OFFICIAL 2012-2013 NFL Thread

[Don]

Kaepernick is fun to watch... but I think the Niners are gonna have a RGIII moment with him.

Or a Randall Cunningham moment.

Not sure what you mean..

First game of 1991 season, blown ACL. Never was able to run the same way again and began getting nagging injuries every season after. Tall, with a rocket arm and able to outrun linebackers, just like Collin.

[Liam]

Cunningham was with the Sheagles, though. That just curses ya right there.

[slucero]

Kaepernick is fun to watch... but I think the Niners are gonna have a RGIII moment with him.

Or a Randall Cunningham moment.

Not sure what you mean..

First game of 1991 season, blown ACL. Never was able to run the same way again and began getting nagging injuries every season after. Tall, with a rocket arm and able to outrun linebackers, just like Collin.

Ahhh yup... Randall could run until he couldn't. Niners are gonna be fucked if Kaep gets hurt..

[No Surprize]

Kaep picks his spots to run and is stronger than RC ever was. San Fran will be fine and is my pick right now to win next years Super Bowl. By the way,

did you just see the deal the Ravens gave Flacco? Now they are stuck with this over rated, throw it up for grabs and see who comes down with it lucky

sob.

[Enigma869]

By the way, did you just see the deal the Ravens gave Flacco? Now they are stuck with this over rated, throw it up for grabs and see who comes down with it lucky sob.

I saw the deal and it's about as dumb as ANY deal I've ever seen in any sport. Listen, kudos to Flacco for winning a Super Bowl. That said, Trent Dilfer also won a Super Bowl. Making Flacco the highest paid player in the history of the NFL (which is what just happened) is about as moronic as it gets.

[slucero]

By the way, did you just see the deal the Ravens gave Flacco? Now they are stuck with this over rated, throw it up for grabs and see who comes down with it lucky sob.

I saw the deal and it's about as dumb as ANY deal I've ever seen in any sport. Listen, kudos to Flacco for winning a Super Bowl. That said, Trent Dilfer also won a Super Bowl. Making Flacco the highest paid player in the history of the NFL (which is what just happened) is about as moronic as it gets.

No worries.. someone else will always get more...

[Enigma869]

No worries.. someone else will always get more...

You're absolutely correct. The next guy to sign will get more. That said, Flacco is NOT a $20 million dollar per year player. Listen...I'm even willing to concede that he's probably a bit better than many of us give him credit for. But, he certainly isn't close to the best player in the NFL and probably wouldn't even make my top 5 QB's who are currently playing in the league!

[slucero]

No worries.. someone else will always get more...

You're absolutely correct. The next guy to sign will get more. That said, Flacco is NOT a $20 million dollar per year player. Listen...I'm even willing to concede that he's probably a bit better than many of us give him credit for. But, he certainly isn't close to the best player in the NFL and probably wouldn't even make my top 5 QB's who are currently playing in the league!

true... but he's getting paid for the SB win, and because he would have been a free agent. I bet the owners share of the SB revenue makes that 120M look like pocket change

[AR]

No worries.. someone else will always get more...

You're absolutely correct. The next guy to sign will get more. That said, Flacco is NOT a $20 million dollar per year player. Listen...I'm even willing to concede that he's probably a bit better than many of us give him credit for. But, he certainly isn't close to the best player in the NFL and probably wouldn't even make my top 5 QB's who are currently playing in the league!

He is a $20 million dollar a year player. That's his salary.

Flacco was offered 16 million last off season and turned it down. He bet on himself on won. Kudos to him.

[YoungJRNY]

If 120 million and the highest paid player in the HISTORY of the NFL is turning in 20 TD, 10 interception seasons with a mediocre career average 60% completion percentages, then by all means Baltimore, pay up, He's going to have to elevate his game to extreme consistency and outrageous domination to see anywhere near that type of money for the longterm effect and something tells me this dude isn't going to play anywhere near that worth.

