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Postby RocknRoll » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:48 am

Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


I still say he had his priorities screwed up at that time. As far as knocking the guy, this is the only performance I have a problem with and for the reasons stated. If he had shown up with the rest of the band rather than showing up just in time for the performance, I would definitely be giving him a pass. Also, didn't I hear these were not really 100% charity shows where no performer gets paid? Anyway, I still like AP and feel he is a great person and vocalist. He is the right frontman for Journey now.

Now back to KC....
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Postby Jana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:51 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


the sick excuse is getting as bad as the lippin excuses man.


No, it's a fact. He had no defenses built up to the allergens in this country, and they ate his ass up. My dad's new wife, who's also from the Philippines, is having the same problem.


Yeah, actually it's the best damn excuse anyone can ever ask for. I've seen Arnel plenty of times live, got the privilege to shake his hand and at the time in '08, the dude looked ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED to the point of tears. He said he was under the weather and the time zones from coming to the states was not something he was used to. HELL, flying a couple states over had me HOWLING, just imagine flying across seas, coming from a native country that's not known for their great atmosphere.

After all of the sickness, Arnel went on stage, with a damn scarf on and kicked major ass and didn't miss a note the whole damn night, cold and all, singing a GRUELING night to night catalog. Arnel's the type of person that would be the LAST person to feel sorry for themselves and it shows.

By the time of the Super Bowl, the guy was sick as a dog and if you can use your ears for once and actually listen to a boot compared to the Super Bowl, Arnel wasn't up to par and his sickness derailed him big time, which he acknowledged AND apologized for like he murdered somebody, which was unnecessary givin' the work hoarse that is the Journey touring schedule. I don't mean to polish AP's knob, but I'm a firm believer in givin' credit when credit's due, and judging by what the guy's been showing since he had the spotlight, how can you NOT give him the due he deserves even if you don't support the lineup or not?


Great post.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:53 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


the sick excuse is getting as bad as the lippin excuses man.


No, it's a fact. He had no defenses built up to the allergens in this country, and they ate his ass up. My dad's new wife, who's also from the Philippines, is having the same problem.


Yeah, actually it's the best damn excuse anyone can ever ask for. I've seen Arnel plenty of times live, got the privilege to shake his hand and at the time in '08, the dude looked ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED to the point of tears. He said he was under the weather and the time zones from coming to the states was not something he was used to. HELL, flying a couple states over had me HOWLING, just imagine flying across seas, coming from a native country that's not known for their great atmosphere. (I get a sore throat and can't hum fuckin 'Marry had a little lamb'. )

After all of the sickness, Arnel went on stage, with a damn scarf on and kicked major ass and didn't miss a note the whole damn night, cold and all, singing a GRUELING night to night catalog. Arnel's the type of person that would be the LAST person to feel sorry for themselves and it shows.

By the time of the Super Bowl, the guy was sick as a dog and if you can use your ears for once and actually listen to a boot compared to the Super Bowl, Arnel wasn't up to par and his sickness derailed him big time, which he acknowledged AND apologized for like he murdered somebody, which was unnecessary givin' the work hoarse that is the Journey touring schedule. I don't mean to polish AP's knob, but I'm a firm believer in givin' credit when credit's due, and judging by what the guy's been showing since he had the spotlight, how can you NOT give him the due he deserves even if you don't support the lineup or not?


There will come a time when this man will have earned the respect of even the toughest of critics. I'm convinced of it. That kind of person rises above all that negativity and goes on to become something great.
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Postby portland » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:54 am

Jana wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


the sick excuse is getting as bad as the lippin excuses man.


No, it's a fact. He had no defenses built up to the allergens in this country, and they ate his ass up. My dad's new wife, who's also from the Philippines, is having the same problem.


Yeah, actually it's the best damn excuse anyone can ever ask for. I've seen Arnel plenty of times live, got the privilege to shake his hand and at the time in '08, the dude looked ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED to the point of tears. He said he was under the weather and the time zones from coming to the states was not something he was used to. HELL, flying a couple states over had me HOWLING, just imagine flying across seas, coming from a native country that's not known for their great atmosphere.

After all of the sickness, Arnel went on stage, with a damn scarf on and kicked major ass and didn't miss a note the whole damn night, cold and all, singing a GRUELING night to night catalog. Arnel's the type of person that would be the LAST person to feel sorry for themselves and it shows.

