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Postby scarygirl » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:02 am

Not just let go, but FIRED..... I have only been fired once in my entire life. That was when I was a waitress. I didn't do anything horrible. :( I just, my job, deals with a lot of difficult customers.. I guess some of them complained about me, maybe a coworker. Probably both, based on what the DM said.. I wasn't even allowed to finish the day. Granted, this was never the ideal job for me in the first place, but I needed this job! I was hoping that I would become better at it. And I was, just not fast enough. I don't even know if I will qualify for unemployment being fired, vs laid off....

I was barely scraping by, looking forward to the bonus check at the end of the month. One that I desparately n

Why couldn'tr they give me two weeks to at least find something? How will I overcome being from my last job on job interviews? I should have kept looking after I got the job. Would have probably been better off staying on unemployment... At least my resume would still say laid off after 8 years vs fired after two months
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:21 am

First and foremost, sorry to hear about your situation.

So what type of job was this? Someone must have said something really compelling to make them get you out of wherever you work. If you're working at a financial institution or high tech company, they worry about you doing something to rebell against them so they tend to get you out of the workplace ASAP in those types of jobs. Other reasons would be if you physically assaulted someone, drugs, theft, those type of things.

Did you get a termination letter? If so, did they list the reason(s) for your termination? You can get a pretty good idea from what is written in the termination letter as to why they were motivated to have you removed on the spot. Sounds like something serious, unless your working in the food or retail industry, or the company has messed up policies.
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Postby scarygirl » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:31 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:First and foremost, sorry to hear about your situation.

So what type of job was this? Someone must have said something really compelling to make them get you out of wherever you work. If you're working at a financial institution or high tech company, they worry about you doing something to rebell against them so they tend to get you out of the workplace ASAP in those type of jobs.


It was because they said I wasn't comfortable enough dealing with the customers. My job was in collections for a RENT TO OWEN type business. I have had a couple of calls where the client would yell and scream over having to pay their bill. I had a hard time managing them. There were a couple times when I came close to tears. Once i broke down in front of the DM. And that was the beginning of the end. I guess. Probably someone overheard me having a hard time managing teh calls, and they complained to the DM.

I get anxious with people. I am not a bad person.. I am just human.
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Postby scarygirl » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:49 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:First and foremost, sorry to hear about your situation.

So what type of job was this? Someone must have said something really compelling to make them get you out of wherever you work. If you're working at a financial institution or high tech company, they worry about you doing something to rebell against them so they tend to get you out of the workplace ASAP in those types of jobs. Other reasons would be if you physically assaulted someone, drugs, theft, those type of things.

Did you get a termination letter? If so, did they list the reason(s) for your termination? You can get a pretty good idea from what is written in the termination letter as to why they were motivated to have you removed on the spot. Sounds like something serious, unless your working in the food or retail industry, or the company has messed up policies.


No termination letter. She told me she had a number of texts from unknown sources about yesterday. Yesterday, I was by myself. We have a high call volume the first three days after the payment due date. I had one particularly horrid call. I don't know if my talking about it prompted the texts or what. I get nervous with people, but I need the job. I work hard. I worked my butt off yesterday. All in all, it wasn't a bad day. It really wasn't.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:50 am

With that said, there are many factors as to exactly why they termed you. Now they didn't even give you two weeks of separation pay which is basic boilerplate protocol when letting employees go for reasons other than serious offenses. Make sure your termination letter doesn't list reasons such as "insubordination".
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Postby tater1977 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:55 am

If you live in a rght to work state...they don't need a reason to fire you?
If they fight you for U/C..fight back for it though..
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Postby scarygirl » Sat Jan 05, 2013 8:59 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:With that said, there are many factors as to exactly why they termed you. Now they didn't even give you two weeks of separation pay which is basic boilerplate protocol when letting employees go for reasons other than serious offenses. Make sure your termination letter doesn't list reasons such as "insubordination".


