Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

[YoungJRNYfan]

[verslibre]

And, again, most people don't even know what ComiCon is let alone who is premiering what.

I can't. I just...




....I can't

I know, right?

[RedWingFan]

http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/henry-c ... future-507
Shouldn't somebody be asking TNC if he wants his winnings in cash, check or money order. Lol

MAN OF STEEL may have launched the new DC Cinematic Universe, but at the moment there's no plan for the character to take center stage in another solo Superman film any time soon.The upcoming BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE may have started life as MAN OF STEEL 2, but according to Henry Cavill the new film "is not a Superman sequel, it’s more of an introduction to Batman, an opening to Justice League, and an expansion of the world that was created in Man of Steel.” Henry Cavill spoke with Entertainment Weekly about the possibility of individual Superman sequels but added his belief that Superman is a bit of a harder sell when compared to a guy who dresses up as a bat.
There’s plenty of time for individual Superman sequels, he’s a tough character to tell. People like the darker vigilante. I think it speaks to the human psyche more easily rather than the god-like being that we can’t really understand. Once we have a more expansive universe we can delve more into the character of Superman and hopefully tell more stories.
The DC Cinematic Universe is said to be "darker and grittier" than its Marvel counterpart, but I think DC can learn a lesson from Marvel in this case. Superman is frequently labeled as a "tough sell" in a market that demands their characters to be dark and flawed, but Marvel was able to take a chronic do-gooder like Captain America and turn him into one of their most compelling characters, all without sacrificing what makes him good. I've got no problem with a dark and gritty Superman film, just don't let your title character become an overpowered Batman in a slightly more colourful outfit.
While a solo Superman flick isn't in the books at the moment, it's not like the character will be getting shoved to the side; in addition to BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE, the character (and actor) will be appearing in JUSTICE LEAGUE: PART ONE in 2017 and JUSTICE LEAGUE: PART TWO in 2019

[verslibre]

That article is a regurgitation. Original source(s): Entertainment Weekly, ComicBookMovie, Yahoo, etc.

Nowhere has it been said "Warner cancels Man of Steel 2; Plastic Man movie to fill the void."

Next.

[RedWingFan]

That article is a regurgitation. Original source(s): Entertainment Weekly, ComicBookMovie, Yahoo, etc.

Nowhere has it been said "Warner cancels Man of Steel 2; Plastic Man movie to fill the void."

Next.

No. To reword it as you have it would read. "Warner cancels Man of Steel2; BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE movie to fill the void. No Man of Steel sequel currently planned."

Which is really weird considering the huge success that Man of Steel was. lol.
Just man up and pay the man!!!

[verslibre]

The Superman actor promises expansion of world created in ‘Man of Steel'

“There’s plenty of time for individual Superman sequels,” the actor says. “He’s a tough character to tell. People like the darker vigilante. I think it speaks to the human psyche more easily rather than the god-like being that we can’t really understand. Once we have a more expansive universe we can delve more into the character of Superman and tell more stories.”

[YoungJRNYfan]

Cavill's words lines up with DC's movie slate they announced as apart of their film division. I know the bold option is used for selective reading, but in the midst of all that text, Cavill also said that there's "..plenty of time for individual Superman sequels." The author who wrote that article (who only puts his own words and spin on the article and puts assumption on words) mentions at the end there that Cavill will appear as Superman in Batman V Superman; Justice League: Part 1 and Justice League: Part 2. By that time, Superman's story arc in this universe will be heavily fleshed out, allowing them to focus on Superman's next solo film down the line, which will probably include Brainiac or Metallo, as told by Zack Snyder in recent interviews.

Like I said above, that lines up with DC's slate of superhero movies, which includes untitled and unannounced dates for both a Batman AND Superman solo's film's. First, though, they are going to get the Wonder Woman's, the Aquaman's and the Justice League movies out of the gates (something many fans accused DC for dragging their feet on in the past) first before inserting Superman and Batman's next solo outings, which will come before 2020; probably after Justice League: Part 1. Is that anytime soon? No, but once characters like Wonder Woman and Aquaman have their outings, it'll be time for another Cavill and Affleck led Superman and Batman movie, respectfully.


New Batman and Superman Solo Movies Coming Before 2020

However, the press release also says this. “Warner Bros. Pictures and New Line Cinema will release a slate of at least 10 movies—as well as stand-alone Batman and Superman films—from 2016 through 2020 that expands this prized universe of characters.”

So in that time frame, if things go according to plan, not only are we getting the ten movies mentioned above, but new Batman and Superman solo movies too.

http://www.slashfilm.com/new-batman-mov ... rman-2020/

Regardless of how "anytime soon" is defined, nothing has changed. Everything that has been said so far in these recent interviews are nothing new.

