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Postby Voyager » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:58 am

treetopovskaya wrote:
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Voyager wrote:I just find it extremely hilarious to see right-wingers stating that Obama has failed as President because he didn't get the Olympic Committee to choose Chicago over Rio. That is the best joke I've heard in weeks! I mean, condemn the guy for a real offense such as starting a war based on bogus reasons or for failing to get help to hurricane victims - but if you're going to bash Obama on a regular basis for petty stuff like this, you will lose all credibility. It's obvious that many right-wingers are on the Obama witch hunt and are desperately looking for reasons to condemn him so you can get back at Dems for condemning your ignorant maverick cowboy. But let's use a little common sense for a change. Not getting the Olympics here is not a failure, but sending hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis to their death for no good reason is.

:lol:


Fuck the Olympics. As far as Obama is concerned, I'd simply prefer a politician who knows he's a scumbag, takes his under the table money, but still allows me to make the vast majority of choices that affect my every day life. But I guess some need to throw in old & tired diversionary tactics like speaking about W's past failures than deal with what's going on in the present day. :roll:


exactly... when is obama going to stand on his own?

people aren't upset because he lost us the olympics... people are upset that he went there to begin with. how much money did that cost?


People are just upset that he's black and he's a Democrat... they really don't give a fuck about him trying to get the Olympics here. That is just a smokescreen for their hatred.

:roll:


did janeane garofalo just hack into your system?


No, I think it was Chris Rock.

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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:04 am

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treetopovskaya wrote:
Voyager wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Uno_up wrote:
Voyager wrote:I just find it extremely hilarious to see right-wingers stating that Obama has failed as President because he didn't get the Olympic Committee to choose Chicago over Rio. That is the best joke I've heard in weeks! I mean, condemn the guy for a real offense such as starting a war based on bogus reasons or for failing to get help to hurricane victims - but if you're going to bash Obama on a regular basis for petty stuff like this, you will lose all credibility. It's obvious that many right-wingers are on the Obama witch hunt and are desperately looking for reasons to condemn him so you can get back at Dems for condemning your ignorant maverick cowboy. But let's use a little common sense for a change. Not getting the Olympics here is not a failure, but sending hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis to their death for no good reason is.

:lol:


Fuck the Olympics. As far as Obama is concerned, I'd simply prefer a politician who knows he's a scumbag, takes his under the table money, but still allows me to make the vast majority of choices that affect my every day life. But I guess some need to throw in old & tired diversionary tactics like speaking about W's past failures than deal with what's going on in the present day. :roll:


exactly... when is obama going to stand on his own?

people aren't upset because he lost us the olympics... people are upset that he went there to begin with. how much money did that cost?


People are just upset that he's black and he's a Democrat... they really don't give a fuck about him trying to get the Olympics here. That is just a smokescreen for their hatred.

:roll:


did janeane garofalo just hack into your system?


No, I think it was Chris Rock.

:lol:


you do realize that was a pretty stupid comment to make tho right? i'm sure some people in all parties have a prob with obama's race but to lump a whole group together like that is just not right. people throw the race card to get people off the subject & now they have to defend themselves.

i have never said or implied that i hate obama. i can disagree with him... that doesn't mean i hate him.
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Postby Voyager » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:13 am

treetopovskaya wrote:you do realize that was a pretty stupid comment to make tho right?


That's exactly what I was thinking when you first made it, but I didn't bother saying anything because it doesn't do any good - you'll just make another stupid comment.

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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Oct 04, 2009 5:26 am

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treetopovskaya wrote:you do realize that was a pretty stupid comment to make tho right?


That's exactly what I was thinking when you first made it, but I didn't bother saying anything because it doesn't do any good - you'll just make another stupid comment.

:lol: :lol:


i was referring to this comment you made as being stupid...

"People are just upset that he's black and he's a Democrat... they really don't give a fuck about him trying to get the Olympics here. That is just a smokescreen for their hatred"
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Postby Voyager » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:33 am

CNN wrote:(CNN) -- Whenever President Obama has traveled overseas and offered pointed and direct assessments of the United States, some of them critical, Republicans have ripped him for criticizing America, saying a president should always defend the United States.