I didn't do anything serious. I don't lie. I don't cheat. I don't steal. I was there a month and a half. It was a collections job that was hell on earth. I basically took it because I didnt want to be on unemployment for months on end. I worked hard, and tried to make the most of it despite of any difficulties I was having with the task at hand. The job was a bad fit, but I needed to work.
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Postby brandonx76 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:41 am

scarygirl wrote:
The Sushi Hunter wrote:With that said, there are many factors as to exactly why they termed you. Now they didn't even give you two weeks of separation pay which is basic boilerplate protocol when letting employees go for reasons other than serious offenses. Make sure your termination letter doesn't list reasons such as "insubordination".


I didn't do anything serious. I don't lie. I don't cheat. I don't steal. I was there a month and a half. It was a collections job that was hell on earth. I basically took it because I didnt want to be on unemployment for months on end. I worked hard, and tried to make the most of it despite of any difficulties I was having with the task at hand. The job was a bad fit, but I needed to work.


Sorry to hear about the bad experience...pretty much anything can happen within 3 to 6 months of being hired, so keep that in mind in the future. Sounds like you were being evaluated under some type of introductory evaluation and it was a bad fit. Definitely stinks when you need the job, but with the breakdowns you mentioned having, it does not sound like a healthy environment for you anyway. Don't give up, a better fit is out there if you seek it and expect it.
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Postby tater1977 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:51 am

Had a friend ..who got hired by a collections agency once...She didn't last the 12 hour shift...
was a bad fit...she was a hard worker but didn't have the nastiness they wanted..
Plus I think they had a quota or someting for each shift.....
It sucks losing a job esp nowadays...Hope you find something soon you want to do
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Postby scarygirl » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:24 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:First and foremost, sorry to hear about your situation.

So what type of job was this? Someone must have said something really compelling to make them get you out of wherever you work. If you're working at a financial institution or high tech company, they worry about you doing something to rebell against them so they tend to get you out of the workplace ASAP in those types of jobs. Other reasons would be if you physically assaulted someone, drugs, theft, those type of things.

Did you get a termination letter? If so, did they list the reason(s) for your termination? You can get a pretty good idea from what is written in the termination letter as to why they were motivated to have you removed on the spot. Sounds like something serious, unless your working in the food or retail industry, or the company has messed up policies.


If you want to talk messed up polices. Okay, after one day late I have to call the customer on their home phone and cell twice a day. Twice in the morning, twice in teh evening. At three days late, I call their cell, home, same as listed before, then their job. FROM five days out I have to call I have to call their home, cell, work, and theirv references (meaning their relatives, friends etc). Whomever they listed on their contract... The longer they are late, the more the call volume exculates.

That right there will yield you some difficult to manage people. As I said, I work hard. I was not a good fit. Would have been nice to have been allowed to finish the day with a litttle grace... As opposed to being forced to walk out in the middle of the day with everyone knowing what is going on.
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Postby scarygirl » Sat Jan 05, 2013 10:27 am

tater1977 wrote:Had a friend ..who got hired by a collections agency once...She didn't last the 12 hour shift...
was a bad fit...she was a hard worker but didn't have the nastiness they wanted..
Plus I think they had a quota or someting for each shift.....
It sucks losing a job esp nowadays...Hope you find something soon you want to do
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Postby Marabelle » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:16 am

Sorry to hear your bad news Scary. But as you said, it was not a good fit. Find something else to do. You will. I know you will.
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:51 am

Sorry to hear about your work woes. :cry: I hope you find something else that's better suited to your personality very soon. You're a very kind person, and someone will appreciate that somewhere. Rent to own places are worse than a damn used car lot. I think the whole business is shady as hell. Losing that job is probably the best thing that could have happened in the long run. Keep your chin up! :wink:
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Postby Rick » Sat Jan 05, 2013 11:52 am

I think it was, and I'm being serious, you were too nice of a person for that job. It takes someone who can get in someone's ass about paying their bills, and I don't see you being like that.
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Postby steveo777 » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:25 pm

Maybe you weren't the right type of person for that kind of a job. That should be your argument when applying for unemployment. This is no fault of your own and if you explain it properly, you will probably be granted your UC. You also have a good argument for requesting time to retrain for something more suitable for your personality and aptitude.

It's not like you were busted for bad conduct or theft. Just think it though and make your case. It could take some time to find another job. Maybe you ought not include that job on your resume'....just saying. Usually RTO companies are run by heartless scumbags who prey on people who can't buy elsewhere. Kind of like predatory lenders and credit card companies that charge outrageous rates. I could never be comfortable in my skin working for a company like that.