[verslibre]

"Man up."

[The_Noble_Cause]

That article is a regurgitation. Original source(s): Entertainment Weekly, ComicBookMovie, Yahoo, etc.

Nowhere has it been said "Warner cancels Man of Steel 2; Plastic Man movie to fill the void."

Next.

No. To reword it as you have it would read. "Warner cancels Man of Steel2; BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE movie to fill the void. No Man of Steel sequel currently planned."

Which is really weird considering the huge success that Man of Steel was. lol.
Just man up and pay the man!!!

Cavill’s non-denial denial reminds me of a certain carefully worded 2006 Journey press release: “Augeri's doctor will monitor his condition to determine when he may be able to rejoin the tour.”

In other words, don’t hold your breath.

And yes, as with the false promise of a stand-alone Man of Steel 2, there were actually fans holding out hope that JSS would cede the microphone back to Augeri. But it was a done deal, and those not blinded by fandom could clearly see that. In some twisted way, Verslibre and YoungJrnyFan remind me of apocalyptic cult members. Each year, after they donate their earthly possessions and cash-in their insurance policies, they find themselves stranded on bus station Earth as the mothership comet incinerates overhead in the atmosphere. Only problem with cult members is, no matter how hard you try to talk logically to them, they stick to dogma. So Verslibre and YoungJrnyFan can keep their money. In a few more years, they will likely be donating every cent they have to a fan-made GoFundMe page for Man of Steel 2 (or in their view, tithings to the holy DC empire).

[verslibre]

This Island Earth 2: Bus Station Earth

Novelization by Dean Kuntz.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Lmao.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Seeing Terminator 5 in an hour. If it's at least better than Salvation, I can live with that...

[YoungJRNYfan]

The Con is upon us:

[YoungJRNYfan]

Famous Superman writer Dan Jurgens ('Death of Superman') says 'Man of Steel' handled Zod death correctly

Legendary Superman comic book writer/artist Dan Jurgens, who is best known for The Death Of Superman, says that he felt that Man of Steel handled General Zod's death better than the comic books. In an interview with Comicosity, Jurgens says: "It was hugely controversial and I think if the Internet had existed at that time, it would have been that times three. I always thought that if Superman was going to be put in that position, that it had to be a more immediate threat. It didn't bother me so much, Superman killing the Kryptonians, as it was him being just a stone-cold executioner. If you think of that cover -- there's a green cover and I think it was Superman itself where he's actually wearing the hood like an executioner would wear. That was, to me, the problem. If you wanted to have Superman kill the Kryptonians, I think it had to be a situation where innocent life was in immediate peril and the only way to stop them from taking innocent life was to kill them. At that point, Superman makes the same decision, but he's much more Superman as part of that. And the funny thing is, everybody gets twisted in knots over of that scene in the movie -- yet that's what Superman did. When Superman kills Zod in the movie, it's because there are human beings there who are in immediate danger. The problem with the comic book was, I always thought, not that Superman did it as it was the way he did it, because he was judge, jury and executioner right there. And it was a police officer walking right up to an individual who had dropped his gun, dropped his knife, said 'I surrender,' waved the white flag...and still blowing his head off. That's basically what it was."

[YoungJRNYfan]

[verslibre]

That's going to be a badass exhibit. The panel's days away.

[The_Noble_Cause]

And, again, most people don't even know what ComiCon is let alone who is premiering what.

I literally laughed aloud when I read this. I don't which remote corner of backwater USA you reside in, but I'm surprised you have access to the Internet over there. You've no idea how wrong you are. The San Diego Comic Con, aka SDCC, is forever ingrained in the bedrock of pop culture as of years ago. When major news networks cover it, when you hear it referenced by Letterman and Jon Stewart, when Metallica chooses to stage a concert in the Gas Lamp Quarter the week of SDCC, when freakin' Conan O'Brien is going to do a bunch of shows this week in San Diego during Comic Con...yeah, more people know of it than you think. People from as far away as Oz and Japan come to this thing. Downtown San Diego is transformed into a geek mecca. Events in the Gas Lamp and across town take place concurrently (some of it actually irks the Con organizers, because they attract people who weren't able to get into the main event). San Diego has been trying to keep SDCC from leaving for another city because the week of the event is the single biggest revenue draw of a twelve-month cycle for the city. I could go on, but you have a number of search engines at your fingertips. Use 'em.

ComicCon has definitely grown in influence over the years. No denying that. In part, this is owed to Marvel mainstreaming what were previously niche geek properties. I would agree with Monker and say that 9 out of 10 people you ask on the street have probably have never heard of it.

