Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice THREAD

[YoungJRNYfan]

Oh, please. Judging by the lack of commentary in this forum to the reaction to the trailer - I am very much in the right. The only ones who went ga-ga over it were comic book nerds. Well, correction, DC comic book nerds.

LOL, in this forum. That's a good one. This place is a ghostown. Absolute no level of standard for the whopping 10 MR forum members. Everybody who made up this particular forum and its activity are gone from discussion. This isn't 2006...or 2008-9 for that matter. Outside of the Politics thread or the NFL thread, find me a topic that can get past 15 replies in recent activity. You won't.

As far as comic nerds, that's a good place to start. First, you must know your audience and then branch out from there. This movie is still a whopping 7 months away and we still haven't seen much, yet, BvS has pretty much dominated social media when it comes to activity within' its genre. You're not giving the "Comic book nerds" community their fair shake. Afterall, they DO dominate Hollywood right now. The casuals will flock once this thing turns into high gear and even now, the level of interest for all folk has been rising and rising. That's just the truth. Nothing has even begun yet.

[verslibre]

He's a hardcore sci fi nerd, so he's sitting on a branch in the same big tree.

Yeah, "this forum." That's like the time I took this chick to the movies (the same one who flashed me at Outback, and then later removed her top in the theater, but that's another story) and we were the ONLY two people "watching" some Ahnuld Schwarzenegger movie on a weeknight. So I should have concluded the movie was a complete bomb because we were the only ones there.

[Monker]

Jurassic World...even though Michael Crichton isn't around any longer, I'd rather watch something that was inspired by him then a bunch of Aussie's in the dessert who like to mod cars and drive fast.

If you think Mad Max: Fury Road is "Fast & Furious in the desert" and nothing more, where were you for the other three movies circa 1979-1987? Glued to the TV set for rerun marathons of Far Out Space Nuts?

It's funny you say that. My 19yr old son came to me and said, "You should see Fury Road. It's everything you would want in a Mad Max movie."

I said, "Yeah, it's Fast & Furious in the desert with Aussies."

He said, "That's not all they are. Look at Thunderdome..."

I said, "Yeah, well, the last part of that was still a desert chase scene. Besides all that, I'm not 16, any longer, either."

He thought about that and said, "Yeah, OK, I can get that."

And, that was that.

Why is it so hard to accept that I don't care about desert holocaust movies any longer? I don't care about slasher movies any longer. I don't care about the latest rip-off of "Fast Times at Ridgemont High". I don't care about "Porky's" rip-offs. I don't need an all girl version of Ghostbusters, either. I don't need syfy's campy movies mimicking things like "The Black Scorpion" or "Night of the Lepus", or even "Food of the Gods" (which is a MUCH better book). Sharknado 4 - Fuck it, we have nothing else. And, I thought they jumped the 'shark' when they had Debbie Gibson and Tiffany trading blows.

What was I doing in the late 70's and 80's, movie-wise? Well, Star Wars. I remember loving TRON and "Last Starfighter" for the computer graphics. I loved "Wrath of Kahn". "Excalibur" - the best fantasy movie prior to LotR's. Also love Dragon Slayer. The campiness of Krull and "Clash of the Titans" just added to the appeal for me. In fact, I loved the stop-action movies like Sinbad movies...which later added to the appeal of the Mummy movies. Of course there are the Indiana Jones movies. I was amazed by "The Wall"...and the Don Bluth movies like "Watership Down" and "Rats of NIMH"...in fact, I just rewatched "Rats of NIMH". Love animated movies but Disney sucked until "Little Mermaid", "Lion King", "Beauty and the Beast", and especially "A Nightmare Before Christmas" (stop action, not animated...but still. And, I'm not sure any of these are 80's movies). Oh, I think I am the only person ever who loves "The Black Cauldron". Most people have never heard of "Return to Oz", but I always liked it...mostly for the Claymation bits. And, early movies like "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "War of the Worlds"...neither WotW movie comes close to how scary the book is...tho they are both good movies. I always liked "The Black Hole", too. And, I loved Scanners before the head explosion went viral (thank you Big Bang Theory!). "Alien MIne" - one of the best scifi movies ever. So is, "Alien Nation". "Them" - campy but good. "Dreamscape" - a non-slasher version of Freddie Kruger.