Sorry this happened to you and I wish you well! Remember, just maybe they did you a favor. You seem like a good person. :D

Something good will come of this. Have faith!
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Postby Journey Mom » Sat Jan 05, 2013 1:32 pm

Just a heads up - it's against the law to call people at their work for a collections issue. If they try telling you that's one of the reasons they let you go, let them have it with both barrels. I'm sorry you got fired, but it really sounds like you'll be better off not working there.
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Postby scarygirl » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:26 am

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RTO is a license to steal, my Dad owed a RTO store in a small town and after a few years he couldn't in good conscience keep it open. He made a killing renting and re-renting VCR's and TV's that people would rent for hundreds of dollars over their costs, and then they would get behind and Dad would get the TV back and rent it again to someone else. He used to tell me he couldn't believe the Government let him get away with that kind of shit. As I said, he gave it up due his conscience and stuck to selling the shit instead. I would hazzard a guess that you were working for sharks and the real reason they let you go was for lack of collections not harassing customers, because harassing customers is what they do for a living. Follow the money.


I actually dropped 6.5 percent credit (alone) the day before I was let go. Believe me, that is not an easy thing to do.... As far as harrassing, yes I was paid to harrass people and the process made me sick. I was actually getting slowly used to it though, as sick as it may seem. I always did my best to be kind to people. I would have custoimer call and yell and curse me out before I could even say hello.

One of teh last straws was a customer who called me to make her payment, she wanted to pay $50, but I had to push her to pay $96 or we would take the furniture. We went round and round about it. She hung up on me several times, and I had to call back..... Finally, after I had been berated, called stupid, every name basically, she agreed to pay the $96 dollars. Only the card number and sec code did not match. This prompted me to ahve to back out of the system and start again. The second time, I made sure to read out every number before filing the payment. It still did not go through. This prompted her to be even more upset... She then hung up on me again, saying she would have to check the card nunber,,, click mid sentence... So I wait a few minutes, and she answers didn't I tell you not to call me back? I will call you. I told her I did not hear her say that as the phone went dead. So this time everything went through....Only I forgit to change the pay dates... charging her for a full mth instead of the $96 to get her current. I hit the cancel button , but still too late. I told her I needed to out her on hold. I then refunded the money. I then told her what happpened, that I refunded the money as soon as I noticed the erro, and foir her to check her bank statements. In the meantinme, I was still obligated by my manager to get the $96 payment. I again apologized, and asked if i could please runthe $96, to which she said yes. SHe then hung up on me.... Many hours later she calls back she calls me irate that the money had not yet hit the acct, and accused me of running the full payment on purpose. That I knew what i WAS doing. Where again, I tried to apologize to her. She tehn said you need to get your head t ogether, you don't act right. Everytime, I call you don't your head in the game. I am going to have your job.... She tehn proceeded to get mhy DISTRICT manager's name. I am sure between that honest mistake and her off the cuff comments about my supposed mental state probably got me fired.

Granted, I made a mistake running her card over, but it was not on purpose. A dishonest person wouldn't have said ANYTHING.... I understand why she got even more upset. Money is so scarce now adays.... I know I would be in a huge panic if that happened to me.

I am not perfect. I had trouble with some technical aspects of the job which between that and constant harrasment by a few select customer fed into my anxiety, and made my technical performance worse than it normally would have been. I had most of the procedures down pat. There were still some things I needed to work on. I always tried to be careful how I said things because I would otherwise be accused being rude. I am not a rude person. I did feel pressure to make our credit goals everyday, so I think my stress and anxiety over that fed into how I related to customers.... I also had to ask them exactly why they were late, when they got paid (so i could make payment committments), stuff that is in many ways very intrusive....

Most of them just wanted to pay their bill, and I had to give the spanish inquisition. The few that made sure to get me fired, didn't want to pay their bills. Had no interest in paying their bills, adn otherwise just felt a little bit entitled....

