Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

[YoungJRNYfan]

This entire DCCinmaticUniverse is so gutsy and bold and that's so satisfying. Bombastic times are ahead.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Is this seriously being taken as a good decision? This looks more like Lady Gaga than the Joker. Whatever.

Lady Gaga's onstage persona as an entertainer is nothing but a sideshow quack that doesn't give a damn what you or anybody else thinks.



Mistah J would appreciate your observations

[YoungJRNYfan]

[The_Noble_Cause]

Pretty much says it all.
Lmao at the "Damaged" tat. How hardcore. Guess this joker's a Danity Kane fan

[YoungJRNYfan]

Snyders tweet:

Ha ha ha, the joke’s on you Batman… #cryptic #75th

Today is the Joker's 75th birthday. Looks like they timed the Joker reveal for the Joker's 75th and included tattoo's (yuking up the prison/Arkham life) of some of the Joker's trademarks and font style "HAHAHAHAHA" from classic comics. The reveal is in character of the Joker persona. Strange, questionable and whacky. #LoveDatJoker.

[YoungJRNYfan]

[YoungJRNYfan]

[RedWingFan]

This entire DCCinmaticUniverse is so gutsy and bold and that's so satisfying. Bombastic times are ahead.

Lol. So gutsy and bold that they sat on their asses for how many years while Marvel was showing them how much money could be made with their properties. Then they were "gutsy" enough to put their master plan into action and dip their toe in the water with GL. When that failed to break even, they were "gutsy and bold" enough to say, ummm, never mind. Then they plan to restart again with MOS. That barely surpasses its production budget domestically then all of the sudden they are "gutsy and bold" enough to all of the sudden jam in BvS, with just about every other DC character jammed in there.

That is neither "gutsy" nor "bold" because as I've said many times before. This is a can't miss movie box office wise. It's a cash grab. It's not "gutsy" or "bold" because DC has made clear that they're not afraid of putting out a shitty movie. What they are afraid of is putting out a movie that loses money. After BvS, If they do put out a stand alone movie other than Batman that doesn't do well financially, It's all gonna crumble. You'll probably still get Justice League 1, 2, 3, etc though.

[YoungJRNYfan]

This entire DCCinmaticUniverse is so gutsy and bold and that's so satisfying. Bombastic times are ahead.

Lol. So gutsy and bold that they sat on their asses for how many years while Marvel was showing them how much money could be made with their properties. Then they were "gutsy" enough to put their master plan into action and dip their toe in the water with GL. When that failed to break even, they were "gutsy and bold" enough to say, ummm, never mind. Then they plan to restart again with MOS. That barely surpasses its production budget domestically then all of the sudden they are "gutsy and bold" enough to all of the sudden jam in BvS, with just about every other DC character jammed in there.

That is neither "gutsy" nor "bold" because as I've said many times before. This is a can't miss movie box office wise. It's a cash grab. It's not "gutsy" or "bold" because DC has made clear that they're not afraid of putting out a shitty movie. What they are afraid of is putting out a movie that loses money. After BvS, If they do put out a stand alone movie other than Batman that doesn't do well financially, It's all gonna crumble. You'll probably still get Justice League 1, 2, 3, etc though.

Yawn. Get familiar with a man named Kevin Tsujihara, who became Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Warner Bros. in March 2013. He's the face of today's revelation.



It's true, WB swung and missed with Green Lantern and failed miserably at doing so, but that was at a time where they lacked any kind of commitment and direction. You can't compare today's timeline and still use the failure's of GL to prove the lousy argument because that is irrelevant to where we stand today. I will say, thank God for GL's failure's because we wouldn't be where we're at without it. It took a few uber-fails to find the right formula.

DC has come a long way and they are finally behind a man in Tsujihara who is dead serious about bringing this Universe alive in its most epic way compared to the former WB chairman, who is the person responsbile for the stigma DC finds themselves in with fans. Tsujihara knew it was a problem and understands the massive franchise's just waiting to erupt with a library FULL of beloved hero's fans have been waiting to see.

It's funny, fans always dogged on WB for not having a plan, but those days are over. WB, in collaboration with DC, has their plan set in place and committed. All people want to do is bitch, moan and compare success's to Marvel, which is also unfair because Marvel Studio's is designed to spitball movie after movie after movie while WB is designed to put out a slate of movie genre's by the hundreds by a yearly basis, not just superhero movies.

Batman V Superman isn't the money grab you claim it to be (it would have been if they went straight from MoS to Justice League). This pair-up has been in WB's vault for decades, always in production hell. It's been something WB has been desperately wanting to do for a long, long time but never made it to a place comfortable enough to greenlight.