So I want to hear the explanation by these so-called patriots of their giddy behavior over the United States losing the 2016 Olympic Games.

Yes, the United States. The bid that was rejected Friday by the International Olympic Committee was not a Chicago, Illinois, bid. It was the official bid submitted by the United States Olympic Committee and was representative of the nation. Tokyo's bid was that of Japan; Madrid's was that of Spain; and Rio de Janeiro's was that of Brazil.

Republicans want to spin the decision as a massive loss by President Obama and the Democrats who have always controlled Chicago politics.

"Hahahahaha," wrote Erick Erickson on the conservative "RedState" blog, "I thought the world would love us more now that Bush was gone."

What the critics don't see is that Obama's loss on the Olympics is America's loss. Any red-blooded American who loves to see the American flag raised and the national anthem played when one of our own wins a gold medal should blast the Republicans' giddiness over the loss.

I can recall crying along with millions of Americans when our hockey team beat the Russians and won the hockey gold in 1980. Where were those games? Lake Placid, New York. Euphoria spread all across the nation, not only because we beat the mighty Russians, but also because it took place on American soil.

When Carl Lewis and Mary Lou Retton dominated the 1984 Olympic Games, we all beamed with pride because they represented the United States on American soil in Los Angeles, California.

And when Michael Johnson stormed around the track to obliterate the world record in the 200-meter dash (since broken by Jamaica's Usain Bolt), we relished the win as he took a victory lap around the stadium in Atlanta, Georgia.

Americans love home field advantage, and we always desire to show the rest of the world what we are made of.

I don't care if Republicans want to rip President Obama over going to Copenhagen, Denmark, to pitch for the games. This isn't about politics. It's not about ideology. This is about America. OUR pride. Our chance to shine. Our loss of the games.

So, to all the critics happy about us losing the 2016 games, turn in your flag lapel pins and stop boasting of being so patriotic. When an American city loses, like New York did in the the last go-round, we all lose. And all you critics are on the same level as the America haters all across the world.

You should be shouted down for not backing your own country. The next time any of you bang out a press release about "Buy American" or "Support our troops," remember this moment when your cynical, callous and small-minded brains happily rejoiced when America lost the 2016 Olympic Games.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:36 am

Logistically speaking, IMO Chicago would be a nightmare of a place to have the Olympics. People traveling into the US would have a bitching time getting there. Besides, shouldn't the President have bigger and more important things to worry about besides the fucking olympics? I myself didn't vote for him, but when he won and went into office, I support him and hope that he'd be able to turn this country around. He needs to say "fuck the olympic there are more important things to worry about like the economy, the war in the Middle East and the issues with future nuclear weapons in Iran. I'll be dissatisfied with the President if he starts focusing in more on where the stupid olympics will be held. They can hold them in the center of Iraq as far as I'm concerned!
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Postby Voyager » Sun Oct 04, 2009 6:53 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:Logistically speaking, IMO Chicago would be a nightmare of a place to have the Olympics. People traveling into the US would have a bitching time getting there.


No doubt! I live three hours from Chicago, and can't stand driving there because the traffic is horrendous even when there are no big events... it's always backed up on the highways for miles and miles whenever I go there. If you added the Olympics to that already congested traffic, it would be a nightmare for sure.

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Postby gr8dane » Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:31 am

treetopovskaya wrote:
Uno_up wrote:
Voyager wrote:I just find it extremely hilarious to see right-wingers stating that Obama has failed as President because he didn't get the Olympic Committee to choose Chicago over Rio. That is the best joke I've heard in weeks! I mean, condemn the guy for a real offense such as starting a war based on bogus reasons or for failing to get help to hurricane victims - but if you're going to bash Obama on a regular basis for petty stuff like this, you will lose all credibility. It's obvious that many right-wingers are on the Obama witch hunt and are desperately looking for reasons to condemn him so you can get back at Dems for condemning your ignorant maverick cowboy. But let's use a little common sense for a change. Not getting the Olympics here is not a failure, but sending hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis to their death for no good reason is.

:lol:


Fuck the Olympics. As far as Obama is concerned, I'd simply prefer a politician who knows he's a scumbag, takes his under the table money, but still allows me to make the vast majority of choices that affect my every day life. But I guess some need to throw in old & tired diversionary tactics like speaking about W's past failures than deal with what's going on in the present day. :roll:


exactly... when is obama going to stand on his own?

people aren't upset because he lost us the olympics... people are upset that he went there to begin with. how much money did that cost?