SciFi/Fantasy is what I love, especially scifi....I always have, and I always will. Things like Mad Max...Meh. To misquote Ash, "Good, bad....I'm the guy the guy with the remote." I loved it once, but it got ugly real fast.

[Monker]

Judging by the lack of commentary in this forum to the reaction to the trailer - I am very much in the right. The only ones who went ga-ga over it were comic book nerds. Well, correction, DC comic book nerds.

The nerd calling a nerd a "nerd" trope.

I didn't call anybody specific. If you want to include anybody specific into the "DC comic book nerds" group - that's your choice.

It's utterly hilarious how you're using "this forum" — not a comics/CBM forum, and barely more than a Journey worship forum — as some kind of barometer by which to gauge enthusiasm for a movie

I didn't do that either. I am simply saying that if there was a huge amount of public praise for the SS teaser you two would have posted about it here. You didn't. What I read was generally people scratching their heads with a "WTF was that?" reaction. The only people who generally praised it were DC comic book nerds...and that should already be expected.

I've already told you how large the memberships of other forums are, especially SHH

And, I already told you that I know from experience that those numbers are inflated and 90% of them are generally not active on the forums...if you have 500 people signed up for a forum, MAYBE 5 of them will be active posters. To get those numbers to be up to date and accurate takes FAR more effort that any administrator is willing to take. How many of those members have stopped visiting the forum? How many of those ID's are duplicates? How many of these ID"s are signed up with deleted Email accounts? How many signed up to make one post and then never returned? How signed up and never posted at all? How many signed up 5yrs ago, posted for a year...and then never returned? Admins generally do not manage such things...besides, high numbers like that look cool.

not to mention the size of an event like CCI in San Diego (and the New York Comic Con is right behind it in terms of attendance), the biggest of its kind in North America.

So, you think that the success of this movie can be sustained only by DC comic book nerds who attend cons. Wow, you are so wrong. Watchmen.

But you like to stick your fingers in your ears, doing the La La La La La La La La I can't hear you! dance. I guess it works for you well enough. That must be one cold, damp bedroom you lurk within, the only part of you getting a tan being your corneas. You may want to reduce the glare.

No, I face reality. The reality is for comic book movies to be so hugely successful, they need to branch out beyond their genre. Marvel knows that and does it well.

Sorry, spent a week at Cocoa Beach back in July - that's where I got my tan.

But, THIS Batman doesn't exist in BvS. The Batman who exists in the movies is just a misunderstood vigilante...

What he, more or less, HAS ALWAYS BEEN.

The best Batman stories are the ones where fear is his primary weapon. His weaponry and vehicles are secondary.

The best Batman stories are the ones where he isn't "a nice guy." Batman is not Spider-Man. Batman is not Superman. Batman isn't The Punisher, either, but that's because he's always been about justice.

So, to prove that this damaged Batman in Arkham Knight has always existed in the movies, you post a bit from a comic. You do realize how off you are, right? Not even TDK made Batman anything other than a misunderstood vigilante. The 90's Batman certainly didn't. Don't know about the animated series. But, I don't think the 60's Batman series helped your case either.

Like it or not, most people don't know Batman from the comics - but from movies and TV. Same with Superman.

[YoungJRNYfan]

I didn't do that either. I am simply saying that if there was a huge amount of public praise for the SS teaser you two would have posted about it here. You didn't. What I read was generally people scratching their heads with a "WTF was that?" reaction. The only people who generally praised it were DC comic book nerds...and that should already be expected.

Where did you read these reactions? I'm curious. Suicide Squad and the reactions to it have been massive. Social media was rockin' when Warner Bro's released the footage and the SSquad trailer shocked everybody in how downright badass it was. The positive reaction to SSquad was right up there with BvS:

React: Unpicking the Internet’s Huge Response to DC’s Suicide Squad Trailer

The all-star trailer featured 11 characters from the DC comics universe – we counted.