By the time of the Super Bowl, the guy was sick as a dog and if you can use your ears for once and actually listen to a boot compared to the Super Bowl, Arnel wasn't up to par and his sickness derailed him big time, which he acknowledged AND apologized for like he murdered somebody, which was unnecessary givin' the work hoarse that is the Journey touring schedule. I don't mean to polish AP's knob, but I'm a firm believer in givin' credit when credit's due, and judging by what the guy's been showing since he had the spotlight, how can you NOT give him the due he deserves even if you don't support the lineup or not?


Great post.



I don't dispute that he is a hard worker...he is...and yes the song catalog is a bitch!

but for me it's not the same.....and well it is what it is.
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Postby Jana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 9:56 am

RocknRoll wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


I still say he had his priorities screwed up at that time. As far as knocking the guy, this is the only performance I have a problem with and for the reasons stated. If he had shown up with the rest of the band rather than showing up just in time for the performance, I would definitely be giving him a pass. Also, didn't I hear these were not really 100% charity shows where no performer gets paid? Anyway, I still like AP and feel he is a great person and vocalist. He is the right frontman for Journey now.


He showed up sometime on Saturday, I thought, the day before. But I agree that he should have cancelled that performance on Friday. In hindsight, I'm sure he does too. Jon is the one on a radio show that blew off the SB management wanting them there two days early to rehearse two days, thinking it was unnecessary, but said they would, pretty much saying it was a songs they knew in their sleep.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:03 am

portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


the sick excuse is getting as bad as the lippin excuses man.


No, it's a fact. He had no defenses built up to the allergens in this country, and they ate his ass up. My dad's new wife, who's also from the Philippines, is having the same problem.


Yeah, actually it's the best damn excuse anyone can ever ask for. I've seen Arnel plenty of times live, got the privilege to shake his hand and at the time in '08, the dude looked ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED to the point of tears. He said he was under the weather and the time zones from coming to the states was not something he was used to. HELL, flying a couple states over had me HOWLING, just imagine flying across seas, coming from a native country that's not known for their great atmosphere.

After all of the sickness, Arnel went on stage, with a damn scarf on and kicked major ass and didn't miss a note the whole damn night, cold and all, singing a GRUELING night to night catalog. Arnel's the type of person that would be the LAST person to feel sorry for themselves and it shows.

By the time of the Super Bowl, the guy was sick as a dog and if you can use your ears for once and actually listen to a boot compared to the Super Bowl, Arnel wasn't up to par and his sickness derailed him big time, which he acknowledged AND apologized for like he murdered somebody, which was unnecessary givin' the work hoarse that is the Journey touring schedule. I don't mean to polish AP's knob, but I'm a firm believer in givin' credit when credit's due, and judging by what the guy's been showing since he had the spotlight, how can you NOT give him the due he deserves even if you don't support the lineup or not?


Great post.



I don't dispute that he is a hard worker...he is...and yes the song catalog is a bitch!

but for me it's not the same.....and well it is what it is.


You mean comparing Arnel to Steve Perry.. as in it's not the same feel without Perry? If so, then yes, you are correct. Perry was there during Journey's prime and pretty much made Journey what is is today and will always shadow ANY current lineup. The 80's are LONG, LONG, LONG gone and noone will ever dispute that Journey is not the same without Perry, but it is NOT a fair comparison and is a lame excuse not to be into today's Journey. It's a rear view mirror type thing, you'll never enjoy something if you never let it go.

All I know is, during the DL tour, they N-E-V-E-R had the feel or aurora that they do around them now that AP's on board. Journey is literally hotter than ever and without any comparison's to Steve Perry, this is the lineup that atleast comes close to that magic some 20 years back.
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Postby RocknRoll » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:03 am

Jana wrote:
RocknRoll wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


I still say he had his priorities screwed up at that time. As far as knocking the guy, this is the only performance I have a problem with and for the reasons stated. If he had shown up with the rest of the band rather than showing up just in time for the performance, I would definitely be giving him a pass. Also, didn't I hear these were not really 100% charity shows where no performer gets paid? Anyway, I still like AP and feel he is a great person and vocalist. He is the right frontman for Journey now.


