Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

[Rip Rokken]

MYGOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean ZOD!!!!!!!!!

I love that Bruce Wayne sees the destruction of Wayne Tower (or Wayne Financial) during the battle between Supes and Zod. That first shot, you can see the heat vision ripping thru the building, and as it crashes, there is a streak as one of them flies out. Very cool.

[verslibre]

The glimpse of WW in action...fuqqin' A!

Yeah, I assume that's Jason Todd's suit in there.

I also like the nod to Miller's TDK cover (I posted the GIF). Beautiful.

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[Monker]

I have been playing through Arkham Knight and this scene came up....too funny.

http://youtu.be/JldMIRx3w-4

[Rip Rokken]

Damn.... great catch! I didn't notice that....

[YoungJRNYfan]

MYGOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I mean ZOD!!!!!!!!!

I love that Bruce Wayne sees the destruction of Wayne Tower (or Wayne Financial) during the battle between Supes and Zod. That first shot, you can see the heat vision ripping thru the building, and as it crashes, there is a streak as one of them flies out. Very cool.

Ben is freakin' MONEY as Bruce. I think my favorite part of the trailer was as you mentioned with Bruce on the streets during the battle and seeing the heat-vision blasting through the buildings. At that point, there was nothing Bruce could do but you still see the hero emerge in him when sprinting into the 9-11-like dust cloud. Nice touch and a character development moment with bystanders running away but Bruce going in.

Loved the shot of a cold and pale General Zod in a body bag.

Great to see Cavill's Clark Kent not be a pushover and pushing the issue with Perry White about the vigilante. Nice angle being played up right there. In all of this, they are stopping short of Superman's words and playing up him having issue's with how the world views him. It's conflicting and he's lookin' PISSED. I can't wait to hear his dialogue and his side of the story standing before our Senate.

The end had me trippin', though. Ripping open the Batmobile doors and feeling the heaviness of the metal smash on the concrete. Batman slowly standing up for a faceoff had me roarin'.

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[verslibre]

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[The_Noble_Cause]

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Based on a trailer? This guy needs to get a grip. MOS also had a great trailer.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Larry Fong (Snyder's personal cinematographer for most of his films) wasn't apart of Man of Steel because he was tied down to another project and filming a different movie at the time so Snyder didn't have him. Man of Steel looked beautiful but Fong is the real deal and could have made it look 10X better and it shows in BvS. Man of Steel wasn't a perfect film by any means, it was heavily flawed actually but it was still an above average film (I think it's great but realize what they could have done better.)

The knock on Man of Steel was mainly Goyer, dialogue and the screenplay. Man of Steel had the potential to be what we are about to get with BvS and the future DC films. I'm glad they are correcting their mistakes and sticking to what more-than worked. It's a good formula for the Universe to build on the mistakes and weakness's.

Snyder having Larry Fong back; Chris Terrio on board (let alone having a talent like Affleck around who knows his way behind a camera or two) DC/WB simply corrected themselves and that's a positive sign for the future of this DCCU,

[Monker]

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Based on a trailer? This guy needs to get a grip. MOS also had a great trailer.

I agree. This is a great trailer. 1000 times better than the first one. But, it's still just a trailer.

And, it really makes hypocrites out of some of the people in this forum who were critiquing Marvel for giving away too much, and DC avoids that. This trailer gave away FAR too much. They revealed things that should have been saved for the movie. Robin's suit, Bruce running BACK to the wreckage, etc. It gave up AT LEAST as much as any Marvel preview, and maybe more.

I just played through the Jason Todd bit in Arkham Knight. I was thinking this would have made such an excellent trilogy for Batman. But, the Joker they have now would never be able to play the part in the way the Joker is in the game. Jason Todd could have been the Winter Soldier of DC...but they won't do it.

It also wouldn't surprise me if they throw in the twist of Robin dying in the destruction of the Wayne building and that is why Batman is all pissy. Just because you see a Robin suit does not mean it's Jason Todd either.

[Monker]

you're trying way to hard, V.

The bottom line, WW is skin to sell tickets to boys. Even you admit to it below.

CA dying 2/3 of the way through the movie is not me writing the script. It is me understanding the type of classic story telling that Marvel is doing. I'll give you two examples from LotR.

In the Fellowship. when Borimir dies he passes on his "prince of Gondor" attributes to Aragorn. Borimir's death was the catalyst for Aragorn to return to Gondor and save his people and be their king. The first movie did not end with Borimir's death. It ended with Aragorn saying, "Let's hunt some orc."