[verslibre]

SDCC's presence loomed large long before 2008, when Iron Man appeared. The second largest event of its kind [edit: in North America] is now the New York con, and it owes a debt to its attendance by appealing to people who might not be able to get to San Diego. Its growth has actually pissed off a lot of people who don't like the space and attention the movie studios are getting. People camp out all day and all night on the lawn between the Convention Center and the Omni just to get into Hall H (only accessible as its own venue from the outside, not the CC). I haven't been down there since 2012, myself, but I know it gets worse every year. Ballroom 20 (where they host the TV shows) is just as bad.

I've no doubt I could find many streets in retirement communities or less friendly looking areas where 9 out of 10 people don't know what SDCC, but how many people are going to know who Neal Schon is nowadays? Or Steve Perry?

"Why, Steve! I haven't seen him in years! We used to mix paint together down at the ol' Ace Lumber!"

[verslibre]

Seeing Terminator 5 in an hour. If it's at least better than Salvation, I can live with that...

I guess it's not that hot, eh?

[YoungJRNYfan]

My collection will grow:

[YoungJRNYfan]

[verslibre]

[The_Noble_Cause]

SDCC's presence loomed large long before 2008, when Iron Man appeared.

Iron Man was the first film financed by Marvel. However, the influence of ComicCon grew in correlation to hit adaptions of Marvel properties like Singer's X-Men and like Raimi's Spiderman.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Seeing Terminator 5 in an hour. If it's at least better than Salvation, I can live with that...

I guess it's not that hot, eh?

Eh, I think if fans look past Arnold's return and be honest with themselves, Genysis is pretty much equal to Salvation. Some stuff in Genysis really impressed me. But there was also alot of cheese. I had a good time with it, but it is a definite B movie. Catch a matinee and lower your expectations to zero.

[verslibre]

Seeing Terminator 5 in an hour. If it's at least better than Salvation, I can live with that...

I guess it's not that hot, eh?

Eh, I think if fans look past Arnold's return and be honest with themselves, Genysis is pretty much equal to Salvation. Some stuff in Genysis really impressed me. But there was also alot of cheese. I had a good time with it, but it is a definite B movie. Catch a matinee and lower your expectations to zero.

I'll wait for FX or AMC to show it. I hate the recycling of hallmark dialogue. I was done with that franchise after the third one. Then I caught Salvation on TV and while it wasn't the worst movie, it wasn't much better than some of those SyFy originals. It just had a bigger budget, and Bale and Bloodgood. This new movie looks like too much like a retread. I read some reviews that ripped it to shreds, and some that were slightly less scathing.

[verslibre]

SDCC's presence loomed large long before 2008, when Iron Man appeared.

Iron Man was the first film financed by Marvel. However, the influence of ComicCon grew in correlation to hit adaptions of Marvel properties like Singer's X-Men and like Raimi's Spiderman.

Before that, even. It rhymes with "Frank" and "Miller."

"Alan" and "Moore," too.

[verslibre]

[Monker]

"It's a perfectly acceptable catalyst for Batman to show up and see what caused the destruction and why members of his company fell victim to the chaos."

"No, he does know about it, which is why he's coming to confront this new 'alien god' and all that jazz."

Make up your mind. Either he knows these things, or he doesn't. Either way, it's a dumb-ass premise for a movie.

You need to reset the electrodes on your neck, Frankie. Those statements don't cancel each other out. They don't contradict each other.

Here, maybe this will help you out

That quote had nothing to do with whether Batman knew what was going on, or not. Either he used his wonderful toys and knows what went down, or is really an idiot in disguise and had to go find out for himself. Or, he could have just rented the VHS of MOS and put in the tape and watched it for himself to find out why Superman did what he did. That is assuming he is smart enough to actually understand what is going on in the movie and has a VCR player and knows how to use it.

Blah. When Bucky becomes Cap, it'll be at the tail end of a movie (denouement), when he dons the suit and they call "Cut!" Then he'll have his own movie. They may do the same for Arno Stark, but RDJ hasn't announced he's stepping down from milking that phat Marvel cash cow.

That makes no sense. They need to set Bucky up for Avengers 3. As far as I know, there is no CA4 movie planned before the Infinity War. So, CA dies, and Bucky becomes his own hero.

I don't see how they can fit in a new Iron Man in the current story, at least prior to the Infinity War.

As for being shot...it doesn't matter. Captain America will die. How it happens is irrelevent.

Is that so? I'm glad you're not doctoring the script. We'd probably see Steve get depressed over Peggy all over again and down a bunch of pills.