He showed up sometime on Saturday, I thought, the day before. But I agree that he should have cancelled that performance on Friday. In hindsight, I'm sure he does too. Jon is the one on a radio show that blew off the SB management wanting them there two days early to rehearse two days, thinking it was unnecessary, but said they would, pretty much saying it was a songs they knew in their sleep.


It is water under the bridge at this point. It just lessened my enthusiasm at bit. I listened to the JC interview and Jon pretty much had to say it was unnecessary the way the DJ's were kidding about it. I thought folks heard the band practicing during sound check saturday with someone else singing?

I agree on the hindsight bit, AP broke my heart when he bacame so upset over his performance. :cry:
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Postby portland » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:07 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


the sick excuse is getting as bad as the lippin excuses man.


No, it's a fact. He had no defenses built up to the allergens in this country, and they ate his ass up. My dad's new wife, who's also from the Philippines, is having the same problem.


Yeah, actually it's the best damn excuse anyone can ever ask for. I've seen Arnel plenty of times live, got the privilege to shake his hand and at the time in '08, the dude looked ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED to the point of tears. He said he was under the weather and the time zones from coming to the states was not something he was used to. HELL, flying a couple states over had me HOWLING, just imagine flying across seas, coming from a native country that's not known for their great atmosphere.

After all of the sickness, Arnel went on stage, with a damn scarf on and kicked major ass and didn't miss a note the whole damn night, cold and all, singing a GRUELING night to night catalog. Arnel's the type of person that would be the LAST person to feel sorry for themselves and it shows.

By the time of the Super Bowl, the guy was sick as a dog and if you can use your ears for once and actually listen to a boot compared to the Super Bowl, Arnel wasn't up to par and his sickness derailed him big time, which he acknowledged AND apologized for like he murdered somebody, which was unnecessary givin' the work hoarse that is the Journey touring schedule. I don't mean to polish AP's knob, but I'm a firm believer in givin' credit when credit's due, and judging by what the guy's been showing since he had the spotlight, how can you NOT give him the due he deserves even if you don't support the lineup or not?


Great post.



I don't dispute that he is a hard worker...he is...and yes the song catalog is a bitch!

but for me it's not the same.....and well it is what it is.


You mean comparing Arnel to Steve Perry.. as in it's not the same feel without Perry? If so, then yes, you are correct. Perry was there during Journey's prime and pretty much made Journey what is is today and will always shadow ANY current lineup. The 80's are LONG, LONG, LONG gone and noone will ever dispute that Journey is not the same without Perry, but it is NOT a fair comparison and is a lame excuse not to be into today's Journey. It's a rear view mirror type thing, you'll never enjoy something if you never let it go.

All I know is, during the DL tour, they N-E-V-E-R had the feel or aurora that they do around them now that AP's on board. Journey is literally hotter than ever and without any comparison's to Steve Perry, this is the lineup that atleast comes close to that magic some 20 years back.





I don't know what it is....and yes for me he does not do it.

I am so happy for the ones who love it!!

For those of us who don't....just respect the difference of opinion.

For me none of them really did it.....SA, JSS or AP

I am true blue to the Classic sound...for those who can get past it...you are better than me!
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Postby Jana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:08 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


the sick excuse is getting as bad as the lippin excuses man.


No, it's a fact. He had no defenses built up to the allergens in this country, and they ate his ass up. My dad's new wife, who's also from the Philippines, is having the same problem.


Yeah, actually it's the best damn excuse anyone can ever ask for. I've seen Arnel plenty of times live, got the privilege to shake his hand and at the time in '08, the dude looked ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED to the point of tears. He said he was under the weather and the time zones from coming to the states was not something he was used to. HELL, flying a couple states over had me HOWLING, just imagine flying across seas, coming from a native country that's not known for their great atmosphere.

After all of the sickness, Arnel went on stage, with a damn scarf on and kicked major ass and didn't miss a note the whole damn night, cold and all, singing a GRUELING night to night catalog. Arnel's the type of person that would be the LAST person to feel sorry for themselves and it shows.