In "Return of the King", when King Theoden dies, he passes his kingship on to Eowyn. The movie did not end with Theoden's death but with scenes of the future royalty of Rohan with Eowyn and Farimir getting cozy during Aragorn's coronation.

Getting shot in the head by a sniper may work to end a story in a comic...but not in cinema, and it is definitely not how Marvel has been telling their stories in cinema either.

^

That quote had nothing to do with whether Batman knew what was going on, or not. Either he used his wonderful toys and knows what went down, or is really an idiot in disguise and had to go find out for himself. Or, he could have just rented the VHS of MOS and put in the tape and watched it for himself to find out why Superman did what he did. That is assuming he is smart enough to actually understand what is going on in the movie and has a VCR player and knows how to use it.

"Sassy!"

You really do live in BFE. We've moved on to Blu-ray out here. You still have to graduate to regular DVD before you arrive at Blu-ray.

That makes no sense. They need to set Bucky up for Avengers 3. As far as I know, there is no CA4 movie planned before the Infinity War. So, CA dies, and Bucky becomes his own hero.

I didn't realize you were in the writers' room with the Russo guys. So you and the bros have decided that Bucky Barnes will be the new Cap in Infinity War. Good to know we have a legit MCU script jockey in the room.

I don't see how they can fit in a new Iron Man in the current story, at least prior to the Infinity War.

Nowhere did I say any Iron Man but Tony Stark would be in the Infinity War. I meant further down the road.

Be real. CA must die....but he doesn't have to die in the same way as in the comic. You can make up all kinds of crap to belittle that fact, but it's still a fact.

I wasn't. But you're the guy writing these movies now. Or so you'd like us to think.

All that proves is you are a daydreamer who doesn't like the reality that DC hasn't really proved anything.

Yeah, the two billion-dollar grossing Nolan-Batman movies prove they'll never do that kind of business again. Red pill, blue pill.

It's funny how all of that can be true but most people in this country don't know what it is.

Nobody in your little town where VCRs and 8-tracks are apparently still the viewing and listening media of choice.

(Or do you mean everybody at a Little Big Town concert? I'm sure there are some.)

Chew on this morsel: every single user out there with a Twitter account? They know what SDCC is. (Even if they don't care about it.) Let that sink in. Just Twitter.

Overstating the obvious. Nobody said this Batman is the same as Nolan's. Because he isn't. Heck, he's older. Yes, this is all reboot territory. Man of Steel was the inaugural event. The new DCCU begins there.

Again with the stupid Batfleck crap. it's not a TDK movie.

Nobody said it is.

It's a reboot. It doesn't matter who is playing Batman. MOS doesn't matter. the DCCU doesn't matter. it's not TDK, it's a reboot.

Oh, I get what you're flapping about. You mean BvS is the beginning of the shared universe, and MoS is irrelevant. Is that what you're getting twisted up over? Well, MoS IS the beginning of the new DCCU, because they said so. Not you. They.

You wrote what you wrote because I manipulated you into writing it.

"I manipulated you!" A trademark of the Cubicle Trooper. LOL. The only thing you manipulate is your right hand...unless you're a lefty...



Nah, you're just too easy to break down, Monksy.

The bottom line is in your screwed up way of thinking, you don't want to admit that WW is there to show skin and get more guys into the seats.

Oh, yeah. Think of how many units they're going to move (no pun intended) with the XXX parody. HAHA! Get it??!! "Units? Move?"

So, yes, your reaction PROVES my point. YOU proved it. You are STILL proving it. For even more proof, go back to when Gal Gadot was selected and you two were drooling over the Cardassian's* pics.

We've got the hair on our palms to prove it, too. (*Better than those Star Trek aliens you're jacking it to.)

You are just so afraid of admitting that point that you psychologically project your thoughts and feeling about WW onto Black Widow. That's exactly what is going on - and the more you talk about Black Widow, the more you prove the point.

You're so on the money. Dr. Giggles. The wisdom one can dispense from within the confines of their cubicle space...

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you're trying way to hard, V.

Says the guy who wears the "I'm right! You're all wrong!" cap to church every Sunday.

The examples from LotR are not necessary. All you're doing is assuming. Make as many assumptions as you like. I'm glad the BvS trailer cleared up the question of Bruce Wayne's motivations for you.

Enjoy the movie.

[verslibre]

I agree. This is a great trailer. 1000 times better than the first one. But, it's still just a trailer.

And, it really makes hypocrites out of some of the people in this forum who were critiquing Marvel for giving away too much, and DC avoids that. This trailer gave away FAR too much. They revealed things that should have been saved for the movie. Robin's suit, Bruce running BACK to the wreckage, etc. It gave up AT LEAST as much as any Marvel preview, and maybe more.