Almost as much as starting a war.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:39 am

it's obvious some will continue to play the race card & bush card.

*rolls eyes*
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Postby Voyager » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:40 am

gr8dane wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:
Uno_up wrote:
Voyager wrote:I just find it extremely hilarious to see right-wingers stating that Obama has failed as President because he didn't get the Olympic Committee to choose Chicago over Rio. That is the best joke I've heard in weeks! I mean, condemn the guy for a real offense such as starting a war based on bogus reasons or for failing to get help to hurricane victims - but if you're going to bash Obama on a regular basis for petty stuff like this, you will lose all credibility. It's obvious that many right-wingers are on the Obama witch hunt and are desperately looking for reasons to condemn him so you can get back at Dems for condemning your ignorant maverick cowboy. But let's use a little common sense for a change. Not getting the Olympics here is not a failure, but sending hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis to their death for no good reason is.

:lol:


Fuck the Olympics. As far as Obama is concerned, I'd simply prefer a politician who knows he's a scumbag, takes his under the table money, but still allows me to make the vast majority of choices that affect my every day life. But I guess some need to throw in old & tired diversionary tactics like speaking about W's past failures than deal with what's going on in the present day. :roll:


exactly... when is obama going to stand on his own?

people aren't upset because he lost us the olympics... people are upset that he went there to begin with. how much money did that cost?


Almost as much as starting a war.


$500-billion? Okay, sure.

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Postby Rockindeano » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:43 am

treetopovskaya wrote:it's obvious some will continue to play the race card & bush card.

*rolls eyes*


You Cons are the ones playing the race card. Limbaugh cannot stand the fact that Obama is black.

Your actions (Cons), yesterday was pathetic. I would be embarrassed to be a republican after yesterday.
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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:13 am

Behshad wrote:
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Tito wrote:I hope Chicago doesn't get it either. For the reasons described above.


Well as usual youre wrong! :lol:
The amount of business the visitors would bring to the city would really help Chicago out A LOT...
Try to think like Frigga&Fro ;) I dont think a $200.000.000 profit would hurt the city , do you !?:)


They'll lose money. Maybe a few insiders will make money but the everyone else will get screwed.


how do you figure??? ,,, even if Daly tries to scam bunch of money to himself and his buddies, all the local shops, restaurants etc will see a remendous increase of business, when they most need it.... You dont seem to understand how European and Japanese in general love to spend money at events like this.... specially when things seem so much cheaper to them here than their own country.... Salt Lake city is a perfect example of how much the whole city benefited from this... they turned a 4 lane highway around the city into a 6 and some parts 8 lane, all the costs were covered from the money the tourists brought in..... and add to that the whole team and fight for your nation spirit, you have the formula for one successful even where its a win win situation for everyone, aside from those whose team sucks ass at the sports 8)


What 4 lane highway are you talking about that runs through SLC, I-80? I've been driving through that city via I-80 every few years and since 1991 I-80 has never been finished. Even to this fucking day it's a fucking mess to drive through SLC on I-80 because of the unfinished road work there. I was just there last month and as usual it was a cluster fucking mess. I met a pilot recently who grew up there and the first thing I mentioned to him as we got to talking was "Oh, since 1991 every time I drive though there on I-80 it's never been done to this day." He laughed and said he's aware of it, something about all the locals also talk about it being the road with no work end.

Beautiful city though, I love the sun set in the great salt lake. Looks unreal.
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Postby Voyager » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:17 am

Rockindeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:it's obvious some will continue to play the race card & bush card.

*rolls eyes*


You Cons are the ones playing the race card. Limbaugh cannot stand the fact that Obama is black.

Your actions (Cons), yesterday was pathetic. I would be embarrassed to be a republican after yesterday.


I was talking to an old classmate who is a right-winger at WalMart before Obama was elected, and I asked him who he was voting for. Guess what he said? His reply was, "I don't care who gets elected as long as it's not a ni**er."

That attitude is alive and flourishing.

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Postby The Sushi Hunter » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:31 am

Voyager wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:it's obvious some will continue to play the race card & bush card.

*rolls eyes*


You Cons are the ones playing the race card. Limbaugh cannot stand the fact that Obama is black.

Your actions (Cons), yesterday was pathetic. I would be embarrassed to be a republican after yesterday.


I was talking to an old classmate who is a right-winger at WalMart before Obama was elected, and I asked him who he was voting for. Guess what he said? His reply was, "I don't care who gets elected as long as it's not a ni**er."

That attitude is alive and flourishing.

:?


I'm pretty sure it's not only right-wingers (as you say) that feel the way your old classmate feels. What's a right-winger anyway?
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Postby Voyager » Sun Oct 04, 2009 10:52 am

The Sushi Hunter wrote:
Voyager wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:it's obvious some will continue to play the race card & bush card.

*rolls eyes*


You Cons are the ones playing the race card. Limbaugh cannot stand the fact that Obama is black.

Your actions (Cons), yesterday was pathetic. I would be embarrassed to be a republican after yesterday.


I was talking to an old classmate who is a right-winger at WalMart before Obama was elected, and I asked him who he was voting for. Guess what he said? His reply was, "I don't care who gets elected as long as it's not a ni**er."

That attitude is alive and flourishing.

:?


I'm pretty sure it's not only right-wingers (as you say) that feel the way your old classmate feels. What's a right-winger anyway?


Noun 1. right-winger - a member of a right wing political party


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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:22 pm

Voyager wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:it's obvious some will continue to play the race card & bush card.

*rolls eyes*


You Cons are the ones playing the race card. Limbaugh cannot stand the fact that Obama is black.

Your actions (Cons), yesterday was pathetic. I would be embarrassed to be a republican after yesterday.


I was talking to an old classmate who is a right-winger at WalMart before Obama was elected, and I asked him who he was voting for. Guess what he said? His reply was, "I don't care who gets elected as long as it's not a ni**er."

That attitude is alive and flourishing.

:?


i'm sure it is & that's sad. still tho... you can't lump everyone together because of a few (or many) dumb-asses.

did you set him straight? i would have.

hey... maybe it's just you men who are racist. };C) (that was sarcasm)
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:31 pm

someone answer this question...

does being a republican = racist?
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Postby Lula » Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:56 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:someone answer this question...

does being a republican = racist?


no.

and i was not speaking of the celebrations in rio, i was speaking about our own citizens on american soil clapping and displaying great pleasure at the announcement about the olympics.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:51 pm

Lula wrote:
treetopovskaya wrote:someone answer this question...

does being a republican = racist?


no.

and i was not speaking of the celebrations in rio, i was speaking about our own citizens on american soil clapping and displaying great pleasure at the announcement about the olympics.


i was being sarcastic.

i haven't seen any footage. just the people in rio.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Oct 04, 2009 1:54 pm

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Lula wrote:the hatred for our president is so over the top and feeds into everything it seems.

What conservatives can't stand is the fact that the Bamsters top general in Afghanistan asked for more troops because they're getting their asses handed to them. The Bamster say's they have to look at the strategy, proceeds to blow him off to fly off with Oprah to try to get the Olympics! He was elected to be commander in chief....and now acts like he can't be bothered to do the job....That's what we don't like!


i believe the real story is that the president needs to review the report and discuss it with the military brass. i'm pretty sure he is thoughtful enough to consider the dangers involved for our enlisted and thinks twice before sending them into harm's way. but why would i expect anything other than spin from the so-called conservatives lead around by their noses with rush and beck calling the shots.

Meanwhile, since the General asked for more troops. 48 more of our men and women have been killed. Take your time considering how to deal with your "loony left" Bamster. KIA isn't important.. you just continue to worry about CYA!!! :roll:
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Postby Lula » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:11 pm

RedWingFan wrote:Meanwhile, since the General asked for more troops. 48 more of our men and women have been killed. Take your time considering how to deal with your "loony left" Bamster. KIA isn't important.. you just continue to worry about CYA!!! :roll:


i won't pretend to know what is best. i do know that the invasion and subsequent occupation of iraq diverted resources from a war that should have been handled as a priority along with the capture of bin laden. the death toll has risen consistently in afghanistan and the pulse of the country is weakening in support of this terribly long and seemingly ineffective war. to expect the president to simply sign off on a request for more troops without serious thought and consideration is absurd.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:22 pm

Lula wrote:
RedWingFan wrote:Meanwhile, since the General asked for more troops. 48 more of our men and women have been killed. Take your time considering how to deal with your "loony left" Bamster. KIA isn't important.. you just continue to worry about CYA!!! :roll:


i won't pretend to know what is best. i do know that the invasion and subsequent occupation of iraq diverted resources from a war that should have been handled as a priority along with the capture of bin laden. the death toll has risen consistently in afghanistan and the pulse of the country is weakening in support of this terribly long and seemingly ineffective war. to expect the president to simply sign off on a request for more troops without serious thought and consideration is absurd.

So a president "taking his eye off the ball" to remove a brutal dictator and liberating millions of people was wrong. But a president "taking his eye off the ball" and only talking to his Afghan general once in 9 months while lobbying for the Olympic games calls for no scrutiny?
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Postby Lula » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:29 pm

don't kid yourself about the invasion of iraq. yeah, it's great saddam is gone. i know people who have family in iraq and it has been a mess to say the least. there was no reason whatsoever to invade when we did, unless you know of some inside politically motivated reason. bush created a clusterfuck and now his successor has deal with it.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:53 pm

Lula wrote:don't kid yourself about the invasion of iraq. yeah, it's great saddam is gone. i know people who have family in iraq and it has been a mess to say the least. there was no reason whatsoever to invade when we did, unless you know of some inside politically motivated reason. bush created a clusterfuck and not his precessor has deal with it.


everyone has a story. i know someone who went to iraq & was very surprised to see what they're NOT showing on tv. kids playing outside... smiling & going to school... people waving when our guys go by.
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Postby RedWingFan » Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:54 pm

Lula wrote:bush created a clusterfuck and not his precessor has deal with it.

What?
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Postby Lula » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:01 pm

oops pardon me-

now his predecessor has to deal with it.

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kids playing outside and folks waving to the troops is not what i mean. people have gone without electricity and running water because we destroyed the infrastructure. it is more dangerous for locals now than before, especially any people willing to work with the u.s. kidnapping of brothers and fathers is common place. you're right there is so much the media does not show us.
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:18 pm

Lula wrote:don't kid yourself about the invasion of iraq. yeah, it's great saddam is gone. i know people who have family in iraq and it has been a mess to say the least. there was no reason whatsoever to invade when we did, unless you know of some inside politically motivated reason. bush created a clusterfuck and now his predecessor has deal with it.

wait wait wait. you're a teacher and you don't know the difference between 'predecessor' and 'successor'?
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Postby treetopovskaya » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:21 pm

Lula wrote:oops pardon me-

now his predecessor has to deal with it.

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kids playing outside and folks waving to the troops is not what i mean. people have gone without electricity and running water because we destroyed the infrastructure. it is more dangerous for locals now than before, especially any people willing to work with the u.s. kidnapping of brothers and fathers is common place. you're right there is so much the media does not show us.


sorry but bullshit.
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Postby Lula » Sun Oct 04, 2009 3:36 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:
Lula wrote:oops pardon me-

now his predecessor has to deal with it.

tree-
kids playing outside and folks waving to the troops is not what i mean. people have gone without electricity and running water because we destroyed the infrastructure. it is more dangerous for locals now than before, especially any people willing to work with the u.s. kidnapping of brothers and fathers is common place. you're right there is so much the media does not show us.


sorry but bullshit.


i'll be sure to pass your comment along to my sister's next door neighbors :roll:
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Postby Lula » Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:05 pm

treetopovskaya wrote:
Lula wrote:don't kid yourself about the invasion of iraq. yeah, it's great saddam is gone. i know people who have family in iraq and it has been a mess to say the least. there was no reason whatsoever to invade when we did, unless you know of some inside politically motivated reason. bush created a clusterfuck and now his predecessor has deal with it.

wait wait wait. you're a teacher and you don't know the difference between 'predecessor' and 'successor'?


nice way to get nasty. my mistake. i guess i don't know the difference, but your kindness in bringing it to my attention is appreciated :oops: :roll:.
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