After TDKTrilogy, WB found their niche. Man of Steel was the beginning to a fresh new start with a vision. Regardless of how you want to twist it, it got the return the studio wanted and finally gave WB the courage to greenlight the BvS movie in a logical "right place at the right time" way. It's kicking off the slate of DC's entire library of superhero's. Better get your kicks in now because before you know it, DC won't be the punching bag it is to fans now and we all know everybody loves a good punching bag. We are in the golden age of superhero movies and for the first time, DC is fueling their engines. No matter what a keyboard junkie wants to say, THAT pumps me up.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Henry Cavill just gave THEE best Superman answer ever:

Interviewer: I'm not going to ask you any questions about the other guy you're playing but I have to ask. What is YOUR opinion on who would win in a fight between Batman or Superman?

Cavill: There's no clear answer to that, obviously where the comic books have explored repeatably. It depends what frame of mind Superman is in really.

Interviewer: There's a resounding theory that Superman would destroy Batman in one second, which, if you read a comic, it's not true, so how do you answer to that retort that Superman would do it in one second?

Cavill: If Superman is Superman, which he is....he wouldn't. And there in lye's your answer.






https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKpzwOjTWAQ

[verslibre]

Lol. So gutsy and bold that they sat on their asses for how many years while Marvel was showing them how much money could be made with their properties.

Superman Lives was mothballed. Batman v. Superman aka World's Finest was rescued from and dumped back in development hell multiple times. The sequel to Superman Returns never happened, and several years passed before they knew Singer really wasn't going to do another one.

Meanwhile, Nolan made his trilogy; the second and third movies have grossed over a billion dollars worldwide.

Green Lantern was made but it bombed because they attempted a Marvel/Downey-esque sort of pic with awkward humor, a horribly realized villain, and FX that looked unfinished. It's watchable, but only in the way the Star Wars prequel trilogy is, in that you'd rather watch something else, anyway.

So they haven't really been "doing nothing," they've had other irons in the fire, i.e. lucrative franchises to play with.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Lol. So gutsy and bold that they sat on their asses for how many years while Marvel was showing them how much money could be made with their properties.

Superman Lives was mothballed. Batman v. Superman aka World's Finest was rescued from and dumped back in development hell multiple times. The sequel to Superman Returns never happened, and several years passed before they knew Singer really wasn't going to do another one.

Don't forget Superman Flyby with J.J Abrams as well, which, ironically, starred a very young Henry Cavill in his early 20's as Superman:



until that fell through with other reasons, which turned into Superman Returns with Bryan Singer, starring Brandon Routh as Reeve's stunt double.

Also, in 2008, JUSTICE LEAGUE: MORTAL was set to hit production, a direction under George Miller (who was helmed for the Mad Max Series) casting Arnmie Hammer as Batman; D.J. Cotrona as Superman, Megan Gale as Wonder Woman, Adam Brody as Flash, Common as Green Lantern, Hugh Keays-Byrne as Martian Manhunter, Santiago Cabrera as Aquaman, Teresa Palmer as Talia Al Ghul, Zoe Kasan as Iris Allen, and Jay Baruchel as the villain of the piece, Maxwell Lord.



That fell through because of the Writers Guild strike back in that heyday so things could have been a LOT different if those films would have takin' off and it would have easily been Marvel playing catch-up.

What's great is to see DC never waiver in the midst of criticism's and pure hate. With production hell's and some flops in between, people thought they'd NEVER get to the point to where we are today and...here we are. DC has givin' us something to talk about and then-some.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Ray Fisher; AKA Cyborg's Instagram:

[YoungJRNYfan]

Casting director of BvS; Lora Kennedy, weights in on Ben Affleck's casting as Batman and the reactions:

I think Ben handled it really well, but I think it was hard on him. I don’t think, at any time, people can’t expect that to not have an effect on these actors. It doesn’t matter if it’s Ben or anybody. All this negativity, and this anonymous hating that goes on on these websites is really out of control.

Kennedy added that audiences need to reserve judgment until they actually see what’s being made, and that she’s bothered by people showing hate toward casting decisions and movies in general before it’s even made.

No one knows what kind of Batman we’re making,” Kennedy said. “No one knows the character of Batman in this particular movie. It’s not Christian [Bale]. It’s a new Batman, and Ben is a new Batman, and he has a new take on it, and he’s worked very hard at this, and he has committed himself to it, and I think people are really going to be surprised.”

[Monker]

Casting director of BvS; Lora Kennedy, weights in on Ben Affleck's casting as Batman and the reactions:

I think Ben handled it really well, but I think it was hard on him. I don’t think, at any time, people can’t expect that to not have an effect on these actors. It doesn’t matter if it’s Ben or anybody. All this negativity, and this anonymous hating that goes on on these websites is really out of control.