By the time of the Super Bowl, the guy was sick as a dog and if you can use your ears for once and actually listen to a boot compared to the Super Bowl, Arnel wasn't up to par and his sickness derailed him big time, which he acknowledged AND apologized for like he murdered somebody, which was unnecessary givin' the work hoarse that is the Journey touring schedule. I don't mean to polish AP's knob, but I'm a firm believer in givin' credit when credit's due, and judging by what the guy's been showing since he had the spotlight, how can you NOT give him the due he deserves even if you don't support the lineup or not?


Great post.



I don't dispute that he is a hard worker...he is...and yes the song catalog is a bitch!

but for me it's not the same.....and well it is what it is.


You mean comparing Arnel to Steve Perry.. as in it's not the same feel without Perry? If so, then yes, you are correct. Perry was there during Journey's prime and pretty much made Journey what is is today and will always shadow ANY current lineup. The 80's are LONG, LONG, LONG gone and noone will ever dispute that Journey is not the same without Perry, but it is NOT a fair comparison and is a lame excuse not to be into today's Journey. It's a rear view mirror type thing, you'll never enjoy something if you never let it go.

All I know is, during the DL tour, they N-E-V-E-R had the feel or aurora that they do around them now that AP's on board. Journey is literally hotter than ever and without any comparison's to Steve Perry, this is the lineup that atleast comes close to that magic some 20 years back.


Don't bother. Portland is one that waits for a nasty comment re Arnel/Journey era and jumps in with a high five, and never once acknowledges a good performance. There's a few like her on here. And then there are fair people like Deb, who aren't into Arnel, but still come on and acknowledge some really good performances by him. Most on here are like that. It is how I am with JSS. Not a fan of him for Journey vocally at all, but I've seen some really good clips of certain songs by him with Journey that he shined.

Sorry, Portland. I had to say it. Still love you in all your darkness. :lol: :lol: :lol: You are a tad better now. :wink:
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Postby portland » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:10 am

Jana wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


the sick excuse is getting as bad as the lippin excuses man.


No, it's a fact. He had no defenses built up to the allergens in this country, and they ate his ass up. My dad's new wife, who's also from the Philippines, is having the same problem.


Yeah, actually it's the best damn excuse anyone can ever ask for. I've seen Arnel plenty of times live, got the privilege to shake his hand and at the time in '08, the dude looked ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED to the point of tears. He said he was under the weather and the time zones from coming to the states was not something he was used to. HELL, flying a couple states over had me HOWLING, just imagine flying across seas, coming from a native country that's not known for their great atmosphere.

After all of the sickness, Arnel went on stage, with a damn scarf on and kicked major ass and didn't miss a note the whole damn night, cold and all, singing a GRUELING night to night catalog. Arnel's the type of person that would be the LAST person to feel sorry for themselves and it shows.

By the time of the Super Bowl, the guy was sick as a dog and if you can use your ears for once and actually listen to a boot compared to the Super Bowl, Arnel wasn't up to par and his sickness derailed him big time, which he acknowledged AND apologized for like he murdered somebody, which was unnecessary givin' the work hoarse that is the Journey touring schedule. I don't mean to polish AP's knob, but I'm a firm believer in givin' credit when credit's due, and judging by what the guy's been showing since he had the spotlight, how can you NOT give him the due he deserves even if you don't support the lineup or not?


Great post.



I don't dispute that he is a hard worker...he is...and yes the song catalog is a bitch!

but for me it's not the same.....and well it is what it is.


You mean comparing Arnel to Steve Perry.. as in it's not the same feel without Perry? If so, then yes, you are correct. Perry was there during Journey's prime and pretty much made Journey what is is today and will always shadow ANY current lineup. The 80's are LONG, LONG, LONG gone and noone will ever dispute that Journey is not the same without Perry, but it is NOT a fair comparison and is a lame excuse not to be into today's Journey. It's a rear view mirror type thing, you'll never enjoy something if you never let it go.

All I know is, during the DL tour, they N-E-V-E-R had the feel or aurora that they do around them now that AP's on board. Journey is literally hotter than ever and without any comparison's to Steve Perry, this is the lineup that atleast comes close to that magic some 20 years back.


Don't bother. Portland is one that waits for a nasty comment re Arnel/Journey era and jumps in with a high five, and never once acknowledges a good performance. There's a few like her on here. And then there are fair people like Deb, who aren't into Arnel, but still come on and acknowledge some really good performances by him. Most on here are like that. It is how I am with JSS. Not a fan of him for Journey vocally at all, but I've seen some really good clips of certain songs by him with Journey that he shined.