Friendly competition never hurt anyone, so we ranked them by social media mentions.

Jared Leto’s depiction of The Joker stole the show – with over 2,551 social media mentions related to the trailer in the last week.

His partner in crime (and occasionally romance) Harley Quinn takes second place.
But this doesn’t tell the entire story. It says who has been talked about most, but it doesn’t tell you about the fan’s favorite.

There’s been a world of debate surround Leto’s Joker since it was revealed months ago.

Using sentiment analysis, we looked at what percentage of emotive posts praised the characters, rather than railed against them:

1. Enchantress – 83.3% Positive
2. Harley Quinn – 77.7% Positive
3. The Joker – 70.5% Positive

The result: Cara Delevingne’s creepy split-personality is fan favorite, and Leto’s joker slips down into third place.

Take note, we excluded Batman from this list, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t mentioned in conjunction with the leaked trailer.

He was mentioned most of all, with 5,356 mentions, despite only appearing on screen for one second.

And, I already told you that I know from experience that those numbers are inflated and 90% of them are generally not active on the forums...if you have 500 people signed up for a forum, MAYBE 5 of them will be active posters. To get those numbers to be up to date and accurate takes FAR more effort that any administrator is willing to take. How many of those members have stopped visiting the forum? How many of those ID's are duplicates? How many of these ID"s are signed up with deleted Email accounts? How many signed up to make one post and then never returned? How signed up and never posted at all? How many signed up 5yrs ago, posted for a year...and then never returned? Admins generally do not manage such things...besides, high numbers like that look cool.

Places like Superhero Hype show you the members that are currently active within' the forum. When the leaked footage of the BvS trailer hit, it showed over a whopping 500 users who logged on just to browse the forums and take part in the discussion of a foggy and grainy 2 minute clip. Threads were flying by so fast after WB released the HD version of the Comic Con trailer that nobody could keep up whatsoever. Hundreds of posts were flying by, by the minute. Literally. You couldn't keep up. The site even crashed a few times.

So, you think that the success of this movie can be sustained only by DC comic book nerds who attend cons. Wow, you are so wrong. Watchmen.

That's not the point. The point is, there are huge outlets that get these balls rollin. Extravaganza's that take over current pop culture like San Diego and New York Comic Con bring some KILLER and MAJOR awareness into the public eye and it has been growing and growing to substantial numbers over the years. There's so much more when it comes to the logistics of a "successful movie" but the insane amount of support and awareness that comes from a event like San Diego Comic Con does wonders.

No, I face reality. The reality is for comic book movies to be so hugely successful, they need to branch out beyond their genre.

They make the same damn movie. They gear their audience towards summer blockbuster, popcorn action comedies for kids. DC? They are going to gear their audience with suspense, thriller, sci-fi and detective fans. There's a certain aurora of mystery that's going to surround the DCEU and make sense of the mythology of these hero's. The DCEU got an amazing writer in Chris Terrio who specializes in a "different audience." Just wait until you see how the quality of these movies will shift when you got a writer like Terrio running things.

Like it or not, most people don't know Batman from the comics - but from movies and TV. Same with Superman.

They don't know Batman from the comics? Joel Shumacher literally made Batman & Robin straight out of the comics of the 60's. You mentioned that audiences know Batman from the "BOOM, POW, BAM!" era and that's exactly what Shumacher brought to cinema...which killed the franchise by the way.

Burton's Batman '89 came about to go into the more brooder direction of Batman's conception, especially after the success of bringing that type of Batman back with Millers The Dark Knight Returns. Even the Nolan Bat Trilogy touched upon elements from Millers Batman and Snyder is doing the same in adapting BvS's Batman from that specific storyline. Every film of these hero's have some type of adaption from their comic book counterparts. To state otherwise is ludicrous and ignorant.