Ha. Yeah, right. Hypocrites, schmypocrites. Marvel gave away so much Age of Ultron footage beforehand, thanks to TV spots as well as trailers ("Witness the birth of...the Vision!"), they may as well have leaked Fury's deus ex machine Helicarrier rescue. You're just bent that Bruce shown running towards the wreckage nullifies your remarks about "it's stupid, either he knows or he doesn't."

The Ant-Man trailer gives away plenty of money shots. That's a movie I'm on the fence about seeing since the trailer didn't impress me as much as I thought it would/should. I think it's going to be another movie with that patently homogenized Marvel feel that has affected the Iron Man and Thor movies.

Cap 2 is one of the few times Marvel has gotten a trailer right. It showed you key elements without spoiling something major — like, say, the Hulk rescuing Iron Man (!!), and Magneto manipulating the Sentinels (!!!), which you knew was going to be the catalyst for the final act of Days of Future Past.

The BvS trailer gives you plenty to sink your teeth into, and that's roughly three minutes of an estimated 145-150 minute running time. However, don't take everything you see at face value. It's cut to suggestive a narrative flow, but it's obvious some things happen in a different order. with different complications and consequences. We got to see some incredible shots of Batman whupping ass, Wonder Woman slamming her gauntlets together (and damn, she looks furious), and Superman ripping the doors off the Batmobile. Too good.

Oh, yeah, let me update the trailer view count: 43,575,574 views.

I just played through the Jason Todd bit in Arkham Knight. I was thinking this would have made such an excellent trilogy for Batman. But, the Joker they have now would never be able to play the part in the way the Joker is in the game. Jason Todd could have been the Winter Soldier of DC...but they won't do it.

Actually, they can do whatever they want. That's the beauty of it. They don't have their properties locked up with FOUR different flippin' studios. They can use whoever, whenever.

It also wouldn't surprise me if they throw in the twist of Robin dying in the destruction of the Wayne building and that is why Batman is all pissy. Just because you see a Robin suit does not mean it's Jason Todd either.

It doesn't surprise me that you'd assume that.

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Based on a trailer? This guy needs to get a grip. MOS also had a great trailer.

IMO, it's a great movie. It's the reboot we needed after Superman Returns went down the wrong path.

By the way:

I watched a leak of the Deadpool trailer. That is a movie I will definitely go see. It's hilarious. The costume is accurate, and I do like R-rated takes on comics like the first Kick-Ass and Blade (first one only, the others sucked). Deadpool looks cool.

And on THAT note, the Suicide Squad looks awesome. That's another winner, right there. Can't wait to see a first proper HD trailer for that baby.

[verslibre]

Snyder having Larry Fong back; Chris Terrio on board (let alone having a talent like Affleck around who knows his way behind a camera or two) DC/WB simply corrected themselves and that's a positive sign for the future of this DCCU,

Fong's work is very apparent in the trailer. This is going to be a better-looking movie, period.

[YoungJRNYfan]

This trailer gave away FAR too much. They revealed things that should have been saved for the movie.

Wait, the last few months you were pissing on the teaser for not showing the "audience" enough meat on the bone for anyone to care about the movie or for us to ask enough question's as to why these two may have problems. We consistently said the first footage was a teaser and the full trailer that would eventually be released would show more shots to bring the audience in closer. You have to choose one side of the argument dude. No hedging

They revealed things that should have been saved for the movie. Robin's suit, Bruce running BACK to the wreckage, etc. It gave up AT LEAST as much as any Marvel preview, and maybe more.

You think this gives too much away? Watch Snyder's Comic-Con Q&A. We literally haven't seen anything. Just like what was expected. The events following Man of Steel and setting up a focal point in where the plot could be heading. It's what I was hoping to see and I'm glad it lined up with everything I've said in this thread up to this point.

If you seriously think them showing Bruce running into the disaster is spoilery and showing too much then don't pick up the recently released Entertainment Weekly issue. They literally have a picture of Snyder directing Affleck in that scene They wanted you to see that. It show's Bruce's heroism and his connection to Man of Steel and Metropolis.

They got some huge things up their sleeves. This movie could be their crown jewel and it's a significant one. We haven't see anything yet.

It also wouldn't surprise me if they throw in the twist of Robin dying in the destruction of the Wayne building and that is why Batman is all pissy. Just because you see a Robin suit does not mean it's Jason Todd either.