Sorry, Portland. I had to say it. Still love you in all your darkness. :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Postby Rockindeano » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:12 am

I love how the title of this thread is "Kevin Chalfant" and no one is even talking about him.
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Postby portland » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:13 am

Rockindeano wrote:I love how the title of this thread is "Kevin Chalfant" and no one is even talking about him.



I already said that!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Jana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:15 am

Rockindeano wrote:I love how the title of this thread is "Kevin Chalfant" and no one is even talking about him.


Give Gator a moment and he will get it back on track with his Chalfanator love. :wink: :lol:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:17 am

Jana wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


the sick excuse is getting as bad as the lippin excuses man.


No, it's a fact. He had no defenses built up to the allergens in this country, and they ate his ass up. My dad's new wife, who's also from the Philippines, is having the same problem.


Yeah, actually it's the best damn excuse anyone can ever ask for. I've seen Arnel plenty of times live, got the privilege to shake his hand and at the time in '08, the dude looked ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED to the point of tears. He said he was under the weather and the time zones from coming to the states was not something he was used to. HELL, flying a couple states over had me HOWLING, just imagine flying across seas, coming from a native country that's not known for their great atmosphere.

After all of the sickness, Arnel went on stage, with a damn scarf on and kicked major ass and didn't miss a note the whole damn night, cold and all, singing a GRUELING night to night catalog. Arnel's the type of person that would be the LAST person to feel sorry for themselves and it shows.

By the time of the Super Bowl, the guy was sick as a dog and if you can use your ears for once and actually listen to a boot compared to the Super Bowl, Arnel wasn't up to par and his sickness derailed him big time, which he acknowledged AND apologized for like he murdered somebody, which was unnecessary givin' the work hoarse that is the Journey touring schedule. I don't mean to polish AP's knob, but I'm a firm believer in givin' credit when credit's due, and judging by what the guy's been showing since he had the spotlight, how can you NOT give him the due he deserves even if you don't support the lineup or not?


Great post.



I don't dispute that he is a hard worker...he is...and yes the song catalog is a bitch!

but for me it's not the same.....and well it is what it is.


You mean comparing Arnel to Steve Perry.. as in it's not the same feel without Perry? If so, then yes, you are correct. Perry was there during Journey's prime and pretty much made Journey what is is today and will always shadow ANY current lineup. The 80's are LONG, LONG, LONG gone and noone will ever dispute that Journey is not the same without Perry, but it is NOT a fair comparison and is a lame excuse not to be into today's Journey. It's a rear view mirror type thing, you'll never enjoy something if you never let it go.

All I know is, during the DL tour, they N-E-V-E-R had the feel or aurora that they do around them now that AP's on board. Journey is literally hotter than ever and without any comparison's to Steve Perry, this is the lineup that atleast comes close to that magic some 20 years back.


Don't bother. Portland is one that waits for a nasty comment re Arnel/Journey era and jumps in with a high five, and never once acknowledges a good performance. There's a few like her on here. And then there are fair people like Deb, who aren't into Arnel, but still come on and acknowledge some really good performances by him. Most on here are like that. It is how I am with JSS. Not a fan of him for Journey vocally at all, but I've seen some really good clips of certain songs by him with Journey that he shined.

Sorry, Portland. I had to say it. Still love you in all your darkness. :lol: :lol: :lol: You are a tad better now. :wink:


It's perfectly cool. Portland is entitled to however she feels and her opinions make the board go 'round. She said it all when she said Augeri, Soto, OR AP didn't cut it and I know exactly where she is coming from. In a nutshell, portland is more of a diehard Perry fan than a regular Journey fan so I would never jump her, or anyone's bones about it because that's walking on fire. I actually like hearing different people's opinions about it, like portland's.

It's just the people that will continually bash it into the ground with no logical explanation behind their opinions and only do it because they are so devoted to one singer or person that nothing but close mindedness takes over. Other than that it's all goooood. 8)
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Postby ScarabGator » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:17 am

This topic really needs to swith back to the talent that is Kevin Chalfant aka The Chalfanator.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:18 am

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Rockindeano wrote:I love how the title of this thread is "Kevin Chalfant" and no one is even talking about him.