What Snyder is bringing us in BvS is the total ass-kicker Batman that is brutal beyond belief. It's another aspect of the character people think their familiar with, but has never seen it on screen. Same with Superman. We've never seen this storyline play out before where Superman is being questioned by the public because of his alien origins and what he brings to this world, which is a scary thing. How can this be a bad thing to give the audience Superman and Batman stories they've never seen adapted on their screens before? If anything, it widens interest further for the characters and keeps them fresh. I applaud Snyder for going in this direction. It's what a lot of people have been wanting to see for so long.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Mad Max: Fury Road is a game changer. In this cynical age, Miller combined artisan ingenuity with big budget spectacle and the result is a rare action masterpiece. Monker, Jurassic World isn't "inspired by Crichton" or honoring his memory in any way. It's a junk cookie cutter Hollywood sequel just like the slasher films and porky sex comedies you put down. Get over yourself dude.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Lmao, this is awesome. The time and effort put into this had to be impressive:


Batman V Superman Trailer- Homemade Shot for Shot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEjxYPwK3WY#t=214

[YoungJRNYfan]

NEW DC EXTENDED UNIVERSE SLATE COMING SOON

This could also include a date for Man of Steel 2 and Justice League Dark, as we have reported the Man of Steel 2 rumor of being put on hold is a hard pill to swallow, as Warner Bros. has begun to prove how dedicated they are to following through with their overall plans.

http://dccomicsmovie.com/new-dc-extende ... ming-soon/

[verslibre]

Mad Max: Fury Road is a game changer. In this cynical age, Miller combined artisan ingenuity with big budget spectacle and the result is a rare action masterpiece.

Bingo. It's not a critical darling for nothing. It isn't easy to take something as linear as that and turn it into a two-pronged monster of narrative and symbolism. It's George Miller honing his craft, doing what he's been doing for decades, and it proves he's a guy who can roll with the changes and update his own style while other (younger) directors hit a plateau early on and never emerge from it.

Jurassic World isn't "inspired by Crichton" or honoring his memory in any way. It's a junk cookie cutter Hollywood sequel just like the slasher films and porky sex comedies you put down.

Word. To me, Jurassic Park and Tomorrowland aren't even that different. Same target demographic. One hit big, the other didn't.

[verslibre]

Judging by the lack of commentary in this forum to the reaction to the trailer - I am very much in the right. The only ones who went ga-ga over it were comic book nerds. Well, correction, DC comic book nerds.

The nerd calling a nerd a "nerd" trope.

I didn't call anybody specific. If you want to include anybody specific into the "DC comic book nerds" group - that's your choice.

Uh-huh. Not specific, just implied. My remark stands.

It's utterly hilarious how you're using "this forum" — not a comics/CBM forum, and barely more than a Journey worship forum — as some kind of barometer by which to gauge enthusiasm for a movie

I didn't do that either.

Of course you were: "lack of commentary in this forum." You absolutely were. Which is hilarious.

I am simply saying that if there was a huge amount of public praise for the SS teaser you two would have posted about it here. You didn't.

We did. We have. As far back as Comic Con weekend in July when the trailer debuted. Remember my pointing out top trends on Twitter? Roughly a half-dozen were Comic Con-centric at all times, and on Saturday, when the big trailers dropped, BvS and SS were right in there. I pointed all that out. But you still do the La-La-La thing. That, or you're only reading every other post on every other page.

What I read was generally people scratching their heads with a "WTF was that?" reaction.

Where? On the back page of the Des Moines Dingleberry? I saw loads of expletive-laden excitement and remarks about how some liked the SS trailer over BvS. This is all between three major CB/CBM forums, Twitter, IMDb, Yahoo comments, followers of Schmoes Know and DC Movies Talk, "and on...and on...and on...it's Heaven and Hell!"

The only people who generally praised it were DC comic book nerds...and that should already be expected.

Wrong again. Quite a few people waiting for these movies don't even read the comics. Isn't that something you also like to point out, btw? Seriously, dude. Stop trying so hard. I don't know what the basis for your anti-DCEU agenda is, but it's getting creepy.

And, I already told you that I know from experience that those numbers are inflated and 90% of them are generally not active on the forums...if you have 500 people signed up for a forum, MAYBE 5 of them will be active posters. To get those numbers to be up to date and accurate takes FAR more effort that any administrator is willing to take. How many of those members have stopped visiting the forum? How many of those ID's are duplicates? How many of these ID"s are signed up with deleted Email accounts? How many signed up to make one post and then never returned? How signed up and never posted at all? How many signed up 5yrs ago, posted for a year...and then never returned? Admins generally do not manage such things...besides, high numbers like that look cool.