He hasn't even thrown 30 TD's in his career yet and he all of a sudden has a higher salary than Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees. Hell, Roethlisberger missed 3 games this season in a transition offensive year in a new dink and dunk offense and he still threw 1 TD more than Flacco in 2012.

I don't mind it. Dude won the lottery at the perfect time with the oddest bets and WON. Baltimore has no other choice than to be stuck with him. I'm glad. Joe Flacco doesn't show the same good or bad Joe Flacco on a week to week basis. I'd rather play QB's like Tony Romo or Joe Flacco anyday of the week than say, Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers. Flacco is a good QB. He's shown he can put balls in places to give his wideout a chance to fight for it. He's good but nowhere near the best. I'd put him about 8th or 9th on the top 10 QB's in the league.

The only thing that he does give Balty is durability. He hasn't missed 1 game in his career yet. That's something I wish my QB can give us. Hell, a 14 game season would be nice

[AR]

The thing with Flacco they are counting on is that stretch began in the regular season against the Giants. It wasn't just the playoffs. Caldwell took the chains off him. They are banking on that continuing.

The Ravens had no choice on this one. To be the only team to let 2 Super Bowl winning QB's go the next season (not the Dilfer was any loss) would be beyond embarrassing.

To Flacco and his agent's credit, they got this done quick, avoided the franchise tag, and now the Ravens are already talking to their other unrestricted free agents.

It's a lot of money, but just wait for the next QB up to get paid. In a year or two if the cap does rise a bit, this may not seem like that huge a contract.

[AR]

Check this out. This is an upclose picture of one of the replica Lombardi trophies I ordered. Someone else's but the exact same thing. This one is Super Bowl XXXV



The place that does them will do one for any Super Bowl.

[Liam]

From '92



'71 is on its way. Thanks to Ed for the tip.

[No Surprize]

Now his best & only receiver is a 49er. Unbelievable that the Ravens organization feels he wasn't worth the money. Hell, he single-handly won

the playoffs & super bowl, catching the floating ducks that Flacco put up for grabs. Who do they have? Torry Smith? Is he the man now? No way

in hell it's Jacoby Jones, he flat out sucks and the only half ay decent thing he does is return kicks. Even when doing that he's a fumble just waiting

to happen. 49ers get Boldin. Seachickens get Harvin. NFC West just got better!

[AR]

Now his best & only receiver is a 49er. Unbelievable that the Ravens organization feels he wasn't worth the money. Hell, he single-handly won

the playoffs & super bowl, catching the floating ducks that Flacco put up for grabs. Who do they have? Torry Smith? Is he the man now? No way

in hell it's Jacoby Jones, he flat out sucks and the only half ay decent thing he does is return kicks. Even when doing that he's a fumble just waiting

to happen. 49ers get Boldin. Seachickens get Harvin. NFC West just got better!

Ozzie Newsome will have other WR's on the roster before it is all said and done. Many months of work ahead.

I love Boldin, but he was a 6 million dollar cap hit. (Almost the same number as Flacco for 2013). That's a good bit of money for a 33 year old possession receiver. While I'm not thrilled with the move, I understand it.

[mikemarrs]

The Ravens will be not only losing Ray Lewis and Birk to retirement but they also have already lost Boldin and will most likely lose Kruger and possibly Reed also.I think i saw where Mckinnie was also saying no hometown discount.However like you said they have the best GM in the league in Ozzie Newsome so i don't doubt with a few draft picks that pan out they won't be too much of a drop off.But i will say i think next season they might drop a bit in the standings say 9-7 or around that mark.Pittsburgh is also in the middle of a cap crunch and they will be losing Mike Wallace and Rashard Mendenhall on offense.Now there are reports Harrison on the defense will be leaving due to not getting his full salary.There were a few other Steelers who restructured their contracts and he could've did the same.I think they could be right around the same record as Baltimore.I could be wrong but it looks like the Bengals could be on top of the division this coming season they have done an excellent job drafting and came out great in the Palmer trade.They have made the playoffs two straight years and they are only getting better.As far as Cleveland goes they have a new owner who is serious about turning them into a winner and they have new coaching and GM also from Philly so time will tell.As far as the season coming i think the Browns will still be in the cellar but they will be much better i'll say i could see them going 7-9.