And if that last line sounds judgemental, I don't mean to be. I try hard to treat everyone with respect even if I think they are personally less than savory. And yes, RTO is a rip off. On the other hand, I always made sure to explain the terms, and show them how much overage they would pay out if they went teh full term. I made no bones about what they were signing, and encouraged people to pay off early...
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Postby Everett » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:28 am

Very sorry to hear this happened to you. But there are more terrible jobs out
there. Think walmart. Employees are great management are pricks well most of them. A
couple were good though.
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Postby pinkfloyd1973 » Sun Jan 06, 2013 5:15 am

Everett wrote:Very sorry to hear this happened to you. But there are more terrible jobs out
there. Think walmart. Employees are great management are pricks well most of them. A
couple were good though.




Retail is one of the worst jobs to have.....You're constantly dumped on, jumped on, yelled at, AND you have to clean up after everyone else because there is absolutely ZERO accountability. Unfortunately I have to work there until I finish school, and I am glad to have a job even though it sucks majorly. Sorry to hear what happened to you though, hopefully you can find another job soon that treats you a little better :?
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Postby scarygirl » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:20 am

The lord just blessed me!!!! :shock:

I opened my mailbox and there was a $1600 check for me. An overpayment from a medical bill in 2009, car accident. It is LEGIT...I am assuming maybe my old insurance carrier overpaid.... Health insurance, car insurance????

Maybe I should go out and play the lottery? I started to today... :wink:
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Postby G.I.Jim » Sun Jan 06, 2013 6:49 am

scarygirl wrote:The lord just blessed me!!!! :shock:

I opened my mailbox and there was a $1600 check for me. An overpayment from a medical bill in 2009, car accident. It is LEGIT...I am assuming maybe my old insurance carrier overpaid.... Health insurance, car insurance????

Maybe I should go out and play the lottery? I started to today... :wink:


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Postby scarygirl » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:09 am

G.I.Jim wrote:
scarygirl wrote:The lord just blessed me!!!! :shock:

I opened my mailbox and there was a $1600 check for me. An overpayment from a medical bill in 2009, car accident. It is LEGIT...I am assuming maybe my old insurance carrier overpaid.... Health insurance, car insurance????

Maybe I should go out and play the lottery? I started to today... :wink:


The lord works in mysterious ways. :D


Yeah, he does because one of the other reasons I was upset asides from being FIRED, was I was due for a bonus check at of JAN, $700 before taxes. This checks blows that right out of teh water.,,
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Postby Everett » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:20 am

scarygirl wrote:The lord just blessed me!!!! :shock:

I opened my mailbox and there was a $1600 check for me. An overpayment from a medical bill in 2009, car accident. It is LEGIT...I am assuming maybe my old insurance carrier overpaid.... Health insurance, car insurance????

Maybe I should go out and play the lottery? I started to today... :wink:


Don't spend it all in one place 8)
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Postby scarygirl » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:28 am

Everett wrote:
scarygirl wrote:The lord just blessed me!!!! :shock:

I opened my mailbox and there was a $1600 check for me. An overpayment from a medical bill in 2009, car accident. It is LEGIT...I am assuming maybe my old insurance carrier overpaid.... Health insurance, car insurance????

Maybe I should go out and play the lottery? I started to today... :wink:


Don't spend it all in one place 8)


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Postby Babyblue » Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:51 am

scarygirl wrote:The lord just blessed me!!!! :shock:

I opened my mailbox and there was a $1600 check for me. An overpayment from a medical bill in 2009, car accident. It is LEGIT...I am assuming maybe my old insurance carrier overpaid.... Health insurance, car insurance????

Maybe I should go out and play the lottery? I started to today... :wink:



You never know what he has for you Scary. I am really sorry about your job.I will be praying you find another one soon.
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Postby DrFU » Sun Jan 06, 2013 12:10 pm

If you we're only there a short time, just leave it off your résumé. You can say you've been looking for work since the job before that one. Technically true and in this economy totally believable.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:15 pm

You mention that the job was a bad fit. Maybe that is why they fired you because it wasn't a good fit and they realized it. Maybe you were on probation, which usually the first few months of employement would be considered being probation period, which would explain why they just fired you and perhaps why they didn't give you two weeks pay as sort of a "thank you for your time and effort but unfortunatly it's not working out". Not sure a month and a half will entitle you to unemployment or not. I think in my area at least, you have to work for at least one quarter of the year (3 months) before you qualifiy for unemployment.