Why don't you just go have a look for yourself: http://forums.superherohype.com Right now it's near midnight PST, and there are 670 users online (590 members, 80 guests). There are 16,815,692 total posts. There are 50,358 registered members. So if you want to suggest roughly 20% of them are linked to dead emails and no-shows, that's still 40K+. Most users ever online: 4930 (5/2012). I expect that number to be exceeded next year, for obvious reasons.

not to mention the size of an event like CCI in San Diego (and the New York Comic Con is right behind it in terms of attendance), the biggest of its kind in North America.

So, you think that the success of this movie can be sustained only by DC comic book nerds who attend cons. Wow, you are so wrong. Watchmen.

You're twisting my words. SDCC is a physical event with roughly 130-150K attendees, but it also has a wide-reaching virtual presence thanks to everyone who monitors what comes out of there. Overall, it has a global presence. Hit the search engine and research it, if you feel like you can be bothered.

No, I face reality. The reality is for comic book movies to be so hugely successful, they need to branch out beyond their genre. Marvel knows that and does it well.

Now you're shooting yourself in the foot. Marvel — not Fox, not Sony — Disney-Marvel has come under fire for the homogenized feel their movies have, with the exception of Cap 1/Cap 2. From Iron Man all the way up through Ant-Man, there is an identifiable formula intrinsic to the MCU canon. It's as if they were all cut from the same template and finished off with different scratches and nicks. People are looking forward to the contrast the DCEU films will bring: they're going to be darker, far less silly, and the villains won't be treated like flavor-of-the-week punching bags. (What happened to Malekith and Ultron is truly sad.) And I'm sure we won't have to worry about Justice League 2 mirroring Justice League beat-for-major-beat the way Joss did with the Avengers/AoU.

Sorry, spent a week at Cocoa Beach back in July - that's where I got my tan.

Cue Louie CK's "burst into flames" joke.

Like it or not, most people don't know Batman from the comics - but from movies and TV. Same with Superman.

Oh, man. I hope I don't lose sleep over this.

[verslibre]

What was I doing in the late 70's and 80's, movie-wise? Well, Star Wars. I remember loving TRON and "Last Starfighter" for the computer graphics. I loved "Wrath of Kahn". "Excalibur" - the best fantasy movie prior to LotR's. Also love Dragon Slayer. The campiness of Krull and "Clash of the Titans" just added to the appeal for me. In fact, I loved the stop-action movies like Sinbad movies...which later added to the appeal of the Mummy movies. Of course there are the Indiana Jones movies. I was amazed by "The Wall"...and the Don Bluth movies like "Watership Down" and "Rats of NIMH"...in fact, I just rewatched "Rats of NIMH". Love animated movies but Disney sucked until "Little Mermaid", "Lion King", "Beauty and the Beast", and especially "A Nightmare Before Christmas" (stop action, not animated...but still. And, I'm not sure any of these are 80's movies). Oh, I think I am the only person ever who loves "The Black Cauldron". Most people have never heard of "Return to Oz", but I always liked it...mostly for the Claymation bits. And, early movies like "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "War of the Worlds"...neither WotW movie comes close to how scary the book is...tho they are both good movies. I always liked "The Black Hole", too. And, I loved Scanners before the head explosion went viral (thank you Big Bang Theory!). "Alien MIne" - one of the best scifi movies ever. So is, "Alien Nation". "Them" - campy but good. "Dreamscape" - a non-slasher version of Freddie Kruger.

SciFi/Fantasy is what I love, especially scifi....I always have, and I always will. Things like Mad Max...Meh. To misquote Ash, "Good, bad....I'm the guy the guy with the remote." I loved it once, but it got ugly real fast.

We like a lot of the same movies (see titles in bold). I love Harryhausen. I love the Ymir and the '76 King Kong and Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger and Jason and the Argonauts and ALL that. As a kid, I begged my dad to let me stay up late and watch any B&W horror or SF movie that was going to be showing. Then I begged him to let me watch all the R-rated horror and SF on TMC and HBO. Because titties.

Which makes it seem weird you don't like the Mad Max movies, or weirder yet, that you consign them to the bin of slasher movies and American Pie sequels. I'm not into those animated Disney movies you like, but I'd never tear you a new hole for it. I prefer Heavy Metal, Wizards, Rock & Rule, American Pop, Cool World, Heavy Traffic, Light Years and the sort. I'm going to watch Heavy Metal tomorrow night because it's time to revisit that beauty.

So you like fantasy, but no mention of John Milius' Conan The Barbarian? That's one of my favorite movies. The remake with Momoa is good, too. Momoa killed it as Conan, he played him much closer to REH's vision, but the movie lacked the same production values. That, and people in general don't seem to like sword & sorcery. They need their fantasy frilled up with dragons and elves and dwarves and shit. I prefer S&S: REH, Fritz Leiber's Lankhmar books, and Karl Edward Wagner's Kane novels. Not Dungeons & Dragons. Terry Brooks' LOTR ripoff is coming in 2016. It's being filmed in New Zealand...imagine that!

Watership Down is a freakin' classic. You must've missed the other movie adapted from a Richard Adams novel: The Plague Dogs. That is one of the most fucked-up, most depressing movies I've ever seen. Adams' novel is incredible, a literary achievement, IMO, but the movie is heavy with despair whereas you at least get a feeling of hope in the book. (I like the NIMH movies, too, but I haven't seen them for a while.) There's also a European movie called Felidae which is about, you guessed it, cats. A dark and violent mystery. Not for children. It's on Youtube if you want to check it out.

The thing is, there's a lot more product coming out today (especially horror), and hence there's a lot of good movies. Bad movies, too, but hey, you don't have to watch them all.

[verslibre]

They don't know Batman from the comics? Joel Shumacher literally made Batman & Robin straight out of the comics of the 60's. You mentioned that audiences know Batman from the "BOOM, POW, BAM!" era and that's exactly what Shumacher brought to cinema...which killed the franchise by the way.

That movie's so bad, I nodded off the first time I tried to watch it.

Burton's Batman '89 came about to go into the more brooder direction of Batman's conception, especially after the success of bringing that type of Batman back with Millers The Dark Knight Returns.

And it was a massive hit. Lines wrapped around the theaters, Star Wars-style. Everyone wanted to see it.

Even the Nolan Bat Trilogy touched upon elements from Millers Batman and Snyder is doing the same in adapting BvS's Batman from that specific storyline. Every film of these hero's have some type of adaption from their comic book counterparts. To state otherwise is ludicrous and ignorant.

Correct. And the second and third movies were massive hits.

What Snyder is bringing us in BvS is the total ass-kicker Batman that is brutal beyond belief. It's another aspect of the character people think their familiar with, but has never seen it on screen. Same with Superman. We've never seen this storyline play out before where Superman is being questioned by the public because of his alien origins and what he brings to this world, which is a scary thing. How can this be a bad thing to give the audience Superman and Batman stories they've never seen adapted on their screens before? If anything, it widens interest further for the characters and keeps them fresh. I applaud Snyder for going in this direction. It's what a lot of people have been wanting to see for so long.

It's only a bad thing for those whose nostalgia is their crutch, apparently. It makes them say strange things.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Correct.

^ Yep. "To say People only know Superman and Batman from the movies, TV shows and not the comics", etc is funny. In Man of Steel, Snyder pulled direct scenes and adapted storylines straight from Superman comics and their source material:

All Star Superman:


All Star Superman 2:


Earth One Superman:


Earth One Superman 2:


Superman: For Tomorrow



And lets not forget how WB wanted to link up what was happening on Lois and Clark (the T.V show) to mirror the comics of Clark and Lois's marriage:



So to say the audience only knows Batman and Superman from movies and T.V shows and not the comics, but it's obvious that those movies and T.V shows actually used comic book elements to create their story is a true farce of an invalid argument.

[verslibre]

^Beautiful examples.

Batman: Year One





This came from the story "The Man Who Falls."




I have a feeling we're going to see a variation of this powerful flashback in BvS, from The Dark Knight Returns.


"I'm just a small town pizza lawyer...but it's ALL 'from the comics'!"


Prey would make a great movie. The villain is Hugo Strange, plus Catwoman and Night Scourge. It would be closer to Batman Begins with it being set "early" in Batman's career and its psychological underpinnings. Really cool story (and magnificent artwork by Paul Gulacy).

[verslibre]

[YoungJRNYfan]

Dude, so awesome! I really need to read more Batman....pronto. I did pick up Death in the Family when it was out and absolutely loved it. Joker at his finest and most intelligent for sure. Loved that arc immensely.

As for the flashback Wayne death scene, what I love about Snyder is that he is ALWAYS going to give us iconic imagery. BvS is going to be the FIRST TIME IN BATMAN CINEMA HISTORY that is going to get the movie they all went to see that fatal night right: Mask of Zorro.

Got to add another one that's NEWLY familiar:




Superman: Peace on Earth by the LEGENDARY and awe inspiring Alex Ross (I just picked up this book not long ago)




S-O-U-R-C-E M-A-T-E-R-I-A-L!

[verslibre]

^Sweetness!

Batman: Earth One Vol. II came out a few weeks ago. It's still in its shrinkwrap because I refuse to read it until I can read it all in one sitting.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Funny you say that as my Superman: Earth One Vol.3 is still in my shrink wrap haha. I got major catching up to do. I hoard my readings sometimes and get to a stack whenever I can. I'm still catching up on Superman: TRUTH right now. Always behind, so I'm thinking about going to just straight TPB's. I got a mixture of both monthly's and trade but I may go full on trade soon. We'll see.

[YoungJRNYfan]

Jon Schnepp (who broke the news about Miller directing MoS 2) follows up on the rumor (he has 2 trusted sources.) George Miller has been on the Suicide Squad set to discuss directing a DC character and personally wants to direct Superman and is a huge Superman fan. Was directing Justice League: Mortal back in 2008 because of his "Superman fandom". All a progressing rumor but with backbone. Great listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5QAfgeiF1c

[YoungJRNYfan]

Viola Davis Is 'Blown Away' By Suicide Squad
http://comicbook.com/2015/08/27/viola-d ... de-squad-/

[verslibre]

Suicide Squad wrap photo:

[Monker]

Monker, Jurassic World isn't "inspired by Crichton" or honoring his memory in any way.

This statement is so completely false and ignorant, I just don't feel like replying to it other than to say I never said they were "honoring' Crichton.

[Monker]

Where? On the back page of the Des Moines Dingleberry?

No, that's where Superman is.



Hey, there's Superman saving a helicopter by the 801 Grand building in downtown Des Moines.



And, there he is outside the capital building in Des Moines.

[verslibre]

Check out homeboy with the search function.

[verslibre]

Funny you say that as my Superman: Earth One Vol.3 is still in my shrink wrap haha. I got major catching up to do. I hoard my readings sometimes and get to a stack whenever I can. I'm still catching up on Superman: TRUTH right now. Always behind, so I'm thinking about going to just straight TPB's. I got a mixture of both monthly's and trade but I may go full on trade soon. We'll see.

I prefer to keep up monthly but it's been more difficult this last spring/summer. 'Sides, it's also cool to binge read. I'd stick to your combo of monthlies and trades. What have you been buying?

Jon Schnepp (who broke the news about Miller directing MoS 2) follows up on the rumor (he has 2 trusted sources.) George Miller has been on the Suicide Squad set to discuss directing a DC character and personally wants to direct Superman and is a huge Superman fan. Was directing Justice League: Mortal back in 2008 because of his "Superman fandom". All a progressing rumor but with backbone.

Playing now! I liked the way they put it on DC Movies Talk. MoS2's "permanent hold" rhetoric is based on its absence in light of the studio's other announcements, which includes Green Lantern Corps. In other words, because they're not fast-tracking it doesn't mean it's in an accordion file next to George Costanza air drumming on a desk for the entirety of his 8-hr shift.