[mikemarrs]

Well once not too long ago the NFC west was so mediocre they had a 7-9 team win the division and make the postseason.Now it looks like the west could be the best division in the league next season or close to it.The 49ers just picked up Boldin now there are rumors that Ed Reed might go there too.The 49ers are picking up more talent on both sides of the ball and own a boatload of draft picks so they are in the driver seat.I think Seattle will be very close behind the 49ers they just added a dynamic player Percy Harvin to an already dangerous offense.Russell Wilson will have an extra weapon on offense and the defense was pretty good including rookie Richard Sherman who will only get better as time passes.I could see the Niners and Seahawks battling for the division up until the final weeks not to mention when those two play it will be exciting to watch.The Rams led by Jeff Fisher made improvements last year to hit .500 and won plus tied the 49ers in two division games not to mention the Rams have many draft picks for giving up the pick to the Reskins that neeted them RGIII.Don't count Fisher out he can build a winner in no time and have them contending before you know it.I see them possibly hitting the 9-7 mark or close to it.There are rumors if the Raiders let Palmer go the Cardinals will pick him up.Bottom line is Arizona although they have the best wide receiver in the game they have one of the worst QB situations in the entire league.Adrian Wilson and Beanie Wells were just let go along with Stephens Howlings.I see the Cardinals right back in the bottom of the standings in the division this upcoming season.

[mikemarrs]

As far the entire league goes i'll make a few early predictions for next season.I think the New Orleans Saints will be right back in the mix as one of the better teams especially since they have Coach Sean Payton coming back and they will challenge Atlanta for the division in the NFC south.I do think the Broncos will most likely pick up Freeny or someone similar if Dumervil doesn't get to stay due to contract demands and they will also be right back near the top in the AFC.I do see Kansas City improving with Alex Smith throwing to Dewayne Bowe who they wisely locked up for a few more years and the defense getting better and i could see Smith getting better at QB because new coach Andy Reid is very good at getting the most out of his QB's.Things will be looking better after many years of suffering in KC i could see them having a 9-7 or so season which would be the first time in many seasons they had a winning season.I think the N.Y. Jets are dumb for hanging onto Sanchez he is not the answer at QB now they are shopping Revis in a trade so i'd say look for more of the same and Rex Ryan losing his coaching job for his loyalty to Sanchez.In New England there are now talks of keeping Welker who has 100 plus catches each season the last two or three years.Also they are trying to lock up Talib on defense so i see them right back at the top of the AFC.In the NFC East it could literally go to any team in that division.Will Chip Kelly and Michael Vick get the offense going enough to be a threat.Also have to wonder about the durability of RGIII and i think the Skins whole season will depend on him being healthy.In the NFC north it could be anyones division there also but most likely Green Bay as long as Aaron Rodgers runs the offense and Matthews is the defensive spark.I think Chicago will be a threat especially if Cutler clicks with the new coaching regime.There are rumors the Detroit Lions might pick up Reggie Bush which will be good for the offense but there are questions on the defense.

Looking forward to the rest of free agency,NFL draft and last but not least will September finally get here.

[Liam]

Good thing you're doing all this....I gotta leave. LOL

[AR]

Buffalo Bills release starting quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick - @buffalobills

7 mins ago

[No Surprize]

Now his best & only receiver is a 49er. Unbelievable that the Ravens organization feels he wasn't worth the money. Hell, he single-handly won

the playoffs & super bowl, catching the floating ducks that Flacco put up for grabs. Who do they have? Torry Smith? Is he the man now? No way

in hell it's Jacoby Jones, he flat out sucks and the only half ay decent thing he does is return kicks. Even when doing that he's a fumble just waiting

to happen. 49ers get Boldin. Seachickens get Harvin. NFC West just got better!