Be real. CA must die....but he doesn't have to die in the same way as in the comic. You can make up all kinds of crap to belittle that fact, but it's still a fact.

Those are the people who BOTH Marvel and DC need to capture to have these huge ticket sales. Marvel has done that. DC has yet to prove they can beyond TDK.

Not worried about it. The Trinity is nearly here.

All that proves is you are a daydreamer who doesn't like the reality that DC hasn't really proved anything.

And, again, most people don't even know what ComiCon is let alone who is premiering what.

I literally laughed aloud when I read this. I don't which remote corner of backwater USA you reside in, but I'm surprised you have access to the Internet over there. You've no idea how wrong you are. The San Diego Comic Con, aka SDCC, is forever ingrained in the bedrock of pop culture as of years ago. When major news networks cover it, when you hear it referenced by Letterman and Jon Stewart, when Metallica chooses to stage a concert in the Gas Lamp Quarter the week of SDCC, when freakin' Conan O'Brien is going to do a bunch of shows this week in San Diego during Comic Con...yeah, more people know of it than you think. People from as far away as Oz and Japan come to this thing. Downtown San Diego is transformed into a geek mecca. Events in the Gas Lamp and across town take place concurrently (some of it actually irks the Con organizers, because they attract people who weren't able to get into the main event). San Diego has been trying to keep SDCC from leaving for another city because the week of the event is the single biggest revenue draw of a twelve-month cycle for the city. I could go on, but you have a number of search engines at your fingertips. Use 'em.

It's funny how all of that can be true but most people in this country don't know what it is.

Nope, a lot of people think Rises didn't quite meet the line TDK set. Rises is the most ambitious of the three movies, but it's the most flawed. The Dark Knight is regarded as the overall best of the trilogy by most, though many people (just not as many) prefer Begins.

...but neither were even close to the Joker...and he took that movie to a special place.

And there you go.

Whatever, I got the titles mixed up.

Overstating the obvious. Nobody said this Batman is the same as Nolan's. Because he isn't. Heck, he's older. Yes, this is all reboot territory. Man of Steel was the inaugural event. The new DCCU begins there.

Again with the stupid Batfleck crap. it's not a TDK movie. It's a reboot. It doesn't matter who is playing Batman. MOS doesn't matter. the DCCU doesn't matter. it's not TDK, it's a reboot.

[quote[No, I showed which character is the T&A queen, thanks to Marvel. That nice close-up of her ass that Whedon gave you in Avengers? Yeah. That's right. ScarJo is T&A girl. That's why I wrote what I wrote (read it again), and posted the pix. [/quote]

You are being so ridiculous.

You wrote what you wrote because I manipulated you into writing it. I made the T&A statement KNOWING you would go after Black Widow and compare. And, wow, did you ever do that. A full page spread of pics and all. And, you are STILL going at it! Too funny.

The bottom line is in your screwed up way of thinking, you don't want to admit that WW is there to show skin and get more guys into the seats. So, instead of admitting that, you project those thoughts on Black Widow.

So, yes, your reaction PROVES my point. YOU proved it. You are STILL proving it. For even more proof, go back to when Gal Gadot was selected and you two were drooling over the Cardassian's pics.

You are just so afraid of admitting that point that you psychologically project your thoughts and feeling about WW onto Black Widow. That's exactly what is going on - and the more you talk about Black Widow, the more you prove the point.

Second I read an interview with Kevin Fiege where he said Black Panther and Captain Marvel were selected based on fan input and how well they fit into what they had already done and had planned.

Don't believe everything you hear. Feige is a channel for Marvel Entertainment's film division through which everything is filtered.

Perhaps you should take your own advice. You post quote after quote from Snyder and other directors, and even actors....and you take their propaganda as fact. And, these are underlings of someone in Feighe's position. Feige gives the Marvel Universe direction and keeps everything moving in a focused way. Everybody knows that.

The bottom line is you can do a Google search and find references to Captain Marvel and Black Panther being demanded by fans all the back to early 2014. That is a fact that anybody can check. The fans were demanding it whether you like that fact, or not.

[verslibre]

Conan Hits Comic-Con® Mad Max-Style - CONAN on TBS

That intro.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M5KE44xluo#t=171

[The_Noble_Cause]

SDCC's presence loomed large long before 2008, when Iron Man appeared.

Iron Man was the first film financed by Marvel. However, the influence of ComicCon grew in correlation to hit adaptions of Marvel properties like Singer's X-Men and like Raimi's Spiderman.

Before that, even. It rhymes with "Frank" and "Miller."

"Alan" and "Moore," too.

Sin City the film was a hit. But I don't think that movie, or the adaption of Watchmen really helped Comicon go mainstream the way it is now.