Give Gator a moment and he will get it back on track with his Chalfanator love. :wink: :lol:


As soon as he's done giving his love to Parfait over in the Journey forum. :lol:
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Postby Jana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:19 am

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Jana wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I love how the title of this thread is "Kevin Chalfant" and no one is even talking about him.


Give Gator a moment and he will get it back on track with his Chalfanator love. :wink: :lol:


As soon as he's done giving his love to Parfait over in the Journey forum. :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Here's Chalfant on Who's Crying Now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vts7sAjWiAw
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Postby ScarabGator » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:19 am

steveo777 wrote:
Jana wrote:
Rockindeano wrote:I love how the title of this thread is "Kevin Chalfant" and no one is even talking about him.


Give Gator a moment and he will get it back on track with his Chalfanator love. :wink: :lol:


As soon as he's done giving his love to Parfait over in the Journey forum. :lol:


im gonna give that asshole a lot more than my damn love.
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Postby portland » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:20 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
Jana wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
portland wrote:
Jana wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
Rick wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:
Saint John wrote:
RocknRoll wrote: it was AP's actions prior to the show that got to me. He refused to make Journey his priority in one of their most watched performances in front of millions of casual fans.


While that certainly may be true to some degree, he also made sure he kept his obligation to perform at his charity concert. He's extremely committed to feeding the hungry and I can't blame the guy for trying to do both. He was sick, man, and I think he would have still been sick had he not done the charity show. It's just a cheap excuse to knock the guy. He doesn't drink, he doesn't do drugs, he's a fitness freak, won't drink anything cooler than room temperature and you're gonna knock his "priorities"? Try again.


the sick excuse is getting as bad as the lippin excuses man.


No, it's a fact. He had no defenses built up to the allergens in this country, and they ate his ass up. My dad's new wife, who's also from the Philippines, is having the same problem.


Yeah, actually it's the best damn excuse anyone can ever ask for. I've seen Arnel plenty of times live, got the privilege to shake his hand and at the time in '08, the dude looked ABSOLUTELY EXHAUSTED to the point of tears. He said he was under the weather and the time zones from coming to the states was not something he was used to. HELL, flying a couple states over had me HOWLING, just imagine flying across seas, coming from a native country that's not known for their great atmosphere.

After all of the sickness, Arnel went on stage, with a damn scarf on and kicked major ass and didn't miss a note the whole damn night, cold and all, singing a GRUELING night to night catalog. Arnel's the type of person that would be the LAST person to feel sorry for themselves and it shows.

By the time of the Super Bowl, the guy was sick as a dog and if you can use your ears for once and actually listen to a boot compared to the Super Bowl, Arnel wasn't up to par and his sickness derailed him big time, which he acknowledged AND apologized for like he murdered somebody, which was unnecessary givin' the work hoarse that is the Journey touring schedule. I don't mean to polish AP's knob, but I'm a firm believer in givin' credit when credit's due, and judging by what the guy's been showing since he had the spotlight, how can you NOT give him the due he deserves even if you don't support the lineup or not?


Great post.



I don't dispute that he is a hard worker...he is...and yes the song catalog is a bitch!

but for me it's not the same.....and well it is what it is.


You mean comparing Arnel to Steve Perry.. as in it's not the same feel without Perry? If so, then yes, you are correct. Perry was there during Journey's prime and pretty much made Journey what is is today and will always shadow ANY current lineup. The 80's are LONG, LONG, LONG gone and noone will ever dispute that Journey is not the same without Perry, but it is NOT a fair comparison and is a lame excuse not to be into today's Journey. It's a rear view mirror type thing, you'll never enjoy something if you never let it go.

All I know is, during the DL tour, they N-E-V-E-R had the feel or aurora that they do around them now that AP's on board. Journey is literally hotter than ever and without any comparison's to Steve Perry, this is the lineup that atleast comes close to that magic some 20 years back.


Don't bother. Portland is one that waits for a nasty comment re Arnel/Journey era and jumps in with a high five, and never once acknowledges a good performance. There's a few like her on here. And then there are fair people like Deb, who aren't into Arnel, but still come on and acknowledge some really good performances by him. Most on here are like that. It is how I am with JSS. Not a fan of him for Journey vocally at all, but I've seen some really good clips of certain songs by him with Journey that he shined.

Sorry, Portland. I had to say it. Still love you in all your darkness. :lol: :lol: :lol: You are a tad better now. :wink:


It's perfectly cool. Portland is entitled to however she feels and her opinions make the board go 'round. She said it all when she said Augeri, Soto, OR AP didn't cut it and I know exactly where she is coming from. In a nutshell, portland is more of a diehard Perry fan than a regular Journey fan so I would never jump her, or anyone's bones about it because that's walking on fire. I actually like hearing different people's opinions about it, like portland's.

It's just the people that will continually bash it into the ground with no logical explanation behind their opinions and only do it because they are so devoted to one singer or person that nothing but close mindedness takes over. Other than that it's all goooood. 8)




Thanks you get it!! and I appreciate that you do.
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:22 am

ScarabGator wrote:This topic really needs to swith back to the talent that is Kevin Chalfant aka The Chalfanator.


YES, the Chalfantator is a badass talent and would love to see a boot of him when he performed with Journey for the few nights that he did. But..it's no fun. He was never givin the chance to be Journey's frontman, so that means we can't pick the meat off of EVERYTHING he does like the crow's that we all are when it comes to Journey and their lead singers. Other than that I got nothing. 8)
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Postby Jana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:23 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:This topic really needs to swith back to the talent that is Kevin Chalfant aka The Chalfanator.


YES, the Chalfantator is a badass talent and would love to see a boot of him when he performed with Journey for the few nights that he did. But..it's no fun. He was never givin the chance to be Journey's frontman, so that means we can't pick the meat off of EVERYTHING he does like the crow's that we all are when it comes to Journey and their lead singers. Other than that I got nothing. 8)


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Postby ScarabGator » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:25 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:This topic really needs to swith back to the talent that is Kevin Chalfant aka The Chalfanator.


YES, the Chalfantator is a badass talent and would love to see a boot of him when he performed with Journey for the few nights that he did. But..it's no fun. He was never givin the chance to be Journey's frontman, so that means we can't pick the meat off of EVERYTHING he does like the crow's that we all are when it comes to Journey and their lead singers. Other than that I got nothing. 8)

well dammit he should be the singer for Journey. Beyond that I got nothing!
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Postby Jana » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:28 am

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ScarabGator wrote:This topic really needs to swith back to the talent that is Kevin Chalfant aka The Chalfanator.


YES, the Chalfantator is a badass talent and would love to see a boot of him when he performed with Journey for the few nights that he did. But..it's no fun. He was never givin the chance to be Journey's frontman, so that means we can't pick the meat off of EVERYTHING he does like the crow's that we all are when it comes to Journey and their lead singers. Other than that I got nothing. 8)

well dammit he should be the singer for Journey. Beyond that I got nothing!


You have a split personality b/c, according to you, Augeri should still be the singer for Journey, and Jeremey, and JSS, and Kelty, and Arn -- oops, I will stop there. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Michigan Girl » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:29 am

YoungJRNY wrote:It's perfectly cool. Portland is entitled to however she feels and her opinions make the board go 'round. She said it all when she said Augeri, Soto, OR AP didn't cut it and I know exactly where she is coming from. In a nutshell, portland is more of a diehard Perry fan than a regular Journey fan so I would never jump her, or anyone's bones about it because that's walking on fire. I actually like hearing different people's opinions about it, like portland's.

It's just the people that will continually bash it into the ground with no logical explanation behind their opinions and only do it because they are so devoted to one singer or person that nothing but close mindedness takes over. Other than that it's all goooood. 8)


Such a smart young man, certainly there are some folks around here that could learn a thing or two from this!!!! :wink:
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:29 am

ScarabGator wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
ScarabGator wrote:This topic really needs to swith back to the talent that is Kevin Chalfant aka The Chalfanator.


YES, the Chalfantator is a badass talent and would love to see a boot of him when he performed with Journey for the few nights that he did. But..it's no fun. He was never givin the chance to be Journey's frontman, so that means we can't pick the meat off of EVERYTHING he does like the crow's that we all are when it comes to Journey and their lead singers. Other than that I got nothing. 8)

well dammit he should be the singer for Journey. Beyond that I got nothing!