[YoungJRNYfan]

I prefer to keep up monthly but it's been more difficult this last spring/summer. 'Sides, it's also cool to binge read. I'd stick to your combo of monthlies and trades. What have you been buying?

Right now, I've been following the entirety of the Superman: TRUTH storyline (My pull list is Superman; Action Comics; Superman/Wonder Woman and Batman/Superman) but I know DC wants to fast-track back to the norm soon. I'm also picking up the Bizarro mini-series that is out. Didn't get to that yet but I heard it's a really good read. Fun, Bizarre and hilarious haha.

Highly looking forward to Max Landis's take on his Superman series coming out in a few months. Superman: American Alien (also Neal Adams is coming out with a story called "Coming of the Supermen" (that's what she said lol.)

And of course, Millers TDK3! So much rad content coming out.

[The_Noble_Cause]

Monker, Jurassic World isn't "inspired by Crichton" or honoring his memory in any way.

This statement is so completely false and ignorant, I just don't feel like replying to it other than to say I never said they were "honoring' Crichton.

Bullshit. Jurassic 4 has been in development for years. One discarded draft even had human- dino hybrids. At this stage, it's just another loud and stupid studio franchise, same as Friday the 13th or Porkys. It's not high art, and its not inspired by anything besides dollar signs.

[Monker]

One discarded draft even had human- dino hybrids.

So what, it was discarded.

Let's look at what they actually did, instead.

Idominus - when they go into his pen and he is camouflaged and hiding. That is taken directly from "The Lost World" book where the group is confronted by a dinosaur with perfect camouflage, like a chemeleon. The entire idea of how Idominus came about is explained by Dr. Wu in the first book. Wu and Hammond get into a bit of an argument. Wu is saying that he can do whatever he wants with the dinosaurs...so why not give the public exactly what they want? Hammond argues back that what they want is real dinosaurs...which Wu's point is - they are not real anyway because they have to fill in the DNA sequence gaps.

So, Wu is more like the book. I'll also say that Hammond in the movies is nothing like the books. He's an arrogant ass in the book and he dies. The new "execs" in this movie are much more in line with Hammond from the book. They have their own agendas to make money and really don't care about the consequences of what they are doing genetically...which is a major theme in the books.

The velociraptors - First, the reality is they are the size of a large dog, or wolf...the only raptors that are so large are Utah Raptors, and they are not in the books or movies. Crichton treated them as a pack of wolves. In this movie, that is EXACTLY how they are treated. Sure, having raptors run in a pack beside motorcycles is a bit of a stretch...but overall, velociraptors are much more like the books in this movie then the other three. Becoming the alpha and having the raptors respect that is not such a stretch.

The park itself had all kinds of things taken from the first book. The aviary, the boat ride, etc...all taken from comments Hammond made in the first book. Also, it "looks" much more like a theme park then the first movie's depiction.

Yeah, there are "Hollywood" scenes, like the gerbil balls and such. And, the ending was a bit over the top. But, so what....it's a movie. Hell, in the book, the Costa Rica air force napalms the island, killing everything on it...doesn't leave much room for a sequel.

At this stage, it's just another loud and stupid studio franchise, same as Friday the 13th or Porkys. It's not high art, and its not inspired by anything besides dollar signs.

Every major movie wants $'s to be made...you are being naïve to think otherwise.

They should continue getting ideas from the books. The first bits in the book are about a "new" lizard in Costa Rica that is going about stealing babies. In fact, there is a scene where a group of compy's are munching on a dead baby. Maybe that would be a good place to start next time.

[Monker]

Check out homeboy with the search function.

I knew about that comic when it was released. Had to Google to get the pics tho.

And, wow, my 16yr old daughter can draw better than that. Those graphics really suck.

[verslibre]

Highly looking forward to Max Landis's take on his Superman series coming out in a few months. Superman: American Alien (also Neal Adams is coming out with a story called "Coming of the Supermen" (that's what she said lol.)

I missed news of this. What does Landis' take entail?

Yeah, The Dark Knight: TMR is going to be nuts.