verslibre wrote:YoungJRNYfan wrote:I wasn't arguing against the execution of the neck snap but rather the ethics of what the dude wrote in the middle of his rant pertaining to something else.
Though, I even admitted numerous times how one of MoS's and Zack's biggest mistakes was not the neck snap itself, but the lack of follow-up and reaction to that climax. There should have been a 15-20 minute sequence immediately after. That would have fixed a lot of the issues people and especially fans had with the abrupt action of such an ending but it never came. That's just how Zack operates as a director. He lets those open ended scenes sit there and marinate rather than spending enough time on the message. He basks in that type of controversial descisons and allows the audience to decifer what he was saying for themselves.
That's what I like about his style: no spoon-feeding. That's all Marvel does. They're ham-fisted to the point you get nauseous waiting for them to move to the next plot point.
"Spoon feeding" is not the point I was making - at all. Did you watch Krypton? So, you have Lyta-Zod who you are seeing in a relationship with Seg-El. You see her being both vulnerable and empathetic. You relate to her and see and feel her pain as she is being punished for having those traits - by her own mother. Then she is in a fight and a guy pleads for mercy and she breaks the guy's neck instead, and repeats the words that she was told by her own mother, "we never ask for mercy."
At that point, we are reminded she is a Zod at heart. Maybe she isn't the best match for Seg. Maybe she isn't she isn't so deserving of empathy. It is a complete turn around from what we were shown of her character before. That is the same type of turn that we are supposed to feel for Superman when he breaks Zod's neck. But, the audience doesn't feel the turn, only the shock value, because there was no build up of that type of relationship with Superman where we related to him in the same way as Lyta-Zod. The only argument that is there is that Zod deserved to die. So what? Shock value - that is all.
It has nothing to do with what follows, it has to do with what comes before. It is not about being "spoon fed" so you know what is coming next. It is telling the story in a dramatic way and developing characters and story. MOS did not do that when it came to the neck snap - at all.
And, BTW, the entire neck snap thing isn't such a big deal to me. I don't care that Superman "killed". IMO, the entire topic has become way over stated and argued about. I simply believe it's a lazy writing in an over-all good movie.