Wait! You said the same thing about Soto, you goddamn two timer! :lol: 8) :twisted:
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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:32 am

well dammit he should be the singer for Journey. Beyond that I got nothing!


I have a theory and this comes to mind when I see the name "Kevin Chalfant."

The dude had SO many chances at Journey and could have EASILY been in place and could be Journey's frontman today, but yet, was always passed over. My theory is that he is one of those people that have a chronic, sweaty asshole that reeks up the whole joint to the point where NOONE ever points it out to him, which ultimately leads to noone wanting him around. I had a friend once like that, and it was hard to tell him to wash his cracks. This has to be the Chalfant experience because the dude should of atleast been givin' a strong opportunity, so I bet his butthole is constantly on reek. There's no other explanation on why he wasn't Journey's front man at ONE point or another.
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Postby steveo777 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:34 am

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well dammit he should be the singer for Journey. Beyond that I got nothing!


I have a theory and this comes to mind when I see the name "Kevin Chalfant."

The dude had SO many chances at Journey and could have EASILY been in place and could be Journey's frontman today, but yet, was always passed over. My theory is that he is one of those people that have a chronic, sweaty asshole that reeks up the whole joint to the point where NOONE ever points it out to him, which ultimately leads to noone wanting him around. I had a friend once like that, and it was hard to tell him to wash his cracks. This has to be the Chalfant experience because the dude should of atleast been givin' a strong opportunity, so I bet his butthole is constantly on reek. There's no other explanation on why he wasn't Journey's front man at ONE point or another.


I had a dog with that problem. It needed to have it's anal glands expressed. Google it. :wink:
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Postby JasonD » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:36 am

YoungJRNY wrote:
well dammit he should be the singer for Journey. Beyond that I got nothing!


I have a theory and this comes to mind when I see the name "Kevin Chalfant."

The dude had SO many chances at Journey and could have EASILY been in place and could be Journey's frontman today, but yet, was always passed over. My theory is that he is one of those people that have a chronic, sweaty asshole that reeks up the whole joint to the point where NOONE ever points it out to him, which ultimately leads to noone wanting him around. I had a friend once like that, and it was hard to tell him to wash his cracks. This has to be the Chalfant experience because the dude should of atleast been givin' a strong opportunity, so I bet his butthole is constantly on reek. There's no other explanation on why he wasn't Journey's front man at ONE point or another.


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Postby YoungJRNY » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:37 am

JasonD wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
well dammit he should be the singer for Journey. Beyond that I got nothing!


I have a theory and this comes to mind when I see the name "Kevin Chalfant."

The dude had SO many chances at Journey and could have EASILY been in place and could be Journey's frontman today, but yet, was always passed over. My theory is that he is one of those people that have a chronic, sweaty asshole that reeks up the whole joint to the point where NOONE ever points it out to him, which ultimately leads to noone wanting him around. I had a friend once like that, and it was hard to tell him to wash his cracks. This has to be the Chalfant experience because the dude should of atleast been givin' a strong opportunity, so I bet his butthole is constantly on reek. There's no other explanation on why he wasn't Journey's front man at ONE point or another.


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EXACTLY. Lol. :lol:
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Postby bluejeangirl76 » Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:45 am

steveo777 wrote:
YoungJRNY wrote:
well dammit he should be the singer for Journey. Beyond that I got nothing!


I have a theory and this comes to mind when I see the name "Kevin Chalfant."

The dude had SO many chances at Journey and could have EASILY been in place and could be Journey's frontman today, but yet, was always passed over. My theory is that he is one of those people that have a chronic, sweaty asshole that reeks up the whole joint to the point where NOONE ever points it out to him, which ultimately leads to noone wanting him around. I had a friend once like that, and it was hard to tell him to wash his cracks. This has to be the Chalfant experience because the dude should of atleast been givin' a strong opportunity, so I bet his butthole is constantly on reek. There's no other explanation on why he wasn't Journey's front man at ONE point or another.


I had a dog with that problem. It needed to have it's anal glands expressed. Google it. :wink:


I DARE someone to suggest that to him face to face at MRF. I'll give ya $20.
:lol: :lol: "Dude, you need your glands expressed. That's why Journey never hired you." :lol:
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