Bruce loses a lot in the destruction. Not only one of his Finance business's or his employee's, but possibly more. I don't think it's as cut and dry as you predict. If you notice, the Joker haunts Batman and he was heavily influenced in the trailer. More than I thought he would be, actually, just like how Superman was heavily name-dropped in Suicide Squads trailer. Can't wait for that bad boy either!

[YoungJRNYfan]

Elseworlds Justice Society of America Batman:

[RedWingFan]

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Based on a trailer? This guy needs to get a grip. MOS also had a great trailer.

Yup. So did SM3 with the great shots of Sandman and Venom. Trailer looked really good but telling soooo much story in 2+ hours in a quality way? Now this is what I'm really looking forward to.http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/ ... /?a=122733
Here is a zoomed and cropped version.Leaked Deadpool Comicon Trailer (Cropped + Zoomed): https://youtu.be/K-zNGcmZ-zs

[verslibre]

Spider-Man 3 was doomed from the start because Venom is a character who, like Green Goblin and Doc Ock, requires his own movie.

Then Amazing Spider-Man 2 went and put BOTH Electro and Green Goblin V2.0 in one movie...and topped it off with the Rhino.

"Hey, guys, how about a reboot...again?"

[RedWingFan]

Spider-Man 3 was doomed from the start because Venom is a character who, like Green Goblin and Doc Ock, requires his own movie.

Then Amazing Spider-Man 2 went and put BOTH Electro and Green Goblin V2.0 in one movie...and topped it off with the Rhino.

"Hey, guys, how about a reboot...again?"

Sony Pictures sucks, the suits there forced Raimi to shove Venom in there at the peril of the rest of the storyline. DC is going down the same road here shoving WW and Aquaman and supposedly another bad guy. Nobody in the story are going to have room to breathe.

[YoungJRNYfan]

The term "shoving" doesn't always have to be a derogatory way of introducing characters as long as the story arc fits its place and fits well. If it's all random for the sacred act of randomness, then "shoving" can be playing devil's advocate. Fortunately, we know Diana plays an important role and we know there's already a commitment to not only her, but two Justice League films. Just because there's characters introduced doesn't always mean things will be crammed. A good writer and screenplay can do wonders and DC has a honcho in Chris Terrio to give us that thrill ride done right.

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Yeah, it wasn't the same situation. Not at all.

The problem with SM3 is that the script was done. Raimi was ready to go. Then the studio honcho (his initials are "AA") stepped in and went "The fans want Venom. You need to put Venom in there." "But the story's done...Venom can be in the next movie." "No. Venom has to be in THIS movie. So put him in it."

(And I heard this many years ago, in the audience at Hall H, from the mouth of an authorized source. That's for you, Monker.)

And that's what happened. Which is why that version of Venom sucked, because the story wasn't developed properly. Then there was studio pressure to get it going, because it was a profitable franchise. WB has not laid that kind of pressure on Zack. They're behind him all the way. Shit, Chris and Zack have written Justice League. That won't start shooting for a while, so there's plenty of time for feedback and tweaks.

BvS was planned from the ground up to feature Superman and Batman. The villains are Lex and an as-yet-unnamed threat. Wonder Woman has a smaller but pivotal role. Aquaman and Cyborg will have cameos. That's it.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Bruce has been watching:

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^I guess Bruce does have a VCR.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Suicide looks damn good. Wouldn't expect anything less from Ayer. Only weak link is Leto's Joker. Deadpool looks good, but Reynolds needs to do more than up the smarm factor Van Wilder style. The leaked trailer has one liners that don't land and zingers that don't zing imo.

[verslibre]

Suicide looks damn good. Wouldn't expect anything less from Ayer. Only weak link is Leto's Joker. Deadpool looks good, but Reynolds needs to do more than up the smarm factor Van Wilder style. The leaked trailer has one liners that don't land and zingers that don't zing imo.

That's pretty much what Deadpool will be. It looks like a fun romp, the kind you disconnect for. He slings barbs and quips while he decapitates and impales. "Lethal Van Wilder," indeed!

Suicide Squad has a hell of a teaser. Almost a trailer.

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Say, what's that in the background?

[verslibre]

The Suicide Squad teaser-trailer has been posted.

“Warner Bros. Pictures and our anti-piracy team have worked tirelessly over the last 48 hours to contain the Suicide Squad footage that was pirated from Hall H on Saturday. We have been unable to achieve that goal. Today we will release the same footage that has been illegally circulating on the web, in the form it was created and high quality with which it was intended to be enjoyed. We regret this decision as it was our intention to keep the footage as a unique experience for the Comic Con crowd, but we cannot continue to allow the film to be represented by the poor quality of the pirated footage stolen from our presentation.”

This looks fuckin' great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnYkkyZATmU