 403B, so forth and so on......(which it's still confusing to me, but I know a heck of alot more about it now than what I did before the class!)

If these people truly want help from their student loans and so forth, the best thing they can ever do for themselves to to learn to help themselves. If we all truly managed our money in all areas in which it needs to be managed, then none of us would ever, EVER need ANY government assistance.

[Ehwmatt]

i think the "college degree" mindset is to blame. after manufacturing/industrial jobs went the way of the dodo, the last few generations of people have been told that the key to success is "going to college."

The keys to success IS going to college, and/or getting a higher education of some sort. If you think you can gallop in to any professional company/agency and get a job with absolutely no education, you're in for a rude awakening buddy. HOWEVER, I say that with certain qualifiers. A college education is NOT a right. Repeating, a college education is NOT a right. It is a privilege. Nobody forced these people to take out student loans. Heck I'm saying this and I'm one of those people paying back a student loan myself. The mind set needs to be changed in this country from what can the government do for us, to what can I do for myself. I have taken a financial course that has taught me A LOT about managing money, investing, saving for college, etc.... I so WISHED I had taken this course years ago! It is literally changing my life! I'm still in the early stages of doing what I need to do to become more financially independent, but at least now I have learned what it takes! It takes hard work, time, effort, and being "grown up" in regards to spending money, but the most important aspect of it is its teaching me that I don't need the government providing for me, I can do all of that myself! Like I said, I WISHED I had taken this course earlier in my life, because I would probably be in a much, much better state of finances now, but at least I now have a good game plan and an idea of how to save, how to pay off this debt, how to save for retirement.....what's the difference between a 401K and a 403B, so forth and so on......(which it's still confusing to me, but I know a heck of alot more about it now than what I did before the class!)

If these people truly want help from their student loans and so forth, the best thing they can ever do for themselves to to learn to help themselves. If we all truly managed our money in all areas in which it needs to be managed, then none of us would ever, EVER need ANY government assistance.

Yeah, you probably need to go to college to make decent money in the regular walks of life if you're a young person today. For those limited jobs where college is not a premium or a requirement, unions and senior members (with seniority) are firmly entrenched in all the positions. But you missed my point: merely having a college degree in just ANYTHING is no longer sufficient. In a competitive economy like the one we live in, you need to have something marketable. Whether that means pursuing a graduate level degree or majoring in something instantly marketable (accounting, finance, the sciences, engineering), people don't understand that just going to college and dicking around with history/philosophy/political science/ etc. majors won't impress anybody in this day and age. You used to be able to get away with that to some extent. Not anymore.

For a lot of the college-educated or at college-aged OWSers, that's what they fail to see. Many of the people I know personally who sympathize with this shit are individuals who went to second and third-rate private schools (as opposed to going to a good, but way more affordable state school), took out a boat load of loans, and then proceeded to major in something idiotic that no post-2008 employer would be interested in. Tack on the fact that their grades and overall resumes were/are nothing to write home about, and of course they're gonna have a problem getting a job to pay back the loan for the useless degree.

[Yoda]

i think the "college degree" mindset is to blame. after manufacturing/industrial jobs went the way of the dodo, the last few generations of people have been told that the key to success is "going to college."

The keys to success IS going to college, and/or getting a higher education of some sort. If you think you can gallop in to any professional company/agency and get a job with absolutely no education, you're in for a rude awakening buddy. HOWEVER, I say that with certain qualifiers. A college education is NOT a right. Repeating, a college education is NOT a right. It is a privilege. Nobody forced these people to take out student loans. Heck I'm saying this and I'm one of those people paying back a student loan myself. The mind set needs to be changed in this country from what can the government do for us, to what can I do for myself. I have taken a financial course that has taught me A LOT about managing money, investing, saving for college, etc.... I so WISHED I had taken this course years ago! It is literally changing my life! I'm still in the early stages of doing what I need to do to become more financially independent, but at least now I have learned what it takes! It takes hard work, time, effort, and being "grown up" in regards to spending money, but the most important aspect of it is its teaching me that I don't need the government providing for me, I can do all of that myself! Like I said, I WISHED I had taken this course earlier in my life, because I would probably be in a much, much better state of finances now, but at least I now have a good game plan and an idea of how to save, how to pay off this debt, how to save for retirement.....what's the difference between a 401K and a 403B, so forth and so on......(which it's still confusing to me, but I know a heck of alot more about it now than what I did before the class!)

If these people truly want help from their student loans and so forth, the best thing they can ever do for themselves to to learn to help themselves. If we all truly managed our money in all areas in which it needs to be managed, then none of us would ever, EVER need ANY government assistance.

Yeah, you probably need to go to college to make decent money in the regular walks of life if you're a young person today. For those limited jobs where college is not a premium or a requirement, unions and senior members (with seniority) are firmly entrenched in all the positions. But you missed my point: merely having a college degree in just ANYTHING is no longer sufficient. In a competitive economy like the one we live in, you need to have something marketable. Whether that means pursuing a graduate level degree or majoring in something instantly marketable (accounting, finance, the sciences, engineering), people don't understand that just going to college and dicking around with history/philosophy/political science/ etc. majors won't impress anybody in this day and age. You used to be able to get away with that to some extent. Not anymore.

For a lot of the college-educated or at college-aged OWSers, that's what they fail to see. Many of the people I know personally who sympathize with this shit are individuals who went to second and third-rate private schools (as opposed to going to a good, but way more affordable state school), took out a boat load of loans, and then proceeded to major in something idiotic that no post-2008 employer would be interested in. Tack on the fact that their grades and overall resumes were/are nothing to write home about, and of course they're gonna have a problem getting a job to pay back the loan for the useless degree.

Oh, I agree with you 100% on that! Heck, even getting a degree in something worthwhile does not guarantee instant employment either. It is so freakin' competitive out there, that like you said, you really do need to have something marketable about yourself to get the job! Now, I don't care if it's a state or private college, but at least be able to afford it AND get educated in something you'll like to do, BUT at the same time, something that you can earn a living with.

[Rick]

Whether or not you care for the Occupiers and their mission, whatever that is (supposedly: "social and economic inequality, high unemployment, greed, as well as corruption, and the undue influence of corporations—particularly that of the financial services sector—on government"), in the current climate of the U.S., the apathy that is so rampant, the blood suckers that are living off the government (I know there are legitimate ones as well), it's good to see someone, anyone standing up for something.

[S2M]

Whether or not you care for the Occupiers and their mission, whatever that is (supposedly: "social and economic inequality, high unemployment, greed, as well as corruption, and the undue influence of corporations—particularly that of the financial services sector—on government"), in the current climate of the U.S., the apathy that is so rampant, the blood suckers that are living off the government (I know there are legitimate ones as well), it's good to see someone, anyone standing up for something.

I just find most people hypocrites. Especially Sean Hannity. He said the other day during his 'Great American Panel'... , that he was sick of people clamoring for money from the rich. I heard that and thought to myself, 'Well isn't that what Solyndra, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac were doing too? Asking for money from the 'rich'. Corporate America likes to live of the government as well...

[conversationpc]

Whether or not you care for the Occupiers and their mission, whatever that is (supposedly: "social and economic inequality, high unemployment, greed, as well as corruption, and the undue influence of corporations—particularly that of the financial services sector—on government"), in the current climate of the U.S., the apathy that is so rampant, the blood suckers that are living off the government (I know there are legitimate ones as well), it's good to see someone, anyone standing up for something.

I just find most people hypocrites. Especially Sean Hannity. He said the other day during his 'Great American Panel'... , that he was sick of people clamoring for money from the rich. I heard that and thought to myself, 'Well isn't that what Solyndra, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac were doing too? Asking for money from the 'rich'. Corporate America likes to live of the government as well...

I'm not a Hannity fan at all...However, in this instance, he's not a hypocrite. He's called out the issues about the companies you named above before. NO corporations should be getting government handouts. They ought to stand and fall on their own merits. It's better for the economy in the long run, in my opinion.

[Red13JoePa]

Frank you had a classic post on FB the other day about these occupy jackholes wanting their "stuff."

[hoagiepete]

Whether or not you care for the Occupiers and their mission, whatever that is (supposedly: "social and economic inequality, high unemployment, greed, as well as corruption, and the undue influence of corporations—particularly that of the financial services sector—on government"), in the current climate of the U.S., the apathy that is so rampant, the blood suckers that are living off the government (I know there are legitimate ones as well), it's good to see someone, anyone standing up for something.

But, what are they standing up for?

Not only that, they're mostly sitting or laying, not standing.