Yeah, it's a bummer when working in a state that has the right to fire whoever they want without any reason(s). That opens the doors for employers to fire at will or to coinside with a hidden agenda. I think that's total bullshit of a way of employing people if you ask me.

And since you don't have a termination letter, I guess you won't have to worry about something bad on your employment record. Did you at least ask them if they would be fair and give you a good reference? But yeah that would depend on the reasons they terminated you. If you had a termination letter, the two buzz words future employers look at is if you were terminated for "insubordination" and/or bad conduct. Many many things that you could do wrong to get fired fall under those two words and basically if you were guilty of any of those, they would have put that in a termination letter. Nearly 20 years ago, I worked in HR of a very large world wide company and remember many terminations and documents dealing with such.

Reading your description of daily call schedule, it sounds like you worked for one of those collection agencies who are going full bore on deadbeats. As I said in another thread, I worked near our collections department a number of years ago. Everyday those guys were on the phone tearing someone a new ass. And that was just over house, car, property loans. Our company wasn't a collections agency or anything. Our primary purpose was financial institution. So yeah, in order to do that type of thing, you have to be a hard person. And as someone mentioned earlier, you probably had a quota you had to meet. The guys in the collections department near where my office was, they had a quota they had to meet on a daily/weekly/monthly basis also. I always would hear them talking about it between them.

Again, sorry to hear about your situation and hope that you get another job. Just keep in mind that one door closes, other doors open.
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Postby scarygirl » Sun Jan 06, 2013 1:26 pm

The Sushi Hunter wrote:You mention that the job was a bad fit. Maybe that is why they fired you because it wasn't a good fit and they realized it. Maybe you were on probation, which usually the first few months of employement would be considered being probation period, which would explain why they just fired you and perhaps why they didn't give you two weeks pay as sort of a "thank you for your time and effort but unfortunatly it's not working out". Not sure a month and a half will entitle you to unemployment or not. I think in my area at least, you have to work for at least one quarter of the year (3 months) before you qualifiy for unemployment.

Yeah, it's a bummer when working in a state that has the right to fire whoever they want without any reason(s). That opens the doors for employers to fire at will or to coinside with a hidden agenda. I think that's total bullshit of a way of employing people if you ask me.

And since you don't have a termination letter, I guess you won't have to worry about something bad on your employment record. Did you at least ask them if they would be fair and give you a good reference? But yeah that would depend on the reasons they terminated you. If you had a termination letter, the two buzz words future employers look at is if you were terminated for "insubordination" and/or bad conduct. Many many things that you could do wrong to get fired fall under those two words and basically if you were guilty of any of those, they would have put that in a termination letter. Nearly 20 years ago, I worked in HR of a very large world wide company and remember many terminations and documents dealing with such.

Again, sorry to hear about your situation and hope that you get another job. Just keep in mind that one door closes, other doors open.


I have asked for a termination letter. I don't want them saying I just left my job. I was employed before that, so I don't know why I wouldn't qualify for unemployment.
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Re: I Was Fired

Postby yulog » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:35 pm

scarygirl wrote:Not just let go, but FIRED..... I have only been fired once in my entire life. That was when I was a waitress. I didn't do anything horrible. :( I just, my job, deals with a lot of difficult customers.. I guess some of them complained about me, maybe a coworker. Probably both, based on what the DM said.. I wasn't even allowed to finish the day. Granted, this was never the ideal job for me in the first place, but I needed this job! I was hoping that I would become better at it. And I was, just not fast enough. I don't even know if I will qualify for unemployment being fired, vs laid off....

I was barely scraping by, looking forward to the bonus check at the end of the month. One that I desparately n

Why couldn'tr they give me two weeks to at least find something? How will I overcome being from my last job on job interviews? I should have kept looking after I got the job. Would have probably been better off staying on unemployment... At least my resume would still say laid off after 8 years vs fired after two months


Is this the same place that was giving you a hard time for taking some time off last yr?
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Postby TotoStu » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:22 am

Sorry you got fired. I've been there... it sucks. You'll bounce back I'm sure! :)
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