Ozzie Newsome will have other WR's on the roster before it is all said and done. Many months of work ahead.

I love Boldin, but he was a 6 million dollar cap hit. (Almost the same number as Flacco for 2013). That's a good bit of money for a 33 year old possession receiver. While I'm not thrilled with the move, I understand it.

Who is possibly on their radar to get? Boldin caught 62% of Up for grabs Flacco passes, the others all accounted for the other 48%. Plus, he might

not have the speed he once had, but that motherfucker is strong as a bull and has great hands, especially in the red zone. Flacco should have

offered him 12 million of his jack to stay, he's the one that's gonna feel it. Now, My Dolphins going after Mike (I'm afraid of crossing routes over

the middle) Wallace. I see a bust and a waste of money and not all of it is going to be his fault. The Dolphins need to hire someone to make

Tannehill understand you CANNOT LOCK ONTO ONE RECEIVER! Until he master's reading defenses and going thru his progressions, the Phins will

have a long, long, miserable season.

[AR]

Who is possibly on their radar to get? Boldin caught 62% of Up for grabs Flacco passes, the others all accounted for the other 48%. Plus, he might

not have the speed he once had, but that motherfucker is strong as a bull and has great hands, especially in the red zone. Flacco should have

offered him 12 million of his jack to stay, he's the one that's gonna feel it

It's certainly not Flacco who should have offered his own money to Boldin. Look at the Ravens cap numbers pre-free agency. Flacco's cap number is far from the problem.

[mikemarrs]

Linebacker Dannell Ellerbe has agreed to terms with the Dolphins, Aaron Wilson of the Baltimore Sun reported Tuesday.

Per Wilson, the contract is for $35 million over five years.

[Liam]

Who is possibly on their radar to get? Boldin caught 62% of Up for grabs Flacco passes, the others all accounted for the other 48%. Plus, he might

not have the speed he once had, but that motherfucker is strong as a bull and has great hands, especially in the red zone. Flacco should have

offered him 12 million of his jack to stay, he's the one that's gonna feel it

It's certainly not Flacco who should have offered his own money to Boldin. Look at the Ravens cap numbers pre-free agency. Flacco's cap number is far from the problem.

Suggs and Ngata should've restructured.

[AR]

Who is possibly on their radar to get? Boldin caught 62% of Up for grabs Flacco passes, the others all accounted for the other 48%. Plus, he might

not have the speed he once had, but that motherfucker is strong as a bull and has great hands, especially in the red zone. Flacco should have

offered him 12 million of his jack to stay, he's the one that's gonna feel it

It's certainly not Flacco who should have offered his own money to Boldin. Look at the Ravens cap numbers pre-free agency. Flacco's cap number is far from the problem.

Suggs and Ngata should've restructured.

Ozzie doesn't want to kick the can down the road.

Suggs and Ngata may be casualties in a year or two.

[AR]

Linebacker Dannell Ellerbe has agreed to terms with the Dolphins, Aaron Wilson of the Baltimore Sun reported Tuesday.

Per Wilson, the contract is for $35 million over five years.

Way too much money for him. Good player, not at that price.

Dannell is a bit of a problem child. Should be interesting to see how he and South Beach mesh.

[Liam]

Probably, but I'm just thinking that with their combined contracts restructured, they could've saved Bolden for this year.

[Liam]

Oakland releases Heyward-Bey and Huff

[Rick]

Oakland releases Heyward-Bey and Huff

Oh, wow. I work with Huff's dad, who I believe just retired. Might want to go back to work.

[Liam]

He should get picked up...good 3rd WR, I think. CHEAP too. We're losin' Ogletree, I'm betting....no other "established 3rds"