Kennedy added that audiences need to reserve judgment until they actually see what’s being made, and that she’s bothered by people showing hate toward casting decisions and movies in general before it’s even made.

No one knows what kind of Batman we’re making,” Kennedy said. “No one knows the character of Batman in this particular movie. It’s not Christian [Bale]. It’s a new Batman, and Ben is a new Batman, and he has a new take on it, and he’s worked very hard at this, and he has committed himself to it, and I think people are really going to be surprised.”

So, in other words, she is saying EXACTLY what I have been saying...that this is a new Batman. But, then follows it up with a "don't judge it until you see the movie." attitude. That is presumptuous and arrogant. Part of my point is that people are going to turn away for the very reason that they don't know this Batman well enough to understand why he would engage Superman. I say many people are going to look at this concept and think, "This is fucking stupid." and stay home.

This reminds me a lot of Watchmen where it was hyped as "One of the most beloved graphic novels now comes to the big screen." But, the movie made absolutely no sense at all. I was so glad I didn't see that in the theater. Maybe it was this wonderful thing to those who read the comic...but to a laymen, it was retarded and the worst "super hero' movie I have ever seen.

That is what BvS is starting to look like to me. If you read the comic, oh, wow, it's going to be awesome. If you haven't...well, maybe you should so you fully appreciate the damn movie.

[YoungJRNYfan]

So, in other words, she is saying EXACTLY what I have been saying...that this is a new Batman

Everybody knows this is a new Batman. You weren't the first to figure the riddle out Captain Obvious

But, then follows it up with a "don't judge it until you see the movie." attitude. That is presumptuous and arrogant.

It's a shame people still have not learned their lesson. There are many movies out there that had the same backlash in this same genre where fans screamed on the top of their lungs how bad things were going to suck before the finished product. Time and time again, those people on constant repeat had their foot shoved straight down their mouth and out the ass. It's those trolls that are presumptuous and arrogant. Just like anything in life, not just films, don't judge a book by its cover and that rule applies here. Get to know the movie and the inside contents of the finished product before full throttle judgement. It's common sense 101.

Part of my point is that people are going to turn away for the very reason that they don't know this Batman well enough to understand why he would engage Superman.

You are just stuttering nonsense. Are they? Nothing at all suggests this will happen other than you repeating like a broken record your point, which is baseless.

This reminds me a lot of Watchmen where it was hyped as "One of the most beloved graphic novels now comes to the big screen."

It literally was. Snyder filmed the comic book frame by frame and basically word for word. He did what most people claimed what was impossible to do and did it. Bringing that comic book was damn near impossible. The Director's Cut of Watchmen is much, much better than the theatrical release.

Regardless, it's apples and oranges to BvS. What you're failing to realize time and time again is that they aren't making a movie about The Dark Knight Returns. What they are doing is modeling this Batman from that graphic novel and adapting personality traits from that book and plugging them into this Batman. They aren't making a movie about the actual book like Watchmen did.

Batman's character in BvS is an adaption of TDKReturns but the story and plot is something entirely different where nobody knows where it's going. Just like any other movie's job, you have to go watch in theater to find out how it all plays out.

I say many people are going to look at this concept and think, "This is fucking stupid." and stay home.

That's what you say. I say people are going to line up out the doors blocks away because this is the first time the two most iconic pop culture phenoms will share the same screen where people have been waiting a very, very, very long time for.

If you read the comic, oh, wow, it's going to be awesome. If you haven't...well, maybe you should so you fully appreciate the damn movie

You're totally missing the point. Affleck's Batman is only an adaption from the Batman in TDKReturns. They aren't making a movie on the graphic novel. This movie is not called "Batman: The Dark Knight Returns." It's called "Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice." That title hints to the audience that bigger things are happening other than the two hero's fighting. They know there's going to be a resolve from the title alone. Watching the movie to find out why they come to blows is all that more compelling.

If you ever read TDKReturns (have you?) and if you watch the BvS trailer, the stories are completely different. They take elements from the story, but Superman is an entirely different character than he was in TDKReturns and is the character that Man of Steel created.

Everything else as far as story goes we don't know. You have to watch a movie to find out exactly what happens. You won't get every single question answered from a movie that's 11 months away from a teaser trailer no matter how bad you want to beat a dead horse about it.

If the audience knew EXACTLY why Batman and Superman would be fighting, then they'd be bored to death because knowing would totally ruin the suspense of finding out.

Instead, they would have to sit there and just wait for the fight to happen and only look forward to the aftermath. Part of it is to engage the audience into finding out why Batman and Superman come face to face and once the audience finds out that there is more beef to the conflict, they are going to be glad to find out that way and appreciate finding out the way it was intended to rather than already knowing.

You don't pay a good amount of money on a ticket to know everything going in. People pay a good amount of money for the pay off and find out about a few surprise's along the way that makes the movie worthwhile and that's why your entire hogwash of a thought process will be debunked.

[verslibre]

I say people are going to line up out the doors blocks away because this is the first time the two most iconic pop culture phenoms will share the same screen where people have been waiting a very, very, very long time for.

It cannot be overstated.

If the audience knew EXACTLY why Batman and Superman would be fighting, then they'd be bored to death because knowing would totally ruin the suspense of finding out.

Yeah, I could've sworn that was the point of watching a movie in the first place. Imagine if the Vader-Luke relationship was leaked back in the day.

You don't pay a good amount of money on a ticket to know everything going in.

Unless it's Age of Ultron apparently. At least Marvel wants you to, judging by the amount of footage they've officially released, and being so kind as to open the movie overseas a week earlier. Again.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Here's something that might interest comic book fans. The promo picture of Leto in Suicide Squad isn't what he'll look like. It has since been revealed that this is NOT the final look for the Joker. This was merely a publicity shot to celebrate 75 years of the Joker's character in the comics

[YoungJRNYfan]

Most viewed trailers for the past week via Zefr and Gofobo

[Monker]

Is this seriously being taken as a good decision? This looks more like Lady Gaga than the Joker. Whatever.

I remember the very first off-set pic of Heath Ledger as a transitional Joker. Not too impressive.

THEN we saw him in the movie, and the rest is cinematic history.

He always reminded me of a sadistic version of Beetlejuice...in both look and his dialogue. And that's not a bad thing.

[Monker]

What does a pic of Christina Ricci from that Lizzy Bordan movie have to do with anything?

Here's something that might interest comic book fans. The promo picture of Leto in Suicide Squad isn't what he'll look like. It has since been revealed that this is NOT the final look for the Joker. This was merely a publicity shot to celebrate 75 years of the Joker's character in the comics

[Deb]

I love Momoa and the attitude he brings with him. He's fun, outspoken and is really a funny guy who likes having fun with this on camera. His words may read different, but he's having a great time with it when you watch him. He's definitely a bigger goofball than anyone thinks. Even RDJR admitted that he was embarrassingly pompous and egotistical enough in how in the beginning, he actually bought into the Tony Stark character as it was him, Robert Downey Jr and he knows it, yet, everybody loves him for it.

Bottom line, I'm glad Momoa is onboard. He brings a unique element to the table.

+1

Lol and believe me I've seen almost everything he's done. Stargate Atlantis (TV), North Shore (TV) Game of Thrones (TV), Red Road (TV) Conan, Bullet to the Head, Road to Paloma, etc...........and TONS of interviews. Definitely a big goofball, he's actually quite funny and self depricating...........not at all pompous and arrogant.....and known for being very fan friendly. I guess it all depends on your sense of humour and how analytically you're going to delve into every word in print.

I just recently heard from my brother that he was at this years comic-con thingy right here in my city. Not that I'm into those events, but Fuck a duck! Oh well, my brother said his picture/autograph line up was huge.......would have spent hours in a line so I guess it's best I didn't know.

[YoungJRNYfan]

You've always had good taste, Deb and you're proving it in this thread

[YoungJRNYfan]

Arrogant Alien @SonofArrogance · 21m 21 minutes ago
The #Batmobile is physically on the set of #SuicideSquad in #Canada. Dont ask me how I know this or why but yeah its there.

Time to get 'dose teeth knocked down 'yer throat, 'der Mr.J! Batfleck on the set for Suicide Squad.

[verslibre]

Holy. Smoke.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Holy. Smoke.

I love this.

[YoungJRNYfan]

AMC Theaters John Campea:
5 reasons why Batman V Superman will succeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i39YW71EtEk

[YoungJRNYfan]

So much great content already pouring in for this DCCinmatic Universe and it's only just begun:


Is The Joker Picture Real? - AMC Movie News

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAiet9IDbOo

[verslibre]

Don't forget Superman Flyby with J.J Abrams as well, which, ironically, starred a very young Henry Cavill in his early 20's as Superman:

^Wasn't this movie the one that was actually going to be directed by McG? I don't think that would have worked out too well.

[verslibre]

AMC Theaters John Campea:
5 reasons why Batman V Superman will succeed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i39YW71EtEk

All five points confirmed. Way to go!

RE: Justice League: Mortal...now IMO, that would have been rushing things by introducing everybody and the kitchen sink right on the heels of The Dark Knight Rises (which they would have no doubt pressed Nolan to finish a year earlier).

The way things are now is just fine.